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bobbyw24
09-01-2009, 04:50 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/31/AR2009083102912.html

Time to Get Out of Afghanistan

By George F. Will
Tuesday, September 1, 2009

"Yesterday," reads the e-mail from Allen, a Marine in Afghanistan, "I gave blood because a Marine, while out on patrol, stepped on a [mine's] pressure plate and lost both legs." Then "another Marine with a bullet wound to the head was brought in. Both Marines died this morning."

"I'm sorry about the drama," writes Allen, an enthusiastic infantryman willing to die "so that each of you may grow old." He says: "I put everything in God's hands." And: "Semper Fi!"

Allen and others of America's finest are also in Washington's hands. This city should keep faith with them by rapidly reversing the trajectory of America's involvement in Afghanistan, where, says the Dutch commander of coalition forces in a southern province, walking through the region is "like walking through the Old Testament."

U.S. strategy -- protecting the population -- is increasingly troop-intensive while Americans are increasingly impatient about "deteriorating" (says Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) conditions. The war already is nearly 50 percent longer than the combined U.S. involvements in two world wars, and NATO assistance is reluctant and often risible.

The U.S. strategy is "clear, hold and build." Clear? Taliban forces can evaporate and then return, confident that U.S. forces will forever be too few to hold gains. Hence nation-building would be impossible even if we knew how, and even if Afghanistan were not the second-worst place to try: The Brookings Institution ranks Somalia as the only nation with a weaker state.

Military historian Max Hastings says Kabul controls only about a third of the country -- "control" is an elastic concept -- and " 'our' Afghans may prove no more viable than were 'our' Vietnamese, the Saigon regime." Just 4,000 Marines are contesting control of Helmand province, which is the size of West Virginia. The New York Times reports a Helmand official saying he has only "police officers who steal and a small group of Afghan soldiers who say they are here for 'vacation.' " Afghanistan's $23 billion gross domestic product is the size of Boise's. Counterinsurgency doctrine teaches, not very helpfully, that development depends on security, and that security depends on development. Three-quarters of Afghanistan's poppy production for opium comes from Helmand. In what should be called Operation Sisyphus, U.S. officials are urging farmers to grow other crops. Endive, perhaps?

Even though violence exploded across Iraq after, and partly because of, three elections, Afghanistan's recent elections were called "crucial." To what? They came, they went, they altered no fundamentals, all of which militate against American "success," whatever that might mean. Creation of an effective central government? Afghanistan has never had one. U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry hopes for a "renewal of trust" of the Afghan people in the government, but the Economist describes President Hamid Karzai's government -- his vice presidential running mate is a drug trafficker -- as so "inept, corrupt and predatory" that people sometimes yearn for restoration of the warlords, "who were less venal and less brutal than Mr. Karzai's lot."

Mullen speaks of combating Afghanistan's "culture of poverty." But that took decades in just a few square miles of the South Bronx. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, thinks jobs programs and local government services might entice many "accidental guerrillas" to leave the Taliban. But before launching New Deal 2.0 in Afghanistan, the Obama administration should ask itself: If U.S. forces are there to prevent reestablishment of al-Qaeda bases -- evidently there are none now -- must there be nation-building invasions of Somalia, Yemen and other sovereignty vacuums?

U.S. forces are being increased by 21,000, to 68,000, bringing the coalition total to 110,000. About 9,000 are from Britain, where support for the war is waning. Counterinsurgency theory concerning the time and the ratio of forces required to protect the population indicates that, nationwide, Afghanistan would need hundreds of thousands of coalition troops, perhaps for a decade or more. That is inconceivable.

So, instead, forces should be substantially reduced to serve a comprehensively revised policy: America should do only what can be done from offshore, using intelligence, drones, cruise missiles, airstrikes and small, potent Special Forces units, concentrating on the porous 1,500-mile border with Pakistan, a nation that actually matters.

Genius, said de Gaulle, recalling Bismarck's decision to halt German forces short of Paris in 1870, sometimes consists of knowing when to stop. Genius is not required to recognize that in Afghanistan, when means now, before more American valor, such as Allen's, is squandered.

georgewill@washpost.com

Objectivist
09-01-2009, 05:02 AM
That's not going to happen.
Have you read Joe Biden's legislative history and the chairs he's held? He just became one of the worlds biggest drug lords by moving our troops into Afghanistan.

Epic
09-01-2009, 05:34 AM
We need a libertarian/paleoconservative anti-war movement.

That would be so crucial for building libertarian support among young people.

Bucjason
09-01-2009, 06:58 AM
What a hypocrite and a fraud Obama is , lol.

Todd
09-01-2009, 07:12 AM
Finally, Will comes back to his senses. I used to read him so often for his logic. It's been missing for so long. Although I still disagree with his solution.

yokna7
09-01-2009, 07:49 AM
So close Will...yet so far away. How does he think launching missiles into the country is any more suitable that having foot soldiers? Will has a habit of hitting on a topic and then perversing it at the end. "Like wow"- I am quoting chris brown.

max
09-01-2009, 07:53 AM
George Will - CFR member, ...controloed opposition

"house conservative"....career made by leftist Zionist Meg Greenfield and Katherine Meyer Graham

HOLLYWOOD
09-01-2009, 08:10 AM
George Will - CFR member, ...controloed opposition

"house conservative"....career made by leftist Zionist Meg Greenfield and Katherine Meyer Graham

Exactly on George Will and the Token controlled opposition at the Lefty Socialist table of ABC's THIS WEEK, same scenario on NBC's political entertainment with their token conservative controlled hack Pat Buchanan.

Where's all the Lefty's protest on the WARS? Where's Nancy Pelosi and her Anti-War protest cronies? Where's ABC, NBC, CNN now?

No difference at all Bush, Obama and the silent puppet masters at the NSC.

It's the willful ignorance of the American people and morons that put party first... which is another data point conjured up by the .gov Duopoly to separate/divide the people.

surf
09-01-2009, 10:22 AM
Republicans (excluding our crowd - the RP "republicans) love war... unless they're not calling the shots. Would Will have penned this if McWar had one the election? of course not.

he's a hypocrite that went out of his way to bash libertarians (specifically) for complaining about Iraq

here's an LTE i had published in the Seattle PI a few years back:

Libertarians offer direct path to a secure life
A line in George Will's Thursday column "Liberals, conservatives and Sept. 11" contained the following petty attempt to discredit the Libertarian platform: "And events since Sept. 11 have underscored the limits of libertarianism."

Not that I would expect anything more reasoned from the man that promotes racial profiling in all arenas (pretty brave for a preppy-looking, old white man), but others should realize that Will is way off base here. Foremost, the Libertarian Party is the party that champions national defense. There was an obvious failure by the two-party conservative/liberal groups that run this country on Sept. 11.

I can state with confidence that the horrific events of Sept. 11 would not have occurred if the country abandoned its left/right bog and instead embraced Libertarian Party policies such as a non-interventionist foreign policy, a law enforcement and defense community that focused on citizen protection and fundamental constitutionalism.

Will shows the extent of his ignorance by devoting an entire column to the differences in two groups that stand for one thing: bigger government.

Liberal, conservative, whatever -- both labels champion government growth at citizen expense.

If you want a smaller government that will allow you to live your life as you see fit without the fear that some angry, deranged lunatic will crash a plane into your building (in other words, if you want to feel safe, secure and free), the Libertarian Party offers the only direct route.

TheConstitutionLives
09-01-2009, 11:36 AM
George Will - CFR member, ...controloed opposition

everyone in the CFR is "controlled", says expert conspiracy monger, Max. Everything is a conspiracy. lol

max
09-01-2009, 11:51 AM
everyone in the CFR is "controlled", says expert conspiracy monger, Max. Everything is a conspiracy. lol

So its an "accident" that EVERY commentator on the Sunday news shows is a statist???

It's a mere oversight that the producers of these shows NEVER have a panelist like Judge Napolitano???

It's an accident that these shows NEVER have people like Schiff or Ron Paul as guests (except for that one occasion where Tim Russert brought Ron on Meet the Press so that he could accuse him of being pro-slavery)

You need to get your head out of your ass and realize that the press is controlled by media execs who have long had a well documented incestuous relationship with the political ruling class.

gls
09-01-2009, 11:59 AM
We need a libertarian/paleoconservative anti-war movement.

That would be so crucial for building libertarian support among young people.

Yeah, we can dream. It is no longer "cool" to be anti war. Most of the college 'professors' and media hacks who just loved to hate Bush can't wait to make excuses for Obama's overseas mass murder campaigns. What we need people to do is start to think critically, which they have been conditioned not to.