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Imperial
08-11-2009, 12:43 PM
Check it out here (http://http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/11/765159/-GEICO-pulls-its-ads-from-Glenn-Beck-show)

Apparently Geico has been the next to cave in and switch to other Fox News shows. There were four others a few days ago that came out against Beck. They are switching to other Fox News TV shows.

While Beck sometimes gets out there, at the same time he will host differing conservative views all at once and provides a media market and forum for libertarian ideas to be exposed to the general populace.

MsDoodahs
08-11-2009, 12:47 PM
Wait - Beck has the highest ratings and these companies are pulling their ads?

You gotta be kidding me?

Wouldn't that sorta be .... advertising suicide in this environment...

Imperial
08-11-2009, 12:49 PM
They still have O'Reily and Hannity. :/

Cowlesy
08-11-2009, 12:51 PM
Wait - Beck has the highest ratings and these companies are pulling their ads?

You gotta be kidding me?

Wouldn't that sorta be .... advertising suicide in this environment...

Radical left is very very loud

dr. hfn
08-11-2009, 12:57 PM
Wait - Beck has the highest ratings and these companies are pulling their ads?

You gotta be kidding me?

Wouldn't that sorta be .... advertising suicide in this environment...

actually on the dailypaul there was a cables news ratings post that show hannity and o'reilly still lead beck.

ClayTrainor
08-11-2009, 01:06 PM
Sounds like some good Media Buy opportunities could arise from this :D

LibertyEagle
08-11-2009, 01:15 PM
This is how one doctor brought down Phil Donahue and got him off the air.

We could take a page from this and use it to our advantage. If nothing else, we could have a letter-writing campaign to those companies that dropped Beck. Telling them that if they're going to drop Beck, that we are dropping them and every, single one of their products. Of course, we should make it sound all patriotic and stuff, too. ;) I doubt it would take all that many letters to make them see the fiscal error of their ways.

Anyone game?

tron paul
08-11-2009, 01:23 PM
Nobody cares what the fake progressives say.

Beck's ratings are up over 100%.

Real progressives read TruthDig and stand with Nader, against Obama.

Flash
08-11-2009, 01:39 PM
Well according to this black biased racialist (http://www.examiner.com/x-19673-Michelle-Obama-Examiner~y2009m8d10-Glenn-Beck-loses-advertising-because-of-black-blogs-complaints--is-Rush-Limbaugh-next), black socialist blogs were teaming up to send over 100,000 complaints (spam) to the Fox network.

He Who Pawns
08-11-2009, 01:41 PM
My only problem with Beck is all his religious bullshit, which has no place in a discussion of the federal government.

Elwar
08-11-2009, 02:12 PM
Just tell everyone that the companies are dumping Beck because they saw this:

YouTube - Glenn Beck implies Ron Paul supporters are terrorists (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rc4OJWH1nE)

Brian4Liberty
08-11-2009, 02:37 PM
Just tell everyone that the companies are dumping Beck because they saw this:

YouTube - Glenn Beck implies Ron Paul supporters are terrorists

Beck used to piss me off back then. I believe that he has learned a lot since then.

There are plenty of people on this forum who have claimed total transformations in opinion in about the same time-frame as Beck...

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 02:42 PM
actually on the dailypaul there was a cables news ratings post that show hannity and o'reilly still lead beck.

Beck is pulling in higher ratings. I just saw the numbers on FNC a day or two ago.

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 02:43 PM
Just tell everyone that the companies are dumping Beck because they saw this:

YouTube - Glenn Beck implies Ron Paul supporters are terrorists (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rc4OJWH1nE)

Your puritanical views are obsolete.

Sandra
08-11-2009, 02:44 PM
This is probably PR crap hoping to get conservatives to pull together behind Beck. Fox has done it before. OOOOOOO is he gearing up for 9-12?

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 02:47 PM
Check it out here (http://http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/11/765159/-GEICO-pulls-its-ads-from-Glenn-Beck-show)

Apparently Geico has been the next to cave in and switch to other Fox News shows. There were four others a few days ago that came out against Beck. They are switching to other Fox News TV shows.

While Beck sometimes gets out there, at the same time he will host differing conservative views all at once and provides a media market and forum for libertarian ideas to be exposed to the general populace.

Beck has become a huge target. The left is working actively to get him removed. If you don't watch or listen to him then you'll never understand how f'kd up that is. He has 10 million viewers and listeners and he is opposed to what this administration is doing. He is the one who uncovered the ACORN scam. He shows the connections between the chosen Czars and communism, eugenics and more.

If you don't watch his show, then anything you say is uninformed.

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 02:48 PM
This is probably PR crap hoping to get conservatives to pull together behind Beck. Fox has done it before. OOOOOOO is gearing up for 9-12?

Right. It just isn't at all possible that the left could be targeting him. It's all just a diversion for the sheeple right??

I'm getting so sick of people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

Sandra
08-11-2009, 02:50 PM
Right. It just isn't at all possible that the left could be targeting him. It's all just a diversion for the sheeple right??

I'm getting so sick of people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

Take a chill pill sweetie. No one forces you to either read or respond.:rolleyes:

You DO remember what Liberty is , huh?

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 02:51 PM
Take a chill pill sweetie. No one forces you to either read or respond.:rolleyes:

I see you are a copy - cat as well as other things.

Sandra
08-11-2009, 02:54 PM
I see you are a copy - cat as well as other things.

To FORCE people to believe only what you believe is crazy. It violates the reason you claim you're here. If you have to name call and shoutdown anything slightly counter to you OPINION, well....

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 03:02 PM
To FORCE people to believe only what you believe is crazy. It violates the reason you claim you're here. If you have to name call and shoutdown anything slightly counter to you OPINION, well....

Who's twisting your arm Sandra? No one. Get a life.

Lord Xar
08-11-2009, 03:08 PM
Is Sandra stirring the pot again?

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 03:09 PM
Is Sandra stirring the pot again?

I just pulled it off the burner. ;)

Dr.3D
08-11-2009, 03:19 PM
Beck has become a huge target. The left is working actively to get him removed. If you don't watch or listen to him then you'll never understand how f'kd up that is. He has 10 million viewers and listeners and he is opposed to what this administration is doing. He is the one who uncovered the ACORN scam. He shows the connections between the chosen Czars and communism, eugenics and more.

If you don't watch his show, then anything you say is uninformed.

I agree... he was talking about those things today, and how he is being pressured by the left. This doesn't look good for him at all.

Jordan
08-11-2009, 03:25 PM
In my email today...

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Tell FOX News advertisers to cancel their ads:
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Here are some examples of intolerable hate speech and incitement to violence:

6/30/09 Glenn Beck agreed with guest who urged bin Laden to attack U.S. with nuclear
weapons.

7/25/09 Neil Cavuto and guest said health care reform will impose universal
euthanasia like "Soylent Green."

7/28/09 Glenn Beck said "The President has exposed himself as a guy .. who has a
deep-seated hatred for white people ... or the white culture... This man is a
racist."

8/6/09 Glenn Beck "joked" about giving Speaker Pelosi a glass of wine with poison.

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Brita Filter, Broadbive Security, Conservatives for Patients Rights, Ditech
(ditech.com), Forex.com, Golden Corral, Healthy Choice, HSBC Life Insurance, Mens
Warehouse, Mercedes-Benz, Metastock, Nexium, Pepboys, Radio Shack, Rapid Wash, Red
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Dr.3D
08-11-2009, 03:30 PM
In my email today...

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Subject: Boycott FOX News Advertisers

~Snip~
Bob Fertik

That is email from this socialist propaganda site.
h ttp://www.democrats.com/

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 03:32 PM
This looks like libel. Accusing them of inciting violence, etc. Thanks for the posting this.

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 03:34 PM
I recommend people write to these advertisers and urge them NOT to buckle under the pressure.

60Plus.org
AARP Insurance
Accu Chek Aviva
ADT Security
Ally Bank (allybank.com)
Apple
Avodart
Brita Filter
Broadview Security
Conservatives for Patients Rights
Ditech (ditech.com)
Forex.com
Golden Corral
Healthy Choice
HSBC Life Insurance Mens Warehouse
Mercedes-Benz
Metastock
Nexium
Pepboys
Radio Shack
Rapid Bath (not Rapid Wash)
Red Lobster
State Farm
Super8 motels (super8.com)
Superior Gold Group
Travelocity
United Healthcare Insurance
Wall Street Journal
Walmart
Weitz&Luxemburg

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 03:35 PM
That is email from this socialist propaganda site.
h ttp://www.democrats.com/

Apparently they already have 40k petitioners - shooting for 100k

Flash
08-11-2009, 03:39 PM
Anyone watch Beck's show today? Was he implying that Obama is trying to use eugenics?

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 03:44 PM
Haven't watched it yet.

Dr.3D
08-11-2009, 03:50 PM
Anyone watch Beck's show today? Was he implying that Obama is trying to use eugenics?

No that is not what he was implying.

I believe he was showing how in history this type of thing could lead to the use of eugenics. He was stating how if there were a crisis and there were to be a need for rationing of health care, eugenics could happen just as it did in the past.

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 03:54 PM
No that is not what he was implying.

I believe he was showing how in history this type of thing could lead to the use of eugenics. He was stating how if there were a crisis and there were to be a need for rationing of health care, eugenics could happen just as it did in the past.

And he has exposed one of Obama's advisors as a eugenics advocate. Apparently, Rahm Emanuel's brother (who is one of Obama's healthcare reform advisors) has proposed giving preferential treatment to people within the age range of 15 - 40. In the event of necessary rationing, the rest of us are screwed.

Dr.3D
08-11-2009, 04:05 PM
And he has exposed one of Obama's advisors as a eugenics advocate. Apparently, Rahm Emanuel's brother (who is one of Obama's healthcare reform advisors) has proposed giving preferential treatment to people within the age range of 15 - 40. In the event of necessary rationing, the rest of us are screwed.

Yes, and when you put those two things together with the possibility of an upcoming economic crisis, things begin to look pretty bleak if everybody were stuck with government imposed health care.

Sure you can keep your own physician and insurance... at least for till your insurance company is pushed out of business by the government system or mandated to conform to more government regulations. It appears the new health care plan is just a foot in the door to the ultimate one payer system. Video from the past indicates Obama is for a one payer system and he even said it would take some years to accomplish that mission.

Imperial
08-11-2009, 05:09 PM
This is probably PR crap hoping to get conservatives to pull together behind Beck. Fox has done it before. OOOOOOO is he gearing up for 9-12?

No, definitely not. It started on left-leaning blogs to be sure.

BlackTerrel
08-11-2009, 05:41 PM
Perhaps Beck should've thought before his stupid "Barack Obama is racist, he hates white people" comment.

Beck is sometimes ok, but he's also an idiot and a crybaby.

BTW I just realized he spells his name with two N's. I recently met someone named Benn also. WTF?

BlackTerrel
08-11-2009, 05:42 PM
This is probably PR crap hoping to get conservatives to pull together behind Beck. Fox has done it before. OOOOOOO is he gearing up for 9-12?

Probably FoxNews told Geico to stop advertising with Beck so they could improve his ratings. Sounds likely :rolleyes:

Sandra
08-11-2009, 05:53 PM
No, definitely not. It started on left-leaning blogs to be sure.

Because it was a BLOG, it can't be? I can make 10 blogs tonight. Blogs aren't a source.

Elwar
08-11-2009, 06:36 PM
Your puritanical views are obsolete.

My views are puritanical because I don't support someone who was against us when it counted and now acts like they're with us when it doesn't?

Deborah K
08-11-2009, 06:42 PM
My views are puritanical because I don't support someone who was against us when it counted and now acts like they're with us when it doesn't?

It counts now. The guy has 10 million viewers and listeners everyday. Since he is against this administration and its attempt at taking away our sovereignty, I think it would behoove us to capitalize on his 'bully pulpit'.

Standing on principle is one thing, cutting off your nose to spite your face is quite another.

Dr.3D
08-11-2009, 06:53 PM
My views are puritanical because I don't support someone who was against us when it counted and now acts like they're with us when it doesn't?

So Beck isn't allowed to change his mind?

Sandra
08-11-2009, 09:04 PM
It counts now. The guy has 10 million viewers and listeners everyday. Since he is against this administration and its attempt at taking away our sovereignty, I think it would behoove us to capitalize on his 'bully pulpit'.

Standing on principle is one thing, cutting off your nose to spite your face is quite another.

Have you been talking to snakes?

Imperial
08-11-2009, 10:58 PM
Because it was a BLOG, it can't be? I can make 10 blogs tonight. Blogs aren't a source.

No, just because i've been watching the left slowly rising up against Beck (much of it is that the admins on the big leftie sites incite it, but some of it is also home-grown) and I've seen it grow online and take root in the progressive grassroots.

Besides, what publicity are they getting out of it? I haven't seen them get a lick of it. They can get much more encouraging people to take over town halls or propelling the tea party movement or any other plethora of ways to pull on the extremes of an echo-chamber.

BlackTerrel
08-12-2009, 02:58 AM
No, just because i've been watching the left slowly rising up against Beck (much of it is that the admins on the big leftie sites incite it, but some of it is also home-grown) and I've seen it grow online and take root in the progressive grassroots.

The problem is that Beck himself is an idiot. He made the comment knowing full well it would rile people up. Now he gets what he wants. And people get in a line to defend him.

Objectivist
08-12-2009, 04:05 AM
That gives me a reason to watch Beck.:):cool:

nobody's_hero
08-12-2009, 05:05 AM
Your puritanical views are obsolete.

I'll be using that in my signature, if you don't mind. :D

Elwar
08-12-2009, 07:19 AM
It counts now. The guy has 10 million viewers and listeners everyday. Since he is against this administration and its attempt at taking away our sovereignty, I think it would behoove us to capitalize on his 'bully pulpit'.

Standing on principle is one thing, cutting off your nose to spite your face is quite another.

And he didn't have that many viewers when he attacked Ron Paul at the very moment that he needed to be defending him?

And what Republican isn't against this administration?

"The American conservative hates the left more than the state." -Lew Rockwell


And standing on principle is the only thing.

Elwar
08-12-2009, 07:22 AM
So Beck isn't allowed to change his mind?

What has he changed his mind about? Is he now against our empire building?

Just because someone doesn't like Obama doesn't mean that they now like freedom.

Dick Cheney is against Obama too...has he changed his mind as well?

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 07:33 AM
And he didn't have that many viewers when he attacked Ron Paul at the very moment that he needed to be defending him?

And what Republican isn't against this administration?

"The American conservative hates the left more than the state." -Lew Rockwell


And standing on principle is the only thing.

Elwar, by all means, stand on your principles. Let us know what you are doing to fight for freedom. I will always support your efforts because I understand that even though we may disagree on everything else, we at least agree that our country cannot survive if we're not free.

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 07:34 AM
Have you been talking to snakes?

If you're here just to cause problems and be disagreeable, then I, and I'm sure others, will view you as useless to the cause of freedom and a detriment.

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 07:38 AM
The problem is that Beck himself is an idiot. He made the comment knowing full well it would rile people up. Now he gets what he wants. And people get in a line to defend him.

I thought that comment was idiotic. But he isn't the only one who believes that Obama has resentment toward the white community. Obama's misinformed statement at his press conference re: the cop and the professor was also idiotic and it revealed a lot about him. Like it or not.

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 07:38 AM
I'll be using that in my signature, if you don't mind. :D

Go for it. ;)

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 07:40 AM
What has he changed his mind about? Is he now against our empire building?

Just because someone doesn't like Obama doesn't mean that they now like freedom.

Dick Cheney is against Obama too...has he changed his mind as well?

If you don't watch or listen to his shows, then you don't know what you are talking about.

MelissaCato
08-12-2009, 07:52 AM
We need to get Freedom Watch on Cable TV to replace someone ....

Then we will know who's who in America.

What is FOX waiting for ????

Elwar
08-12-2009, 08:14 AM
If you don't watch or listen to his shows, then you don't know what you are talking about.

I do listen to his shows, I used to have a 3 hour commute every day and would listen to his show all the way to work. I only catch the first few minutes now because I finally have a normal commute.

I like that he does a lot of research (well, his excellent staff) on the things that he brings up, beyond just the GOP talking points. But he's said it himself, he wants everyone to come to the center...the land of comprimise and big TV and radio ratings. When socialism is creeping, sure he's great at calling it out...but when freedom is the extreme of the day he'll attack that as well, which is what he did when he saw Ron Paul gaining any sort of popularity. Because heaven forbid, someone like Ron Paul should lead us away from the center and toward the Constituion.

You are treating him like he is treating us...the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Just remember that when the time comes and the enemy is no longer the main threat of the day...we will be his main threat of the day.

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 08:28 AM
I do listen to his shows, I used to have a 3 hour commute every day and would listen to his show all the way to work. I only catch the first few minutes now because I finally have a normal commute.

I like that he does a lot of research (well, his excellent staff) on the things that he brings up, beyond just the GOP talking points. But he's said it himself, he wants everyone to come to the center...the land of comprimise and big TV and radio ratings. When socialism is creeping, sure he's great at calling it out...but when freedom is the extreme of the day he'll attack that as well, which is what he did when he saw Ron Paul gaining any sort of popularity. Because heaven forbid, someone like Ron Paul should lead us away from the center and toward the Constituion.

You are treating him like he is treating us...the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Just remember that when the time comes and the enemy is no longer the main threat of the day...we will be his main threat of the day.

We will be his main threat of the day? How so? Just how will that scenario play out? I really want to know.

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 08:29 AM
We need to get Freedom Watch on Cable TV to replace someone ....

Then we will know who's who in America.

What is FOX waiting for ????

They are waiting for us.

Elwar
08-12-2009, 08:44 AM
We will be his main threat of the day? How so? Just how will that scenario play out? I really want to know.

Ok...picture this scenario...

We run a candidate that is pro-freedom on EVERYTHING, including being against attacking other countries.

Glenn Beck ignores all of the stuff about freedom and immediately starts attacking us as traitors and terrorists because we support someone who doesn't want to attack other countries.

It might look something like this:

YouTube - Glenn Beck implies Ron Paul supporters are terrorists (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rc4OJWH1nE)

Cowlesy
08-12-2009, 08:49 AM
Elwar I completely agree about that old clip being a low blow against us. Since then, Beck has has Ron Paul on his show countless times, interviewed Rand Paul on his radio show, had Campaign for Liberty supporters on, let Judge Napolitano turn his show into Freedom Watch when he guest-hosts, had Michael Scheuer on (Paul's former foreign policy adviser) and has even admitted himself he's leaning more toward the libertarian view of war policy (though he's got a long way to go).

The last few shows I've watched with him, he's been blasting the left with both barrels and their bologna.

It will be a net-loss to spreading the message if the left forces Beck off the air.

angelatc
08-12-2009, 08:52 AM
Ok...picture this scenario...

We run a candidate that is pro-freedom on EVERYTHING, including being against attacking other countries.

Glenn Beck ignores all of the stuff about freedom and immediately starts attacking us as traitors and terrorists because we support someone who doesn't want to attack other countries.

It might look something like this:


Didn't he have Ron Paul on for a full hour after that through?

And then he had Michael Scheuer on, too.

I don't watch him, but this is politics. Everybody's dirty.

MsDoodahs
08-12-2009, 08:53 AM
It will be a net-loss to spreading the message if the left forces Beck off the air.

And that is the left's goal.

angelatc
08-12-2009, 08:54 AM
Elwar I completely agree about that old clip being a low blow against us. Since then, Beck has has Ron Paul on his show countless times, interviewed Rand Paul on his radio show, had Campaign for Liberty supporters on, let Judge Napolitano turn his show into Freedom Watch when he guest-hosts, had Michael Scheuer on (Paul's former foreign policy adviser) and has even admitted himself he's leaning more toward the libertarian view of war policy (though he's got a long way to go).

The last few shows I've watched with him, he's been blasting the left with both barrels and their bologna.

It will be a net-loss to spreading the message if the left forces Beck off the air.

Exactly. He's either pandering (which I'll happily settle for) or he is listening. No matter what he's done in the past, he's our best ally right now.

angelatc
08-12-2009, 08:54 AM
And that is the left's goal.


It's literally right out of Alinsky's playbook.

Cowlesy
08-12-2009, 08:55 AM
Frankly he just channeled what I think everytime I come back from a weekend trip. You get away from the internet, relax and spend time with friends/family....you come in on Monday morning and catch up on stuff...and by the end of the week, you're fatigued by all the shitty news.

Elwar
08-12-2009, 09:10 AM
The last few shows I've watched with him, he's been blasting the left with both barrels and their bologna.


So is Hannity now our ally as well? He likes attacking the left...he called himself a libertarian...

He has more listeners than G.B...why not jump on his bandwagon?

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 09:13 AM
So is Hannity now our ally as well? He likes attacking the left...he called himself a libertarian...

He has more listeners than G.B...why not jump on his bandwagon?

Do you like being disagreeable, or do you think you will change minds? Or better yet, do you have a better strategy to get our message out as quickly as he is?

Cowlesy
08-12-2009, 09:14 AM
So is Hannity now our ally as well? He likes attacking the left...he called himself a libertarian...

He has more listeners than G.B...why not jump on his bandwagon?

I was never speaking of jumping on Beck's bandwagon. Does Hannity have any of the long list of people I posted above? I don't think so.

angelatc
08-12-2009, 09:18 AM
So is Hannity now our ally as well? He likes attacking the left...he called himself a libertarian...

He has more listeners than G.B...why not jump on his bandwagon?

I see where you're confused. We're not jumping onto his bandwagon...he is getting people to at least look at our bandwagon.

Elwar
08-12-2009, 09:20 AM
Do you like being disagreeable, or do you think you will change minds? Or better yet, do you have a better strategy to get our message out as quickly as he is?

I'm not being disagreeable for disagreement's sake. I'm just tired of everybody thinking that comprimise works. That's what gave us McCain (maybe if we elect a liberal Republican then the Democrats will vote for him).

I just don't trust Glenn Beck. He has been in the business for over 30 years and now all of a sudden when it's too late he supports libertarians?

The Ron Paul campaign did one thing for us...it showed us who our friends are. And Glenn Beck isn't on that list.

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 09:24 AM
I'm not being disagreeable for disagreement's sake. I'm just tired of everybody thinking that comprimise works. That's what gave us McCain (maybe if we elect a liberal Republican then the Democrats will vote for him).

I just don't trust Glenn Beck. He has been in the business for over 30 years and now all of a sudden when it's too late he supports libertarians?

The Ron Paul campaign did one thing for us...it showed us who our friends are. And Glenn Beck isn't on that list.

Are you always so harsh and unyielding with everyone who pisses you off or does you wrong? I believe in forgiving people if they are genuine in their repentance. Beck has evolved. Dr. Paul's message got through. It's obvious that it has. Is he another Dr. Paul? Oh hell no! Is he helping us get the message out? HELL YES!

I truly do hope that you are never on the receiving end of your own harshness.

angelatc
08-12-2009, 09:27 AM
I'm not being disagreeable for disagreement's sake. I'm just tired of everybody thinking that comprimise works. That's what gave us McCain (maybe if we elect a liberal Republican then the Democrats will vote for him).

I just don't trust Glenn Beck. He has been in the business for over 30 years and now all of a sudden when it's too late he supports libertarians?



If you think it's too late, why are you even here? Why are you trying to discourage people from supporting people who are talking about libertarian principles?

Elwar
08-12-2009, 09:41 AM
If you think it's too late, why are you even here? Why are you trying to discourage people from supporting people who are talking about libertarian principles?

What libertarian principles has he talked about? Other than "I hate liberals".

Support him all you want, just as you might want to keep a rattlesnake as a pet...just don't be surprised when he bites you.

If he supports Rand and Schiff when it actually counts in 2010, I'll be one of his biggest supporters.

Sandra
08-12-2009, 10:10 AM
What libertarian principles has he talked about? Other than "I hate liberals".

Support him all you want, just as you might want to keep a rattlesnake as a pet...just don't be surprised when he bites you.

If he supports Rand and Schiff when it actually counts in 2010, I'll be one of his biggest supporters.

I agree, his stance on the war says it all. I still think this is a lead up to his 9-12 event.

Objectivist
08-12-2009, 02:43 PM
That gives me a reason to watch Beck.:):cool:

Oh goody.... Beck's on!:)

Objectivist
08-12-2009, 02:47 PM
Ok...picture this scenario...

We run a candidate that is pro-freedom on EVERYTHING, including being against attacking other countries.

Glenn Beck ignores all of the stuff about freedom and immediately starts attacking us as traitors and terrorists because we support someone who doesn't want to attack other countries.

It might look something like this:

YouTube - Glenn Beck implies Ron Paul supporters are terrorists (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rc4OJWH1nE)

Strawman video. get with current information and watch Beck once and awhile.
You'll find him on Fox now.

tonesforjonesbones
08-12-2009, 03:34 PM
I'd like to know how many times sandra has watched glenn becks' show this month. tones

Sandra
08-12-2009, 03:36 PM
I'd like to know how many times sandra has watched glenn becks' show this month. tones

Quite a lot.

emazur
08-12-2009, 03:39 PM
What libertarian principles has he talked about?
Auditing the Fed:
YouTube - Beck: Fed undergoing legalized counterfitting, needs audit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMum0LO_ZF0)
Abolishing the Fed:
YouTube - Glenn Beck: The Fed needs to be shut down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm3QRPy3Qaw)
Beck on voting for libertarians (Oct '08):

GLENN: Boy, coming from a libertarian Republican. That's what you need to be voting for. Boy, you could say that again. It's time for the libertarians to really start taking a hold, choking the bat snot out of those votes in congress.
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/16704/
He also wants to dismantle the American empire (though slowly), there was a youtube video but it's gone now

BlackTerrel
08-12-2009, 04:51 PM
I thought that comment was idiotic. But he isn't the only one who believes that Obama has resentment toward the white community. Obama's misinformed statement at his press conference re: the cop and the professor was also idiotic and it revealed a lot about him. Like it or not.

To claim that Obama is racist is idiotic. This is why Beck is in the trouble he is.

Flash
08-12-2009, 05:07 PM
Beck's show today was pretty good. Lots of Federal Reserve talk.


To claim that Obama is racist is idiotic. This is why Beck is in the trouble he is.

Nah, he's definently a racist. He supported Gates without question. And from the story I've heard, gates was acting childish and refusing to show his ID.

Plus like I said before-- Obama never condemned the attorney general's comments calling Americans a nation of cowards on race issues.

Deborah K
08-12-2009, 05:47 PM
To claim that Obama is racist is idiotic. This is why Beck is in the trouble he is.

Why is it idiotic? Blacks can't be racist? Or just Obama can't be, because he's half white? :confused:

Cowlesy
08-12-2009, 06:02 PM
Olbermann going after Glenn Beck after the break about loss of advertising.

Objectivist
08-12-2009, 07:29 PM
To claim that Obama is racist is idiotic. This is why Beck is in the trouble he is.

Really? Did you pull that out of your ass or was your head in the way?

Here's Obama's mouthpiece giving a different version of reality, I've got more if this isn't entertaining enough.

YouTube - Lou Dobbs on Robert Riech "No White Construction Workers" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duQDVTczGbA)
YouTube - Robert Reich on white construction workers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCp7U1f8lv8)

BlackTerrel
08-13-2009, 02:06 AM
Gates is his friend, and the cops did act stupidly. They arrested a man in his own home. That's BS.

BlackTerrel
08-13-2009, 02:08 AM
Why is it idiotic? Blacks can't be racist? Or just Obama can't be, because he's half white? :confused:

Have I ever said that blacks can't be racist? No - in fact I've condemned racist blacks on this forum. I happen to know some very racist black people that are Nation of Islam. Obama ain't one - his record speaks for itself.

Deborah K
08-13-2009, 10:28 AM
Have I ever said that blacks can't be racist? No - in fact I've condemned racist blacks on this forum. I happen to know some very racist black people that are Nation of Islam. Obama ain't one - his record speaks for itself.

Of that you are right! Remember that you wrote that!

Deborah K
08-13-2009, 10:29 AM
Gates is his friend, and the cops did act stupidly. They arrested a man in his own home. That's BS.

Right, and the Professor didn't act like an elitist asshole, did he?

BlackTerrel
08-13-2009, 12:55 PM
Right, and the Professor didn't act like an elitist asshole, did he?

Perhaps. But the cops still acted stupidly.

Cowlesy
08-13-2009, 01:24 PM
Perhaps. But the cops still acted stupidly.

hah I'll give you credit, you are the jedi master of thread de-railers.

I happen to agree with you that the cop acted stupidly. He should have just swallowed his pride and let that douchebag socialist professor scream at him on his lawn.

Idiots on both sides.

BlackTerrel
08-13-2009, 07:14 PM
I'm 100% on topic. Beck was out of line, now he's suffering for it. Free markets and all that.

He could have easily attacked Obama on the issues and avoided the entire "Obama hates white people" nonsense and been fine.

RM918
08-13-2009, 08:58 PM
If you can get arrested for acting like an elitist asshole, we're fucked.

SouthGeorgia61
08-15-2009, 02:24 AM
Glenn Beck has said some really stupid things, but I think he is a good guy who is coming around. It isn't just propoganda, if you watch his show you can tell the guy does his research, he digs deep into issues that no one else even touches.

He is digging up great info about healthcare that no one else is touching. Beck is the one who is continually bringing up Emanuel's quotes about healthcare rationing, no one else on TV but Beck is doing this.

And he is 100% against the Fed, he has talked about ending our empire slowly over 30 years, he has talked about possible legalizing drugs, and he has at times talked about how he now feels uneasy about the Patriot Act.

Also, about a week ago he had Schiff on and said "god bless you sir", and today he had Rand on and said that "i feel you are one of the few politicians I can trust". So he seems to be embracing folks like Rand and Peter. He is actually having libertarians and true conservatives on his show.

Sure he is eccentric, and sometimes he says stupid things, but I don't see why we can't give the benefit of the doubt to Beck.

Flash
08-15-2009, 03:40 PM
Now that Beck is on vacation I think the boycott will begin dying down. Just my opinion :\

StateofTrance
08-18-2009, 03:56 PM
haha fuck Glenn Beck - he had no respect for Dr. Paul and never will...He's only for the $$ and fame.

StateofTrance
08-18-2009, 03:57 PM
>> and today he had Rand on and said that "i feel you are one of the few politicians I can trust"

A line that he uses most of the time. You really think he was genuine from the core when he said that? He's a snake.

Flash
08-18-2009, 03:58 PM
If anyone wants to boycott the companies that have dropped Beck, just follow this link and begin sending off emails:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2270431&postcount=24