tangent4ronpaul
08-12-2009, 05:22 PM
HR 3200 is a strange beast. Decide the health care system is broken, and instead of fixing anything about it, decide everyone needs to be insured. That keeps it expensive and just provides more people paying for it.
Now the US pays more for the same drugs as anyone in the world. We also use more drugs than any other country, per-capita. Big Pharma is also the most profitable business sector in the country. The Health Care Bill has (or rather had) a section in it that said the US Gvmt would dictate how much they paid for pharmaceuticals. btw: one of BO's campaign promises was that we would overturn the ban on being able to negotiate drug prices, like Canada does. Another broken promise. So why is Big Pharma now stumping for the Health Care Bill to the tune of a 150 Million dollar advertising campaign? Well, check out the video here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=205065
Turns out Obama cut a deal with Big Pharma to save 80 Billion over in drug costs over 10 years (and then NOTHING!), that's 8 Billion a year. Pretty decent chunk of change, eh? The CNN reporter was saying the country got burned because we could have saved twice that. But wait! The sharper pencils in the jar should be asking how much we spend on pharmaceuticals a year... Turns out it's $289 Billion a year, so 8 Billion is a 2.77% discount! Wow, that's really going to help cut down health care costs.
But wait - remember No Child Left Behind, where Big Pharma wrote the part about forced drugging of kids for ADD and ADHD and specified in the legislation what PROPRIETARY drugs were to be given. Now we have this committee that is going to dictate to doctors what care they provide, to who and how... Keeping in mind that a drug under patent can often sell for 20 TIMES what it's generic equivalent costs....
Even failing that, there are stores that will raise prices right before a sale, and in the normal course of business, prices tent to rise to accommodate normal increases in operating expenses. Things like materials, shipping costs, employee benefits like HEALTH CARE, and so on... additional costs are always passed on to the consumer - like say a 2.77% increase in operating expenses, and it's such a tiny increase the consumer will hardly notice it.
Uh-Hu....
Now there is the big question of why the insurance industry, who this bill, as currently written, would put out of business is also stumping for the bill... hmmmm....
-t
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Now the US pays more for the same drugs as anyone in the world. We also use more drugs than any other country, per-capita. Big Pharma is also the most profitable business sector in the country. The Health Care Bill has (or rather had) a section in it that said the US Gvmt would dictate how much they paid for pharmaceuticals. btw: one of BO's campaign promises was that we would overturn the ban on being able to negotiate drug prices, like Canada does. Another broken promise. So why is Big Pharma now stumping for the Health Care Bill to the tune of a 150 Million dollar advertising campaign? Well, check out the video here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=205065
Turns out Obama cut a deal with Big Pharma to save 80 Billion over in drug costs over 10 years (and then NOTHING!), that's 8 Billion a year. Pretty decent chunk of change, eh? The CNN reporter was saying the country got burned because we could have saved twice that. But wait! The sharper pencils in the jar should be asking how much we spend on pharmaceuticals a year... Turns out it's $289 Billion a year, so 8 Billion is a 2.77% discount! Wow, that's really going to help cut down health care costs.
But wait - remember No Child Left Behind, where Big Pharma wrote the part about forced drugging of kids for ADD and ADHD and specified in the legislation what PROPRIETARY drugs were to be given. Now we have this committee that is going to dictate to doctors what care they provide, to who and how... Keeping in mind that a drug under patent can often sell for 20 TIMES what it's generic equivalent costs....
Even failing that, there are stores that will raise prices right before a sale, and in the normal course of business, prices tent to rise to accommodate normal increases in operating expenses. Things like materials, shipping costs, employee benefits like HEALTH CARE, and so on... additional costs are always passed on to the consumer - like say a 2.77% increase in operating expenses, and it's such a tiny increase the consumer will hardly notice it.
Uh-Hu....
Now there is the big question of why the insurance industry, who this bill, as currently written, would put out of business is also stumping for the bill... hmmmm....
-t
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