Peter Schiff on THE ED SHOW

[Ron_Paul_For_Connecticut]

Peter Schiff will be a guest on MSNBC "THE ED SHOW" tonight (Thursday, August 6) at 6 PM. Be sure to tune in and support Peter!

[MRoCkEd]

uh oh... I wonder how that will turn out

YouTube - Ed Shultz vs. Ron Paul 5-20-09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfuvndfA1jw)

[Kludge]

.... Good luck, Peter.

[Epic]

Oh man this is gonna be intense

There is gonna be a lot of talking over each other.

[Young Paleocon]

RP kick some major ass in his interview, I thought it really couldn't have gone better.

[pahs1994]

This will be good practice for debating Dodd or whoever else later on. I can't wait to see him pick this guy apart

[dannno]

I predict......








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[Umbro2914]

Ed never had Paul back on, now did he...

[dr. hfn]

on boy! i can't wait!

[Jeremy]

TV's smartest commentator on the show of TV's stupidest host? What will happen...

[Chieftain1776]

Wow. MSNBC really is an operation of the DNC. When Ron Paul was on Morning Joe and said he wanted to get rid of federal departments "Special Ed" put him in his psycho talk segment after Carlos set him up on Morning Joe as a "radical".

I think they're trying to do the same with Peter Schiff. Special Ed is going to bring up his Medicare comments and try to paint him as trying to throw the elderly in the street. This is exactly what happened with Ron Paul. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2127008#post2127008) Watch out Peter!

[Chieftain1776]

Looks like the O'Donnell/Schiff (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=204000) debate is going to be moved up!

[Chieftain1776]

If I were Peter I'd emphasize my anti-war views to fish for donations from The Ed Show crowd

[MsDoodahs]

That sonofabitch is railroading Peter.

Someone let Peter know that when Obamabot shows like this one have him on, PETER NEEDS TO STAND UP AND WALK OFF THE FUCKING SET.

Period.

End of story.

That vile bastard interviewing him, who in the fuck is that rude bastard?

I am screaming at the television. lol

[ClayTrainor]

That sonofabitch is railroading Peter.

Someone let Peter know that when Obamabot shows like this one have him on, PETER NEEDS TO STAND UP AND WALK OFF THE FUCKING SET.

Period.

End of story.

That vile bastard interviewing him, who in the fuck is that rude bastard?

I am screaming at the television. lol

is peter holding his own?

[MsDoodahs]

Bill got so damned mad that he made me turn it off.

[Kludge]

Damn, I missed all but the last few seconds. Ed didn't look too happy.

[ClayTrainor]

Sounds like an entertaining interview, I can't wait for the Tube :D

[TheState]

So everyone who wanted to punch the host in the face during the interview raise your hand...

::raises hand::

[dr. hfn]

R u fucking me!?!? Wtf was that shit?!!?

[pahs1994]

he just kept cutting him off and putting words in his mouth and makeing crazy claims that he thinks seniors in CT are lazy. That guy is a fucking asshole

[Chieftain1776]

Told you he was a shill (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2249413&postcount=4). An "effective" one.

[2young2vote]

I think i understood maybe 25% of that..i can't understand two people yelling at once.

[Kotin]

tube FTW

[Jeremy Tyler]

That was bullshit, he wouldn't let peter talk at all. The only time he could talk the guy would just state that peter said something else, total nonsense.

[mtj458]

I thought that was pretty good actually. I mean you'd to be a complete idiot not to realize that the host was completely misinterpreting everything Peter said. He never actually debunked any of it.

[MsDoodahs]

is peter holding his own?

Hell no.

Peter let that sorry sonofabitch walk all over him.

Or at least in the part I was able to SEE, that is what was happeneing.

Bill says - and I agree with the first part - that THIS is why we can't get liberty candidates elected and we never will.

Bill says: We need INCREMENTALISM. Elect their boys that are slightly more like our views, slowly slowly slowly get more and more of these types in, and that will produce - slowly slowly slowly the shift to liberty.

I realize that might work, but I think the system is already too far gone, I responded that I think it is too late for his suggestion - he says it's too early - to manage to get in solid liberty candidates. And that is why we must go with the incremental approach.

I dunno if the country will hold together long enough for us to pull it off....

[dr. hfn]

how do people support this shit show?!?!?!

Lets send angry emails! And letters! And Utubes!

[pahs1994]

MSNBC is the biggest pile of shit channel on the planet. It officially takes FOX's place in my book. With Olbermann, Ed and whoever the fuck this guy is I cannot take listening to the station without wanting to put my fist in the goddamn screen
/rant

[dr. hfn]

Hell no.

Peter let that sorry sonofabitch walk all over him.

Or at least in the part I was able to SEE, that is what was happeneing.

Bill says - and I agree with the first part - that THIS is why we can't get liberty candidates elected and we never will.

Bill says: We need INCREMENTALISM. Elect their boys that are slightly more like our views, slowly slowly slowly get more and more of these types in, and that will produce - slowly slowly slowly the shift to liberty.

I realize that might work, but I think the system is already too far gone, I responded that I think it is too late for his suggestion - he says it's too early - to manage to get in solid liberty candidates. And that is why we must go with the incremental approach.

I dunno if the country will hold together long enough for us to pull it off....

I think Glenn Beck believes in incrementalism too, i like him for becoming more libertarian all the time

[JoshLowry]

This will most likely encourage Peter to want to run. Fuel for his fire.

It also makes people want to donate when they see shill bullshit.

Donate tomorrow! Give em some blowback!

[Chieftain1776]

Peter needs to do his research. Obama is considering the same thing (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/us/politics/15health.html).

[Kludge]

how do people support this shit show?!?!?!

Lets send angry emails! And letters! And Utubes!

I doubt it will help.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=193643

[MsDoodahs]

Angry letters won't do SHIT.

MSNBC is owned by GE, GE is run by Immelt, Immelt is one of Obama's close advisors, the whole network is nothing but GARBAGE.

[dr. hfn]

Peter Schiff...Fuck Ya! Here to save the motherfucking day now! Peter Schiff...Fuk Ya!

I'm donating a shit ton now!

[Chieftain1776]

I should add that he ran the most attack ads in election history against McCain using O'Donnell's tax fabrications as the center piece.

[Jason T]

Schiff should have accused him of using Bill O'Reilly interview tactics, I think that's the only thing that would've shut him up.

[dannno]

i predict......








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ftw

[dr. hfn]

This show bears no semblance to responsible reporting or journalism.

[Chieftain1776]

and whoever the fuck this guy is

Here's some background:


Yeah he just needs to have it in "soundbites" which is actually one of his strengths. Unfortunately it's also O'Donnell's as well. O'Donnell is so much of a hack that he was a chief writer for "West Wing". West Wing was basically a homage to the goodness of left liberals. Not to mention a successful propaganda piece.

Like O'Donnell, West Wing was really well done, even incorporating opposition arguments, but leaves the viewer with the result that "Hey we looked at the ideas, ours are just obviously right, good and the only reasonable alternative". http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2249429&postcount=8


and


O'Donnell is a DNC attack dog and therefore does not have a ounce of credibility as a commentator. MSNBC probably put him on to start his ranting-yelling schtick so they could use a sound bite against Schiff to help the Dodd campaign.

He was also the Democratic Chief of Staff of the US Senate Committee on Finance from 1993 through 1995. In 1992, he was Chief of Staff of the United States Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2249454&postcount=9

The good thing is that he probably faced the most toughest debate he'll ever face. Simmons (his GOP primary opponent) and Dodd aren't half a intelligent (despite his evil... he's shrewd) as O'Donnell.

[Metal Militia]

Anyone got a video yet?

[Chieftain1776]

Anyone got a video yet?

I have no way of doing it. It replays at 3:00am EST if someone wants to set their recorder.

[dr. hfn]

i am so pissed off

[StudentForPaul08]

i am so pissed off

same, I hated that guy. He was just on to twist and smear Peter, he had no real thoughts about the economic philosophy behind rising prices, particular health care.

[Chieftain1776]

One argument we don't use- and should- when we talk about senior entitlements:

How is it moral for a 65 year who has had their whole life to pay for their retirement and health insurance to force a 18 or 22 year old, usually drowned in education debt to support the statistically more wealthy seniors? That, to me, is more immoral. The poorer seniors can enroll in state program if they lack the means (after 40+ years of time to prepare!).

[eok321]

Vid..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32321990#32321990

[Epic]

He wouldn't let Schiff talk.

This is so much shit.

Schiff did okay though when he was able to talk freely.

[Chieftain1776]

Vid..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32321990#32321990

For future reference, how did you find it on the webpage?

[No1ButPaul08]

One argument we don't use- and should- when we talk about senior entitlements:

How is it moral for a 65 year who has had their whole life to pay for their retirement and health insurance to force a 18 or 22 year old, usually drowned in education debt to support the statistically more wealthy seniors? That, to me, is more immoral. The poorer seniors can enroll in state program if they lack the means (after 40+ years of time to prepare!).

Good point. What about the person whose family history doesn't suggest they'll make it to 65. Work their whole life, contribute to the system, die at 60 and never get a dime out of it.

[Epic]

Good point. What about the person whose family history doesn't suggest they'll make it to 65. Work their whole life, contribute to the system, die at 60 and never get a dime out of it.

Government doesn't care about people. Always remember that.

[eok321]

For future reference, how did you find it on the webpage?

just went to msnbc,clicked msnbc-tv at the top, clicked on the ed show-then latest vids (labelled as "dems fear healthcare debate")


It really was an appalling interview.. In fairness peter handled it well by just laughing at the interviewer when he kept interupting.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

This is why liberty candidates (and potential ones) shouldn't even bother going on political assassination shows like this. Screw the coverage, it just isn't worth it. Creeps like Ed are nothing but traps.

[TortoiseDream]

what the fuck was that? that was one of the worst interviews i have EVER seen.

[Chieftain1776]

I just re-watched it. Obviously it's not too hard to understand why private schools are more expensive than going to public schools: If you're forced to pay for a school once you, um, go to the public school you're already paying for :rolleyes: Only the wealthy who can afford the price of private schools will be charged the high price of private schools. Idiot.

He also contradicted himself blatantly on tuition: @4:30 he acknowledges--with pride-- the "massive subsidies we give to college students to go to school" and then @5:20 he says "it's such a small sliver of what goes into it."

What... A.... Hack

[iddo]

Guys don't be so touchy, Peter did a good job with this shouting clown :)

[Chieftain1776]

just went to msnbc,clicked msnbc-tv at the top, clicked on the ed show-then latest vids (labelled as "dems fear healthcare debate")


It really was an appalling interview.. In fairness peter handled it well by just laughing at the interviewer when he kept interupting.

Thanks. I used to rely on specific show pages...good stuff.

[Chieftain1776]

Guys don't be so touchy, Peter did a good job with this shouting clown :)

Yeah, as I re-watched it, O'Donnell did come off as a "shouting clown". I guess I'm a dork and got particularly offended by the intellectual arguments. O'Donnell just came off as a left-wing jerk. Certainly won't hurt in a Republican primary ;)

[JK/SEA]

Schiff did good.

[Stary Hickory]

Well so what? Peter Schiff went on some asshole's show and the asshole acted like an asshole. Lets put this behind this and bomb the shit out of Peter's new site tomorrow. That will shut Ed up.

[reagle]

The host of the show made a fool of himself. Peter Schiff did good during the parts where he was able to speak.

[BuddyRey]

I know there's already a video on MSNBC, but is a YouTube up yet?

If it's as bad as people are saying, I don't ever want to give another ounce of traffic to their site.

[MsDoodahs]

I am afraid to watch the whole thing. I'll take y'all's word for it that Peter did better after the first little bit that I was able to see.

[ClayTrainor]

Wow, that was one of the most disgraceful, bias'd interviews i've ever witnessed.

[josh.schisler]

hahahahaha

This is the Rush Limbaugh of democrats.

[scoot87]

YouTube - 8/6/2009 Peter Schiff On The Ed Show: An MSNBC Hit Piece On Peter Schiff? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ3tCeBaNik)

[BuddyRey]

WTF!?!?! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Time to shoot off an angry email to MSNBC.

[kushaze]

sorry

[ctiger2]

I think that the interview went well for Schiff. It pissed me off enough to double the amount of money I was planning on donating tomorrow.

Yea, I think he did pretty well too considering the guy wouldn't even let him talk. :)

[nelsonwinters]

I think that the interview went well for Schiff. It pissed me off enough to double the amount of money I was planning on donating tomorrow.

What he said.

[dannno]

Guys don't be so touchy, Peter did a good job with this shouting clown :)

Ya, it was a train wreck, but ED's train crashed and Peter's came out of it OK some how.

Great job, Peter Schiff.. that Ed guy is really something else.

[0zzy]

Ya, it was a train wreck, but ED's train crashed and Peter's came out of it OK some how.

Great job, Peter Schiff.. that Ed guy is really something else.

rofl, you guys don't even know what you are talking about. That's not even Ed, that's a guest host (the one from Morning Joe, and Joe said those two should debate it later on the Morning Joe - well I guess some producer got the bright idea to do it later today instead)

[SimpleName]

Schiff is missing that good ol' Ron Paul edge that I remember seeing on that trashy Morton Downey program from 88 which sparked up again on the past ED show. He can't give these scummy, paid-off (literally, GE pays him) establishment hacks the ability to walk all over him like that. I've found this to be a key in any political run since we are fighting up against such a motivated, driven opposition. Those running need to be stern and strong in debate even if the fool they are debating is trying to run them down. Schiff should've just kept talking no matter what the idiot was saying until the other guy stopped. Instead Peter found himself stumbling and throwing "No" in every two seconds. GOD! These frickin MSNBC jackoffs drive me nuts. I wish someone would point out these guy's tactics are worse than Bill O'Reilly's, the grand master of interruption and distortion. Faux news hasn't looked so good in so very long. And watching that network is like shoving forks through your eyes.

[Ian A.]

I disagree with everyone here, I thought the interview was GREAT!!

I also think Peter held his own quite well and gave great answers. I think most people watching Lawrence's rants would agree that he was being unfair and rude. Peter being able to debate EYE-TO-EYE with someone who looks like this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EtpvqTC_hSA/R1rfLAyRn1I/AAAAAAAAAAU/6yMflfgEpOA/s320/O%27Donell.jpg

Goes to show how great he could be in the official debates! :eek:

Being grilled and holding ground, while giving good responses, AND KEEPING YOUR COOL can help you in the long run. Think about it. What would Peter's opponents do if they had a video of Peter getting really angry????

The same thing the Republicans are doing to Jack Conway (One of the many choices for Senate in KY):

YouTube - Jack Conway: The Faces of Jack Conway (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZj6H_3C4gw&feature=related)

[Njon]

Time to shoot off an angry email to MSNBC.

Don't bother with MSNBC; go straight to the top and e-mail General Electric at https://www.ge.com/contact/contact_form.html (choose "Products & Services" and then "Media & Entertainment"). Let them know that they would do well to cancel The Ed Show and replace it with something that promotes journalistic integrity

[Michael P]

It really wasn't bad. The host tried to bait Peter over and over and Peter wouldn't fall for it and kept his cool. The host got very frustrated. Peter kept firing right up until they cut away. If I were an independent I may be curious to hear what Peter was actually trying to say.

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Peter did better than Ron did last time he was on Ed's show, though I expected Peter to put this guy down a little better than he did.

[jclay2]

What the heck was with Peter trying to reduce income taxes and tax healthcare benefits to make revenue neutral. This is not something I want to see from him. Revenue neutral! Are you freaking kidding me! Can someone explain this? I am seriously thinking about not donating after that comment.

[dr. hfn]

Don't bother with MSNBC; go straight to the top and e-mail General Electric at https://www.ge.com/contact/contact_form.html (choose "Products & Services" and then "Media & Entertainment"). Let them know that they would do well to cancel The Ed Show and replace it with something that promotes journalistic integrity

good idea!

[CUnknown]

What the heck was with Peter trying to reduce income taxes and tax healthcare benefits to make revenue neutral. This is not something I want to see from him. Revenue neutral! Are you freaking kidding me! Can someone explain this? I am seriously thinking about not donating after that comment.

Really? He doesn't want to run deeper deficits, you know. And if you tax healthcare instead of income, that helps market forces to work as he was trying to explain. I'd like to hear a more detailed explanation of this, but it didn't sound bad to me so far.

[jclay2]

Really? He doesn't want to run deeper deficits, you know. And if you tax healthcare instead of income, that helps market forces to work as he was trying to explain. I'd like to hear a more detailed explanation of this, but it didn't sound bad to me so far.

Yes I know that he was trying to get rid of the perverse market that we have now by taxing it and that makes sense. However, the one problem I had is that he was saying revenue neutral. Whatever happened to huge tax cuts and huge spending cuts.

[itshappening]

this is on freerepublic, look what a poster said

someone needs to contact the campaign :

'But he [Schiff] has done nothing to contact the grass roots. Nuthing. Three others are running against Dodd on the GOP ticket and they all have made an effort to speak with small town RTCs. I do a website for one RTC. The RTC members and I would be delighted to have Schiff send us an email or phone. We would put up whatever he wants. But, apparently, he's too busy appearing on TV. '

I think this is because Peter doesn't know if he's running yet, not because he's snubbing them or anything?? please can someone mention this

[dr. hfn]

i sent angry emails to ge and msnbc.

[mtj458]

Yes I know that he was trying to get rid of the perverse market that we have now by taxing it and that makes sense. However, the one problem I had is that he was saying revenue neutral. Whatever happened to huge tax cuts and huge spending cuts.

There wouldn't even be an income tax under him. I think what he's saying is that you only get taxed on the money that you spend, which seems perfectly logical to me. Obviously if you take out the income tax and all the social security and medicare its going to far outweigh whatever small tax he'd put in place of it.

[Feenix566]

Bumped because these MSNBC clowns are making our case for us.

When the host of a political commentary show feels so insecure that he cannot allow his guest to speak, that tells you all you need to know about his opinions. The host knows that if Peter Schiff gets to speak, he'll tear him apart. That's why he didn't let Peter speak. He's afraid of him!

Why should these big government liberals be afraid of letting their viewers hear the other side of the story? Why are they so afraid of Schiff? Why don't they want Americans to hear Peter speak?

[FSP-Rebel]

That was the worst host I've ever seen.