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specsaregood
08-25-2009, 11:34 AM
From: www. rollcall.com/news/37924-1.html



Twenty-three GOP Senators — including Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, the Bluegrass State’s senior Senator — are hosting a $500 per person fundraiser for Turncoat at National Republican Senatorial Committee headquarters Sept. 23.

The NRSC has not officially endorsed Turncoat but the location of the event and the fact that NRSC Chairman John Cornyn (Texas) is one of the hosts of the fundraiser is a good indication of where the committee’s loyalties lie in the race.


That's right folks, the people the helped increase our national debt to its stratospheric levels support Little Lord Fauntleroy. Color me surprised....

Austin
08-25-2009, 11:42 AM
Oh no :eek:, B-b-but it's not right to collect money from out of state! We need to focus on the issues important to Kentuckians.

:rolleyes:

erowe1
08-25-2009, 11:47 AM
I actually was a little (though not a lot) surprised to see that the NRSC is getting behind a candidate so overtly in a contested primary like this. This is not a huge surprise. But it is disappointing. The GOP is pulling out all the stops to shoot down Rand.

I say we schedule a money bomb on Sept. 23 to compete with their $500/plate fund raiser and make it our goal to dwarf it in $ raised.

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 11:49 AM
I say we schedule a money bomb on Sept. 23 to compete with their $500/plate fund raiser and make it our goal to dwarf it in $ raised.

That my ally, is a grand idea!

dr. hfn
08-25-2009, 11:49 AM
sent Mr. Bunning a message about this asking for his endorsement/support of Rand.

Austin
08-25-2009, 11:51 AM
I don't think Bunning is going to be swayed by our messages, in fact he hates being prodded.

However, the fact that the very people that ousted him are so quickly backing Trey... that might just anger him. We could see an interesting turn of events in the future, with Bunning's money. I doubt it, but it could happen....

Kotin
08-25-2009, 11:51 AM
we must run with this... we can really use this to our advantage.. these are the same people who ousted bunning..

brandon
08-25-2009, 11:52 AM
I will have $500 for the september 23rd money bomb.

acptulsa
08-25-2009, 11:54 AM
I actually was a little (though not a lot) surprised to see that the NRSC is getting behind a candidate so overtly in a contested primary like this. This is not a huge surprise. But it is disappointing. The GOP is pulling out all the stops to shoot down Rand.

With the Democratic Party disenfranchising more of its supporters daily, and the G.O.P. discredited already, this could be a handy way for people to discover who actually wants to represent them. We should send them a thank you card.


I say we schedule a money bomb on Sept. 23 to compete with their $500/plate fund raiser and make it our goal to dwarf it in $ raised.

'The high-dollar fundraising dinner was well-attended by fat pigs, but was handily beaten by the Dime at a Time Moneybomb...' :cool: Yeah, what a great way to remind them how thoroughly we have them outnumbered! There are so many more of us than you that our pennies add up better than your hundred dollar bills!

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 11:55 AM
'The high-dollar fundraising dinner was well-attended by fat pigs, but was handily beaten by the Dime at a Time Moneybomb...' :cool: Yeah, what a great way to remind them how thoroughly we have them outnumbered!

I wouldn't get too overconfident. Many of those fat-pigs will be maxing out.
But I think we found our new fundraising date folks. And this could be the push to get rand over a million.

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 11:56 AM
If you have a Republican Senator, it might be worth contacting them and urging them NOT to attend this dinner.

itshappening
08-25-2009, 11:57 AM
get a press release out Rand!

condemn these actions...

Young Paleocon
08-25-2009, 11:57 AM
Plus if we pull this off on September 23 and replicate anything that happened on Aug 20 we might have a good chance of out raising Gayson for the quarter.

itshappening
08-25-2009, 11:59 AM
Ron should hold a fundraiser in DC :)

anyway, the campaign should respond to this...

Dionysus
08-25-2009, 12:07 PM
Welcoming Trough Trey to his place at the trough for a major Washington pig-out!! Those senators should be forced to contribute the $500 bucks to paying down the huge debt they created.

We knew they weren't going to let an Aspen Institute investment go to waste.

:mad:

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 12:09 PM
Ron should hold a fundraiser in DC :)


I'd drive down.

TruthisTreason
08-25-2009, 12:09 PM
Same game... different year

axiomata
08-25-2009, 12:10 PM
The GOP hasn't changed one iota.

RyanRSheets
08-25-2009, 12:14 PM
We've got to get Bunning behind our campaign and we need to publicize the hell out of the fact that they're asking $500 per person. How could a fundraiser with a minimum contribution of $500 have the interests of the common man in mind? This will be easy to turn against them.

Remember, Remember the 23rd of September!

Cowlesy
08-25-2009, 12:17 PM
Dissing the constitutional conservative wing of the GOP (many of us) --- par for the course for the GOP. They've learned nothing.

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 12:18 PM
Hmmmm, maybe us East Coasters should have a tea party of our own out in front of the Republican Senatorial Committee headquarters on Sept. 23rd.

acptulsa
08-25-2009, 12:18 PM
The GOP hasn't changed one iota.

Yes, you're right--except that you're talking about the RNC, not my county. The grass roots are sprouting, despite their best attempts at mowing it all down. There are iotas of change, and before much longer they'll really be adding up.

Expose, expose, expose. The more obvious they make themselves this way, the more they'll neutralize their own kool aid.

RyanRSheets
08-25-2009, 12:21 PM
We need to figure out exactly what the venue is going to be and what the maximum capacity will be, and from there we need to secure pledges for donations to exceed the maximum potential of that event. Anyone have any idea on capacity?

dr. hfn
08-25-2009, 12:26 PM
I asked Dr. Paul about this just a few minutes ago on the Victoria Advocate livestream! lol

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 12:30 PM
I asked Dr. Paul about this just a few minutes ago on the Victoria Advocate livestream! lol

And?

amy31416
08-25-2009, 12:38 PM
I really want to take these bastards down a notch, or two.

dr. hfn
08-25-2009, 12:47 PM
And?

He said he wasn't surprised that they were ganging up on Rand b/c he is independent minded.

georgiaboy
08-25-2009, 12:49 PM
love the way y'all think & act.

acptulsa
08-25-2009, 12:50 PM
He said he wasn't surprised that they were ganging up on Rand b/c he is independent minded.

Great answer!


I really want to take these bastards down a notch, or two.

Or three. Or seven.

RyanRSheets
08-25-2009, 12:52 PM
I've been trying to figure out how much they raised for Crist when they did this same thing. Anyone know off hand?

Ethek
08-25-2009, 12:59 PM
I've been trying to figure out how much they raised for Crist when they did this same thing. Anyone know off hand?

Good angle to focus on!

erowe1
08-25-2009, 01:01 PM
Another politician I think the Rand people should contact and ask for an endorsement is former Indiana congressman, John Hostettler. He lives in the Evansville area right by the Kentucky border, so there are probably some Kentucky voters especially around Owensboro who know of him, and he's a constitutionalist who was one of the 6 Republicans who voted against the Iraq war. Hostettler has very vocally expressed disappointment with the GOP establishment in recent years, so if he's willing to get involved (which he may not be) I'd guess that he'd back Rand.

axiomata
08-25-2009, 01:06 PM
Hmmmm, maybe us East Coasters should have a tea party of our own out in front of the Republican Senatorial Committee headquarters on Sept. 23rd.

Definitely!

Big government GOPers have gotten off too easy from the Tea Party "anger".

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 01:09 PM
Definitely!

Big government GOPers have gotten off too easy from the Tea Party "anger".

Too bad it is on a wednesday, BUT it is only 3 days after the CFL NE conference ends. Should be a prime opportunity to get some people riled up and planning at that conference.

itshappening
08-25-2009, 01:12 PM
can we contact local folk and get some protests going in DC, that would be great!

PROTEST the senators

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 01:12 PM
I'm not familiar with the area, but this appears to be the address:

425 2nd Street NE Washington, DC 20002

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=425+2nd+Street+NE+Washington,+DC+20002&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=41.632176,91.669922&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=38.895572,-77.003517&panoid=Ql1gLfO0xn6EfsQSRWNzig&cbp=12,302.97,,0,-7.61

It looks like lots of space for big demonstration...

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 01:16 PM
Contact:
National Republican Senatorial Committee
Ronald Reagan Republican Center
425 2nd Street NE
Washington, DC 20002
Telephone: (202) 675-6000
info@nrsc.org


Perhaps it is time to email and light up the phones in opposition.
Can somebody draft a sample letter/email, I have to get back to work, if nobody has by the time I return I'll draft one up. Then it is time to light up the internets.

acptulsa
08-25-2009, 01:22 PM
Concerning the Kentucky Senate race, I have been informed that Trey Grayson's campaign is receiving direct help from the G.O.P. in the form of a high dollar fundraiser being held in his honor and for his benefit.

Do you really consider this ethical? This is a primary contest, and I don't see why a primary wouldn't be a level playing field. Folks, there's a reason the 'smoke filled room' fell out of favor--one supposes that if we wanted that, we'd have kept it. Instead, our grandparents fought against it and won, or at least we thought they won that battle for us.

Why do you no longer trust Republicans to choose the person they want to represent them? Are you afraid the person they choose won't acquit himself well against the Democrats? Or is there another reason? I can't help but believe there's another reason, because I personally can't imagine Trey doing better against them than Rand.

Step aside and leave this to us, please. The rank and file are the true 'party bosses' in a true Republic, not yourselves. It would behoove you to keep this simple fact in mind. Thank you.

erowe1
08-25-2009, 01:30 PM
Concerning the Kentucky Senate race, I have been informed that Trey Grayson's campaign is receiving direct help from the G.O.P. in the form of a high dollar fundraiser being held in his honor and for his benefit.

Do you really consider this ethical? This is a primary contest, and I don't see why a primary wouldn't be a level playing field. Folks, there's a reason the 'smoke filled room' fell out of favor--one supposes that if we wanted that, we'd have kept it. Instead, our grandparents fought against it and won, or at least we thought they won that battle for us.

Why do you no longer trust Republicans to choose the person they want to represent them? Are you afraid the person they choose won't acquit himself well against the Democrats? Or is there another reason? I can't help but believe there's another reason, because I personally can't imagine Trey doing better against them than Rand.

Step aside and leave this to us, please. The rank and file are the true 'party bosses' in a true Republic, not yourselves. It would behoove you to keep this simple fact in mind. Thank you.

Your sentiment is right on. But one factual matter that they'll fall back on is that this fund raiser is not officially connected to any party organization. The NRSC isn't actually running it, even though Cornyn is involved. It's really just a bunch of senators helping the Grayson campaign on their own.

Nevertheless, this fundraiser is definitely a sign that the smoke filled room issue is at play here. Make no mistake, we're up against something big. My guess is that the unofficial party order has already made its way all the way down the food chain to the level of the county parties making sure that all Republicans either holding leadership in the party or elected in government offices had better make sure that if they endorse anyone in this contest or invite anyone to speak at any events, it had better be Grayson and not Rand. And there will be repercussions for those who don't play along.

specsaregood
08-25-2009, 01:32 PM
Your sentiment is right on. But one factual matter that they'll fall back on is that this fund raiser is not officially connected to any party organization. The RNSC isn't actually running it, even though Cornyn is involved. It's really just a bunch of senators helping the Grayson campaign on their own.

Except they are holding it at the NSRC headquarters. Unless they are being charged rent for the event they are receiving help even if minimal in monetary amount, but huge in establishment backing amount.

georgiaboy
08-25-2009, 01:33 PM
^!!

anyone know the names of the 23 GOP Senators 'hosting' this event? I want to know how many of them voted for the bailouts & other garbage.

Also, is this group comprised of all Republican Senators, or is it a membership by choice? I don't see a lot of info on this group on the web.

EDIT: By 'group', I mean the NRSC.

acptulsa
08-25-2009, 01:36 PM
Your sentiment is right on. But one factual matter that they'll fall back on is that this fund raiser is not officially connected to any party organization. The RNSC isn't actually running it, even though Cornyn is involved. It's really just a bunch of senators helping the Grayson campaign on their own.

That's close enough. For the youngsters, a point of information: The phrase 'smoke filled room' may not mean much to you, as it has kind of fallen out of the curriculum since the Department of Education was established. But for anyone middle aged and older (and God knows the G.O.P. has a few of those) that phrase is charged, and says it all.

You might modify a bit to reflect erowe's right and proper observation. But they should understand how we're painting it. And if a group of senators isn't close enough--if they can't fill a room with cigar smoke rather thoroughly--I'll eat my hat.

Sean
08-25-2009, 01:40 PM
I think we need to contact our senator if they are involved in this. I live in Texas so I am going to contact Cornyn.

acptulsa
08-25-2009, 01:43 PM
Having typed all of that, I think I'll just send this much to Inhofe and Coburn:

I sincerely hope you're not involved in this Trey Grayson fundraiser. The 'smoke filled room' is no more, and some of us are determined to keep it that way.

itshappening
08-25-2009, 01:44 PM
I think we need to contact our senator if they are involved in this. I live in Texas so I am going to contact Cornyn.

excellent idea!

Dionysus
08-25-2009, 02:04 PM
Will there be white-gloved waiters serving caviar and truffle-infused salmon to these bailout cronies? I'm sure Kentuckians can't relate to that. I'm also sure they don't appreciate being told who their next senator will be by a bunch of Goldman Sachs minions. Can we get a menu and make our own copies? We won't ever be able to have unlimited money, like the Fed functionaries do, but we do have American scrappiness.

Sean
08-25-2009, 02:08 PM
Called Cornyn's office and they can't discussing it due law. They said to call NRSC at 202 675 6000 since they are hosting it.

Sean
08-25-2009, 02:11 PM
Just got to calling them. They said this is pretty much Cornyn call. We people in Texas need to get on his case. This isn't the first time he is supporting a moderate against a Conservative.

itshappening
08-25-2009, 02:24 PM
I hope Rand has a press release ready condemning this! TRUTH? this is a big story :)

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 02:26 PM
Time for a new project! Huge opportunity here.

Framed the right way, we can make this a slam dunk.

Something like Washington VS The People - The National Battle For Kentucky!

Cowlesy
08-25-2009, 02:27 PM
Time for a new project! Huge opportunity here.

Framed the right way, we can make this a slam dunk.

Something like Washington VS The People - The National Battle For Kentucky!

i like the cut of your jib

erowe1
08-25-2009, 02:27 PM
Called Cornyn's office and they can't discussing it due law. They said to call NRSC at 202 675 6000 since they are hosting it.

What law? All you're doing is passing on the message that you don't appreciate what he's doing. You're not just complaining against the NRSC, you're complaining against him personally for his own involvement. How else are you supposed to tell him that you as his constituent don't appreciate what he's doing here if not via his office? It looks to me like his staffers are giving you the run around. And you don't need them to answer any questions. I'm not sure how the conversation went, but I'd recommend simply asking them to pass on the message that you are opposed to his supporting Grayson in a contested Republican primary. And if they say they won't pass along the message, then email and fax them. If enough Texans do this, his staff will take note of it, and even if they outwardly distance themselves from it, you can be sure they'll let Cornyn know what the general sentiment is.

itshappening
08-25-2009, 02:27 PM
The establishment in Washington are trying to interfere in an election in Kentucky!

outrageous.

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 02:33 PM
Throwing out marketing and promotion ideas...

Frame it like a big UFC fight. Make the website look like a UFC promotion page for a big event.

Replace names with Washington VS The People

http://imgur.com/VfTJ2.jpg

http://imgur.com/PxBZV.jpg

Youtube videos and everything!

Sean
08-25-2009, 02:33 PM
What law? All you're doing is passing on the message that you don't appreciate what he's doing. You're not just complaining against the NRSC, you're complaining against him personally for his own involvement. How else are you supposed to tell him that you as his constituent don't appreciate what he's doing here if not via his office? It looks to me like his staffers are giving you the run around. And you don't need them to answer any questions. I'm not sure how the conversation went, but I'd recommend simply asking them to pass on the message that you are opposed to his supporting Grayson in a contested Republican primary. And if they say they won't pass along the message, then email and fax them. If enough Texans do this, his staff will take note of it, and even if they outwardly distance themselves from it, you can be sure they'll let Cornyn know what the general sentiment is.

I think we do both. Contact his office and the NRSC. I made it clear I wasn't happy with it. I will not vote for Cornyn if he is working against conservatives. Heck I will probably call my Congressman and local Republican offices.

RyanRSheets
08-25-2009, 02:37 PM
Time for a new project! Huge opportunity here.

Framed the right way, we can make this a slam dunk.

Something like Washington VS The People - The National Battle For Kentucky!

Agreed!

A few things I want to suggest:

- This is national newsworthy! Make sure all of the big names are aware. Don't forget all the people like Alex Jones.
- When they did this same thing for Crist not too long ago Huckabee came out againt them. Make sure he knows, and have him talk about it on his program. If we can get in touch with him, make sure he talks to all the other guys at Fox News!
- I'm going to suggest that we make it a talking point during the upcoming major tea party here and with people we talk to at the state fair.
- We absolutely need to move our second money bomb up to this date and find out what they raised for Crist. We need to shoot for at least that amount. $500,000 should be more than doable if we use this properly.
- Get someone high up in Campaign for Liberty to send out an email about this fundamental abuse of position. They don't have to endorse Rand to express the audacity of this. I think this may actually be a legal way for us to let everyone in Campaign for Liberty know about our campaign without breaking McCain-Feingold.

RyanRSheets
08-25-2009, 02:37 PM
This is going to go viral. This is the big break we needed, we just have to see it as such.

dr. hfn
08-25-2009, 02:38 PM
hehe i'm giddy!

Lord Xar
08-25-2009, 02:40 PM
You have a great idea, there is alot of potential here. But there needs to be an angle here on how it gets tied to Kentucky. What I mean is, alot of supporters all over the U.S is good for moral, monetary support BUT the real lifting is in the voters of Kentucky. How can they see and see how this is framed? Radio ads? Print? Mailings... ala "operation smash corruption" or whatever.

I don't want this opportunity wasted with us getting the same people on board without hitting the mark with "new kentuckians/voters" etc...






Throwing out marketing and promotion ideas...

Frame it like a big UFC fight. Make the website look like a UFC promotion page for a big event.

Replace names with Washington VS The People

http://imgur.com/VfTJ2.jpg

http://imgur.com/PxBZV.jpg

Youtube videos and everything!

acptulsa
08-25-2009, 02:42 PM
You have a great idea, there is alot of potential here. But there needs to be an angle here on how it gets tied to Kentucky. What I mean is, alot of supporters all over the U.S is good for moral, monetary support BUT the real lifting is in the voters of Kentucky. How can they see and see how this is framed? Radio ads? Print? Mailings... ala "operation smash corruption" or whatever.

I don't want this opportunity wasted with us getting the same people on board without hitting the mark with "new kentuckians/voters" etc...

Name the combatants Washington and Kentucky. Paint Grayson as an insider and Paul as an outsider.

In this corner, champeen D.C. Grayson and in this corner, scrappy Kentucky Paul...?

Bman
08-25-2009, 02:44 PM
Time for a new project! Huge opportunity here.

Framed the right way, we can make this a slam dunk.

Something like Washington VS The People - The National Battle For Kentucky!

You beat me to the punch. I was thinking the same thing. If anything this should be enough ammo to completely turn the polls in favor of Rand.

erowe1
08-25-2009, 02:46 PM
Name the combatants Washington and Kentucky. Paint Grayson as an insider and Paul as an outsider.

In this corner, champeen D.C. Grayson and in this corner, scrappy Kentucky Paul...?

I don't know. If we're still talking about a money bomb that is designed deliberately to draw in maximum monetary support, not just from Kentuckians, but from all over, then we might not want to play it up as a contest of people inside Kentucky vs. people outside Kentucky. That seems like setting ourselves up for a charge of hypocrisy and/or giving people outside Kentucky less incentive to donate to the money bomb.

But I do like emphasizing some angle of the common man versus the elite.

RyanRSheets
08-25-2009, 02:49 PM
I don't know. If we're still talking about a money bomb that is designed deliberately to draw in maximum monetary support, not just from Kentuckians, but from all over, then we might not want to play it up as a contest of people inside Kentucky vs. people outside Kentucky. That seems like setting ourselves up for a charge of hypocrisy and/or giving people outside Kentucky less incentive to donate to the money bomb.

But I do like emphasizing some angle of the common man versus the elite.

I think it needs to be more about the common man versus the wealthy elites of Washington. We don't need to make this about just Kentuckians, because Rand will represent every one of us well.

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 02:49 PM
Went ahead and registered KentuckyFight.com

Totally agree with you Xar. We should do some luntz thinking on what we want to go on the website.

How I see it is Washington Vs The People on a national level fighting for Kentucky. Not sure if that's the best way to do it.

Kentucky Fight is the name of the University of Kentucky's fight song.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_Fight


Kentucky! We will beat the foe!
Kentucky! Onward we will go!
Kentucky! We all hail to thee,
and victors we will be today!
Rah! Rah! Rah!

There may be some way to incorporate it.

Ethek
08-25-2009, 02:53 PM
As other Mike would say , for those of you that know him.

Its on like Donkey Kong!

Bman
08-25-2009, 02:56 PM
Went ahead and registered KentuckyFight.com

Totally agree with you Xar. We should do some luntz thinking on what we want to go on the website.

How I see it is Washington Vs The People on a national level fighting for Kentucky. Not sure if that's the best way to do it.

Kentucky Fight is the name of the University of Kentucky's fight song.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_Fight



There may be some way to incorporate it.



The versions of the songs I've heard/lyrics are different than what is listed at wiki.

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 02:58 PM
The versions of the songs I've heard/lyrics are different than what is listed at wiki.

This it?

http://www.uky.edu/CampusGuide/on-on.html

Bman
08-25-2009, 02:59 PM
This it?

http://www.uky.edu/CampusGuide/on-on.html

Yup

Sean
08-25-2009, 03:01 PM
I actually was a little (though not a lot) surprised to see that the NRSC is getting behind a candidate so overtly in a contested primary like this. This is not a huge surprise. But it is disappointing. The GOP is pulling out all the stops to shoot down Rand.

I say we schedule a money bomb on Sept. 23 to compete with their $500/plate fund raiser and make it our goal to dwarf it in $ raised.

Nice idea maybe promote a September 23rd bomb with the idea of the people versus the establishment. Ask for like 10 dollar donations. News media will pick it up and give exposure to what the NRSC is doing.

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 03:02 PM
Nice idea maybe promote a September 23rd bomb with the idea of the people versus the establishment. Ask for like 10 dollar donations. News media will pick it up and give exposure to what the NRSC is doing.

Did you read the last twenty posts? ;)

It's in the works!

samforpaul
08-25-2009, 03:13 PM
I like the idea of having a Money Bomb to offset their fundraiser.
HOWEVER, I'd like to see it a day or two after theirs so we have a goal and know what to shoot for.

Bman
08-25-2009, 03:14 PM
I think this is the Kentucky fight song you found Josh.

YouTube - Kentucky Fight Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-3NL6yhZIQ)

erowe1
08-25-2009, 03:21 PM
I like the idea of having a Money Bomb to offset their fundraiser.
HOWEVER, I'd like to see it a day or two after theirs so we have a goal and know what to shoot for.

I think the opposite. If we know they raised $150k, then we'll have people take it easy and not donate beyond that. What we want is the entire nationwide network of constitutionalists, conservatives, libertarians, tea party goers, anti-bailouters, and Ron Paul Republicans to feel that sense of nervousness in their bones on that day, not knowing if they'll beat us, and desperate to make sure they don't. And when the dust settles, we don't want to come out $1 ahead. We want to bury them.

It has to be head-to-head.

Bman
08-25-2009, 03:23 PM
Do we have a list of the 23 senators? We may be able to convince some of them to back out.

georgiaboy
08-25-2009, 03:23 PM
this could be a game changer.

georgiaboy
08-25-2009, 03:25 PM
Do we have a list of the 23 senators? We may be able to convince some of them to back out.

maybe the reporter at rollcall.com has it?

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 03:27 PM
Do we have a list of the 23 senators? We may be able to convince some of them to back out.

I think it would be better if they don't back out.

It shows how biased the corrupt are in supporting their own.

When the deck is stacked against you, people are more willing to help out.

Cowlesy
08-25-2009, 03:29 PM
I wonder if this is for the $28,500 club folks.

Jeremy Tyler
08-25-2009, 03:30 PM
Remember remember the 23rd of september.

Yeah we def need to get some video's and themes going here. Maybe like some rocky music of rand campaigning to beat day smayson, or like rage against the machine with of course the senators being the washington machine. There is gonna be so many flow of ideas coming from this. They are hurting themselves more than they are helping themselves with this one.

Bryan
08-25-2009, 03:46 PM
I support this money bomb, effort. :)


You have a great idea, there is alot of potential here. But there needs to be an angle here on how it gets tied to Kentucky.

I agree- how about, rather than a fight theme, go with a Kentucky Derby one. :)

http://a11news.com/images/kentucky-derby-home-stretch.jpg

Austin
08-25-2009, 03:47 PM
Be sure to paint it "Common folk vs Washington elite" because that's what this is really about. Be sure to mention that Grayson's top contribution group is "Lawyers & Lobbyists"

freedoms-light
08-25-2009, 03:52 PM
Are you feeling just a little be-trey-ed by Washington elites taking your hard earned tax money and sending it to their bosses on Wall Street? I thought Senators were supposed to work for the people - you know - on Main Street. People like me and you. We don't need to send a career politician beholden to the financial elite to Washington. Send one of our own. Send Dr. Rand Paul

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 03:54 PM
I agree- how about, rather than a fight theme, go with a Kentucky Derby one.
http://a11news.com/images/kentucky-derby-home-stretch.jpg

The last one was a Kentucky Derby theme.

This one really is a fight. See who can raise more money... The Washington Insiders or The People.

Austin
08-25-2009, 03:55 PM
Are you feeling just a little be-trey-ed by Washington elites taking your hard earned tax money and sending it to their bosses on Wall Street? I thought Senators were supposed to work for the people - you know - on Main Street. People like me and you. We don't need to send a career politician beholden to the financial elite to Washington. Send one of our own. Send Dr. Rand Paul

I love it! :D

Epic
08-25-2009, 03:55 PM
There's not much time between now and Sept 23. It will need to be promoted like crazy.

ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY is regaining hold of facebook.com/ronpaul

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 03:58 PM
I'll start on the website tomorrow.

I need some help with graphics. Awake? Who else is an ace at making high quality banners that we know?

RandomUser
08-25-2009, 04:04 PM
Greetings from the Heart of Kentucky. I must say I am excited about this idea. My input.

Don't mention Trey. They will try to paint Trey as the Bi-Partisan candidate that is more likely to win the general. Some may be swayed by this argument here in the state. We know this is not true as A. Liberty candidates attract all types and B. Those that stand in the middle usually get hit by traffic. The target should be The People vs The Politicians. We should attack the NRSC for trying to sway the election. Simply act as if Trey does not exist. Remember the target should be the Politicians.

I like the idea of pledging say $100 as opposed to the $500 dinner. You can promote it as "20% the cost of a fancy Washington DC soiree but 100% more Liberty." Great Taste AND Less Filling!

Austin
08-25-2009, 04:07 PM
Greetings from the Heart of Kentucky. I must say I am excited about this idea. My input.

Don't mention Trey. They will try to paint Trey as the Bi-Partisan candidate that is more likely to win the general. Some may be swayed by this argument here in the state. We know this is not true as A. Liberty candidates attract all types and B. Those that stand in the middle usually get hit by traffic. The target should be The People vs The Politicians. We should attack the NRSC for trying to sway the election. Simply act as if Trey does not exist. Remember the target should be the Politicians.

I like the idea of pledging say $100 as opposed to the $500 dinner. You can promote it as "20% the cost of a fancy Washington DC soiree but 100% more Liberty." Great Taste AND Less Filling!

Great input. I don't know about not mentioning Trey at all but I definitely agree with your other sentiments. Especially "The People vs The Politicians" and the notion that the NRSC is trying the sway the election.

EDIT: Also, welcome to the forum. :D

bew2005
08-25-2009, 04:08 PM
My two cents as a life long Kentucky resident. You may alientate some people with the UK fight song (believe it or not, Louisville fans exist hahaha).

Another song that is very near to Kentuckian's hearts is "My Old Kentucky Home" which is our state song. There may be some way to twist the lyrics against Trey Mason and very much in support of Rand Paul. The jist of the song is that once you are away from Kentucky, you long to come back. My thinking for using the lyrics could somehow portray Trey Mason's eyes on Washington with Rand Paul thinking about Kentucky while in DC. Again, just my two cents.

Here are the lyrics:

The sun shines bright in the old Kentucky home,
'Tis summer, the people are gay;
The corn-top's ripe and the meadow's in the bloom,
While the birds make music all the day.

The young folks roll on the little cabin floor,
All merry, all happy and bright;
By 'n' by Hard Times comes a-knocking at the door,
Then my old Kentucky home, goodnight.

Chorus:
Weep no more my lady
Oh! weep no more today!
We will sing one song for the old Kentucky home,
For the Old Kentucky Home far away.

YouTube - My old Kentucky home. ケンタッ*ーの我が家 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2frKxOaMCRE)

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 04:10 PM
My two cents as a life long Kentucky resident. You may alientate people with the UK fight song (believe it or not, Louisville fans exist hahaha).

Good point. Was just throwing out random ideas.

Probably best to leave it out.

RandomUser
08-25-2009, 04:15 PM
Xlnt Point, Don't forget the few Western Freaks who are in love with that giant gumdrop. (I kid because I love)



My two cents as a life long Kentucky resident. You may alientate some people with the UK fight song (believe it or not, Louisville fans exist hahaha).

Another song that is very near to Kentuckian's hearts is "My Old Kentucky Home" which is our state song. There may be some way to twist the lyrics against Trey Mason and very much in support of Rand Paul. My thinking for using the lyrics could somehow portray Trey Mason's eyes on Washington with Rand Paul thinking about Kentucky while in DC. Again, just my two cents.

Here are the lyrics:

The sun shines bright in the old Kentucky home,
'Tis summer, the people are gay;
The corn-top's ripe and the meadow's in the bloom,
While the birds make music all the day.

The young folks roll on the little cabin floor,
All merry, all happy and bright;
By 'n' by Hard Times comes a-knocking at the door,
Then my old Kentucky home, goodnight.

Chorus:
Weep no more my lady
Oh! weep no more today!
We will sing one song for the old Kentucky home,
For the Old Kentucky Home far away.

YouTube - My old Kentucky home. ケンタッ*ーの我が家 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2frKxOaMCRE)

Jeremy Tyler
08-25-2009, 04:18 PM
Xlnt Point, Don't forget the few Western Freaks who are in love with that giant gumdrop. (I kid because I love)

Yeah they do love that blob, but that is where Dr. Paul lives, so maybe we can get a picture of him with it?

RandomUser
08-25-2009, 04:50 PM
List of Senators
I transcribed these from a phone call so I may have misspelled the names.

Alexander
Bennett
Bond
Burr
Chambliss
Coburn
Cochran
Collins
Cornyn
Crapo
Enzi
Grassly
Hatch
Johans
Isaacson
Kyle
McConnell
Mccain
Murkowski
Sessions
Thune
Vitter
Voinovich

Bryan
08-25-2009, 04:59 PM
The last one was a Kentucky Derby theme.
I was just thinking that on the way home. It could still work (since we'll be attracting a whole bunch of new people) but something new is good too. :) Onward!

Lord Xar
08-25-2009, 05:02 PM
Are you feeling just a little be-trey-ed by Washington elites taking your hard earned tax money and sending it to their bosses on Wall Street? I thought Senators were supposed to work for the people - you know - on Main Street. People like me and you. We don't need to send a career politician beholden to the financial elite to Washington. Send one of our own. Send Dr. Rand Paul

That is real good, I feel. I think you have a bit more room here, perhaps add this:

"...sending it to their bosses on Wall Street? The same senators who's top contributors are lawyers and lobbyists! I thought Senators were supposed...."

Michigan11
08-25-2009, 05:15 PM
That is real good, I feel. I think you have a bit more room here, perhaps add this:

"...sending it to their bosses on Wall Street? The same senators who's top contributors are lawyers and lobbyists! I thought Senators were supposed...."

What about? ... be-tray-al is getting a washington fundraiser bailout..

Just throwing it out there...

dr. hfn
08-25-2009, 05:22 PM
Do we seriously want to have another moneybomb this soon? What about November 5th? I know I'm all tapped out.

amy31416
08-25-2009, 05:26 PM
I'm liking the passion that's emerging around this.

This is war without the AK-47's.

Will we let them beat us when they take us on directly, after everything else they've pulled on us?

Enough is enough.

georgiaboy
08-25-2009, 05:27 PM
10/01/08 Vote on Financial Bailout Bill
(S. Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424)

Alexander (TN) - Yea
Bennett (UT) - Yea
Bond (MO) - Yea
Burr (NC) - Yea
Chambliss (GA) - Yea
Coburn (OK) - Yea
Cochran (MS) - Nay
Collins (ME) - Yea
Cornyn (TX) - Yea
Crapo (ID) - Nay
Enzi (WY) - Nay
Grassley (IA)- Yea
Hatch (UT) - Yea
Johanns (NE) - didn't vote, freshman in 11/08
Isakson (GA) - Yea
Kyl (AZ) - Yea
McConnell (KY) - Yea
Mccain (AZ) - Yea
Murkowski (AK) - Yea
Sessions (AL) - Nay
Thune (SD) - Yea
Vitter (LA) - Nay
Voinovich (OH) - Yea

17 Yea
5 Nay
1 freshman not around 10/08

TruthisTreason
08-25-2009, 05:28 PM
List of Senators
I transcribed these from a phone call so I may have misspelled the names.

Alexander
Bennett
Bond
Burr
Chambliss
Coburn
Cochran
Collins
Cornyn
Crapo
Enzi
Grassly
Hatch
Johans
Isaacson
Kyle
McConnell
Mccain
Murkowski
Sessions
Thune
Vitter
Voinovich

How many voted for TARP?

amy31416
08-25-2009, 05:28 PM
Do we seriously want to have another moneybomb this soon? What about November 5th? I know I'm all tapped out.

I understand. I'm thinking about shit I can sell.

Dionysus
08-25-2009, 05:28 PM
List of Senators
I transcribed these from a phone call so I may have misspelled the names.

Alexander
Bennett
Bond
Burr
Chambliss
Coburn
Cochran
Collins
Cornyn
Crapo
Enzi
Grassly
Hatch
Johans
Isaacson
Kyle
McConnell
Mccain
Murkowski
Sessions
Thune
Vitter
Voinovich

If this list is accurate, good job, and they all voted for the bailout except five:
Cochran, Crapo, Enzi, Sessions, Vitter.

Source: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1434336.php/The_Senate_bail-out_vote_tally_complete_list

TruthisTreason
08-25-2009, 05:29 PM
10/01/08 Vote on Financial Bailout Bill
(S. Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424)

Alexander (TN) - Yea
Bennett (UT) - Yea
Bond (MO) - Yea
Burr (NC) - Yea
Chambliss (GA) - Yea
Coburn (OK) - Yea
Cochran (MS) - Nay
Collins (ME) - Yea
Cornyn (TX) - Yea
Crapo (ID) - Nay
Enzi (WY) - Nay
Grassley (IA)- Yea
Hatch (UT) - Yea
Johanns (NE) - didn't vote, freshman in 11/08
Isakson (GA) - Yea
Kyl (AZ) - Yea
McConnell (KY) - Yea
Mccain (AZ) - Yea
Murkowski (AK) - Yea
Sessions (AL) - Nay
Thune (SD) - Yea
Vitter (LA) - Nay
Voinovich (OH) - Yea

17 Yea
5 Nay
1 freshman not around 10/08

Thanks!

How long have the other nay votes been in the Senate?

RandomUser
08-25-2009, 05:32 PM
If this list is accurate, good job, and they all voted for the bailout except five:
Cochran, Crapo, Enzi, Sessions, Vitter.

Source: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1434336.php/The_Senate_bail-out_vote_tally_complete_list

Yes, Got it from a very accurate source. Long time lurker, First time poster.

Ethek
08-25-2009, 05:39 PM
Yes, Got it from a very accurate source. Long time lurker, First time poster.

That list looks familiar :) Good work.

georgiaboy
08-25-2009, 05:41 PM
yep, great job, RU and welcome to the forums!

TruthisTreason
08-25-2009, 05:44 PM
I support this money bomb, effort. :)



http://a11news.com/images/kentucky-derby-home-stretch.jpg

It is our weapon.... But, I have a feeling our movement will soon be known for a new weapon: THE VOTE!

OUR TIME IS COMING!

Epic
08-25-2009, 06:00 PM
How about we do some kind of campaign to get the 5 non-bailout voters to not do the fundraiser?

Call their offices... email them... do something....

erowe1
08-25-2009, 06:08 PM
10/01/08 Vote on Financial Bailout Bill
(S. Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424)

Alexander (TN) - Yea
Bennett (UT) - Yea
Bond (MO) - Yea
Burr (NC) - Yea
Chambliss (GA) - Yea
Coburn (OK) - Yea
Cochran (MS) - Nay
Collins (ME) - Yea
Cornyn (TX) - Yea
Crapo (ID) - Nay
Enzi (WY) - Nay
Grassley (IA)- Yea
Hatch (UT) - Yea
Johanns (NE) - didn't vote, freshman in 11/08
Isakson (GA) - Yea
Kyl (AZ) - Yea
McConnell (KY) - Yea
Mccain (AZ) - Yea
Murkowski (AK) - Yea
Sessions (AL) - Nay
Thune (SD) - Yea
Vitter (LA) - Nay
Voinovich (OH) - Yea

17 Yea
5 Nay
1 freshman not around 10/08

Don't just limit it to the one bailout. Check others. The AIG one, the auto one, etc. Here's a place to start:
http://www.rlc.org/2009/03/26/17-courageous/

It only gives the HR roll calls, and I think one of those stimulus/bailouts didn't get voted on in the Senate (but IIRC there was a failing motion to bring it to a vote, so you might check how they voted on that). And the first stimulus in that list is just the rebate checks in 2008, which was still a bad idea but doesn't have the same negative baggage among average Republicans that the others do.

At any rate, we'll be able to peg some bad bailout or stimulus vote from 2008-9 on every one of those 23 senators.

Malachi
08-25-2009, 06:09 PM
How about we do some kind of campaign to get the 5 non-bailout voters to not do the fundraiser?

Call their offices... email them... do something....

Contact CFL members near the SEnators.

dr. hfn
08-25-2009, 06:19 PM
Contact CFL members near the SEnators.

Meetups too and any nearby YAL chapter.

erowe1
08-25-2009, 06:19 PM
7/26/08 vote on Foreclosure Prevention Act of 2008
Senate Amendment to H.R. 3221

Alexander (TN) - Yea
Bennett (UT) - Yea
Bond (MO) - Abstain
Burr (NC) - Abstain
Chambliss (GA) - Yea
Coburn (OK) - Nay
Cochran (MS) - Aye
Collins (ME) - Yea
Cornyn (TX) - Nay
Crapo (ID) - Aye
Enzi (WY) - Nay
Grassley (IA)- Nay
Hatch (UT) - Nay
Johanns (NE) - didn't vote, freshman in 11/08
Isakson (GA) - Yea
Kyl (AZ) - Nay
McConnell (KY) - Yea
Mccain (AZ) - Abstain
Murkowski (AK) - Yea
Sessions (AL) - Aye
Thune (SD) - Nay
Vitter (LA) - Nay
Voinovich (OH) - Yea

So of the 5 who voted nay on the October 2008 bailout, 3 nevertheless voted aye on the Foreclosure Prevention Act. Only Enzi and Vitter are off the hook on both votes.

HarryBrowneLives
08-25-2009, 07:25 PM
List of Senators
I transcribed these from a phone call so I may have misspelled the names.

Alexander
Bennett
Bond
Burr
Chambliss
Coburn
Cochran
Collins
Cornyn
Crapo
Enzi
Grassly
Hatch
Johans
Isaacson
Kyle
McConnell
Mccain
Murkowski
Sessions
Thune
Vitter
Voinovich

Lamar Alexander ... that rotten son of a gun. Voted for Sotamyor, opposes S604, bailouts, I wish he'd go ahead and switch parties. He's a Senator from TN ... can't say he's MY Senator even though I live in the state. Have half a mind to run against that turd when the time comes just to expose him if nothing else.

HarryBrowneLives
08-25-2009, 07:34 PM
I would prefer Nov 5. It would be a good angle to (only figuratively) "blow up" the Washington establishment with the Nov 5 Money Bomb. Will give people chance to catch their breath. We should not be knee jerk but crafty. We can do much, much, more with a little more time.

Grayson just did us a HUGE favor:D

Those in our ranks across the country will be all over this now even if they were cool to Rand before. This kind of thing moves butts off couches. It's a magnet from hell.

We need someone to photoshop these Senators together all laughing and smiling in some kind of landscape portrait vs Rand.

Remember, Remeber the 5th of November ... it will have teeth now!

erowe1
08-25-2009, 07:40 PM
We can always save Nov. 5 for Schiff.

The way things are looking here, it looks like a bunch of people already have a mind to donate and encourage others to donate on Sept 23 anyway. So we might as well work with that sentiment rather than stifle it. And, provided it's successful, it will definitely give a nice concrete story for media to keep bringing up that will reinforce the Grayson=RINO inside-the-beltway establishment Republican theme.

erowe1
08-25-2009, 07:41 PM
Lamar Alexander ... that rotten son of a gun. Voted for Sotamyor, opposes S604, bailouts, I wish he'd go ahead and switch parties. He's a Senator from TN ... can't say he's MY Senator even though I live in the state. Have half a mind to run against that turd when the time comes just to expose him if nothing else.

When's he up for reelection? You should try to get a campaign going to draft Jimmy Duncan to run against him.

HarryBrowneLives
08-25-2009, 07:51 PM
I'd vote for a mop bucket against him.:mad:

freedoms-light
08-25-2009, 08:04 PM
That is real good, I feel. I think you have a bit more room here, perhaps add this:

"...sending it to their bosses on Wall Street? The same senators who's top contributors are lawyers and lobbyists! I thought Senators were supposed...."


Thanks, sounds great! Just wanted to say, anything I share here belongs to the group to be used for the freedom movement. Take and improve and use to help Rand.


Are you feeling just a little be-trey-ed by Washington elites taking your hard earned tax money and sending it to their bosses on Wall Street? The same senators who's top contributors are lawyers and lobbyists. I thought Senators were supposed to work for the people - you know - on Main Street. People like me and you. We don't need to send a career politician beholden to the financial elite to Washington. Send one of our own. Send Dr. Rand Paul

skyorbit
08-25-2009, 08:20 PM
How many people do "they" typically get at these fundraisers.

$500 a piece? * how many people?

We should try and shoot for a $2 Million day that day.

Tracy

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 08:50 PM
How many people do "they" typically get at these fundraisers.

$500 a piece? * how many people?

We should try and shoot for a $2 Million day that day.

Tracy

Eh, I think a 300k or 400k day would be plenty to bury this fundraiser dinner.

lx43
08-25-2009, 08:50 PM
I am declaring all the Yea votes for the bailout as Enemy of the People. It is open season on these communist. Feel free to yell at them, run against them, cuss them, and do everything you can to get these hacks out of office.



Alexander (TN) - Yea
Bennett (UT) - Yea
Bond (MO) - Yea
Burr (NC) - Yea
Chambliss (GA) - Yea
Coburn (OK) - Yea
Collins (ME) - Yea
Cornyn (TX) - Yea
Grassley (IA)- Yea
Hatch (UT) - Yea
Isakson (GA) - Yea
Kyl (AZ) - Yea
McConnell (KY) - Yea
Mccain (AZ) - Yea
Murkowski (AK) - Yea
Thune (SD) - Yea
Voinovich (OH) - Yea

freedoms-light
08-25-2009, 08:51 PM
2 Million dollars should cream them. Here are the figures for the NSRC for the entire month of July 2009. I couldn't imagine them even beating our last money bomb, but best not to be complacent. I'm only not sure if the special fundraisers are included in the numbers, though.


The National Republican Senatorial Committee brought in $2.75 million in July, according to a spokesman, while the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee raised $2.04 million in the same time period.

http ://www.rollcall.com/news/37872-1.html

BTW, is it ok to post as links here?

jrice
08-25-2009, 08:52 PM
I am furious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We need to get some videos together - get the date set- rally the troops.

Unreal! Let's use this against them!

JamesButabi
08-25-2009, 08:53 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/JamesButabi/RANDUFC.jpg

lx43
08-25-2009, 08:57 PM
James that UFC photo is awesome. lol

HarryBrowneLives
08-25-2009, 09:01 PM
Heck of start. LOL.

freedoms-light
08-25-2009, 09:07 PM
Rand Paul Revere Vs Treytor Grayson

It's Liberty vs Tyranny..
The future of the Republic hangs in the balance
Its the Washington Elites vs the Sons of Liberty
A classic Wall Street vs Main Street cage match
Lets light the fire of Liberty
Donate at randpaul2010.com
Win a free country

steined
08-25-2009, 09:11 PM
who knows bruce buffer... :P

dr. hfn
08-25-2009, 09:15 PM
any Kentucky folk music?

jrice
08-25-2009, 09:21 PM
Rand Paul Revere Vs Treytor Grayson

It's Liberty vs Tyranny..
The future of the Republic hangs in the balance
Its the Washington Elites vs the Sons of Liberty
A classic Wall Street vs Main Street cage match
Lets light the fire of Liberty
Donate at randpaul2010.com
Win a free country



Love it - VIDEO PLEASE - lets promote a competing BOMB!!!!!!!!!

Austin
08-25-2009, 09:35 PM
Love it - VIDEO PLEASE - lets promote a competing BOMB!!!!!!!!!

Have Michael Maggard sing that. ;)

RonPaulFanInGA
08-25-2009, 10:32 PM
Is there a Trevor site up yet for September 23rd?

No to November 5th. It must be before the Q3 FEC filiing deadline on September 30th.

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 10:34 PM
I registered KentuckyFight.com for September 23rd and should have it up soon.

No1ButPaul08
08-25-2009, 10:37 PM
I registered KentuckyFight.com for September 23rd and should have it up soon.

I think we should do a horse race theme since KY is the Horse Racing capital of the world.

JoshLowry
08-25-2009, 10:40 PM
That's what the theme for RunRandRun.com was.

You're the second to mention it.

I don't mind either way. I just think The People vs The Washington insiders fits the UFC fight scenario better.

TheTyke
08-25-2009, 10:50 PM
That's what the theme for RunRandRun.com was.

You're the second to mention it.

I don't mind either way. I just think The People vs The Washington insiders fits the UFC fight scenario better.

I like it better too. The theme was used already, and the horse industry is dying in KY anyhow.

Besides, the Washington Insiders sounds like a great sports team. :D

HarryBrowneLives
08-25-2009, 10:54 PM
Just thought of something. Septemeber 23rd and 23 GOP Senators involved in that. Maybe we could base it around the number "23" somehow?

Liberty4Ever
08-25-2009, 10:58 PM
Greetings from Lexington, in central Kentucky.

The GOP really stepped in it this time. They're good at weasel stuff and dirty tricks, but they are now completely brain dead and totally out of touch with the voters. I guess they believe the lame media's claims that the TEA parties are angry Republican loyalists. They should listen. The loudest cheers follow the criticism of both parties.

The best thing the GOP could do for Grayson is cancel the NRSC fund raiser and try to pretend it never happened. If we did nothing, this is a MAJOR public relations nightmare for them. Let's do everything we can to make sure people see exactly what's happening. This is a great insight for those just waking up, demonstrating exactly why the parties are the problem.

Operationally, I wouldn't trust the GOP to organize a bake sale.

The next money bomb featuring the GOP's $500 per person fund raiser is a great idea.

It's hard to believe the rate at which Rand's popularity is skyrocketing all across Kentucky. Trey looks like a cold bowl of Cream-of-Wheat, and Rand is a Grand Slam Breakfast with a tall glass of fresh squeezed liberty. The fact that people care so much nine months before the primary is nothing short of amazing, and it's very good news for Rand.

I did the recent grassroots Rand Paul campaign video.
YouTube - Rand Paul 2010 Grassroots Campaign (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGnJzdEOI1Q)

I was already working on a very different grassroots Rand video - very high energy, lots of fun. It should be out in time to give a little support to the next money bomb. I may spin it to fit this weasel GOP fund raising.

I've been working with the local 912 group and many of them are getting on board the liberty train a lot faster than I would have guessed. I made sure they understood that Senator McConnell not only voted for the TARP-1 bailout, but he also used his power as Senate Minority Leader to twist the arms of other Republican senators to pass the bailout, and their opinion of him has drastically changed. Then I made sure they knew that McConnell pushed Senator Bunning out of the party because Bunning went on national TV and called the bailout "socialism". They're already solid Rand supporters. Now I'll make sure they see how the GOP operates, McConnell having a DC fundraiser for his hand picked replacement for Senator Bunning, and sending the message to the Republican Party of Kentucky that, "Trey's our guy".

I've already started a letter to the local paper about the fundraiser. Here's what I have so far:

GOP... oligarchy... pay-for-play fund raiser... DC fatcats... lawyers and lobbyists... to elect another non-representative... McConnell's hand picked lap poodle... scum sucking weasels... Rand Paul will represent US for a change!

I just need to fill in the blanks to pad it up to 200 words.

Reading this thread, I was amused to see how many unflattering versions there were of "Trey Grayson".

There are things the campaign can't say. Thankfully, we are not the campaign. I think before I speak because I want to make sure that I'm helping Rand and not hurting, but it's our job to talk to conservative voters who feel betrayed by RINOs and country club Republicans and make sure they know that Rand is a real alternative, and they need to vote for him in the primary.

The Louisville newspaper wasted no time in playing up the way the GOP is shamelessly promoting one candidate at the expense of the others with complete disregard for the process where We the People select our candidates in the primary elections.

Yeah, the GOP totally screwed the pooch on this deal.

EPIC GOP FAIL.

Bergie Bergeron
08-25-2009, 11:48 PM
Here's a mention. (http://www.senateguru.com/diary/837/midweek-odds-ends)

axiomata
08-26-2009, 12:27 AM
I think we should work with the "Smoked Filled Room (http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/3217.html)" theme -- the Washington vs. The People angle. Skip the Cage Match theme for this one and save it. (What does a UFC cage match have to do with a bunch of establishment Senators having a private fundraiser in the smoke-filled corridors of Washington?)

I think for this one it will be important to try and combine the ole moneybomb with on-the-ground tea party activism.

max
08-26-2009, 05:53 AM
Two HUGE factors at play here combining to make a perfect storm...

1. Trey is a chosen golden boy....having been trained at Kennedy School of Government and recruited by Aspen Institute. Even if he ran against just another ordinary tool, there would be a major insider push behind him...

2. The opponent is the son of Ron Paul (gasp!)

This is the starkest possible contrast....a titanic struggle between good and evil. The GOP will stop at nothing to prevent Rand from winning....including running a
3rd party patsy to split the GOP block should Rand win the primary

With Ron they just gave him the silent treatment....with Rand they cant anymore. Get ready for a dirty nasty war

acptulsa
08-26-2009, 06:08 AM
The last one was a Kentucky Derby theme.

This one really is a fight. See who can raise more money... The Washington Insiders or The People.

Rand 'Kentucky Kid' Paul vs. 'Beltway Trey' Grayson.

jrice
08-26-2009, 06:34 AM
....The GOP will stop at nothing to prevent Rand from winning....including running a
3rd party patsy to split the GOP block should Rand win the primary....


Not sure about that - I think ultimately they want the seat with an (R) given the current balance in the Senate. I think the battle here is in the primary.

MRoCkEd
08-26-2009, 06:36 AM
Bad move, establishment hacks. :cool:

The recurring theme from the Ron Paul campaign carries on with Rand - exclusion followed by counter-event.

acptulsa
08-26-2009, 06:38 AM
Not sure about that - I think ultimately they want the seat with an (R) given the current balance in the Senate. I think the battle here is in the primary.

Steele would probably agree with you. McCain would agree with max.

erowe1
08-26-2009, 06:44 AM
I think we should work with the "Smoked Filled Room (http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/3217.html)" theme -- the Washington vs. The People angle. Skip the Cage Match theme for this one and save it. (What does a UFC cage match have to do with a bunch of establishment Senators having a private fundraiser in the smoke-filled corridors of Washington?)

The fight idea is because this money bomb is unlike others in that it is a head-to-head competition of fund raisers on the same day. The ordinary people vs. the rich and powerful elites theme also works well with this, think Rocky or Cinderella Man.

TonySutton
08-26-2009, 06:53 AM
Two HUGE factors at play here combining to make a perfect storm...

1. Trey is a chosen golden boy....having been trained at Kennedy School of Government and recruited by Aspen Institute. Even he ran against just another ordinary tool, there would be a major insider push behind him...

2. The opponent is the son of Ron Paul (gasp!)

This is the starkest possible contrast....a titanic struggle between good and evil. The GOP will stop at nothing to prevent Rand from winning....including running a
3rd party patsy to split the GOP block should Rand win the primary

With Ron they just gave him the silent treatment....with Rand they cant anymore. Get ready for a dirty nasty war

While reading this post my mind was thinking movie trailer. Someone with video skill should put together a youtube in the form of a movie trailer for this epic battle between good and evil! Coming to a primary near you!

acptulsa
08-26-2009, 06:56 AM
While reading this post my mind was thinking movie trailer. Someone with video skill should put together a youtube in the form of a movie trailer for this epic battle between good and evil! Coming to a primary near you!

YouTube - Mr. Smith Goes to Washington Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKGrAzh8Gyo)

Michigan11
08-26-2009, 06:58 AM
The fight idea is because this money bomb is unlike others in that it is a head-to-head competition of fund raisers on the same day. The ordinary people vs. the rich and powerful elites theme also works well with this, think Rocky or Cinderella Man.

YouTube - Rocky 3 - The Eye of the Tiger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqjbwA8JDW4)

RyanRSheets
08-26-2009, 07:11 AM
I was thinking Star Wars would be a funny way to do it as well, with a scrolling text explanation of what was happening, Rand on a land speeder, Mitch McConnell sitting in the emperor's chair behind Trey Grayson (in a Darth Vader costume), etc.

John McCain would make a good Jabba the Hut.

acptulsa
08-26-2009, 07:32 AM
John McCain would make a good Jabba the Hut.

You almost got me. I had just swallowed my sip of coffee when I loled!

Ethek
08-26-2009, 07:44 AM
I was thinking Star Wars would be a funny way to do it as well, with a scrolling text explanation of what was happening, Rand on a land speeder, Mitch McConnell sitting in the emperor's chair behind Trey Grayson (in a Darth Vader costume), etc.

John McCain would make a good Jabba the Hut.

Great setup, It was cool to meet you at the fair last Saturday. Hoping to get back this week!

itshappening
08-26-2009, 08:01 AM
I think this is a great idea, the people v. the establishment

big mistake from them anyway. Rand should issue a press release and condemn Grayson and the establishment within the state

it also leaves plenty of time for Nov 5th as well!

max
08-26-2009, 08:12 AM
Not sure about that - I think ultimately they want the seat with an (R) given the current balance in the Senate. I think the battle here is in the primary.

i hope you're right...but ultimatly, despite "differences" the R's and the D's all belong to the E's (Establishment)...

When it seemed that Reagan might have been a threat to the Establishment after he won the GOP primaries in 1980....the elites trotted out a tool named John Anderson to run as an "I"...

He took votes away from Reagan...but Reagan still won....and then caved in to the E's after they had him shot

max
08-26-2009, 08:17 AM
the creative juices on these forums rivals that of Hollywood.....I just hope the Rand campaign isnt as "corporate" and bland as Ron's people were.

There is so much ingenuity and talent on these boards going to waste....They should be picking our brains and recruiting people like Aravoth to run the show.

This Rocky-Cinderella theme is a winner....Never underestimate the power of music!!!!!! Aravoth's videos sent chills up the spine....just like the Rocky theme songs (especially Rocky 1)

...I'm praying that we dont see a redo of "He's cathcin on"

TruthisTreason
08-26-2009, 08:23 AM
the creative juices on these forums rivals that of Hollywood.....I just hope the Rand campaign isnt as "corporate" and bland as Ron's people were.

There is so much ingenuity and talent on these boards going to waste....They should be picking our brains and recruiting people like Aravoth to run the show.

This Rocky-Cinderella theme is a winner....Never underestimate the power of music!!!!!! Aravoth's videos sent chills up the spine....just like the Rocky theme songs (especially Rocky 1)

...I'm praying that we dont see a redo of "He's cathcin on"

We will be holding a contest and the winner will get to do a campaign ad.:cool:

max
08-26-2009, 08:32 AM
We will be holding a contest and the winner will get to do a campaign ad.:cool:

Thats what I like to hear...

Listen...I suck with graphics and you tube is too hi-tech for me.

I wonder if for the contest I could just write a script with descriptive text to describe the setting.....

TooConservative
08-26-2009, 08:43 AM
1. Trey is a chosen golden boy....having been trained at Kennedy School of Government and recruited by Aspen Institute. Even if he ran against just another ordinary tool, there would be a major insider push behind him...

I think the emphasis should be on Aspen and the obvious connection to Big-Gooberment McConville and his votes for socialism.

itshappening
08-26-2009, 08:48 AM
We will be holding a contest and the winner will get to do a campaign ad.:cool:

Truth my advice is get some professional ones done for December (TV) introducing Rand and get 4 radio ads for October/November (why i'm running, Rand speaking directly), 8 weeks of radio in the state then tv over the holidays, then more radio and then March/April TV again (different policy type ads). Each ad should mention Rand Paul 3-4 times.

this will cost about a million dollars but I think Rand needs to get his name out there and this strategy gives him near constant paid media from October till polling day

TooConservative
08-26-2009, 08:53 AM
I registered KentuckyFight.com for September 23rd and should have it up soon.

Maybe some local Meetups should go picket the NRSC gathering of neer-do-well GOP hacks.

We should refer to Aspen Institute by its original name: the Aspen Institute for Humanistic Studies. The word 'humanism' scores with the Religious Right.


"The Aspen Institute is largely funded by foundations such as the Carnegie Corporation, The Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Ford Foundation, ... - Wikipedia

Trey should be tied to a known network of 'international humanists' and the liberal foundations via Aspen.

Trey should also be tied to McConville's votes and it should be made clear that he is running as McConville's chosen hack along with the rest of the failed GOP big-gooberment idiots like McStain.

acptulsa
08-26-2009, 08:56 AM
Maybe some local Meetups should go picket the NRSC gathering of neer-do-well GOP hacks.

I've got a sign idea.

SMOKE FILLED ROOM-->

georgiaboy
08-26-2009, 08:58 AM
I love, LOVE the idea alluded to earlier relating to tea-partyers. We must be first to capitalize on these events and channel the enthusiasm into action supporting and voting for worthy candidates.

The idea is that a true tea party/townhaller would only vote for the Rand Pauls of the world, not the Trey Graysons.

This one concept should get legs across campaigns to get people thinking correctly.

Where's that definition of insanity again? Time to make a switch and do something sane.

TruthisTreason
08-26-2009, 08:59 AM
Truth my advice is get some professional ones done for December (TV) introducing Rand

Most people didn't like Ron's "professional" ones.

itshappening
08-26-2009, 09:22 AM
Most people didn't like Ron's "professional" ones.

that's true but you dont have to use his agency. There are agencies that can shoot and create some slick ads. we need some of Rand speaking directly to the camera and generally looking slick, the grassroots can't do that.

max
08-26-2009, 09:37 AM
We should refer to Aspen Institute by its original name: the Aspen Institute for Humanistic Studies. The word 'humanism' scores with the Religious Right.

Trey should be tied to a known network of 'international humanists' and the liberal foundations via Aspen.

.

It sure would make a great mailing piece and TV ad targetting the christians......It would not even have to discuss "humanism"...like u said...just referring to Aspen's original name (no doubt changed in order to avoid controversy)...would scare the crap out of em...

TruthisTreason
08-26-2009, 09:39 AM
that's true but you dont have to use his agency. There are agencies that can shoot and create some slick ads. we need some of Rand speaking directly to the camera and generally looking slick, the grassroots can't do that.

True, but whoever wins the contest can work directly with Rand to make whatever they need.;)

Aratus
08-26-2009, 09:42 AM
jack conway has some media savy political director dude treating him like some soap opera actor... i've actually looked at one of his videos

jrice
08-26-2009, 10:41 AM
Can we hold an official rally-type fundraiser to coinicide on the same day ACTUALLY IN KENTUCKY?!?! I think it would coincide with an online money bomb? We need to capitalize on this!

JoshLowry
08-26-2009, 10:49 AM
Can we hold an official rally-type fundraiser to coinicide on the same day ACTUALLY IN KENTUCKY?!?! I think it would coincide with an online money bomb? We need to capitalize on this!

That'd be a good idea.

Maybe a fundraiser dinner for Kentuckian residents?

Make it $20 dollars a plate instead of $500. :)

TooConservative
08-26-2009, 10:53 AM
It sure would make a great mailing piece and TV ad targetting the christians......It would not even have to discuss "humanism"...like u said...just referring to Aspen's original name (no doubt changed in order to avoid controversy)...would scare the crap out of em...

Wikipedia lists their international outreach with these liberal thinktanks, all under the Aspen label, all around the world.

International humanism and the notorious liberal foundations, it'll hit home with Kentucky's conservative Christians, an 80% white voter base dominated by older voters. Then tie Trey to McConville's big-gooberment votes on TARP, the Porkulous stimulus (and all the waste in it), etc.

Bergie Bergeron
08-26-2009, 10:54 AM
Can we hold an official rally-type fundraiser to coinicide on the same day ACTUALLY IN KENTUCKY?!?! I think it would coincide with an online money bomb? We need to capitalize on this!
Sounds like a great idea. Who's raising money out-of-state now Mr. Zayson?

max
08-26-2009, 10:55 AM
Wikipedia lists their international outreach with these liberal thinktanks, all under the Aspen label, all around the world.

International humanism and the notorious liberal foundations, it'll hit home with Kentucky's conservative Christians, an 80% white voter base dominated by older voters. Then tie Trey to McConville's big-gooberment votes on TARP, the Porkulous stimulus (and all the waste in it), etc.

I sure hope Rand's people are listening to us.....In a GOP primary, this ASPEN thing can be HUGE if they decide to use it..

trey is so damn proud of his affiliation that he boasts about it on his own website (someone should take a snapshot before he yanks it)

RyanRSheets
08-26-2009, 11:07 AM
Pretty sure Trey is stopping by my office to announce his campaign. Apparently DHS is downstairs patting down anyone who enters the building because someone special is coming up. It just so happens that a lot of the attorneys here are big donors to Trey's campaign.

erowe1
08-26-2009, 11:13 AM
That'd be a good idea.

Maybe a fundraiser dinner for Kentuckian residents?

Make it $20 dollars a plate instead of $500. :)

Make it a two-part event.

Part 1) In the afternoon, host a massive tea party open to all comers, just a giant anti-stimulus, anti-UHC, anti-tax rally like all the other tea parties, only huge, like Woodstock. Time is tight, so it may be hard to schedule good speakers. But it would obviously include Rand, maybe Ron Paul, maybe we could bring in other nearby sympathetic pseudo-VIP's like former congressman John Hostettler, who lives right outside Kentucky in Evansville, IN, and Jimmy Duncan from Tennesee.

Part 2) In the evening have a fund raiser dinner with the same speakers there. I think $20/plate is a bit on the cheap side. But maybe it could have a staggered pricing, where people sitting at tables with any of the VIP-ish people have to pay maybe $200/plate for it, and everybody else maybe $50/plate.

RyanRSheets
08-26-2009, 11:27 AM
As I was saying earlier, this is national newsworthy. Huckabee and others came out against it last time it happened (with Crist, I still haven't figured out how much they raised for him). We should be able to get big names like his to come out against it this time, maybe even to the extent of showing up for a huge event.

specsaregood
08-26-2009, 11:34 AM
As I was saying earlier, this is national newsworthy. Huckabee and others came out against it last time it happened (with Crist, I still haven't figured out how much they raised for him). We should be able to get big names like his to come out against it this time, maybe even to the extent of showing up for a huge event.

Contact huck:
That's my view, I welcome yours. E-mail your comments to: huckmail@foxnews.com
Go to mikehuckabee.com and click on to FOX News feedback let me know your thoughts about this week's show.

RyanRSheets
08-26-2009, 11:47 AM
I'm going to send him to following if people want to just copy/paste the same. I think at the very least he would be willing to mention it, and I think he has the clout to maybe get some other people to mention it. Seeing it happen again might be enough for him to make a bigger deal out of it!


Dear Mike Huckabee,

As you may or may not have heard, Rand Paul, the son of Ron Paul, is running for U.S. Senate in Kentucky. Rand has done very well so far, polling just 11% behind the big name, former Democrat, Trey Grayson and as of August 20th he has even raised more than Trey. It seems like the people like Rand quite a bit, and I think it's because they trust him!

Yesterday I found out that the 23 Senators would be hosting a fundraiser for Trey Grayson's Senate campaign. I recall you coming out against the NRSC when they did this same thing for Crist, so I figured maybe you be willing to help here. I think you would agree that this is pretty shady and unethical. They should not be trying to use their position to interfere with the Republican primary. We need to expose this for what it really is: big wig Republicans like John McCain and Mitch McConnell trying to strong-arm their preferred candidate past the primary! We'd really appreciate it if you could mention this on your program and ask your colleagues to do the same.

skyorbit
08-26-2009, 11:50 AM
That'd be a good idea.

Maybe a fundraiser dinner for Kentuckian residents?

Make it $20 dollars a plate instead of $500. :)

Thirded this motion.

JamesButabi
08-26-2009, 12:02 PM
Thirded this motion.

holy crap what an idea.

1) A local dinner for Kentucky supporters or prospective voters on the same day as a GOP senator banquet that costs only a little compared to $500. (Kentucky theme, mentions of the politician scheme during the banquet).

2) A coincided mini-bomb to boost Rands numbers and garner more media attention to the differences in canididates.

TruthisTreason
08-26-2009, 12:07 PM
holy crap what an idea.

1) A local dinner for Kentucky supporters or prospective voters on the same day as a GOP senator banquet that costs only a little compared to $500. (Kentucky theme, mentions of the politician scheme during the banquet).

2) A coincided mini-bomb to boost Rands numbers and garner more media attention to the differences in canididates.

I could probably organize a dinner.... be tough to turn it into a major fundraiser in just one month...

RyanRSheets
08-26-2009, 12:09 PM
Modified a little to send to Glenn Beck and his show manager, Stu. They would probably willing to help as well. Also it would be good to contact Hannity, Limbaugh (be sure to mention Aspen!) and the other guys.

For this one, send to:

me@glennbeck.com
stu@glennbeck.com


Dear Glenn and Stu,

Recently you had Rand Paul on your show to discuss health care and his Senate campaign. We appreciated that very much, and we're very thankful for your words of approval! Rand has done very well so far, polling just 11% behind the big name, former Democrat, Trey Grayson. As of August 20th he has even raised more than Trey. It seems the people like Rand quite a bit, and I think it's because they trust him! That said, if you could fit in a mention of it, or even get Rand on your show, there's something we really need your help on.

Yesterday, I found out that 23 Republican Senators (most voted for TARP) would be hosting a fundraiser for Trey Grayson's Senate campaign at the NRSC headquarters. They did this same thing recently with Governor Crist of Florida and in doing so they really spit in the face of a good Conservative by the name of Marco Rubio. I think you would agree that it is pretty shady and unethical of them to use their positions to try and interfere with a Republican primary. We need to expose this for what it really is: big wig Republicans like John McCain and Mitch McConnell trying to strong-arm their preferred candidate past the primary! We'd really appreciate it if you could mention this on your program and ask your colleagues to do the same.

amy31416
08-26-2009, 12:11 PM
I could probably organize a dinner.... be tough to turn it into a major fundraiser in just one month...

How about a whole bunch of them all across the state? That way they wouldn't have to be some huge event, but something that people could hold at picnic grounds, their own land, state parks--things like that?

Obviously Rand wouldn't be able to show up at all of them, but I thought I'd just throw that out there.

georgiaboy
08-26-2009, 12:13 PM
How about a whole bunch of them all across the state? That way they wouldn't have to be some huge event, but something that people could hold at picnic grounds, their own land, state parks--things like that?

Obviously Rand wouldn't be able to show up at all of them, but I thought I'd just throw that out there.

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe use Meetups to help organize.

acptulsa
08-26-2009, 12:17 PM
Obviously Rand wouldn't be able to show up at all of them, but I thought I'd just throw that out there.

Ah, but he could--through the miracle of videoconferencing (is that a word?).

amy31416
08-26-2009, 12:19 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe use Meetups to help organize.

Good idea!

Here's some (rather interesting) recipes that are supposedly very Kentucky-centric. :)

Oops, forgot link: http://www.mountain-breeze.com/kitchen/kentucky/index.html

amy31416
08-26-2009, 12:20 PM
Ah, but he could--through the miracle of videoconferencing (is that a word?).

Yep, that's a word. And I think that could work.

More people could show up because it wouldn't necessarily be a long drive. It wouldn't be so outrageously priced that regular people couldn't afford it, like those DC elitists.

I like it.

RyanRSheets
08-26-2009, 12:22 PM
Ah, but he could--through the miracle of videoconferencing (is that a word?).

That would be a pretty excellent way of handling it. I'm just thinking about that ginormous table for like 100 people upstairs in my building. :P

JamesButabi
08-26-2009, 12:31 PM
Whatever is done absolutely needs to be done on the same day. Too good of an opportunity to show the public whos interests are really at stake.

TruthisTreason
08-26-2009, 12:38 PM
How about a whole bunch of them all across the state? That way they wouldn't have to be some huge event, but something that people could hold at picnic grounds, their own land, state parks--things like that?

Obviously Rand wouldn't be able to show up at all of them, but I thought I'd just throw that out there.

Honestly, I don't see the need to respond to Facin's moves.. I prefer to stay on course, but I'm not against a dinner or fundraiser of some sorts.. However, trying to coordinate some state wide thing seems like a waste of resources if you ask me. I'm sure Ghay Trayson's camp has had their hands full trying to get people out to airport hangers all across the state.

We need to keep our eye on the prize.

MRoCkEd
08-26-2009, 12:40 PM
Whatever is done absolutely needs to be done on the same day. Too good of an opportunity to show the public whos interests are really at stake.
Yeah.
To reiterate what several have suggested, we need a big online moneybomb coupled with big fundraiser(s) in Kentucky.

acptulsa
08-26-2009, 12:43 PM
Honestly, I don't see the need to respond to Facin's moves.. I prefer to stay on course, but I'm not against a dinner or fundraiser of some sorts.. However, trying to coordinate some state wide thing seems like a waste of resources if you ask me. I'm sure Ghay Trayson's camp has had their hands full trying to get people out to airport hangers all across the state.

We need to keep our eye on the prize.

Well, I personally think there's value in consciously emphasizing the difference between 'Beltway Trey' and our man of the people. As in, he gets his money $2300 at a time from the top five percent, and will represent them, while Rand gets his pennies from the bottom 95%, and will represent us.

specsaregood
08-26-2009, 12:45 PM
Honestly, I don't see the need to respond to Facin's moves.. I prefer to stay on course, but I'm not against a dinner or fundraiser of some sorts.. However, trying to coordinate some state wide thing seems like a waste of resources if you ask me. I'm sure Ghay Trayson's camp has had their hands full trying to get people out to airport hangers all across the state.

We need to keep our eye on the prize.

I'd just say, we aren't responding to his moves; but rather using his moves for publicity against him.

amy31416
08-26-2009, 12:45 PM
Honestly, I don't see the need to respond to Facin's moves.. I prefer to stay on course, but I'm not against a dinner or fundraiser of some sorts.. However, trying to coordinate some state wide thing seems like a waste of resources if you ask me. I'm sure Ghay Trayson's camp has had their hands full trying to get people out to airport hangers all across the state.

We need to keep our eye on the prize.

Isn't the prize getting him enough money and support to win the primary? If we do nothing, his stint with his DC buddies could possibly put Paul far enough behind that he can't recover.

At least that's how I see it.

Oh, and I also consider it to be a shot across the bow for the beltway politicians.

erowe1
08-26-2009, 12:47 PM
Yeah.
To reiterate what several have suggested, we need a big online moneybomb coupled with big fundraiser(s) in Kentucky.

One crucial detail about that second suggestion is that it would have to be something planned by the official campaign. A money bomb requires nothing from them and everything from us. A live fundraiser is the exact opposite. The truth is, if they do plan a live fundraiser for that day, then all our what ifs and suggestions for it are pretty much moot (it's like all the silly suggestions years ahead of a presidential race about who candidate X's running mate should be). And it's not a given that they'll be able to pull off anything like what people here are envisioning anyway. For that aspect of Sept. 23rd, the ball is completely in their court.

tajitj
08-26-2009, 12:49 PM
I am still holding out hope Bunning might endorse Rand. He and McConnel dont seem to get along. That would be huge for us.

RyanRSheets
08-26-2009, 01:07 PM
Honestly, I don't see the need to respond to Facin's moves.. I prefer to stay on course, but I'm not against a dinner or fundraiser of some sorts.. However, trying to coordinate some state wide thing seems like a waste of resources if you ask me. I'm sure Ghay Trayson's camp has had their hands full trying to get people out to airport hangers all across the state.

We need to keep our eye on the prize.

A statewide event might be a waste because it would cost a lot of money, but I think we'd be crazy to ignore this. It's got huge marketing potential and it will anger a lot of people. It would be perfect if Rand could mention this at the tea party and say something about a counter event on the 23rd of September. I'm sure we'd get a big turnout from that crowd, so the question is where could we host it? I'm sure it would also make an excellent talking point or flier for the remaining days of the State Fair. Just saying, if there was any possibility of it happening, the night of September 23rd somewhere in Louisville sounds like a good place for it to happen.

dr. hfn
08-26-2009, 01:08 PM
I am still holding out hope Bunning might endorse Rand. He and McConnel dont seem to get along. That would be huge for us.

McConnel has basically endorsed Treytor Grayson so why hell hasn't Bunning endorsed Rand?! I'm starting to think he doesn't have the cajones to back Rand.

Cowlesy
08-26-2009, 01:16 PM
McConnel has basically endorsed Treytor Grayson so why hell hasn't Bunning endorsed Rand?! I'm starting to think he doesn't have the cajones to back Rand.

I don't think Senator Bunning cares much for Rand Paul, but I definitely think he hates Senator McConnell. I have a feeling he's just going to stay out of it.

itshappening
08-26-2009, 01:22 PM
Honestly, I don't see the need to respond to Facin's moves.. I prefer to stay on course, but I'm not against a dinner or fundraiser of some sorts.. However, trying to coordinate some state wide thing seems like a waste of resources if you ask me. I'm sure Ghay Trayson's camp has had their hands full trying to get people out to airport hangers all across the state.

We need to keep our eye on the prize.

How about Ron Paul hosts one for Rand in Washington DC on 23rd? :)

MRoCkEd
08-26-2009, 01:23 PM
How about Ron Paul hosts one for Rand in Washington DC on 23rd? :)
ummm noooo lol

erowe1
08-26-2009, 01:34 PM
I don't think Senator Bunning cares much for Rand Paul, but I definitely think he hates Senator McConnell. I have a feeling he's just going to stay out of it.

Bunning hates McConnell. He also hates the Federal Reserve.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24181.html

I'm not saying we should expect anything from him (we shouldn't). But if the enemy of your enemy is your friend (which isn't always true), then it's not outside the realm of possibility, especially if Rand's campaign really takes off and makes this primary a close race (as we all know it will) to the point that Bunning faces questions about it by reporters everywhere he goes.

TruthisTreason
08-26-2009, 01:36 PM
Isn't the prize getting him enough money and support to win the primary? If we do nothing, his stint with his DC buddies could possibly put Paul far enough behind that he can't recover.

At least that's how I see it.

Oh, and I also consider it to be a shot across the bow for the beltway politicians.

In case you missed this part of my post: :o


but I'm not against a dinner or fundraiser of some sorts.. However, trying to coordinate some state wide thing seems like a waste of resources if you ask me.

libertygrl
08-26-2009, 02:13 PM
My two cents as a life long Kentucky resident. You may alientate some people with the UK fight song (believe it or not, Louisville fans exist hahaha).

Another song that is very near to Kentuckian's hearts is "My Old Kentucky Home" which is our state song. There may be some way to twist the lyrics against Trey Mason and very much in support of Rand Paul. The jist of the song is that once you are away from Kentucky, you long to come back. My thinking for using the lyrics could somehow portray Trey Mason's eyes on Washington with Rand Paul thinking about Kentucky while in DC. Again, just my two cents.

Here are the lyrics:

The sun shines bright in the old Kentucky home,
'Tis summer, the people are gay;
The corn-top's ripe and the meadow's in the bloom,
While the birds make music all the day.

The young folks roll on the little cabin floor,
All merry, all happy and bright;
By 'n' by Hard Times comes a-knocking at the door,
Then my old Kentucky home, goodnight.

Chorus:
Weep no more my lady
Oh! weep no more today!
We will sing one song for the old Kentucky home,
For the Old Kentucky Home far away.

YouTube - My old Kentucky home. ケンタッ*ーの我が家 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2frKxOaMCRE)

Just my two cents but since we have to appeal to all voters, I suggest something a little more upbeat. I just went to iTunes and did a search on Kentucky. There were several songs including various versions of My Old Kentucky Home. Check out the version done by 70's rock band Three Dog Night. It's the same lyrics which will still carry the emotional impact however, it's a bit more upbeat. The original version, while pretty, reminds me more of a lullabye. Remember, we want to wake people up to Rand and at the same time give a sense of Rand's energy & vitality, and a renewed sense of hope.

At the same time, I came upon another song by the same band that was featured on an episode of the tv series Lost called "Shambala." I think the title/lyrics have more to do with a sort of utopian world we all wish we could live in but I was mainly captured by the spirit of the song's music more than anything else. I think it could appeal to all generations. It just seems so upbeat, folksy and positive and hopeful all at the same time. Plus it's from a band from Rand Paul's era so maybe he'd be into it himself!

georgiaboy
08-26-2009, 02:28 PM
luv me my 3DN

erowe1
08-26-2009, 02:41 PM
For music, I suggest Aaron Copland's Fanfare for the Common Man. It fits exactly the theme we're going for. It's inspiring. And it has general appeal.
YouTube - Fanfare For the Common Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzf0rvQa4Mc)

TheConstitutionLives
08-26-2009, 05:19 PM
List of Senators
I transcribed these from a phone call so I may have misspelled the names.

Alexander
Bennett
Bond
Burr
Chambliss
Coburn
Cochran
Collins
Cornyn
Crapo
Enzi
Grassly
Hatch
Johans
Isaacson
Kyle
McConnell
Mccain
Murkowski
Sessions
Thune
Vitter
Voinovich

"COCHRAN" is one of my Senators. Fuker!

Bergie Bergeron
08-26-2009, 05:34 PM
Give him hell.

Lord Xar
08-26-2009, 06:10 PM
I am suprised Sessions is on there. He always struck me as a upstanding person.

I am gonna imagine here that many of these senators don't know much about Rand Paul etc.. and are just having a fundraiser for GOP buddy. I suggest we notify these people that they are going against the wrong man.

TheTyke
08-26-2009, 09:21 PM
I am suprised Sessions is on there. He always struck me as a upstanding person.

I am gonna imagine here that many of these senators don't know much about Rand Paul etc.. and are just having a fundraiser for GOP buddy. I suggest we notify these people that they are going against the wrong man.

That's very insightful. We should definitely inform these people!

acptulsa
08-27-2009, 07:36 AM
I am suprised Sessions is on there. He always struck me as a upstanding person.

I am gonna imagine here that many of these senators don't know much about Rand Paul etc.. and are just having a fundraiser for GOP buddy. I suggest we notify these people that they are going against the wrong man.

More to the point, we need to remind them that since the primary system was invented, they don't pick the new members of their little club. We do. And as soon as they forget that, they're risking being traitors to the republic.

Matt Collins
08-27-2009, 10:19 PM
I'm wondering if Bill Clinton will show up to support Trey Grayson. After all President Clinton owes Trey Grayson a favor for his support back in the 90's.


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/Rand%20Paul%202010/ClintonandTreyGrayson.png

Matt Collins
08-27-2009, 10:24 PM
Are you feeling just a little be-trey-ed Brilliant!!!!:D

Aratus
08-28-2009, 09:09 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-paul-tsongas-1284239.html thinking of the 1992 run!
matt collins, if the above image is not a photoshoppie jobbie one like some of the john kerry
and jane fonda ones are... we at least can see that trey grayson was NOT a paul tsongas delegate...

acptulsa
08-28-2009, 09:11 AM
I'm wondering if Bill Clinton will show up to support Trey Grayson. After all President Clinton owes Trey Grayson a favor for his support back in the 90's.

Lol. I suppose it depends on whether he owes Grayson a good favor or a bad favor. ;)

erowe1
08-28-2009, 09:41 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-paul-tsongas-1284239.html thinking of the 1992 run!
matt collins, if the above image is not a photoshoppie jobbie one like some of the john kerry
and jane fonda ones are... we at least can see that trey grayson was NOT a paul tsongas delegate...

He was not a delegate for Clinton or anyone else in 1992. He was a 20-year-old Clinton volunteer that year, which is bad enough, and well worth repeating, but not a delegate.

specsaregood
08-28-2009, 09:44 AM
He was not a delegate for Clinton or anyone else in 1992. He was a 20-year-old Clinton volunteer that year, which is bad enough, and well worth repeating, but not a delegate.

That may be true or it might not. It wouldn't hurt to ask him about it publicly in front of lots of cameras if one ever got the chance. ;)

erowe1
08-28-2009, 09:58 AM
That may be true or it might not. It wouldn't hurt to ask him about it publicly in front of lots of cameras if one ever got the chance. ;)

He's already admitted publicly to having supported and volunteered for Clinton, and I believe he has publicly denied being a Clinton delegate.

Aratus
08-28-2009, 10:02 AM
i would have forgiven him had he been a paul tsongas man, for our late senator
who dies in 1997 was very idealistic in the 'adlai loosing badlai' tradition democrats
here do have... sen. tsongas was NEVER on the take or given to being questionable
in his actions at all. trey grayson was not a tsongas person... that year!!! okaaay we all
see a "fudge factor" from something other than a betty crocker cookbook being quite trey???

acptulsa
08-28-2009, 10:03 AM
'adlai losing badlai'

Lolol! You learn a little history every day... :)

Aratus
08-28-2009, 10:07 AM
i had initially had "IKE era wit" as this humble posting....




--------------yes...i am capable of IKE era wit!
--------------adlai stevenson ran less successfully
--------------in 1956 than he loftily did in 1952...




erowe1 ---- i'm doing an explanatory rambling edit after thinking over
your posting above this one, and your posting after this one...
i know we all know that in 1992 we voters had to decide between
George H.W Bush, Ross Perot and Bill Clinton. i voted for Perot.
i also had a profound respect for Paul Tsongas as a person.
any idealism in that direction from a much younger Trey Grayson
would have me feeling kinda guilty for the 'tradecoat flac' he's
gonna get. if he's more 'bill clinton' or 'mitt romney' centrist, is he
really what KENTUCKY needs right now? someone wants the race to go
into a JFK verses AuH2O mode, as we AVOID any oppertunistic centrists...




Trey Grayson has a more than ambiguous connection to perhaps the end phase of Bill Clinton's presidential run in 1992...
in 1980, in terms of the FLAT TAX idea and much more later on, in 1980 i briefly did some campaign work for JERRY BROWN...
when JERRY BROWN took on JIMMY CARTER & TEDDY KENNEDY, i tried to pass out leaflets at the QUINCY MARKET area... i have
a wonderous campaign anecdote about WHO in my 20something fervor i tried to hand leaflets to... its amusing... and it shows
how idealistic and optimistic i was! a very nice lady who i have a profound respect for politely declined my offer of a leaflet...

erowe1
08-28-2009, 10:14 AM
i would have forgiven him had he been a paul tsongas man, for our late senator
who dies in 1997 was very idealistic in the 'adlai loosing badlai' tradition democrats
here do have... sen. tsongas was NEVER on the take or given to being questionable
in his actions at all. trey grayson was not a tsongas person... that year!!! okaaay we all
see a "fudge factor" from something other than a betty crocker cookbook being quite trey???

I'm not sure you can say that. We don't know if Trey would have supported Tsongas or not. Presumably he would have. Tsongas was only in the primaries, not the general election, and dropped out prior to Kentucky's primary. All we know is that Trey supported Clinton over Bush in the general election.

Cowlesy
08-28-2009, 10:17 AM
I'm wondering if Bill Clinton will show up to support Trey Grayson. After all President Clinton owes Trey Grayson a favor for his support back in the 90's.


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x93/sonicspikesalbum/Rand%20Paul%202010/ClintonandTreyGrayson.png

Is that the photoshop Krippy was using? That's hysterical haha

JoshLowry
08-28-2009, 10:26 AM
Is that the photoshop Krippy was using? That's hysterical haha

Yea, it's very well done. It's also very bad at the same time. ;)

Aratus
08-29-2009, 09:52 AM
erowe1 ---- i'm doing an explanatory rambling edit after thinking over
your posting above this one, and your posting after this one...
i know we all know that in 1992 we voters had to decide between
George H.W Bush, Ross Perot and Bill Clinton. i voted for Perot.
i also had a profound respect for Paul Tsongas as a person.
any idealism in that direction from a much younger Trey Grayson
would have me feeling kinda guilty for the 'tradecoat flac' he's
gonna get. if he's more 'bill clinton' or 'mitt romney' centrist, is he
really what KENTUCKY needs right now? someone wants the race to go
into a JFK verses AuH2O mode, as we AVOID any opportunistic centrists...


them there new deal liberals verses all those flipflopping centrists!!!
GOTO the previous page, namely PAGE 22 --- seriously, i once tried to hand
a JERRY BROWN flier to Joan Bennett Kennedy... in 1980 ...about the time
of the N.H & MASS primaries. seriously i either had a zeal or a myopia
or a fervor or a semi-lousy memory. she politely declined me... that day!!!
i know how to seperate centrists and moderates out from liberal activists...

Cowlesy
09-23-2009, 08:17 PM
Time for a new project! Huge opportunity here.

Framed the right way, we can make this a slam dunk.

Something like Washington VS The People - The National Battle For Kentucky!

The cut of your jib, and the expanding of the idea through the nation has raised over $170,000 tonight for the Paul Campaign, at a de minimis cost.

No surf'n turf. No canapes and mini-quiches and Stella Artois beers.

TROJAN effort Josh --- thanks to you and all the people who spread the message.

FOR FREEDOM!!!

Dionysus
09-23-2009, 08:18 PM
Way to go Josh. That's how things get done. You can't know in advance whether anything will be successful, so you just DO IT.

JamesButabi
09-23-2009, 08:20 PM
I approve of this message. :)

JoshLowry
09-23-2009, 08:20 PM
Woot, just a spoke in the wheel. erowe1 gets props for being the first to say it.

Couldn't do it without everyone else and their generous donations to further the message of liberty.

Go grassroots!

Thanks.

:)

Cowlesy
09-23-2009, 08:20 PM
I registered KentuckyFight.com for September 23rd and should have it up soon.

Making the Bush Rangers look like kindergardeners...

Michigan11
09-23-2009, 08:21 PM
Way to go Josh. That's how things get done. You can't know in advance whether anything will be successful, so you just DO IT.

+1