Obama to Announce Draft on 9.11 [Mod Note: Not exactly]

[cindy25]

http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=3882

Obama to annouce mandatory "volunteerism"
By Comrade Whoopie
8/14/2009, 8:00 am

Q: What do you think of national, a mandatory national service?

OBAMA: You know, I am actually a big supporter. My wife ran a AmeriCorp program –national service program – in Chicago, and I would actually like to see a system in which every young person had to get involved in some capacity whether it was military service, non for profit work, government work for a year or two of their lives.

I think a lot of young people would jump at the chance if it weren’t for the fact that their coming out of college with 50,000, 70,000 a 100,000 dollars worth of debt. So if we tied national service – a mandatory national service – to debt relief for young people, then I think you would see a lot of takers.

UPDATE: Obama will be announcing the implementation of the "Civilian Community Service Corps" on 9.11 in LaFayette Park.

Posted by Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs on Friday, August 07, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Note that Obama always uses the word "a" when he should say "an"... perhaps it just sounds like his other favorite word "Uhhh." I also wonder what "non for profit" means. Apparently the rules of English grammer are as meaningless to him as the Constitution.

[JenH88]

oh what irony it would be if our first african american president made a new form of legal slavery..

it's well known that this administration wants mandatory national service.. do the dare have the balls to try to implement such a thing?

[Epic]

Uhhh now the government directly owns you?

http://polijamblog.polijam.com/?p=4617 <------------ BOMBSHELL AUDIO from July 2006 where Obama says service will be mandatory

[dr. hfn]

if this happens, i will be waiting for the first shots

[ClayTrainor]

oh what irony it would be if our first african american president made a new form of legal slavery..


qft :(

[cindy25]

the link to the original post.



http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/coming-911.html

[Rael]

where does if say that it will be mandatory?

[reagle]

YouTube - Obama's Plan for The Draft- MANDATORY SERVICE everyone 18-25 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDSwyCPEsQ)

[cindy25]

in Obama's own voice

http://polijamblog.polijam.com/?p=4617

[Flash]

http://digg.com/politics/Obama_will_announce_his_mandatory_civilian_service

Digg this story.

[Endgame]

Look how they're panicking over the public's resistance to healthcare. This is going to be a complete shitstorm.

[Rael]

I still can't find any part of the law that says this is mandatory.

[Flash]

http://digg.com/politics/Obama_will_announce_his_mandatory_civilian_service

Digg this story.



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I still can't find any part of the law that says this is mandatory.

Me neither. But saying it's just as well funded as the Navy is scary.

[cindy25]

1 )Ted Kennedy is nearing the end, as he did not attend Eunice's funeral-and I bet they are planning to turn his funeral into a push for health care and national service

2) the Af-pak war is going badly, and they need more troops that they don't have

3) the push to take over student loans, and then insert by executive order a national service requirement for loan access.

[SimpleName]

oh what irony it would be if our first african american president made a new form of legal slavery..


:D:D:D

This is really a scary issue. Seriously, this is the 1st level (compulsory school is the foundation) of totalitarian government. This is straight up forced labor. Now kids not only have to show up and offer their minds, they have to offer actual physical labor as well (gym class?) UGH! One to two years? They are already stuck in shithole schools for 13 years, which is about 585 24 hour days worth or 1 year and 145 days. I mean, add in the homework and kids are forced to do work for the government 2 full years of their life. Now you want to add in government laboring as well? JESUS! It may not be mandatory now, but it'll come VERY soon. It drives me up the wall. How do people not see this? The schools suck, these apathetic parents suck, and this whole damn country is starting to REALLY suck.

^I am getting over terrible sunburn. lol

[Stary Hickory]

People are not going to comply. Is he plain nuts? What a disaster Obama has been, a real lunatic. My brothers and sisters will not be doing any such thing. How dare he even consider such things. The arrogance and immorality of this man is beyond anything I have seen in my lifetime.

[cindy25]

those who have the gold make the rules, and if Obama (or McCain ) block access to private student loans, then force states to make it part of state university curriculum (only NH stood up to the seat belt law) they will have their mandatory service and call it voluntary

[CableNewsJunkie]

"So if we tied national service – a mandatory national service – to debt relief for young people, then I think you would see a lot of takers."


Debt slavery??? What about young people that aren't in debt?

[NYgs23]

They'll probably try various forms of bribery and financial/academic extortion first.

[satchelmcqueen]

if this happens, i will be waiting for the first shots

same here and it may come from me. they WILL NOT get my kids!

[satchelmcqueen]

I still can't find any part of the law that says this is mandatory.

his own website did say that since late last year. they changed the wording of it several times. havent looked today though. just go to his website under america serves and if all is still the same, youll see it IF they havent re-worded it again. or just find some internet cache type thing and go back last year and look.

[satchelmcqueen]

:D:D:D

This is really a scary issue. Seriously, this is the 1st level (compulsory school is the foundation) of totalitarian government. This is straight up forced labor. Now kids not only have to show up and offer their minds, they have to offer actual physical labor as well (gym class?) UGH! One to two years? They are already stuck in shithole schools for 13 years, which is about 585 24 hour days worth or 1 year and 145 days. I mean, add in the homework and kids are forced to do work for the government 2 full years of their life. Now you want to add in government laboring as well? JESUS! It may not be mandatory now, but it'll come VERY soon. It drives me up the wall. How do people not see this? The schools suck, these apathetic parents suck, and this whole damn country is starting to REALLY suck.

^I am getting over terrible sunburn. lol

agreed! i put a letter in my local news paper about this same stuff, and NO ONE responded. i guess i was looked at as a conspiracy guy . wonder what they will say now? i bet most of the parents wont even remember they were told about it.



heres the letter i put in the paper....
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" Ive been a little leery about putting this letter in the news paper, but I feel very strong that if no one says anything, then nothing will ever change and things will only get worse. This is mainly to anyone who has a child in the Fannin County School System.

Have you had to deal with phone calls or threatening letters sent home with your kids concerning tardies or absences that go beyond a common sense approach? If so, are you tired of it?

I received a message on my answering machine a few weeks ago from the Fannin school system saying that I needed to return their call because it was about my sons attendance. I was a bit confused as to why this might be since our 2 kids very rarely miss any school days unless they are sick or some unavoidable situation comes up. At this point in time my son had only missed 2 days due to sickness, with a doctors excuse, and had been tardy only about 3 times that I knew of with 2 of them being unavoidable with very good reasons. One tardy was because he was in a car accident on the way to school. I came to the accident myself and took him and his sister on to school since they were not injured. They arrived around 8:30 and informed the office of the reason with a note signed by me. The 2nd tardy was due to our Jeep having a dead battery one cold morning and it caused them to be about 15 minutes late and the office was informed. The 3rd tardy was due to getting stuck in traffic on HWY 5 which amounted to about 5 minutes tardy time. Fine, Ill except that one. We should have left earlier.

When I returned the call I was told my son had 2 days against him with 4 tardies. When I asked what the 4th tardy was for, I was told that he signed in at 8:00am. Knowing the answer, I asked what was the latest time that a child can sign in. I was told 8am. I then asked how and why this could be counted as a tardy? I was told that they "figured" that if a child signs in at 8am then they are probably lolly gagging or late anyway. Key words here "probably" and "8am". So not only was my child NOT tardy by their own admitted 8:00am sign in time, they are assuming other things with no proof and counted it as a tardy anyway.

The phone call was basically insulting to me as a parent since there was no common understanding or reasoning with the school as to how the 2 days missed were not excused and the other tardies were things that sometimes happen in life and are unavoidable, with the exception of that one occurrence of course. The doctors excuse wasn't considered and the car wreck wasn't mentioned on their part and should not be counted against any child.

Here is a letter I received in the mail over the week end which shows how much common sense is lacking in this situation. Here are the exact times counted against my kid towards tardies...8:03, 8:01, 8:00, 8:05, 8:27. Im guessing the 8:27 one is due to the car wreck as it doesnt say otherwise. Other than that, he has a total of 9 minutes missed. Seems a bit nitpicky to me and ridiculous.

This isn't the first time Ive had to deal with letters from the school system since they began bullying the parents and threatening the kids over things that a little common sense and understanding could easily solve. When my daughter was in the second grade, we got a letter saying she had missed over 10 days and that an officer would be making a visit to our home if she missed anymore. We knew right away this wasnt right. After making a call to the school office, we found out that at least four days were counted against her even though she didnt miss those days, and that a doctors excuse for the flu was not considered as it should have been.

I'm all for making sure a child is in school, and I understand truancy laws, but the school system should not go about it with a police state attitude and incorrect information. If a child isn't in school because the parents are lazy or just don't care, then I say something should be done within the limits of the Constitution. I also think that a little common sense can easily sort out the parents that do care and those that don't. A phone call or letter isn't necessary every time. It should be considered that things in life will happen sometimes that will make a child late or have to miss a day here and there. Ive heard that the school system is now threatening kids with community service and threatening to take them away from their parents for missed days even when some of those days were supposed to be excused. I have to wonder what that does to a childs mind and ability to learn and concentrate after a letter like that? And we are the bad parents? This is not right and needs to stop now. Here is what the Constitution says about involuntary servitude or community service in this case.

"Amendment XIII
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

I do realize that the school will claim this is a state law and they are within their rights, but just because a law is passed does not make it right. They claim this is done to ensure a child doesnt miss out on instruction time. In my opinion, most all of it is done to ensure that the schools dont miss out on government grants and free money. Do we not have tardy bells anymore? Of course not. That would soften the free government money opportunity. This is just the beginning of us losing our rights if we don't speak up.

One more thing that must be said is, don't expect our President to help in these kind of situations either. He has an even bigger and intrusive plan for our kids in the form of 50 hours of required community service per year from middle school through high school for ALL students if he gets his way. This will be mandatory and not voluntary. Go to his government website under "http://www.barackobama.com/issues/service/" to see this yourself. I urge everyone that has a child or grandchild in school to write our Congressman and tell him to fight against this authority and the laws that give the school system this power over our kids and our rights as parents if a common sense approach cannot be used. If you feel this way, then please say something. I can't be the only one. Junk laws and misplaced authority like this could land you and your child in court real quick for no real reason. Stand up!



...when government turns bad, the best people ultimately become criminals. The people don't change; the laws do. Initiative, dissent, individual pleasures and exercise of one's basic rights become "crimes"....


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