Military now censoring LRC

[BillyDkid]

New on Lew Rockwell's blog. An Army (I think) Sargent just notified Lew. Apparently the military is now censoring Lew Rockwell from the troops. Amerika, the hope for the world!

[Todd]

If I have to deploy, I will be pissed.

[BillyDkid]

If I have to deploy, I will be pissed.I truly hope you don't. The last thing we need are more patriots (or Americans in general) put in harms way. You know, I have to wonder when was the last time an American soldier died or was killed in a cause that was actually just or really involved protecting the country or promoting freedom.

[TruthisTreason]

They were doing it along time ago, this is nothing new.

[Kludge]

To put this in context, what other kinds of websites does the military block overseas?

[BillyDkid]

They were doing it along time ago, this is nothing new.Well, apparently this soldier could access it until just today, so something has changed.

[Long_Lamkin]

If I have to deploy, I will be pissed.

Seconded.

[LibertyEagle]

Anyone know what reason they gave?

[pcosmar]

Anyone know what reason they gave?

"they" need a reason?
:confused:

[tron paul]

Thanks censors! You just put LRC on many people's 'worth checking out' list.

The ones that already like it will just use the local wireless.

[libertarian4321]

New on Lew Rockwell's blog. An Army (I think) Sargent just notified Lew. Apparently the military is now censoring Lew Rockwell from the troops. Amerika, the hope for the world!

What are you talking about? What is the context?

Soldiers can access anything they please on their own time on their own computers using their own accounts.

However, if they are on base using a military computer/connection, there are many sites that are blocked- everything from porn to political sites to ebay (the idea is, you aren't supposed to be using government computers for screwing off).

[Pod]

What are you talking about? What is the context?

Soldiers can access anything they please on their own time on their own computers using their own accounts.

However, if they are on base using a military computer/connection, there are many sites that are blocked- everything from porn to political sites to ebay (the idea is, you aren't supposed to be using government computers for screwing off).

Bollocks. There is rec time on base. If you are holed up in an Iraq base for nine months you aren`t actually on the clock for 9 months 24/7. You do get time to call your family, play Xbox and table tennis.

[libertarian4321]

Bollocks. There is rec time on base. If you are holed up in an Iraq base for nine months you aren`t actually on the clock for 9 months 24/7. You do get time to call your family, play Xbox and table tennis.

No "bollocks" involved. Everything I said in my previous post was correct.

I asked the OP to give me the details, because he just said it was some "Sargent" and gave no details as to whether the guy was in Iraq or Idaho, on base or off.

Again, if the guy is using his own computer and is paying for his own service, I guarantee he isn't being blocked.

If the guy is on a base in Iraq, he is using a government computer and a government connection and can NOT access any site he damned well pleases, even if off duty- there are thousands of sites you can't access for a variety of reasons. PFC Snuffy doesn't get to make the call on what sites are allowed, that is decided by the officers in charge.

I'd like to know the specifics before I rant and start screaming about persecution.

Just out of curiosity, Mr. Bollocks, how many years did you serve in the military?

[Pod]

No "bollocks" involved. Everything I said in my previous post was correct.

I asked the OP to give me the details, because he just said it was some "Sargent" and gave no details as to whether the guy was in Iraq or Idaho, on base or off.

Again, if the guy is using his own computer and is paying for his own service, I guarantee he isn't being blocked.

If the guy is on a base in Iraq, he is using a government computer and a government connection and can NOT access any site he damned well pleases, even if off duty- there are thousands of sites you can't access for a variety of reasons. PFC Snuffy doesn't get to make the call on what sites are allowed, that is decided by the officers in charge.

I'd like to know the specifics before I rant and start screaming about persecution.

Wrong. Everything you said is not true. The idea of censorship is not that "you aren't supposed to be using government computers for screwing off". This is obvious enough. The military actually allocates you time for screwing off. They ship fucking table tennis equipment to Iraq. There is no difference between screwing off by playing table tennis and screwing off by reading LRC. The actuall idea is to control the flow of information.

Just out of curiousity when are you going to play the spokesman for the military mr. hardass?


Just out of curiosity, Mr. Bollocks, how many years did you serve in the military?

I`ll be dammned if I`ll ever be dragged to a place where you shit on command. I`m a man and won`t be trained like a dog.

[libertarian4321]

Wrong. Everything you said is not true. The idea of censorship is not that "you aren't supposed to be using government computers for screwing off". This is obvious enough. The military actually allocates you time for screwing off. They ship fucking table tennis equipment to Iraq. There is no difference between screwing off by playing table tennis and screwing off by reading LRC. The actuall idea is to control the flow of information.


First off, as I have stated twice already, we need to know the context of the alleged ban.

IF this "Sargent" [sic] was in Iraq, then he was probably using a government computer and was surely using a military network. The military blocks thousands of sites from their network for a large variety of reasons. Just because a soldier can play table tennis does not give him the right to surf porn or do whatever the Hell he likes on a military computer network.

Here's a little hint: When you are deployed as a soldier in a combat zone overseas, you do not to do whatever you want on your "free time" like some civilian can do in the USA. Soldiers have MANY restrictions on where they can go, what they can do, even what they can say.

That doesn't mean there is some sort of nefarious persecution going on.


Just out of curiousity when are you going to play the spokesman for the military mr. hardass?

Huh?


I`ll be dammned if I`ll ever be dragged to a place where you shit on command. I`m a man and won`t be trained like a dog.

In other words, you are talking out your ass and don't have any idea what you are talking about when it comes to the military. Exactly what I suspected.

Nothing wrong with being some slacker jerk off playing around on the computer in Bumscrew, KS (or wherever the Hell you live), but you don't know a thing about the military, so stop pretending you do.

[TinCanToNA]

First off, as I have stated twice already, we need to know the context of the alleged ban.

IF this "Sargent" [sic] was in Iraq, then he was probably using a government computer and was surely using a military network. The military blocks thousands of sites from their network for a large variety of reasons. Just because a soldier can play table tennis does not give him the right to surf porn or do whatever the Hell he likes on a military computer network.

Here's a little hint: When you are deployed as a soldier in a combat zone overseas, you do not to do whatever you want on your "free time" like some civilian can do in the USA. Soldiers have MANY restrictions on where they can go, what they can do, even what they can say.

That doesn't mean there is some sort of nefarious persecution going on.



Huh?



In other words, you are talking out your ass and don't have any idea what you are talking about when it comes to the military. Exactly what I suspected.

Nothing wrong with being some slacker jerk off playing around on the computer in Bumscrew, KS (or wherever the Hell you live), but you don't know a thing about the military, so stop pretending you do.

Exactly. This is going to be overblown, as illustrated in this thread, to be "the man" controlling the flow of information, trying to create mindless sheep, etc. etc.

Bandwidth is especially limited overseas, and controlled computers are controlled computers. There are so many sites that have been blocked; sometimes that's a major pain, but usually it's justified. If you're posting your ship's location on Facebook, for instance, you're all jacked up. The military has herding cats down to a science, more or less. More like an experimental science.

[Peace&Freedom]

And if the military moves on to restrict soldiers from accessing Ron Paul's columns from whatever site, will the above posters still be saying 'this is all overblown?' The point is, there is no good reason for the military censoring the leading libertarian site on the web, other than controlling free speech, and creating sheep. These concerns are not 'overblown' in the slightest.

I personally suspect several of Lawrence Vance's columns (where he argues that Christians reconsider being in or joining the armed forces), among other examples were perceived as having the potential of waking up too many soldiers. Can't have the lads fundamentally question the need to kill, bomb and colonize the brown peoples of the world upon command, now can they?

[dr. hfn]

It's easy to get around probably. There are sites that let you bypass firewalls and such, i don't remember what any of them are called though...

[UnReconstructed]

wth is a bollock?

the military blocks sites that "they" figure "soldiers" will waste time on.

[Pod]

And if the military moves on to restrict soldiers from accessing Ron Paul's columns from whatever site, will the above posters still be saying 'this is all overblown?' The point is, there is no good reason for the military censoring the leading libertarian site on the web, other than controlling free speech, and creating sheep. These concerns are not 'overblown' in the slightest.

I personally suspect several of Lawrence Vance's columns (where he argues that Christians reconsider being in or joining the armed forces), among other examples were perceived as having the potential of waking up too many soldiers. Can't have the lads fundamentally question the need to kill, bomb and colonize the brown peoples of the world upon command, now can they?

Exactly. Can`t have the LRC interfearing with the indoctrination the soldiers are given. The military wants its killers.

But apparently it`s an idea too complex to grasp for a few who have been given the said indoctrination. :rolleyes:

[Pod]

In other words, you are talking out your ass and don't have any idea what you are talking about when it comes to the military. Exactly what I suspected.

Nothing wrong with being some slacker jerk off playing around on the computer in Bumscrew, KS (or wherever the Hell you live), but you don't know a thing about the military, so stop pretending you do.

Not having been in the military does not make me a slacker. Nice try. If anything it is the opposite. Military is a burocratic and non-productive job. Nothing wrong with being proud of having been a uniformed tax-eater, but it is a little lame to pretend it is a necessary requirement to know about militaries.

[BillyDkid]

First off, as I have stated twice already, we need to know the context of the alleged ban.

IF this "Sargent" [sic] was in Iraq, then he was probably using a government computer and was surely using a military network. The military blocks thousands of sites from their network for a large variety of reasons. Just because a soldier can play table tennis does not give him the right to surf porn or do whatever the Hell he likes on a military computer network.

Here's a little hint: When you are deployed as a soldier in a combat zone overseas, you do not to do whatever you want on your "free time" like some civilian can do in the USA. Soldiers have MANY restrictions on where they can go, what they can do, even what they can say.

That doesn't mean there is some sort of nefarious persecution going on.



Huh?



In other words, you are talking out your ass and don't have any idea what you are talking about when it comes to the military. Exactly what I suspected.

Nothing wrong with being some slacker jerk off playing around on the computer in Bumscrew, KS (or wherever the Hell you live), but you don't know a thing about the military, so stop pretending you do.Yeah, I spelled Sargeant wrong. How will I ever live with myself! I referenced Lew Rockwell. I mentioned that I read this on Lew Rockwell's blog. I didn't make any claims myself. I have to add, if the supposed reasons that our troops are killing and dying is to "defend freedom" it seems more than a little ironic that the military finds it necessary to restrict their right to access information. And the plain fact is, this particular issue aside, the military does censor what information the troops may have access to as well as censoring information the American people are entitled to in regard to what the military is doing, never mind that we are footing the bill and it is, again, supposedly, "our freedom" they are fighting for.