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disorderlyvision
08-12-2009, 10:19 PM
Former sheriff eying run for governor
By Jeremy Duda


Published: August 11, 2009 at 7:43 pm

A prominent Arizona sheriff who became an icon to conservatives across the United States is considering a run for governor. Hint: It’s not Joe Arpaio. Former Graham County Sheriff Richard Mack, who garnered national attention in the 1990s for his successful challenge of the federal Brady Bill, said he might vie for the Republican nomination in ...

It requires a login to read the whole story. Can someone hunt one down???????

http://azcapitoltimes.com/blog/2009/08/11/former-graham-county-sheriff-mack-eying-run-for-governor/

FSP-Rebel
08-12-2009, 10:45 PM
This would be huge!

Njon
08-12-2009, 10:55 PM
That would be fantastic.

Njon
08-13-2009, 12:04 AM
If you support the idea, contact Sheriff Mack and let him know: http://www.sheriffmack.com/index.php/contact-us-mainmenu-3

disorderlyvision
08-13-2009, 08:17 AM
bump

Cowlesy
08-13-2009, 08:28 AM
Hope our Arizona members see this

Chester Copperpot
08-13-2009, 08:36 AM
Isnt Sheriff Mack a member here? Why doesnt somebody just ask him?

disorderlyvision
08-13-2009, 08:52 AM
Isnt Sheriff Mack a member here? Why doesnt somebody just ask him?


Yeah, but he is not the most computer savvy guy. I had to help him get back to the site and logged in last time he made an appearnce. I will shoot him an e-mail in a bit and see what he says.

Cowlesy
08-13-2009, 09:13 AM
You should ask him about the SPLC labeling him as a Hero in the Militia Movement lol

I recall a news article where a reporter asked him if he was on the "militia circuit" and he replied with a question, "What is the militia circuit?"

disorderlyvision
08-13-2009, 09:35 AM
I sent him an e-mail. I will let you know when he replies. He usually replies fairly quick. If I don't hear from him today. I will give him a call tommorow and ask him directly. I am excited about him running if it is true.

Cowsley, I included your question

erowe1
08-13-2009, 10:05 AM
Is there a Facebook group for this?

Flash
08-13-2009, 04:29 PM
bump :D

disorderlyvision
08-13-2009, 09:33 PM
Cool, this thread got mentioned on the DailyPaul:)

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/103142

disorderlyvision
08-22-2009, 04:58 PM
his reply:



Thanks. I appreciate your help. I am seriously considering the run for governor and if we did a money bomb and raised 2 or 3 hundred thousand I'd probably do it. My wife is so concerned about the financial aspects of running and that I would be forced tp spend our life savings and retirement on the race. If I could show her the people are behind me I am sure it would convince her. I'll check with some other people about it here in Az.
RM


Lets show him (and his wife) that "the people are behind him"

Anybody down for this???

I will help promote it but I am no goood with building websites and that type of stuff. When/if we can organize a $ bomb, we should also have a day where everyone calls/e-mails their local sheriffs to donate to his campaign.

Austin
08-22-2009, 05:31 PM
Is there a Facebook group for this?

There is now...

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=153994416176

rockandrollsouls
08-22-2009, 05:35 PM
This would be great :D

disorderlyvision
08-22-2009, 05:56 PM
There is now...

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=153994416176

Nice!, you should make a seperate thread to promote it.

Njon
08-22-2009, 08:18 PM
his reply:


Lets show him (and his wife) that "the people are behind him"

Anybody down for this???

I would help promote it but I am no goood with building websites and that type of stuff. When/if we can organize a $ bomb, we should also have a day where everyone calls/e-mails their local sheriffs to donate to his campaign.

It would be unwise for him to spend his life savings on running. If he can't get the proper support from us, then he shouldn't run. But he should be able to get the proper support from us. Gubernatorial races --- especially with candidates like Sheriff Mack --- are even more important than Congressional races. A governor like Mack would fight federal tyranny head on, just like Ray McBerry in Georgia: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=205155

disorderlyvision, if you want to get the ball rolling on this you should contact Genesis Communications Network, Revolution Broadcasting, Break the Matrix, 9/12 Candidates and even Retake Congress and ask them to consider getting behind Mack and planning/promoting a money bomb for him.

cindy25
08-22-2009, 08:24 PM
Senate seats are the most important; governors can't do much as they are bound so much by federal policy

Njon
08-22-2009, 08:28 PM
Senate seats are the most important; governors can't do much as they are bound so much by federal policy

You're wrong on that point. Governors are not bound by any federal policy; Mack's own U.S. Supreme Court case --- Printz/Mack v. United States --- affirmed the fact that the federal government cannot control the state governments (except, of course, in the areas explicitly mentioned in the Constitution).

The state governments are only bound by what they allow the feds to tell them to do. And Mack wouldn't be taking any orders from D.C. When the feds are in his jurisdiction, he would be giving the orders to them.

RCA
08-22-2009, 09:17 PM
It would be nice if he garnered an endorsement from the Goldwater Institute:

http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/

disorderlyvision
08-22-2009, 09:25 PM
disorderlyvision, if you want to get the ball rolling on this you should contact Genesis Communications Network, Revolution Broadcasting, Break the Matrix, 9/12 Candidates and even Retake Congress and ask them to consider getting behind Mack and planning/promoting a money bomb for him.

I will start contacting people about this tommorow...




And Mack wouldn't be taking any orders from D.C. When the feds are in his jurisdiction, he would be giving the orders to them.

+1776, He has already proven that:cool:

roho76
08-22-2009, 09:46 PM
To bad he's not running in Michigan.:(

On a side note how long till the Feds try passing laws making it illegal to pay money to a campaign outside of your own district, except for them of course?

disorderlyvision
08-22-2009, 09:47 PM
To bad he's not running in Michigan.:(

On a side note how long till the Feds try passing laws making it illegal to pay money to a campaign outside of your own district, except for them of course?


I am sure we could find ways to skirt that;)

KCIndy
08-22-2009, 10:39 PM
On a side note how long till the Feds try passing laws making it illegal to pay money to a campaign outside of your own district, except for them of course?



SSHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Don't give 'em any ideas!! ;)


Seriously, this would be phenomenal. If Sheriff Mack decides to run, I would certainly hope we could give him much more support than two to three hundred grand. I would imagine to run a really effective gubernatorial campaign, he would need somewhere between $750,000 to a million. Rand Paul is already above 700K, and I would think that with a little advance notice we could do at least as well for Mack.

I can't see a downside here. Can anyone else?

cindy25
08-23-2009, 01:27 AM
the senate is crucial; it was Mike Gravel who ended the draft.
if health care is stopped it will be in the senate

if the fed income tax is 70% it doesn't matter if the state has zero or 10%
if their is a federal draft the governor can do nothing
if health insurance is mandatory a governor is of no help.

disorderlyvision
08-23-2009, 08:32 AM
the senate is crucial; it was Mike Gravel who ended the draft.
if health care is stopped it will be in the senate

if the fed income tax is 70% it doesn't matter if the state has zero or 10%
if their is a federal draft the governor can do nothing
if health insurance is mandatory a governor is of no help.

The governor can refuse to comply in his state.

The feds told Mack he had to enforce the Brady Bill, which came from this all powerful senate you speak of. he basically said "go fuck yourself" and won a supreme court case.

disorderlyvision
08-23-2009, 09:57 AM
I just wrote a letter to the editor at Freedom's Phoenix:


Breaking News!! Sheriff Richard Mack to run for AZ Gov. with your help

I have some potentially awesome news!! Sheriff Mack might run for Governor of Arizona!

Roughly two weeks ago, I came across this article: http://azcapitoltimes.com/blog/2009/08/11/former-graham-county-sheriff-mack-eying-run-for-governor/ claiming that Mack was "eyeing a run for governor." The only problem is that you need a password to read the entire article. The part you can read states:

A prominent Arizona sheriff who became an icon to conservatives across the United States is considering a run for governor. Hint: It’s not Joe Arpaio. Former Graham County Sheriff Richard Mack, who garnered national attention in the 1990s for his successful challenge of the federal Brady Bill, said he might vie for the Republican nomination in ...

I have been in contact with retired sheriff Richard Mack regularly helping to promote his book: "The County Sheriff: America's Last Hope." So, I got in touch with him to ask him about his potential run for office. He Replied:

I am seriously considering the run for governor...My wife is so concerned about the financial aspects of running and that I would be forced to spend our life savings and retirement on the race. If I could show her the people are behind me I am sure it would convince her.


That is where we come in. It is time for the grassroots to organize and show Sheriff Mack (and his wife) that the public is behind him. This would be a huge victory for liberty! Anyone who knows the Sheriff knows that he will take the federal gvernment head on. he proved that by refusing to comply with the enforcement of the Brady Bill, taking it to the Supreme Court, and winning a victory for the people. Since, He has become a prominent speaker in the liberty movement, and he has been reaching out to county sheriff's in an attempt to get them to uphold their oath and follow the Constitution.

If you are unfamiliar with Sheriff Mack check out his website at:

http://www.sheriffmack.com/

Let us organize,

disorderlyvision
08-23-2009, 11:25 AM
Added to blog on C4L:

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=24124

post a comment....

KCIndy
08-23-2009, 01:38 PM
Added to blog on C4L:

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=24124

post a comment....


Comment posted! And thanks for the blog entry. It would be pretty damn exciting to see Sheriff Mack run.

Njon
08-23-2009, 02:51 PM
if the fed income tax is 70% it doesn't matter if the state has zero or 10%

The state can block the IRS. Read Ray McBerry's State Authority and Federal Tax Fund Act: http://www.georgiafirst.org/governor/bills.shtml


if their is a federal draft the governor can do nothing

He can use state law enforcement to resist federal enforcement of the draft.


if health insurance is mandatory a governor is of no help.

The state can block that, too. In fact, Arizona is looking at nullifying federal health care right now: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/26/arizona-hcr2014-national-health-care-nullification/

FSP-Rebel
08-23-2009, 03:48 PM
The state can block the IRS. Read Ray McBerry's State Authority and Federal Tax Fund Act: http://www.georgiafirst.org/governor/bills.shtml



He can use state law enforcement to resist federal enforcement of the draft.



The state can block that, too. In fact, Arizona is looking at nullifying federal health care right now: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/26/arizona-hcr2014-national-health-care-nullification/
Yeah, NH's legislature and Governor signed a law back in 2006 that NH will never comply with any sort of REAL-ID measure from the federal government. And from what I hear, there's talk of going MT style with the gun issue.

disorderlyvision
08-23-2009, 06:30 PM
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Letter-to-Editor.htm?EdNo=001&Info=0068089
op/ed on freedom's phoenix

teamrican1
08-23-2009, 06:52 PM
Senate seats are the most important; governors can't do much as they are bound so much by federal policy

Yeah, I can't stress how wrong you are on that. A pro-liberty Governor could be worth a dozen pro-liberty Senators. A Governor could refuse to enforce unconstitutional laws from the Feds, and at the extreme, would be the one leading the call for a secession congress if a state wanted to opt out of the union again. Mack could get us so much attention if he were to win. Every time he defied a Federal order it would create a national news story.

cindy25
08-24-2009, 01:06 AM
Seymour tried to block Lincoln's draft after the NYC riots of 1863; Lincoln sent 20,000 federal troops, draft proceeded.

I agree a governor can help by refusing to share info (drivers licenses are used for draft registration, state and federal tax departments routinely share info etc) but a governor can't even refuse to extradite between states anymore

teamrican1
08-24-2009, 08:40 AM
Seymour tried to block Lincoln's draft after the NYC riots of 1863; Lincoln sent 20,000 federal troops, draft proceeded.

I agree a governor can help by refusing to share info (drivers licenses are used for draft registration, state and federal tax departments routinely share info etc) but a governor can't even refuse to extradite between states anymore

I think you are confusing "can't" with "won't". The sorry state of opposition to the Federal Government is a direct consequence of not having any principled men like Sheriff Mack occupying any Governor's mansions. Before Sheriff Mack, not a single Sheriff in the entire country had the courage to stand up to the Brady Bill. He did it, and won. Sometimes that's all it takes. Just one person to stand up and do the right thing. Having such a man running the executive branch of a state would be a massive victory for the liberty movement.

disorderlyvision
08-30-2009, 06:05 PM
bump

FSP-Rebel
08-30-2009, 06:06 PM
I'm starting to think that Mack would be of better help to us all in the US Senate.