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FrankRep
08-26-2009, 06:31 AM
Reform Immigration for America (http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5267)


Catherine Mullins | John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/)
25 August 2009


The National Council of La Raza is launching a new campaign pushing for immigration reform that would grant illegal aliens in the United States a “path to citizenship” and get it passed before the end of 2009.

Imagine this scene: A store owner is robbed of all the cash in his register. The burglar is apprehended, but, instead of being forced to return what he has stolen to its proper owner and be sufficiently penalized, the robber is allowed to keep his ill-gotten gains, then use the windfall as capital to set up a store in competition with the one he just robbed. Outrageous, right? And yet this is essentially the picture of what illegal immigrants, from any country, do in America.

By virtue of being “illegal” they break United States law entering the country without permission, take money from tax payers by sending their children to schools funded by taxes they have not paid, and get their medical needs met in an emergency room paid for by money from taxes. So after essentially robbing the American public of these and other precious resources they are granted Americans’ jobs (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/immigration/1265).

Now the National Council of La Raza, “la raza” — translated as “the race” or “the people” — an organization dedicated to the Latino community, wants illegal immigrants already in the United States to be given a “path to citizenship.” “NCLR supports comprehensive immigration reforms that combine reasonable enforcement with reduction in family immigration backlogs … and a path to citizenship for those living and working in the U.S.” At the same time NCLR opposes entering the U.S. illegally (http://www.nclr.org/content/%20faqs/%20detail/%2043266/). “Just don’t get caught” might as well be NCLR’s motto.

Enter Reform Immigration FOR America (RIFA) (http://www.reformimmigrationforamerica.org/). NCLR sent out a press release June 1, 2009, announcing: “Leaders playing a central role in promoting immigration reform, including NCLR (National Council of La Raza), will officially launch the Reform Immigration FOR America Campaign. This groundbreaking, momentum-building effort organizes supporters of immigration reform into a stronger, more effective, and politically savvy national campaign which will help support President Obama and ensure that his promises of addressing comprehensive immigration reform become legislative reality.”

RIFA’s almost conservative-looking homepage states: “Our broken immigration system is hurting our economy, American families, and all American workers. Comprehensive immigration reform is the solution.” Sounds like something every American can agree to, until one looks a little bit deeper. On its “About Us” page, RIFA states boldly: “We must address the more than twelve million undocumented immigrants living in this country by creating a rigorous registration process that leads to lawful permanent resident status and eventual citizenship.”

It’s La Raza’s same old game: fix the problem by rewarding law-breakers. How this is supposed to help discourage people from crossing the border illegally, or promote justice for the thousands of people who wait patiently to enter this country legally, and utilizing the already-in-place legal path to citizenship, is unknown. The site continues by suggesting that deportation and detention for illegal passage is cruel, and that “people are forced to take life-threatening risks because they cannot enter legally.”

Perhaps the other motivation for this group is a more stealthy one: to foist immigration reform on the American people as fast as possible, the same way president Obama has tried to foist healthcare reform. “In 2007, millions marched” states the RIFA’s news page. “ Now, those millions are moving beyond the streets to swamp switchboards, email accounts, fax machines and the halls of Congress. ….The President is clear that he wants immigration reform to move forward this year so that we can pass a bill early next year … We hope to see detailed congressional proposals shortly after recess.”

According to the Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124957962686211693.html), a bill is currently being drafted to do just that.


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http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5267

the count
08-26-2009, 06:44 AM
La Raza, which means The Race, is just by its name, a racist organization!

Mitt Romneys sideburns
08-26-2009, 07:19 AM
La Raza, which means The Race, is just by its name, a racist organization!

I was reading a recent column from a black journalist. His thesis was that the reason you are calling La Raza a racist organization, and the reason you call the Congressional Black Caucus a racist organization, and the reason you think Judge Sotomayor is a racist, is because you are yourself a radical right wing racist who is trying to water down the word "racist". If you can call everything you see "racist", you can make the word lose its meaning. You are just covering for your own racism.

Doesnt that just make perfect sense?

Cowlesy
08-26-2009, 07:21 AM
I was reading a recent column from a black journalist. His thesis was that the reason you are calling La Raza a racist organization, and the reason you call the Congressional Black Caucus a racist organization, and the reason you think Judge Sotomayor is a racist, is because you are yourself a radical right wing racist who is trying to water down the word "racist". If you can call everything you see "racist", you can make the word lose its meaning. You are just covering for your own racism.

Doesnt that just make perfect sense?

lololol -- awesome

SelfTaught
08-26-2009, 07:49 AM
The site continues by suggesting that deportation and detention for illegal passage is cruel, and that “people are forced to take life-threatening risks because they cannot enter legally.”

What?!! What kind of shit is this?

That's like saying its cruel to send burglars to jail, and they are forced to take life threating risks (of getting shot) because they cannot invade homes legally.

catdd
08-26-2009, 08:19 AM
I was reading a recent column from a black journalist. His thesis was that the reason you are calling La Raza a racist organization, and the reason you call the Congressional Black Caucus a racist organization, and the reason you think Judge Sotomayor is a racist, is because you are yourself a radical right wing racist who is trying to water down the word "racist". If you can call everything you see "racist", you can make the word lose its meaning. You are just covering for your own racism.

Doesnt that just make perfect sense?

hahahahahaha
Looks like the Dems have the market cornered on racisim. But it's not a bad idea to start calling "everything we see" racist, and thus watering down the word to where it loses all meaning.
Not a bad idea at all.

InterestedParticipant
08-26-2009, 08:28 AM
So the gun toting ops at townhall events did not work, so now its full steam ahead on the racist wedges. I guess they're hoping they can turn the disenfranchised whites against the disenfranchised latinos, with people like AJ whipping up the whites with guns. The blacks have seen this crap for so long that they stopped listening to and believing in this kind of noise long ago.

Given the reactions I've seen in this forum regarding immigration & Mexico, I'd say they have a pretty good chance of getting both sides to take the bait and start attacking each other.

I wish people could just ignore the bait hooks dropped in front of us by controlled MSM and Patriot media.

P.S. Oh, and the New American plays right along, keeping the people in "their" dialectic (ie. vector) amped-up and focused on something other than those who create the economic scarcities that result in our problems.

FrankRep
08-26-2009, 08:30 AM
hahahahahaha
Looks like the Dems have the market cornered on racism. But it's not a bad idea to start calling "everything we see" racist, and thus watering down the word to where it loses all meaning.
Not a bad idea at all.


John Stossel: Every Obama Critic Called a Racist
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=207227


SAF Charges MSNBC with Playing "Racial Politics"
SAF: Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=207187

catdd
08-26-2009, 08:42 AM
They either don't understand or do no want to understand that there are racists and bigots in every race, creed, and color on earth - and it is perfectly obvious to anyone who has eyes to see.
They are simply turning a blind eye to their "own" racism and bigotry.

the count
08-26-2009, 08:48 AM
hahahahahaha
Looks like the Dems have the market cornered on racisim. But it's not a bad idea to start calling "everything we see" racist, and thus watering down the word to where it loses all meaning.
Not a bad idea at all.

if racist does not do the job, the left will brand you a homophobe! and if that does not shut you up they will call you are a racist, homophobic right wing nut!

the best way to counter such attacks are to not do what they expect, which is waste all your energy defending yourself, but to counter with a 'don't give a rats a** what commie bastards call me!"

InterestedParticipant
08-26-2009, 11:13 AM
if racist does not do the job, the left will brand you a homophobe! and if that does not shut you up they will call you are a racist, homophobic right wing nut!

the best way to counter such attacks are to not do what they expect, which is waste all your energy defending yourself, but to counter with a 'don't give a rats a** what commie bastards call me!"
Yup, I am politically incorrect and couldn't give a damn about it, because I determine my own thoughts irrespective of external pressures... that's what this country is all about!

We have the right to be stupid, wrong, and independently minded .....God dammit!

The biggest problem that I have is that this forum does NOT always live up to these ideals, for I would expect it here if anywhere.

Lord Xar
08-26-2009, 12:00 PM
So the gun toting ops at townhall events did not work, so now its full steam ahead on the racist wedges. I guess they're hoping they can turn the disenfranchised whites against the disenfranchised latinos, with people like AJ whipping up the whites with guns. The blacks have seen this crap for so long that they stopped listening to and believing in this kind of noise long ago.

Given the reactions I've seen in this forum regarding immigration & Mexico, I'd say they have a pretty good chance of getting both sides to take the bait and start attacking each other.

I wish people could just ignore the bait hooks dropped in front of us by controlled MSM and Patriot media.

P.S. Oh, and the New American plays right along, keeping the people in "their" dialectic (ie. vector) amped-up and focused on something other than those who create the economic scarcities that result in our problems.

ok. lets ignore the illegal immigrants who are pouring into this country like a tidal wave and using precious resources and tax payer monies. The only people who seem to be bringing up the "wedge" issue of race is you and the left. For most of us, its just about following the laws of the land. Get on board.

InterestedParticipant
08-26-2009, 12:46 PM
ok. lets ignore the illegal immigrants who are pouring into this country like a tidal wave and using precious resources and tax payer monies. The only people who seem to be bringing up the "wedge" issue of race is you and the left. For most of us, its just about following the laws of the land. Get on board.

Hey, look over there, its those Red Commie bastards from the Soviet Union as the Evil Empire.


No, wait, look over there, it is the Commie Gooks in Vietnam trying to turn over the dominos.


But, what about the Commies in Central & South America, they can drive to Houston in hours.


No, you're all wrong, it's those goddamn Japs stealing our car manufacturing business and importing better, cheaper and more fuel efficient cars into good ole USA... I say nuke the motherfucka's


Naw, that's old school, now you boyz better wake up and start worrying about them darn ragheads that want to kill us before we can kill them... them doz terrorist are crazy!


Hey, but China is going to kick our asses and sell all their treasuries so the USD become toilet paper.... them Chinese have taken all our jobs and now they want to destroy the country.


Wait, the New American now says we better worry about all those F'ing Mexicans trying to to steal our pensions, health care, pissant jobs and social programs... off with their heads while we kick their asses back to where they dang came from!


Jesus christ, I'm exhausted just typing the above list. How many more doggie treats is this forum and the public at large going to chase? When the fuck are you going to stop for a second and look who is holding those treats and making you run in circles? Talk about managing perception.

PS. You can keep your "Get on Board" comment. I'm a Libertarian, I don't follow the masses, or anyone else for that matter.

Flash
08-26-2009, 01:10 PM
La Raza is a racist organization, that cannot be denied. On Illegals, anyone who advocates illegal immigration & open borders in this un-libertarian society has to be mentally unstable. How are we going to pay for that? Never mind because of the War on Drugs the mexican thugs have been on the rise. These people hate America & by flooding our nation they are helping to bankrupt it. Of course the etlites would like to have a dumbed down population from Mexico. Honestly, I would only open the borders in a Libertarian society so I won't have to pay for them. Common sense.

InterestedParticipant
08-26-2009, 02:27 PM
La Raza is a racist organization, that cannot be denied. On Illegals, anyone who advocates illegal immigration & open borders in this un-libertarian society has to be mentally unstable. How are we going to pay for that? Never mind because of the War on Drugs the mexican thugs have been on the rise. These people hate America & by flooding our nation they are helping to bankrupt it. Of course the etlites would like to have a dumbed down population from Mexico. Honestly, I would only open the borders in a Libertarian society so I won't have to pay for them. Common sense.
I wonder what the La Raza controllers tell their dupes to say about the Conservative or Libertarians. Anyone know?

The bottom line is that these people (ie. societies controllers) will lead you around by the nose until they extract all your labor, all your wealth and exhaust your last breath.... all the while you will be fighting others who are being equally duped. Never will anyone stop to look up, never will anyone think to see who is creating the dialectics that pit humanity against itself while man is abused, robbed and exhausted.

This thread is soooo very sad. It so exemplifies our weaknesses and our inability to cease this psychopathic spiral of despair.

FrankRep
08-26-2009, 02:43 PM
I wonder what the La Raza controllers tell their dupes to say about the Conservative or Libertarians. Anyone know?

I oppose White Racists as much as I oppose La Raza.

Lord Xar
08-26-2009, 02:51 PM
I wonder what the La Raza controllers tell their dupes to say about the Conservative or Libertarians. Anyone know?

The bottom line is that these people (ie. societies controllers) will lead you around by the nose until they extract all your labor, all your wealth and exhaust your last breath.... all the while you will be fighting others who are being equally duped. Never will anyone stop to look up, never will anyone think to see who is creating the dialectics that pit humanity against itself while man is abused, robbed and exhausted.

This thread is soooo very sad. It so exemplifies our weaknesses and our inability to cease this psychopathic spiral of despair.

ok, why don't you tell all of us clueless and sheeple types what the real deal is with these "controllers". The floor is yours.

devil21
08-26-2009, 03:14 PM
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Jesus christ, I'm exhausted just typing the above list. How many more doggie treats is this forum and the public at large going to chase? When the fuck are you going to stop for a second and look who is holding those treats and making you run in circles? Talk about managing perception.

PS. You can keep your "Get on Board" comment. I'm a Libertarian, I don't follow the masses, or anyone else for that matter.

I agree with your sentiment as far as the really big picture is concerned. Many of these issues are distractions but they are also planned out ways to bring down the American heritage and American quality of life. Unless the People were to rise up against TPTB that are throwing the "doggie treats", in armed revolt and run them all out, we have to work on countering every issue they try to throw at us. In this case, it is the blind eye turned toward illegal immigration. People should ALWAYS keep their eyes on the big picture, which I think is what you continually advocate in threads and I agree with you, but doing anything against that big picture is pretty much impossible as things stand today. A real revolution would have to take place to address the big picture issues.

Flash
08-26-2009, 03:32 PM
I wonder what the La Raza controllers tell their dupes to say about the Conservative or Libertarians. Anyone know?

The bottom line is that these people (ie. societies controllers) will lead you around by the nose until they extract all your labor, all your wealth and exhaust your last breath.... all the while you will be fighting others who are being equally duped. Never will anyone stop to look up, never will anyone think to see who is creating the dialectics that pit humanity against itself while man is abused, robbed and exhausted.

This thread is soooo very sad. It so exemplifies our weaknesses and our inability to cease this psychopathic spiral of despair.

Yes I realize this. The etlites that run America encourage massive amounts of dumbed-down third worlders from Latin America because they're easy to control and cause racial tension. We're not in disagreement. But the fact is, La Raza is a racist organization that is promoting illegal immigration to try and reclaim the Southwest. What this will do is drain us of our wealth, why SHOULDN'T we fight against this? If someone on this thread was opposing the Ku Klux Klan and calling them racist, would you call them a divisive sheep? And Democrats support illegals & Hispanic immigration in general since they (the immigrants) usually vote Democrat, to be honest about it. I know Ron Paul will say how illegals are being unfairly blamed, it's true. But in the Socialist society that we now live in, illegal immigration is extremely DANGEROUS. I would be fine with open borders if there was no welfare, public education, war on drugs, etc... but we're not living in that type of society.

InterestedParticipant
08-27-2009, 09:33 AM
I oppose White Racists as much as I oppose La Raza.
You are then acting as a tool of this particular dialectic, and serving their system perfectly. Nature is a dialectic, which is what this system emulates. When this becomes clear, you will clearly see who is controlled opposition, and why, and how you fit in.

Right now, you -- just like the La Raza folks -- think your positions are just and righteous, and willing oppose other who you perceive as having opposing opinions. Both sides are being played. But instead of looking at who is "playing them" they attack others.

The La Raza followers are no different than you, both of you are in the same ring being steered by the same people at the top, albeit, through different front organizations.

But as Platos Cave allegory tells us, those inside the cave will attack anyone who comes in from the outside and attempts to tell them that they are indeed in a cave. I really wish people here would just step outside for a look around, its so much nicer outside than inside.