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anaconda
08-10-2009, 01:05 PM
Apparently the only people angry about socialized health care are "right wing extremists:"


Dear MoveOn member,

It's getting ugly out there.

All across the country, right-wing extremists are disrupting congressional town-hall meetings with venomous attacks on President Obama's plans for health care.

* Last night in Tampa, Florida, a town hall meeting erupted into violence, with the police being called to break up fist fights and shoving matches.1
* A Texas Democrat was shouted down by right-wing hecklers, many of whom admitted they didn't even live in his district.2
* One North Carolina representative announced he wouldn't be holding any town-hall meetings after his office began receiving death threats.3
* And in Maryland, protesters hung a Democratic congressman in effigy to oppose health-care reform.4

We've got a plan to fight back against these radical right-wingers. We've hired skilled grassroots organizers who are working with thousands of local volunteers to show Congress that ordinary Americans continue to support President Obama's agenda for change. And we're building new online tools to track events across the country and make sure MoveOn members turn out at each one.

But we need to scale up our efforts quickly to make sure this plan works. Can you chip in $35 to support our work?

https://pol.moveon.org/donate/aug_healthcare.html?id=16768-8541464-4ucNi3x&t=5
If the shouts of the right-wing mobs are the only voices our senators and representatives hear over the recess, we'll have a hard time passing health care reform.

That's why we're launching our Heat Up Congress campaign so quickly to fight back, using new technology to implement rapid response town hall turnout, organizing personal phone calls from small business leaders and donors to their representatives, running new ads, and activating an energized network of on-the-ground organizers and volunteers.

This month could decide the future of health care in America—and we're already one week in. If you've been sitting on the sidelines, now's the time to get involved. Talk to your neighbors, go to a town hall meeting—and today, please chip in $35 to support our work:

https://pol.moveon.org/donate/aug_healthcare.html?id=16768-8541464-4ucNi3x&t=7

Thanks for all you do.

–Justin, Matt, Nita, Kat and the rest of the team

Sources:
1. "Tampa Town Hall On Health Care Reform Disrupted By Violence," The Huffington Post, August 6, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51727&id=16768-8541464-4ucNi3x&t=9

2. "Local Fox Reporter Attends Town Hall And Finds 'Some Attendees Admit They Don't Live In The District,'" Think Progress, August 4, 2009
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/04/gene-green-townhall/

3. "Dem Congressman's Office: His Life Has Been Threatened Over Health Care Bill," Talking Points Memo, August 5, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51724&id=16768-8541464-4ucNi3x&t=10

4. "The Danger Over the Right's Anger," Politico, August 3, 2009.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=51726&id=16768-8541464-4ucNi3x&t=11

Want to support our work? We're entirely funded by our 5 million members—no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here.

AbolishTheGovt
08-10-2009, 01:11 PM
Every libertarian ought to read "How To Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie, and they'd understand why shouting and angry protesting will never get us what we want.

muh_roads
08-10-2009, 01:11 PM
moveon.org, as with most democrats fail at economics and don't understand the implications this will have. they fail at recognizing what is driving up costs.

Romulus
08-10-2009, 01:26 PM
We've hired skilled grassroots organizers..

That's the funniest part. lol

anaconda
08-10-2009, 01:31 PM
Every libertarian ought to read "How To Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie, and they'd understand why shouting and angry protesting will never get us what we want.

How many in Cambodia or Stalinist Russia read that book?

kahless
08-10-2009, 01:33 PM
How many in Cambodia or Stalinist Russia read that book?

+1

Feenix566
08-10-2009, 01:39 PM
We've hired skilled grassroots organizers

Isn't that exactly what they're accusing the Republicans of doing?

They admitted it it right there in the email!

anaconda
08-10-2009, 01:54 PM
We've hired skilled grassroots organizers..
That's the funniest part. lol
Reply With Quote


"We've hired skilled grassroots organizers"


Isn't that a Non sequitur?

dannno
08-10-2009, 02:00 PM
"We've hired skilled grassroots organizers"


Isn't that a Non sequitur?

Sounds like astroturf.

The dems are so hypocritical on this it absolutely amazes me.

One of my closest friends and I have been having shouting e-mail matches over this. He thinks the right wing protests against Obama are all setup by the big corporations....

ItsTime
08-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Sounds like astroturf.

The dems are so hypocritical on this it absolutely amazes me.

One of my closest friends and I have been having shouting e-mail matches over this. He thinks the right wing protests against Obama are all setup by the big corporations....

Conspiracy theorists

AbolishTheGovt
08-10-2009, 02:04 PM
How many in Cambodia or Stalinist Russia read that book?

Apparently not enough, because they didn't get what they wanted.

Valli6
08-10-2009, 02:28 PM
Calling town hall protesters astoturf!
This in addition to the "Organizing for America" people
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/obamaforamerica/gGMPmC
I wonder what other paid "grassroots" organizations are making plans.
Truly disgusting.

angelatc
08-10-2009, 02:28 PM
Every libertarian ought to read "How To Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie, and they'd understand why shouting and angry protesting will never get us what we want.

That would be easier to swallow if the socialists didn't successfully use shouting and angry protesting to get what they want.

angelatc
08-10-2009, 02:31 PM
Isn't that exactly what they're accusing the Republicans of doing?

They admitted it it right there in the email!

Yes, and they advertised on Craigslist, too. $600 a week for supporting Obamacare (http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2009/08/600-per-week-to-show-up-and-support-obamacare.html)

Brooklyn Red Leg
08-10-2009, 05:46 PM
That would be easier to swallow if the socialists didn't successfully use shouting and angry protesting to get what they want.

We need to be more worried about the club-wielding thugs that will be at the town hall meetings soon enough. If its not the jackbooted thugs in blue, it'll be SEIU 'purple shirt' goonsquads.

Working Poor
08-10-2009, 06:59 PM
here is a email I got from AlterNet


Dear Reader,

What do Rupert Murdoch, Senator Jim DeMint, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, anti-choice zealot Randall Terry and health-care industry executives have in common? They all want to kill health-care reform.

But you knew that.

What you didn't know -- until AlterNet uncovered it in an explosive article published today -- is the extremes to which they will go to achieve that aim.

I rarely send special reader alerts, but I'm making an exception today, because this story is so important.

In a new article published today, AlterNet's Washington Bureau Chief Adele Stan uncovers the links between establishment GOP figures and an extreme-right Web network, Grassfire.org, that is an organizing hub for town-hall protesters. While other astroturf organizations and Web sites, like Dick Armey's FreedomWorks, Tim Scott's Americans for Prosperity or Glenn Beck's The 912 Project, marshal the anti-tax mob, Grassfire, through its sibling site, ResistNet, rallies the most extreme of the paranoid right.

In "Inside Story on Town Hall Riots: Right-Wing Shock Troops Do Corporate America's Dirty Work", Stan chronicles the ties between the Republican establishment and ResistNet, where one finds not only the usual set of conspiracy theories, but also threats of violence against the opposition, a videoed racist screed against President Obama and even a prayer for the death of the president. The coup de grace is a slickly produced video posted on the site that uses Nazi imagery casting Obama as the Fuhrer. (The video is embedded in the AlterNet piece.)

Stan draws together the conflagration of corporate and GOP interests that have coordinated to unleash the unhinged fringe to disrupt the nation's civic dialogue, tracing pieces of the narrative back to Howard Phillips, one of the founders of the religious right, who served in the Nixon administration. She examines the tactics of the Republican right's "inside-outside" strategy, using as a model Phillips' theocratic Constitution Party, to which Sarah Palin has ties.

You knew it was bad. AlterNet's must-read article tells you just how bad it really is.

Don Hazen
Don Hazen
Executive Editor, AlterNet.org

angelatc
08-10-2009, 07:32 PM
That's the funniest part. lol

You and I have a different sense of humor. They're fighting back hard.

Standing Like A Rock
08-11-2009, 12:33 AM
Whats all this about a congressman being hung in effigy? This is the second place I have seen this from.

max
08-11-2009, 02:05 AM
Every libertarian ought to read "How To Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie, and they'd understand why shouting and angry protesting will never get us what we want.

For debating with friends, family etc, yes...i agree with you. Dale carnegie's book would be useful.

But when you are dealing with lying criminal scum like Obama and your local Congress critter, persuasion and civility are useless on their kind.