Assault Rifle Publicity Stunt Was Planned With Police

[FrankRep]

Update:

News..
Protester carried rifle as publicity stunt
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/19/Protester-carried-rifle-as-publicity-stunt/UPI-32221250723463/
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2009/08/19/20090819riflestunt0819.html

Quote: "If you're not havin' fun advocating for freedom, you're doin' it wrong"

Assault Rifle Publicity Stunt Was Planned With Police

YouTube - Assault Rifle Publicity Stunt Was Planned With Police (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqPSV0ZQL1Q)



Background of News Story:
YouTube - Black man with "machine gun" protests Obama (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7syx26QtQIM)

[FrankRep]

Guns Now Visible Outside Venues of Obama Appearances
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/1684

The Firearm Derangement Syndrome Pandemic
http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5241

[InterestedParticipant]

Assault Rifle Publicity Stunt Was Planned With Police
Everything is propaganda now.

We've been had. They're mocking us now. It was a freaking setup. Please go back and read the thread on Jokers, Guns & Public Dissent.... do you realize where this is going? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=205940) That thread called it straight out!

p.s. Did you hear this guy say he was the one who started the "Love" in "R3veoluation" logo?

[Cowlesy]

And now those police probably respect and are thankful for Ernie Hancock and those guys engaging them.

Good work team Az!

[specsaregood]

Good on them. Mr. Hancock is awesome.

"If you aren't having fun while advocating for freedom, you are doing it wrong." -- Ernest Hancock.

[pcosmar]

Everything is propaganda now.

We've been had. They're mocking us now. It was a freaking setup. Please go back and read the thread on Jokers, Guns & Public Dissent.... do you realize where this is going? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=205940) That thread called it straight out!

p.s. Did you hear this guy say he was the one who started the "Love" in "R3veoluation" logo?

What?
Check yourself, before you wreck yourself.

btw, who do YOU think added that, and made videos, and encouraged others to also?

[Expatriate]

What? The news dude and the title of this video make it sound like a setup or some kind of crap and the AR-15 guy (Chris) was some kind of paid actor. All Ernest said was that he basically notified the police that he would be there open carrying in order to avoid misunderstandings, and that he knew Chris since he was a part of the whole Ron Paul thing.

[amy31416]

Quite frankly, it was the responsible thing to do to coordinate with the police. Wouldn't want anyone getting sniped.

[FrankRep]

p.s. Did you hear this guy say he was the one who started the "Love" in "R3veoluation" logo?

Yeah, he let the Ron Paul movement use it.

[Cowlesy]

Everything is propaganda now.

We've been had. They're mocking us now. It was a freaking setup. Please go back and read the thread on Jokers, Guns & Public Dissent.... do you realize where this is going? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=205940) That thread called it straight out!

p.s. Did you hear this guy say he was the one who started the "Love" in "R3veoluation" logo?

How have you been signed up since Oct 2007 and not known that Ernie Hancock created the Relov3ution symbol???

[specsaregood]

p.s. Did you hear this guy say he was the one who started the "Love" in "R3veoluation" logo?

Uhm he did -- as far as for a political logo. He saw the logo on the internet sometime in 2006, liked it and used it for one of his own campaigns in 2006.

He also originated it for the Ron Paul Revolution.
Here was the video that started it all:
YouTube - Ron Paul Revolution - Phoenix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwRXp8ZMdNQ)


I just posted that the other day, but its worth posting again. :D

[RideTheDirt]

Who wouldn't... If I planned on bringing a firearm to an event like this I would DEFINITELY inform the police to avoid any incident.

[InterestedParticipant]

Ugh, this is too revealing for me to process right now. See this stuff for what it is is really hard to take, no matter how long one has been at it. :(

This healthcare package is a MUST BEE milestone for them, for they are taking extreme risks in exposing themselves. I've never seen anything like this before.

[specsaregood]

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[FrankRep]

Ugh, this is too revealing for me to process right now. See this stuff for what it is is really hard to take, no matter how long one has been at it. :(

The AZ police is on our side. The Liberty movement is allowed to do Publicity stunts too!

[InterestedParticipant]

Go pour yourself a large glass of scotch, finish it then come back and tell us all about it.
If I open my mouth on this one and tell you what I see, I'll be burned at the stake by some here and ultimately banned. It's too far out, and it's too close to people's hearts. Some things are better not known. I can't prove it anyway, it's just observation.

But yeah, off to get that drink. Bee seeing you.

[FrankRep]

If I open my mouth on this one and tell you what I see, I'll be burned at the stake by some here and ultimately banned. It's too far out, and it's too close to people's hearts. Some things are better not known. I can't prove it anyway, it's just observation.

How is this Publicity Stunt a bad thing? I'd say it was genius.

[pcosmar]

Well I can tell you this. And it is not unexpected.
The other side is trying to tie this to the "Viper Militia".
Expect the Militia to be targeted for slander. :mad:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/heavily_armed_militia_defended_by_activist_resiste d_new_world_order.php?ref=m1


Time to support the right side of this issue. ;)

[ItsTime]

Im glad he did it the way he did. A black man fully loaded walking into a group of angry white people could have ended badly for him. I mean, the police dont racially profile or anything.....

[BenIsForRon]

If I open my mouth on this one and tell you what I see, I'll be burned at the stake by some here and ultimately banned. It's too far out, and it's too close to people's hearts. Some things are better not known. I can't prove it anyway, it's just observation.

But yeah, off to get that drink. Bee seeing you.

Ok man, listen to me, and try to understand what I'm saying. Your mind is so conspiracy oriented, that you twist and turn ideas a thousand times in your head to where they don't make sense anymore. I really think you might go insane if you don't take a step back.

All that happened here was Chris and his buddies contacted the cops before hand so that nothing crazy happened, like secret service seeing the gun and killing him. That's it, no conspiracy.

[dr teeth]

I don't understand what is wrong with this. By coordinating with police, they allowed the police to do their job. I own a few weapons. I don't carry myself, but I have no problem with someone, who chooses to carry. However a firearm is not a form of intimidation. Anyone who uses it as such has obviously never had to have real responsibility, while carrying a firearm. They aren't toys or T-shirt logos.

[FrankRep]

Ok man, listen to me, and try to understand what I'm saying. Your mind is so conspiracy oriented, that you twist and turn ideas a thousand times in your head to where they don't make sense anymore. I really think you might go insane if you don't take a step back.

IP also thinks G. Edward Griffin is Controlled Opposition (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=195399&highlight=Controlled+Opposition&page=7&p=2168165). Now Ron Paul? Chill out IP.

[South Park Fan]

Everytime I see one of these interviews, what little confidence I have in MSM goes down even further. I'm glad I don't actually watch CNN or MSNBC.

But, good for Ernie Hancock and Chris!

[james1906]

The AZ police is on our side. The Liberty movement is allowed to do Publicity stunts too!

I thought all their jobs were outsourced to Redflex

[jmdrake]

My respect for "Chris" keeps going up! Glad he covered all bases.

[FrankRep]

Note: The person who created a Ron Paul "Revolution" logo is a John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/) member. :-)

Nice!

Protester carried rifle as publicity stunt (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/19/Protester-carried-rifle-as-publicity-stunt/UPI-32221250723463/)

United Press International
Aug. 19, 2009

A protester who carried a semiautomatic rifle near the Phoenix Convention Center as President Obama spoke about healthcare reform said it was a publicity stunt.
...

Chris had met with Libertarians with whom he had worked on Ron Paul's presidential campaign, and they helped arrange the stunt, the Republic said.

Ernest Hancock, the publisher of a Libertarian publication, Freedom's Phoenix, told CNN Chris was a Phoenix-area resident, an independent conservative and a member of the John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/).

SOURCE:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/19/Protester-carried-rifle-as-publicity-stunt/UPI-32221250723463/

[specsaregood]

Ernest Hancock, the publisher of a Libertarian publication, Freedom's Phoenix, told CNN Chris was a Phoenix-area resident, an independent conservative and a member of the John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/).


Hah!, those darn birchers!

[Expatriate]

Chris was a Phoenix-area resident, an independent conservative and a member of the John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/).

SOURCE:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/19/Protester-carried-rifle-as-publicity-stunt/UPI-32221250723463/

Wait, a black man is a member of the John Birch Society? Everyone I know keeps telling me that the JBS is just the new KKK whenever I bring it up.

[BlackTerrel]

Ok man, listen to me, and try to understand what I'm saying. Your mind is so conspiracy oriented, that you twist and turn ideas a thousand times in your head to where they don't make sense anymore. I really think you might go insane if you don't take a step back.

All that happened here was Chris and his buddies contacted the cops before hand so that nothing crazy happened, like secret service seeing the gun and killing him. That's it, no conspiracy.

Well said. I don't see the issue here.

[FrankRep]

Wait, a black man is a member of the John Birch Society? Everyone I know keeps telling me that the JBS is just the new KKK whenever I bring it up.

Ernest Hancock is a JBS member, I don't know about the gentleman with the gun.

Side note:
Alicia Healy, a black female, is a member of the John Birch Society and her husband is a Columbus, Ohio chapter leader.

Alicia Healy at the Ohio Tea Party

YouTube - Candidate Alicia Healy speaks Aug 1st at the Ohio LiberTEA party in Columbus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv7Kd43ZS60)

[amy31416]

Frank, you can't take away the SPLC's shrieks of "racist!" or else they'll have to do something more drastic to smear such organizations.

Pretty good speech she gave there too.

[specsaregood]

Side note:
Alicia Healy, a black female, is a member of the John Birch Society and her husband is a Columbus, Ohio chapter leader.


This guy always gives the benediction at the big jbs events in my area:
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Speakers_Bureau/rev.stevencraft.001-001.jpg

The people that smear the jbs as racist are quite misinformed. But as amy says, it does work.

[FrankRep]

Other well known non-white John Birch Society members:

Sam Antonio
http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau/1728
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Speakers_Bureau/samantonio.jpg

Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau/1745
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Speakers_Bureau/rev.jessepeterson.001-001.jpg

Wilton Alston
http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau/1756
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Speakers_Bureau/wiltalston.001-001.jpg

David Eisenberg (Jewish) - JBS National Council
http://www.jbs.org/john-birch-society-national-council
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Article_Images/JBS_Leaders/eisenberg_sm.jpg

[james1906]

Other well known non-white John Birch Society members:

Sam Antonio
http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau/1728
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Speakers_Bureau/samantonio.jpg

Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau/1745
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Speakers_Bureau/rev.jessepeterson.001-001.jpg

Wilton Alston
http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau/1756
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Speakers_Bureau/wiltalston.001-001.jpg

David Eisenberg (Jewish) - JBS National Council
http://www.jbs.org/john-birch-society-national-council
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Article_Images/JBS_Leaders/eisenberg_sm.jpg

They do need some female representation.

[FrankRep]

They do need some female representation.

Kelly Taylor
http://www.jbs.org/action/speakers-bureau/1738
http://www.jbs.org/images/stories/Speakers_Bureau/kellytaylor.001-001.jpg

[Mandrik]

Oh man, that's awesome! If it wasn't so dang hot there I'd move to Phoenix. Probably better there right now than it is in York, Pa what with that dry heat. Felt like a damn sauna outside today. ;)

[Objectivist]

LMFAO WHen CNN asks if someone was being disingenuous I have to laugh.
Ever heard of Wolfe Blitzer?

[InterestedParticipant]

IP also thinks G. Edward Griffin is Controlled Opposition (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=195399&highlight=Controlled+Opposition&page=7&p=2168165). Now Ron Paul? Chill out IP.
I never said this nor implied this about RP. Apologize!

With respect to Griffin, I stand by what I said. The dialectic dynamics confirm it. But I don't expect someone inside a group that lives inside the dialectic to be able to see it, so there is no reason to engage in any further discussion here.

[specsaregood]

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[InterestedParticipant]

IP, did you have that drink? I'm breaking my usual rule of not drinking on the weekday in honor of the moneybomb. Single-malt scotch FTW.
Decaf coffee :)

[jmdrake]

I never said this nor implied this about RP. Apologize!

With respect to Griffin, I stand by what I said. The dialectic dynamics confirm it. But I don't expect someone inside a group that lives inside the dialectic to be able to see it, so there is no reason to engage in any further discussion here.

So are you acusing Ron Paul of being naive and "living inside the dialectic" since he doesn't share your view on Griffin (or just about anyone else for that matter)? Really you've jumped the shark.

[Bman]

I never said this nor implied this about RP. Apologize!

With respect to Griffin, I stand by what I said. The dialectic dynamics confirm it. But I don't expect someone inside a group that lives inside the dialectic to be able to see it, so there is no reason to engage in any further discussion here.

Just, please, no lizard people nonsense.

[InterestedParticipant]

So are you acusing Ron Paul of being naive and "living inside the dialectic" since he doesn't share your view on Griffin (or just about anyone else for that matter)? Really you've jumped the shark.
No, my comments were directed at the poster.

Good try though.

P.S. you have no idea what RP thinks in private.

[pcosmar]

Decaf coffee :)

Well that explains it.

Makes about as much sense as dehydrated water.

[Expatriate]

What is up with the titles of these videos. It's NEITHER an assault rifle or a machine gun! I see this consistently from pro-disarmament types.

Doesn't making these mistakes kind of disqualify people like this from criticizing them? I mean, if I wanted to get jet-skis banned and I referred to them as submarines, nobody would listen to me. Can't they be bothered to learn what it is they want to ban?

[BenIsForRon]

What is up with the titles of these videos. It's NEITHER an assault rifle or a machine gun! I see this consistently from pro-disarmament types.

Doesn't making these mistakes kind of disqualify people like this from criticizing them? I mean, if I wanted to get jet-skis banned and I referred to them as submarines, nobody would listen to me. Can't they be bothered to learn what it is they want to ban?

lol

[FrankRep]

Chris aka-AR15 Gun Rights Activist on Alex Jones

1/7
YouTube - "Chris"aka-AR15 Gun Rights Activist on Alex Jones Tv 1/7:You Must Exercise Your Gun Rights!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92DVGwhZOu4)

2/7
YouTube - "Chris"aka-AR15 Gun Rights Activist on Alex Jones Tv 2/7:You Must Exercise Your Gun Rights!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf5aHMlnA7A)


The Rest:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aka-AR15+Gun+Rights+Activist+on+Alex+Jones&search_type=&aq=f