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Liberty Star
08-21-2009, 08:58 PM
If these gruesome allegations are true, how did enhanced techniques like "drilling torture" got in the hands of US/UK trained Iraqi security forces?


According to those sources, the report will reveal that the CIA interrogators of suspected USS Cole bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri brandished a gun in front of him in an attempt to make him believe he was going to be shot — thus violating a federal law against threatening a detainee with “imminent death” — and also threatened him with a power drill.

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/21/newsweek-cia-report-to-reveal-mock-executions/


'Drilling torture'

This particular technique of torture and killing is a new one to add to an already long list of other forms of torture of which the new Iraqi police force stands accused.

The return to torture and killing by the security forces is another embarrassment for the American and British governments


The list compiled by Human Rights Watch includes beating detainees with cables, hanging them from their wrists for long periods and giving electric shocks to sensitive parts of the body.

From a video given to the BBC by the Association of Muslim Scholars (a Sunni Muslim organisation), it seems another particularly brutal form of torture can also be added - drilling into the knees, elbows and shoulders of victims.

The video shows the body of a Sunni Muslim preacher being washed for burial.

His supporters say he had been picked up by police commandos for allegedly being linked to the insurgency.

The camera focuses on marks all over his body including what appear to be drill holes.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4718999.stm


How far will Obama go to ignore rule of law and investigations of enhanced torture charges?

Is this why Cheney has been shaking lately and apparently cannot walk on his legs any more?

Liberty Star
08-21-2009, 09:12 PM
Ridge has made the shocking claim that Bush administration was using terror threat level danger codes as a commodity for political purposes.

Now could it be Obama administration is using these now-on-tomorrow-off enhanced torture investigations also for political purposes to blackmail GOP?
If they are applying rule of law, it would be a straight consistent process. What is with this GOP torture investigation game they have been playing?

Liberty Star
08-22-2009, 02:55 PM
MSM has picked up this story, it is going to be hard now for Obama administration to hide behind political excuses like economic crisis to avoid application of rule of law:


CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
IG Report Describes Tactics Against Alleged Cole Mastermind

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By Joby Warrick and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, August 22, 2009

CIA interrogators used a handgun and an electric drill to try to frighten a captured al-Qaeda commander into giving up information, according to a long-concealed agency report due to be made public next week, former and current U.S. officials who have read the document said Friday.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/22/AR2009082200045.html?hpid=topnews

Liberty Star
08-22-2009, 03:07 PM
This may explain also why Obama administration does not want enhanced torture photos to come out:


Obama administration asks SCOTUS to block detainee photos

By JOSH GERSTEIN | 8/7/09 6:09 PM EDT

The Obama Administration wants detainee abuse photos blocked by the Supreme Court.
Photo: AP

The Obama Administration is asking the Supreme Court to block the public release of detainee abuse photos that were the subject of a high-profile reversal by President Barack Obama earlier this year.


On Friday afternoon, the Justice Department filed a petition with the Supreme Court asking it to overturn an appeals court decision requiring the Pentagon to disclose the photos, which depict alleged abuse of prisoners in U.S. military custody in Iraq and Afghanistan.


“The President of the United States and the Nation’s highest-ranking military officers responsible for ongoing combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan have determined that disclosure by the government of the photographs at issue in this case would pose a significant risk to the lives and physical safety of American military and civilian personnel by inciting violence targeting those personnel,” Solicitor General Elena Kagan wrote.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25926.html#ixzz0OwuDLQQ0