Ron Paul "filtered" Poll

[silvestris]

This one ought to get your dander up. Did mine.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/05/analysis_of_the_may_gop_straw.php

[CurtisLow]

This says it all...

http://www.rightwingnews.com/_rwn_upgrade/title02.jpg

[DjLoTi]

Wow. There's no way to fight this one. I did this poll. I voted for Ron Paul. I'm not a spammer. But how do we prove it? Tough situation.

[CurtisLow]

Rule #1
Don't believe everything you read!

[RonPaul4President]

It should be called Right Wingnut News.

[JaylieWoW]

LOL so true.

Of the whole thing the first statement:

"After they filtered out everyone who put Ron Paul in first place to get rid of the enormous number of spammers who hit the poll, the online GOP Straw Polls had more than 9,000 votes cast this month from all around the blogosphere."

Read it a couple of times and see if "filtered out EVERYONE" doesn't sound a bit like "deleted all who voted positively for..." It might have gone over on me if they'd actually published some specific spam numbers such as such and such votes from a single IP address. Not that it would have convinced me but honestly, read that sentence again and you will keep reading it as... deleted all positive Ron Paul votes. And, you see it again "enormous number of spammers" instead of enormous number of spam votes. Ok, here we go again, re read it again... ENORMOUS NUMBER OF SPAMMERS.... as in there WERE LOTS OF SPAMMERS, AN ENORMOUS NUMBER OF THEM!! (ROFLMAO!!)

::sigh::

I just don't understand what is so frightening about small government, really, I don't "get" it. On the one hand the call him crazy and on the other comedians and other MSM "talking heads" are repeatedly criticizing politicians for their failure to follow the constitution, yet when a CONSTITUTIONAL candidate is in the running they attack him. I just don't get it!

[lucky]

I see he consults for Duncan Hunter. He arbitrarily discarded Ron Paul votes saying that 95% are spammers. Wow. Talk about bias.

[singapore_sling]

Wow these people clearly don't even know what spam is or how to detect it. It sickens me how little these people understand about technology.

[Kandilynn]

Wait until next year when Ron Paul supporters "Spam" the republican primaries. I mean, they all show up an vote and there are WAY too many of them to be real supporters of Ron Paul.

[zMtLlC]

I see he consults for Duncan Hunter. He arbitrarily discarded Ron Paul votes saying that 95% are spammers. Wow. Talk about bias.

And, just so happens that Hunter is doing well in that poll, even though he doesn't have much support country-wide. Coincidence? I think not.

[Bob Cochran]

Note the statement at the bottom of that web page: "I consult for the Duncan Hunter campaign".

We shouldn't waste our energy getting riled by what this guy says.

[drinkbleach]

I see he consults for Duncan Hunter. He arbitrarily discarded Ron Paul votes saying that 95% are spammers. Wow. Talk about bias.




I consult for the Duncan Hunter campaign.

LOL, 95% are spammers? And why then are spammers so dedicated to Ron Paul? Seriously? Why can't they just acknowledge that Ron Paul has a huge internet following? Internet voters are more likely to be moderates who are tech savvy. These people don't form the base of either Reps or Dems and are therefore being treated as though we are irrelevent.

[specsaregood]

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[Bob Cochran]

Let all attempts to discredit or smear Ron Paul merely strengthen our resolve to get him elected.

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

So if I set up a poll with all the candidates, and filter out all votes BUT those for Ron Paul, my poll would be just as valid. Interesting new math concept.

[lynnf]

I took the link to the GOP straw poll site that's on the Duncan Hunter
advocate's site, which got me here:

http://www.gopstrawpolls.com/pollresults.php

and I went up to upper right corner and selected May 2007-
here's what I got (not what the advocate got):

18515 ballots cast

First Choice:
Paul 8703 (47%)
F. Thompson 4077 (22%)
Romney 1955 (10.6%)
Giuliani 882 (4.8%)
Gingrich 606 (3.3%)
(none) 584 (3.2%)
Hunter 502 (2.7%)
Huckabee 397 (2.1%)
Tancredo 322 (1.7%)
Brownback 275 (1.5%)
McCain 150 (0.8%)
T. Thompson 38 (0.2%)
Gilmore 24 (0.1%)

Candidate acceptibility:

Brownback -6650 -35.9% 3738 (20.2%) 10388 (56.1%)
Gilmore -8953 -48.4% 2279 (12.3%) 11232 (60.7%)
Gingrich -3039 -16.4% 6165 (33.3%) 9204 (49.7%)
Giuliani -7446 -40.2% 4365 (23.6%) 11811 (63.8%)
Huckabee -2958 -16% 5586 (30.2%) 8544 (46.1%)
Hunter -2721 -14.7% 5735 (31%) 8456 (45.7%)
McCain -11361 -61.4% 2095 (11.3%) 13456 (72.7%)
Paul -709 -3.8% 6429 (34.7%) 7138 (38.6%)
Romney -1437 -7.8% 6906 (37.3%) 8343 (45.1%)
Tancredo -2682 -14.5% 5880 (31.8%) 8562 (46.2%)
F. Thompson 1369 +7.4% 7945 (42.9%) 6576 (35.5%)
T. Thompson -9221 -49.8% 2388 (12.9%) 11609 (62.7%)

[torchbearer]

I can see them dismissing ron paul's votes in the election as electronic voting fraud or something.

[billv]

Wait until next year when Ron Paul supporters "Spam" the republican primaries. I mean, they all show up an vote and there are WAY too many of them to be real supporters of Ron Paul.

Given the current state of the Republican Party, they'll discount 95% of Ron Paul votes as vote fraud.

[RPFever]

I would strongly encourage you to take a look at some of the comments on that page. Many Ron Paul supporters - some imbeciles.

Take a look at this guy...




HUR-RAY!

Thank God you got rid of those Ron Paul spammers.

I must have voted for like 7 hours straight using all my proxy IP addresses (and some TOR addresses) just for Duncan Hunter to come out on top (though seems we got some Fred Thompson fans doing the same thing :( ).

Oh well, at least a REAL republican wins!

Posted by Montanamight
June 4, 2007 11:35 PM |

[romelll]

Rudi McRomnny

Huckleberry Toms

Duncan Hunter who? Is he on the same page as Gilmore with not even a pulse?

I would say that if this guy is an advisor for Duncan Hunter he better look for another job. As they say, you can prove anything with statistics.

[JaylieWoW]

Wait until next year when Ron Paul supporters "Spam" the republican primaries. I mean, they all show up an vote and there are WAY too many of them to be real supporters of Ron Paul.

Classic!

[heiwa]

Maybe we should all get t-shirts that say "Filter This!" when we go to vote at the primaries.


Jen
Just another spammer for Peace

[JaylieWoW]

Maybe we should all get t-shirts that say "Filter This!" when we go to vote at the primaries.


Jen
Just another spammer for Peace

LOL, nice one Jen!

[LibertyBelle]

Of course he is biased and lying, he works for Duncan's campaign! Duncan second, you have got to be kidding. Here is an article exposing Duncan's very unscrupulous activities in San Diego/CA:

http://www.madcowprod.com/11012006.html

[heiwa]

Here's an interesting question though...

Who are we? Clearly most of us are not die-hard wealthy libertarian ghosts from the election of '88. So, who are we?

I have to admit that I'm sort of curious about you folks, and it would be interesting to see our demographics - from the posts I'd say we're a pretty diverse bunch. What I'm wondering is if we have any commonalities that might make getting the word out more effective besides our penchant for truth, liberty and the constitution. I'm personally most interested in those that did consider yourself as affiliated with a party and why you were drawn to Dr. Paul.

Is there any way to do questionnaires on this site?

Anyway - just late night musings after eating my 7000th bowl of rice.

Please, somebody eat some pizza for me.

Jen

[Captain Shays]

I Spam For Rudy!!!

[Original_Intent]

Wow.

I am not inclinded to use the "F" word, but the first thing that went through my mind when I read this was "What a bunch of f$#%tards" (Refering to the article, not the people in this thread =D)

[mconder]

Interesting not one pro paul comment was allowed on this article. Instead...here is one of the comments against Paul. Just who are the spammers?

HUR-RAY!

Thank God you got rid of those Ron Paul spammers.

I must have voted for like 7 hours straight using all my proxy IP addresses (and some TOR addresses) just for Duncan Hunter to come out on top (though seems we got some Fred Thompson fans doing the same thing :( ).

Oh well, at least a REAL republican wins!

[JaylieWoW]

Interesting not one pro paul comment was allowed on this article. Instead...here is one of the comments against Paul. Just who are the spammers?

HUR-RAY!

Thank God you got rid of those Ron Paul spammers.

I must have voted for like 7 hours straight using all my proxy IP addresses (and some TOR addresses) just for Duncan Hunter to come out on top (though seems we got some Fred Thompson fans doing the same thing :( ).

Oh well, at least a REAL republican wins!

Wow.

I don't know what else to say but ... wow.

So, its ok for everyone else BUT Ron Paul supporters to SPAM? Further, I've been suspecting that because of the spam hype of all the "anti-Pauls" that sites putting up a non IP blocked voting widget would only be focusing on preventing Ron Paul spam.

I sitll come back to the same thought over and over again, unless you are someone who profits or gains otherwise from "politics" why in the world would the millions of us who are NOT politicians have such a problem with someone advocating liberty? I wish I could think like those people do so I could reach them with their own reasoning, but I just can't even begin to fathom their reasoning!!

[KingTheoden]

I see he consults for Duncan Hunter. He arbitrarily discarded Ron Paul votes saying that 95% are spammers. Wow. Talk about bias.

I love how they throw around the word 'spammer.' A spammer is an individual who either floods email boxes with messages, pretends to be multiple people, or somehow force multiplies. In this case, a spammer would one person voting multiple times. However, the media and idiot critics like the one in this article consider spammers to just be people voting for the 'wrong' candidate. This isn't spam, this is a highly motivated and active support base. None of the other candidates come close to such a web presence on the Republican side; despite all the advantages given and head start, Obama is often behind Ron Paul or just ahead!

Given that this man is a campaign associate for someone who has barely any real grassroots support, I would take his insults as compliments!

[Original_Intent]

Long story short - "we messed with the numbers until we got the results we wanted".

They threw out 47 PERCENT of votes in order to get these results.

The EVIDENCE they provide that there was spamming is that most of the votes were REFERRED to the poll from three websites!

They further show that this shows that RP supporters were (gasp!) voting in multiple online polls! Obviously dirty, underhanded ORGANIZATION going on here! And by UNPAID volunteers! THAT'S not an organization you have to have tens of millions of dollars to have a REAL organization!

SPAM the polls in the primaries!

GO RON PAUL!

[Spatch67]

Remember when Ron Paul first announced his candidacy? I recall there was me and those other two people on the internet and we got onto one of those those little boats and rowed over to Jeckyll Island and hashed out our supreme plan of texting into post-debate polls. Am I the only one who remembers?

Anyway, yeah. post-debate polls, internet message boards, the whole plan is brilliantly conceived. And all I can say to this point is "Great work! Both of you!" I hope we can continue to spam the crap out of everything! And don't worry about the excessive text-messaging bills, Ron Paul said he'd take us out to dinner when this is all over.

I would also like to apologize to all of those studio audiences on Bill Maher and Jon Stuart who have been forced to give Ron Paul standing ovations because I stood in the corner with a bunch of dynamite and two wires threatening to blow the whole place up if people don't act nicely.

[Spatch67]

"Maybe we should all get t-shirts that say "Filter This!" when we go to vote at the primaries."

Outstanding idea Jen! Make the t-shirts, set up a website, I'm buying one. Maybe some of the proceeds can go toward the campaign :)