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tangent4ronpaul
08-12-2009, 05:22 PM
HR 3200 is a strange beast. Decide the health care system is broken, and instead of fixing anything about it, decide everyone needs to be insured. That keeps it expensive and just provides more people paying for it.

Now the US pays more for the same drugs as anyone in the world. We also use more drugs than any other country, per-capita. Big Pharma is also the most profitable business sector in the country. The Health Care Bill has (or rather had) a section in it that said the US Gvmt would dictate how much they paid for pharmaceuticals. btw: one of BO's campaign promises was that we would overturn the ban on being able to negotiate drug prices, like Canada does. Another broken promise. So why is Big Pharma now stumping for the Health Care Bill to the tune of a 150 Million dollar advertising campaign? Well, check out the video here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=205065

Turns out Obama cut a deal with Big Pharma to save 80 Billion over in drug costs over 10 years (and then NOTHING!), that's 8 Billion a year. Pretty decent chunk of change, eh? The CNN reporter was saying the country got burned because we could have saved twice that. But wait! The sharper pencils in the jar should be asking how much we spend on pharmaceuticals a year... Turns out it's $289 Billion a year, so 8 Billion is a 2.77% discount! Wow, that's really going to help cut down health care costs.

But wait - remember No Child Left Behind, where Big Pharma wrote the part about forced drugging of kids for ADD and ADHD and specified in the legislation what PROPRIETARY drugs were to be given. Now we have this committee that is going to dictate to doctors what care they provide, to who and how... Keeping in mind that a drug under patent can often sell for 20 TIMES what it's generic equivalent costs....

Even failing that, there are stores that will raise prices right before a sale, and in the normal course of business, prices tent to rise to accommodate normal increases in operating expenses. Things like materials, shipping costs, employee benefits like HEALTH CARE, and so on... additional costs are always passed on to the consumer - like say a 2.77% increase in operating expenses, and it's such a tiny increase the consumer will hardly notice it.

Uh-Hu....

Now there is the big question of why the insurance industry, who this bill, as currently written, would put out of business is also stumping for the bill... hmmmm....

-t

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tangent4ronpaul
08-12-2009, 07:51 PM
blimp!

tangent4ronpaul
08-13-2009, 05:09 PM
blimp - WAKE UP PEOPLE!

-t

Working Poor
08-13-2009, 05:20 PM
oh this BS just pisses me off so much

Charlie41
08-13-2009, 05:36 PM
Really pisses you off? Have you read the hole thing?

Here you go.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text

According to this. My wife will either no longer receive her meds for her R.A. that enables her to move around, and get to work without pain, or she will be severely rationed because of the cost, and her age .

There will be hell to pay if this bill passes. I know I'm not the only one that will have to watch a loved one suffer. Can you even imagine the rage across this country when the rationing starts to happen? How many people will suffer? How many of there loved ones will directly blame the feds? How many will loose there minds because of this?



And if your a snitch reporting this post......... Go for it you wine ass commie! After reading this bill, I no longer care.

bunklocoempire
08-13-2009, 05:48 PM
Ba-bump.

tangent4ronpaul
08-14-2009, 05:26 AM
It's hit the news wires - the "deal", not that the deal is "pocket change", in the drug cost formula. I really have to wonder how many congress critters that vote for this crap and meet someone that's blown a gasket so end up pushing daisies it will take before these ASSHOLES will start listening to their constituents!

I'm guessing 15-20, betting pool anyone?

Wanna start a list of most desirable "worm food"?

-t

tangent4ronpaul
08-14-2009, 05:54 AM
Just to clarify something - I AM *NOT* advocating violence against any congressional critter, just predicting that this will be the straw that will breaks the camels back. I *DO* think this legislation is going to pass and put a lot of people out of work, send a lot pf people into bankruptcy, and just be the tipping point.... The government has gone too far. They are openly lying about the effects this bill will have.

Would I ever consider harming a hair on my resident socialist congress critters head - nah! but his district office seems like it needs a paint job - maybe florescent hot pink, or some landscaping in appreciation - say with defoliant, and spelling out letters.... Mayby spelling out "TRAITOR"!

My Congress critter NEEDS to GO! - he's endorsed this con job, not to mention a long voting history in opposition to the Constitution! His staff also lied to me about this to gather opposition info.

If I had a horse, I would sacrifice it and mount it's skin on a pole pointed toward his residence!

-t