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Pod
08-29-2009, 09:28 PM
By American Leftists I mean the the only breed of Leftists native to America. The hateful, overprivileged, arrogant, snobbish, Ivory League schooled elitists. They are the only leftists anywhere without one single redeeming thing about them. Whatever you wanted to say about leftists from other places at least they were the real deal, the real downtrodden, the real populists, the men of the people, at least they had balls, at least they were radical and courageus, at least they were original and not of afraid of sacraficing themselves if need be. The American Leftist however is a totally different breed, the opposite of all of this, a bunch of spolied offspring of privileged oligarchs and cheering upper-middle class educational-complex permanent constituencies, full of hatred and contempt for the true American people and everything quintissentialy American in their eyes and using academic parlance and fake political idealism to coat this chauvinism. A breed totally commited to serving their elites to say their shit don`t stink as long as the get to hatefuly hound some imagined, unwashed (and inferior) honky tonk and they being applauded for it as doing the "progressive" thing rather than the chauvinist bile that it is.

So HuffPuff, the Nation and the likes can lick my balls!

Pericles
08-30-2009, 08:27 AM
Shows what happens when you become so open minded, that your brain falls out of the resulting aperture.

coyote_sprit
08-30-2009, 09:10 AM
Shows what happens when you become so open minded, that your brain falls out of the resulting aperture.

The brain is connect by the brain stem. It's like grapes it doesn't just fall out it has to be plucked out... by reptilian Joos.

Epic
08-30-2009, 09:36 AM
being a young socialist is a luxury afforded to some people on account of their parents being capitalists.

cause when you actually don't have the money and you're working hard to succeed, you don't start advocating people giving all their money to the government and punishing work..

amy31416
08-30-2009, 09:47 AM
By American Leftists I mean the the only breed of Leftists native to America. The hateful, overprivileged, arrogant, snobbish, Ivory League schooled elitists. They are the only leftists anywhere without one single redeeming thing about them. Whatever you wanted to say about leftists from other places at least they were the real deal, the real downtrodden, the real populists, the men of the people, at least they had balls, at least they were radical and courageus, at least they were original and not of afraid of sacraficing themselves if need be. The American Leftist however is a totally different breed, the opposite of all of this, a bunch of spolied offspring of privileged oligarchs and cheering upper-middle class educational-complex permanent constituencies, full of hatred and contempt for the true American people and everything quintissentialy American in their eyes and using academic parlance and fake political idealism to coat this chauvinism. A breed totally commited to serving their elites to say their shit don`t stink as long as the get to hatefuly hound some imagined, unwashed (and inferior) honky tonk and they being applauded for it as doing the "progressive" thing rather than the chauvinist bile that it is.

So HuffPuff, the Nation and the likes can lick my balls!

I hear ya and sympathize with your anger. Long ago I dated a college professor, he wasn't Ivy League, but fancied himself brilliant. He also liked to believe that he was incredibly knowledgeable about all things political. One of those types who was mortified by racism, classism, sexism, etc. and, as I eventually figured out, looked down on regular people. Turns out that he really can't tolerate people who disagree with him, he couldn't tolerate someone with common sense.

For example, we went out on a date once, it started out nice--ice skating and dinner in DC, but afterwards he decided it was a great idea to take me to one of the worst neighborhoods in DC for a poetry thing. This was a hard-core, down with the white masters, afro-centric kind of event. I refused to go in or even get out of the car in that neighborhood, and therefore I was a racist. I told him that I wouldn't go to a white-centric aryan nation event if I were black, and I'm sure as hell not going to something like this.

I still occasionally talked to him after having come around to Ron Paul's campaign and when he called me an extremist, racist militant type for attempting to explain why I was in complete favor of the 2nd Amendment--I pointed out that he had no problem with the two huge black guys being armed outside that place in DC, was a huge hypocrite and I haven't talked to him since. People like that are incorrigible and completely close-minded in their attempts to appear open-minded.

/end semi-rant. Can't stand 'em either. And that's just one story, there's plenty more in regards to his hypocrisy.

coyote_sprit
08-30-2009, 09:51 AM
So amy, why were you dating a college professor? You must have worked hard to get that chemistry degree...

amy31416
08-30-2009, 10:00 AM
So amy, why were you dating a college professor? You must have worked hard to get that chemistry degree...

Hahahhaha. No, I was in grad school at Hopkins and went to a biophysics n' beer thing, which is where I met him. He wasn't my professor, though I suppose he could have been if I took one of his courses. I already had my undergrad degree, obviously.

james1906
08-30-2009, 10:18 AM
In regards to the Ivory League...

http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=36856

Pod
08-30-2009, 11:49 AM
Yeah, I wouldn`t want to be misunderstood, I am definetely not one to idealise the salt of the earth part of America, but I do not feel the need to compare myself to it and certainly don`t need to think of it as inferior and backward in order to feel good about myself.

One of the most disturbing thing is that these types actually don`t know much about the sort of Americans they hold in contempt. Their own position is not built on knowledge but on ignorance. They are not railing against an actually existing demographic but against a stereotype that for the most part exists only in their minds.

And most crucially the special qualities that they assign to themselves, the qualities that supposedly make them oh so enlightened are actually nothing special, nothing extrodinary, but pretty run of the mill sort of thing.

For example their one of the main percieved special qualities is supposed to be that they are not racist. But there is absolutely nothing special about that. Very, very few people are racist nowadays. But to admit that they would have to admit that they are not actually more enlightened than the people around them and they can`t have that so instead they convince themselves that everyone else around them actually is secretly racist which then goes on to lead them into all sort of absurdities.

heavenlyboy34
08-30-2009, 12:15 PM
This is one of the nice things about anarchism-I can point out the foolishness in ALL areas of Statecraft and be fully content. :) btw: I've had some run-ins with left liberals lately, and it's quite nauseating/pathetic, as you say.

JeNNiF00F00
08-30-2009, 12:57 PM
I feel your pain Pod. I have little tolerance for these people now days.

Light
08-30-2009, 01:02 PM
being a young socialist is a luxury afforded to some people on account of their parents being capitalists.

cause when you actually don't have the money and you're working hard to succeed, you don't start advocating people giving all their money to the government and punishing work..

Ding ding ding. We have ourselves a winner.

Most young socialists today are brats who have middle or upper-class parents and have not worked a single day in their lives. They also like to think of themselves as informed by watching the Daily Show and going to college and listening to their quack job professors.

Howard_Roark
08-30-2009, 01:46 PM
The funny thing about all rich elitist liberas is they somehow trace there money to someone who actually made that money, and is thus conservative. Case in point? Ariana Huffington got her money divorcing a Dallas oil mogul.

InterestedParticipant
08-30-2009, 02:49 PM
By American Leftists I mean the the only breed of Leftists native to America. The hateful, overprivileged, arrogant, snobbish, Ivory League schooled elitists. They are the only leftists anywhere without one single redeeming thing about them. Whatever you wanted to say about leftists from other places at least they were the real deal, the real downtrodden, the real populists, the men of the people, at least they had balls, at least they were radical and courageus, at least they were original and not of afraid of sacraficing themselves if need be. The American Leftist however is a totally different breed, the opposite of all of this, a bunch of spolied offspring of privileged oligarchs and cheering upper-middle class educational-complex permanent constituencies, full of hatred and contempt for the true American people and everything quintissentialy American in their eyes and using academic parlance and fake political idealism to coat this chauvinism. A breed totally commited to serving their elites to say their shit don`t stink as long as the get to hatefuly hound some imagined, unwashed (and inferior) honky tonk and they being applauded for it as doing the "progressive" thing rather than the chauvinist bile that it is.

So HuffPuff, the Nation and the likes can lick my balls!
Yup, you're right.

Now what if I told you that their belief systems were deliberately cultivated and the followers heavily marketed to? This didn't happen by accident.

KAYA
08-30-2009, 07:06 PM
Yeah, I wouldn`t want to be misunderstood, I am definetely not one to idealise the salt of the earth part of America, but I do not feel the need to compare myself to it and certainly don`t need to think of it as inferior and backward in order to feel good about myself.

One of the most disturbing thing is that these types actually don`t know much about the sort of Americans they hold in contempt. Their own position is not built on knowledge but on ignorance. They are not railing against an actually existing demographic but against a stereotype that for the most part exists only in their minds.

And most crucially the special qualities that they assign to themselves, the qualities that supposedly make them oh so enlightened are actually nothing special, nothing extrodinary, but pretty run of the mill sort of thing.

For example their one of the main percieved special qualities is supposed to be that they are not racist. But there is absolutely nothing special about that. Very, very few people are racist nowadays. But to admit that they would have to admit that they are not actually more enlightened than the people around them and they can`t have that so instead they convince themselves that everyone else around them actually is secretly racist which then goes on to lead them into all sort of absurdities.

I would like to add that while these lefty elitist claim to be post racial, open minded and tolerant. They are actual very must consumed with race, close mined and highly intolerant. They hold great contempt and disdain for rural America, traditional Americans and any one who holds views to the right of their political ideology. They constantly demonize people who disagree with their collectivist views as racist, red-necks, ignorant, unenlightened, backwoods neanderthals.

Vessol
08-30-2009, 07:10 PM
I would like to add that while these lefty elitist claim to be post racial, open minded and tolerant. They are actual very must consumed with race, close mined and highly intolerant. They hold great contempt and disdain for rural America, traditional Americans and any one who holds views to the right of their political ideology. They constantly demonize people who disagree with their collectivist views as racist, red-necks, ignorant, unenlightened, backwoods neanderthals.

YEAH! Keep calling the kettle black there mate.

KAYA
08-30-2009, 07:23 PM
YEAH! Keep calling the kettle black there mate.
What, are you saying I'm hypocritical for calling them out on it?

Vessol
08-30-2009, 07:27 PM
What, are you saying I'm hypocritical for calling them out on it?


"I would like to add that while these lefty elitist claim to be post racial, open minded and tolerant. They are actual very must consumed with race, close mined and highly intolerant. They hold great contempt and disdain for rural America, traditional Americans and any one who holds views to the right of their political ideology. They constantly demonize people who disagree with their collectivist views as racist, red-necks, ignorant, unenlightened, backwoods neanderthals."

While you collectivize and marginalize them :rolleyes:

The common view around here is that all liberals are government-loving god-less hippie heathen socialists.

Pod
08-30-2009, 07:36 PM
While you collectivize and marginalize them :rolleyes:

The common view around here is that all liberals are government-loving god-less hippie heathen socialists.

Bullshit. The thread is about the leftists who coincide with this archetype. There is no claim made that this is the case for all leftists in America. American Leftists are a very specific breed of leftists in America. Pro-establishment, chic, narcissist, kiss up - kick down leftists. I would not includde the Revolutionary Leftists (McKinney, Cockburn, Ochs...) among the American Left. They are not an originaly American phenomone. Cockburn could pose for a Social Revolutionary in 19th century Russia. Ted Kennedy suckups could not.

KAYA
08-30-2009, 07:39 PM
While you collectivize and marginalize them :rolleyes:

The common view around here is that all liberals are government-loving god-less hippie heathen socialists.

Collectivism is the political ideology that they promote, I am labeling it for what it is. I am not playing on race or using their tactics as so much as I am describing and exposing their hypocrisy.

Vessol
08-30-2009, 07:49 PM
Collectivism is the political ideology that they promote, I am labeling it for what it is. I am not playing on race or using their tactics as so much as I am describing and exposing their hypocrisy.

Collectivism is the tactic that ALL political ideologies promote.

Vessol
08-30-2009, 07:50 PM
Bullshit. The thread is about the leftists who coincide with this archetype. There is no claim made that this is the case for all leftists in America. American Leftists are a very specific breed of leftists in America. Pro-establishment, chic, narcissist, kiss up - kick down leftists. I would not includde the Revolutionary Leftists (McKinney, Cockburn, Ochs...) among the American Left. They are not an originaly American phenomone. Cockburn could pose for a Social Revolutionary in 19th century Russia. Ted Kennedy suckups could not.

And what of those on the right? What about them?

Pod
08-30-2009, 07:57 PM
And what of those on the right? What about them?

I don`t know much about them.

Vessol
08-30-2009, 08:00 PM
I don`t know much about them.

You can do better then that. Go back 2 years ago. What did you think of Bush and his supporters and those who voted him back into office in 2004.

Pod
08-30-2009, 08:10 PM
They constantly demonize people who disagree with their collectivist views as racist, red-necks, ignorant, unenlightened, backwoods neanderthals.

That is really the gist of it. Leftists of yore wanted to speak for the hillbillies, for the peasants, for the uneducated, for the poor. Not to hurl insults at them. Sometimes they even idealised them (as for example the Christian Socialists). They were about egalitarianism.

American Leftist on the other hand are all about superiority, smugness, snobbery. All that which is anti-egalitarian. Truly I think that in a sense the college bred permanent constituencies constitute a sort of aristocracy in the US. A class of people to back up the king in chaining the peasants and getting a sense of seniority compared to the peasant out of it in return.

Vessol
08-30-2009, 08:16 PM
That is really the gist of it. Leftists of yore wanted to speak for the hillbillies, for the peasants, for the uneducated, for the poor. Not to hurl insults at them. Sometimes they even idealised them (as for example the Christian Socialists). They were about egalitarianism.

American Leftist on the other hand are all about superiority, smugness, snobbery. All that which is anti-egalitarian. Truly I think that in a sense the college bred permanent constituencies constitute a sort of aristocracy in the US. A class of people to back up the king in chaining the peasants and getting a sense of seniority compared to the peasant out of it in return.

I would classify them as more a part of a class and a certain part of society then rather a political idealogy. Rather they are just a bunch of high-nosses asshats whom all tend to share somewhat similar beliefs.

Plenty of other groups like that all around America.

Pod
08-30-2009, 08:22 PM
You can do better then that. Go back 2 years ago. What did you think of Bush and his supporters and those who voted him back into office in 2004.

How about I don`t? I do not need to qualify my statements. I don`t need to say I think the right is no better before I am allowed to spill vitriol on the left. I do not need to bown down before your own personal version of PC.

If you have a specific problem with a specific statement of mine you are welcome to bring it up. But I see no reason to acknowledge conforming to your frame of permitted.

Vessol
08-30-2009, 08:25 PM
How about I don`t? I do not need to qualify my statements. I don`t need to say I think the right is no better before I am allowed to spill vitriol on the left. I do not need to bown down before your own personal version of PC.

If you have a specific problem with a specific statement of mine you are welcome to bring it up. But I see no reason to acknowledge conforming to your frame of permitted.

No. I just think you're a neoconservative in libertarian garb. There's a whole crowd of you now that your party is shown to be the piece of garbage it has been for decades. Now we just need people to realize the same about the Democrats.

Why won't you say what you thought of Bush. Why, were you positive of him? How can you critizise the Leftists, yet say nill about the equally big-government Rights.

Pod
08-30-2009, 08:31 PM
I would classify them as more a part of a class and a certain part of society then rather a political idealogy. Rather they are just a bunch of high-nosses asshats whom all tend to share somewhat similar beliefs.

Well that is a good way of seeing it too. Albeit the views of the ideological-intelectual vanguard that this class tries to assimilate are fairly uniform. So the variation is down to them failing to immerse themselves to the full extent into the culture of this class rather than there actually being a wide range of equivalentley acceptable viewpoints within it.

Pod
08-30-2009, 08:40 PM
No. I just think you're a neoconservative in libertarian garb. There's a whole crowd of you now that your party is shown to be the piece of garbage it has been for decades. Now we just need people to realize the same about the Democrats.

Why won't you say what you thought of Bush. Why, were you positive of him? How can you critizise the Leftists, yet say nill about the equally big-government Rights.

Yeah, or maybe I am a Communist and thus more easily angered by phony middle of the roaders than by outright reactionaries?

I have a rule. I don`t qualify my statements. Argue specific statements. Don`t argue my whole worldview.