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Liberty Star
08-30-2009, 11:05 AM
Obama radicals seem to be hitting a new low in their vicious attack on Glenn Beck, allegedly they are linking him to "right wing militia groups" alongwith others in effort to silence him:


FF to 7:10 in this clip of his fiery speech on Aug 28:


The White House does seem pretty concerned about YOU, DHS has warned about the rise in right wing militia groups. Their report said that if you are concerned about legislation on tighter firearms, you might just be part of a white supremacist militia movement..you gotta be kidding me.
They are name calling..Alinski's his big strategy was to take the enemy out of their comfort zone. Are you comfortable being called (they're sayin that you are) a militia group? I'm not...They call you a name and you get quiet

YouTube - Glenn Beck: August 28, 1/7 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES4wFJa5bzs)



How can they sink so low?

At least when Glenn Beck used Alinski's rule on Ron Paul Libertarian movement, he only compared them to Timothy McVeigh and did not go as far as Obama radicals are going as this rarely seen video shows:

YouTube - Glenn Beck - Ron Paul - Terrorism? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8M2JBIoqo)



Poetic justice or karma things aside and regardless of your view on Glenn's integrity, shouldn't we all stand by Becks of the world when they are attacked by Obama radicals to keep them quiet?

What say you.

sparebulb
08-30-2009, 11:40 AM
Persecution is a funny thing.

When you are the one being persecuted, it makes sense to rally as much support as you can and make friends of those in the same predicament with platitudes of free speech, the Constitution, etc. Where was Bleckt when Ron Paul supporters were being labeled as terrorists? Oh, wait a minute, it WAS Bleckt accusing Ron Paul supporters of being terrorists.

When the heat gets turned down, it goes back to business as usual. Mark my words, Bleckt will throw Ron Paul supporters and others to the wolves in due time. I predict within a month.

Liberty Star
08-30-2009, 11:47 AM
OK have to admit those are great points, hard to disagree with that.

JK/SEA
08-30-2009, 11:53 AM
I'm more inclined to let the chips fall where they may, while at the same time tuning in to Beck's show.

I'm still waiting for Beck to acknowledge the power of the Ron Paul Revolution, and at least give a half-assed apology about the past name calling of Ron and his supporters.

I'm hoping i don't have to wait long.

Carry on Beck.

Orgoonian
08-30-2009, 11:55 AM
Persecution is a funny thing.

When you are the one being persecuted, it makes sense to rally as much support as you can and make friends of those in the same predicament with platitudes of free speech, the Constitution, etc. Where was Bleckt when Ron Paul supporters were being labeled as terrorists? Oh, wait a minute, it WAS Bleckt accusing Ron Paul supporters of being terrorists.

When the heat gets turned down, it goes back to business as usual. Mark my words, Bleckt will throw Ron Paul supporters and others to the wolves in due time. I predict within a month.


I agree.I don't trust Beck at all.

sparebulb
08-30-2009, 12:03 PM
With that said, I am conflicted as to whether I will cancel my insurance with Geico as a result of their recent behavior. I would be the first to support Geico for pulling advertising from a television show that I found to be destructive and offensive.

We all know that Geico and the rest are responding to the Bleckt comments in a manner that is being manipulated by the sick Obama fascist/marxist/globalist cabal. I'm just not sure whether defending Bleckt gets us anywhere. The problem is that defending free speech is worth defending. Defending Bleckt may not be the same thing. Almost like saving the life of your sworn enemy so he can cut your throat some other day.

I don't know what to do except keep bashing Bleckt for those things that he has done to us.

Liberty Star
08-30-2009, 12:06 PM
Maybe we should let chips fall where they may as you noted earlier and continue to focus on getting message out independent of compromised voices like Beck's.

Quite insightful views, you shine light on this issue very well, sparebulb :)

webstar
08-30-2009, 12:32 PM
Beck reminds me of the chubby kid in grade school who was heavier than everybody else but still got slammed up against the lockers each day and shaken down for his lunch money and paid it whining the whole time. And somehow he still continued to gain weight in spite of skipping lunch constantly.

Flash
08-30-2009, 01:56 PM
The Progressive/Socialist-NeoFascist blogs are in full-scale attack on Glenn Beck. I will tell you the real reason behind it-- He exposed National SOCIALISM as a Leftist ideology a few weeks back. Not even O'Reilly dared to go that far before. Infact O'reilly calls Nazism a "far right" ideology which is a fallacy. What is "Right-wing" about Nazism? The Progressives hate it when someone exposes the Leftist roots behind Fascism.

Heres a pretty interesting book on it:

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

The Black Nationalists & Socialist groups, who want Socialist/Fascist Dictatorship in America, like Color of Change can't stand Beck. Whether he is controlled or not, this IS whats going on. More people should expose the "Progressive" roots of Tyranny!

Dunedain
08-30-2009, 02:08 PM
The puppet show takes a twist. One puppet is critcizing another puppet. The Obama puppet doesn't like the Glenn Beck puppet and says the Glenn Beck is a REALLY BAD puppet. But the Glenn Beck puppet is really the GOOD GUY PUPPET! Don't those dumb liberals watching the puppet show on T.V. get that? It's a big miscarrige of justice! They are stupid dumb liberals...Beck is the puppet that thinks and acts like us and he's a good guy! Darn that evil Obama puppet and the liberal people that like him.....he's really the bad puppet but he is also the big po-po-powful puppet. I hope that Obama puppet gets a whoppin' so my puppet can win....

JRegs85
08-30-2009, 02:10 PM
Alex Jones has mentioned this a few times on his radio show....his perspective is that whether we like it or not, Beck has become a symbol for free speech, so we should stand behind him.

hamilton1049
08-30-2009, 02:10 PM
I'm just a simpleton I admit, just wondering what is "low" about being associated with militia.

HOLLYWOOD
08-30-2009, 02:46 PM
The puppet show takes a twist. One puppet is critcizing another puppet. The Obama puppet doesn't like the Glenn Beck puppet and says the Glenn Beck is a REALLY BAD puppet. But the Glenn Beck puppet is really the GOOD GUY PUPPET! Don't those dumb liberals watching the puppet show on T.V. get that? It's a big miscarrige of justice! They are stupid dumb liberals...Beck is the puppet that thinks and acts like us and he's a good guy! Darn that evil Obama puppet and the liberal people that like him.....he's really the bad puppet but he is also the big po-po-powful puppet. I hope that Obama puppet gets a whoppin' so my puppet can win....

Kinda reminds me of this episode I viewed this week. The TPTB controlling the games. On Triskelion, the brains speak, identifying themselves as the Providers, ancient beings of pure intellect that pass their time gambling between one another, wagering sums of "quatloos" over the outcomes of the contests.

5000 Quatloos on the Marxist Newcomer, Obama! ...Sunday Humor.

The Gamesters of Triskelion
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/startrek/images/3/35/Thegamestersoftriskelion.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a2/STGameTrisk.jpg

Dr.3D
08-30-2009, 02:56 PM
I'm just a simpleton I admit, just wondering what is "low" about being associated with militia.

Yes, that is almost the same as saying they are stooping to new lows by linking him to patriots. The militias were originally formed as groups of patriots and now probably most of them are too. I say most because I don't know if there are any who are so radical they should not be called patriots.

Liberty Star
08-30-2009, 03:18 PM
The puppet show takes a twist. One puppet is critcizing another puppet. The Obama puppet doesn't like the Glenn Beck puppet and says the Glenn Beck is a REALLY BAD puppet. But the Glenn Beck puppet is really the GOOD GUY PUPPET! Don't those dumb liberals watching the puppet show on T.V. get that? It's a big miscarrige of justice! They are stupid dumb liberals...Beck is the puppet that thinks and acts like us and he's a good guy! Darn that evil Obama puppet and the liberal people that like him.....he's really the bad puppet but he is also the big po-po-powful puppet. I hope that Obama puppet gets a whoppin' so my puppet can win....


Interesting analogy, it's a puppet show indeed.

Neither one of the two puppets represents truth or Libertarian values.




I'm just a simpleton I admit, just wondering what is "low" about being associated with militia.

I was kinda channeling Glenn Beck there, checkout the "America are you comfortable being called a militia group? I'm not" tone in the video clip.
There may be better ways to say that he's getting taste of his own medicine then headline of this thread.


The White House does seem pretty concerned about YOU, DHS has warned about the rise in right wing militia groups. Their report said that if you are concerned about legislation on tighter firearms, you might just be part of a white supremacist militia movement..you gotta be kidding me.
They are name calling..Alinski's his big strategy was to take the enemy out of their comfort zone. Are you comfortable being called (they're sayin that you are) a militia group? I'm not...They call you a name and you get quiet

Liberty Star
08-30-2009, 03:22 PM
Alex Jones has mentioned this a few times on his radio show....his perspective is that whether we like it or not, Beck has become a symbol for free speech, so we should stand behind him.

How can someone who supported Patriot Act become a symbol of anything that even remotely represents Constitutional rights or individual liberties?

That just makes no sense.

linux
08-30-2009, 03:25 PM
Best not to admit being a fan of beck unless you are speaking with another fan. They are using Alinsky's rule #12 on beck. Sheep will ignore you if they think you are a fan. It will get to the point where it's worse than being a fan of Rush.

That's just the way it is.

Dr.3D
08-30-2009, 03:30 PM
How can someone who supported Patriot Act become a symbol of anything that even remotely represents Constitutional rights or individual liberties?

That just makes no sense.

He said just the other day, that he once supported the Patriot Act, but now is believes he was wrong in the support. People can change you know.

Liberty Star
08-30-2009, 03:37 PM
He said just the other day, that he once supported the Patriot Act, but now is believes he was wrong in the support. People can change you know.

How convenient when shoe is on the other foot :)

He was for the PA when Bush was President and suddenly turns against it as soon as Obama becomes President and starts using PA on him and Iraqi freedom crowd LOL

Clearly his stance on PA has nothing to with who the President is but question arises why he no longer wants to protect America suddenly, what changed his mind?

This may be hard question but I would like to see him answer that question on his show.

Fox producers, in case you're surfing this forum, take a note and post an answer to this question on Beck's teleprompter next time he's on air.

HOLLYWOOD
08-30-2009, 03:43 PM
How can someone who supported Patriot Act become a symbol of anything that even remotely represents Constitutional rights or individual liberties?

That just makes no sense.

Funny you mention this... Beck kinda mentioned/denounced the Patriot Act on Friday. Flip Floppers always use the heat of the moment to their advantage.

I guess he finally read the legislation, or at least his staffers did and then brought it to Beck's attention.

BlackTerrel
08-30-2009, 03:44 PM
Alex Jones has mentioned this a few times on his radio show....his perspective is that whether we like it or not, Beck has become a symbol for free speech, so we should stand behind him.

What does this have to do with free speech? Beck is free to say what he wants and others are free to boycott his show and advertisers. That's what living in a free society is all about.

sparebulb
08-30-2009, 03:51 PM
Beck is free to say what he wants and others are free to boycott his show and advertisers. That's what living in a free society is all about.

Yes, I agree. That is precisely why we should support/create credible alternative news providers.

pcosmar
08-30-2009, 04:30 PM
"America are you comfortable being called a militia group? I'm not"

And that right there is why I do not trust Beck.

The Militia is an Honorable thing. I wish I could pick up a rifle and muster.

This is more of the same Propaganda that I expect from the MSM.

Captain America
08-30-2009, 04:31 PM
can we please call them something other than radicals. they are collectivists, like the Borg. trying to control us, for our own good.

i say no thank you. call us for what we are defenders of the individual and liberty.

Theocrat
08-30-2009, 04:35 PM
It should be obvious now that anyone who disagrees with and/or attacks Obama is deemed either a racist or an extremist, at least from the mainstream media's perspective. Since they lack the ability to think critically and be objective in any reporting or assessment, they must engage in personal attacks against the opposition.

HOLLYWOOD
08-30-2009, 05:07 PM
It should be obvious now that anyone who disagrees with and/or attacks Obama is deemed either a racist or an extremist, at least from the mainstream media's perspective. Since they lack the ability to think critically and be objective in any reporting or assessment, they must engage in personal attacks against the opposition.

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

This quote goes for anything the current regime wants to control... obviously anything that can jeopardize the regime's; power, control, and/or agenda.

Kords21
08-30-2009, 05:19 PM
can we please call them something other than radicals. they are collectivists, like the Borg. trying to control us, for our own good.

i say no thank you. call us for what we are defenders of the individual and liberty.

I came across this series on youtube. It's called "The Borg Agenda". It talks about how our society is slowly being transformed into a borg collective type of soceity that is basically the New World Order. I had just come to terms personally with how evil/vile these elite scum are, but this series just blew my mind even more. Recently on this board there have been many topics concerning vaccines, economic collapse, martial law and the questions have been why are they doing this? What's they're plan?

This series doesn't touch on the subjects individually, but it really gives an insight into what's going on around us and how we're sacrificing our humanity for the convience and ease of technology. While I enjoyed the series I did get a little tired of the narrators too monotone voiceover and you'll grow weary of the narrator saying "The Borg Agenda", but the subject matter interested me to the point that I could overlook it.

Take away from this series what you will, but for me it makes an darker grim world that I thought existed with the NWO into an even darker one that's happenig as I type this on a message board that could be termed a "Collective consciousness". It's a 25 part series, even though the youtube titles say # 0f 88, I guess those parts are still in development. Maybe this series will shed some light on what's going on right now and around us.:eek:

YouTube - The Borg Agenda 1 of 88 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEfnKiveAdo)

I found this series to be disturbing. It's long, but well worth the watch.

tonesforjonesbones
08-30-2009, 06:28 PM
linux is exactly right...If you don't toe the line with the trendy folks on here you are ignored or worse...I don't really care...truth generally is not popular. I find that the ones who hate Beck are avid fans of Daily Kooks and the Huffington Post...that says alot. Tones

Vessol
08-30-2009, 06:33 PM
Beck is a kook disenfranchising us.

He supported the war in Iraq and against Iran. And he supported the bailout.

At least people like O'Reilly and Keithman have always been consistant.

Not Beck, he bounces all around.


linux is exactly right...If you don't toe the line with the trendy folks on here you are ignored or worse...I don't really care...truth generally is not popular. I find that the ones who hate Beck are avid fans of Daily Kooks and the Huffington Post...that says alot. Tones

There you go at those strawman.

FSP-Rebel
08-30-2009, 06:45 PM
I have mixed opinions on Beck, not sure which way to go.

Vessol
08-30-2009, 06:49 PM
I have mixed opinions on Beck, not sure which way to go.

Neither.

Fuck the left and the right.

sparebulb
08-30-2009, 07:52 PM
linux is exactly right...If you don't toe the line with the trendy folks on here you are ignored or worse...I don't really care...truth generally is not popular. I find that the ones who hate Beck are avid fans of Daily Kooks and the Huffington Post...that says alot. Tones

Tones, are you claiming victim status?

I've never considered myself trendy by any means and I've never, ever looked at the Daily Kos or read more than a handful of articles out of Huffington. Yet I still despise Glen Bleckt. I am seemingly a paradox in your dimension.

Working Poor
08-30-2009, 08:29 PM
I don't trust Beck I think he will screw us over.

Smitty
08-30-2009, 08:35 PM
Beck will say what Beck feels is necessary to keep his ratings high and money in his pocket.

He's a media tool who is employed by the people who refused to allow Ron Paul to participate in the debates which were braodcast on their network.

There isn't any true advocacy of libertarian ideas to be found on television.

Don't allow yourself to be influenced in any manner by the talking heads who appear on the propaganda box.

Their job is to manipulate the people.

Stary Hickory
08-30-2009, 08:43 PM
I like Beck I think he is honest, and I think he is learning about true libertarianism as he goes. Just like changing his mind on the Patriot Act, that is a good thing. God waht 95% of Americans never knew what was in the patriot act, and that probably was Glenn Beck too.

After some exposure people are realizing how bad it truly is/was and are now coming around. What do you want Beck to do, pretend he supports it when he no longer does? People here are seeking to change hearts and minds right? Well when you finally succeed don't stab the guy in the face...