Town Hall meetings rigged?

[Working Poor]

MSM is reporting that the disrupted town hall meetings are staged by a group of people traveling from town to town by bus specifically to disrupt meetings. It is being said that these people are being paid to do this.

Is this true?

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

has to be. There cant be this many douchebags grandstanding all the question and answer sessions.

Every town hall meeting you see, some soapbox loser is making a fool of themselves.

and it sort of makes me. . . MAD. IM MAD! IM REAL MAD!!!!

[Golding]

I heard that suggestion on Jon Stewart, who I haven't watched for months. Didn't seem like it was such a big deal to him with Code Pink doing exactly that over the Iraq War mere months ago.

And where is Code Pink nowadays anyhow? Haven't heard much from them for a while.

[free.alive]

It's such bullshit.

That's EXACTLY what they're people do. They did it here when Hillary came to Seattle during the POTUS election primary when we gave her a "Ron Paul Welcome" (remember those?).

They did it during a recent health care rally.

They do it when in Olympia testifying at committee hearings about legislation.

And yet, I have never been to a libertarian/conservative event where anyone was bussed in, no matter how few or how many there were! People make all their own signs or buy their own shirts, while lefty groups are handed all their shit by steering committees and and given shirts out of the boxes they bring.

80% of what they do is phony, yet since they control all the state-biased media, they get to tell lies as though they were truths.

It makes me especially pissed because I'm someone who knows how fucking hard it is to get people to show up to various events. Astroturf! They don't even know what real grassroots is!

[w00ter]

MSM is reporting that the disrupted town hall meetings are staged by a group of people traveling from town to town by bus specifically to disrupt meetings. It is being said that these people are being paid to do this.

Is this true?

I didn't see any buses at the one I went to, and I drove my car (no bus).

MSM = liars, by omission and commission

w00ter

[paulitics]

MSM is reporting that the disrupted town hall meetings are staged by a group of people traveling from town to town by bus specifically to disrupt meetings. It is being said that these people are being paid to do this.

Is this true?

are they being told who the paid provocateurs really work for? No, of course not. The MSM only report half the story.

[Sandra]

Freedom Works are behind it. They have suggestions on the website for town hall takeovers.

[paulitics]

I heard that suggestion on Jon Stewart, who I haven't watched for months. Didn't seem like it was such a big deal to him with Code Pink doing exactly that over the Iraq War mere months ago.

And where is Code Pink nowadays anyhow? Haven't heard much from them for a while.

Code Pink only shows up when there is real dissent from the people, early Iraq War, etc. Their job is to discredit the average Joe protestor, to associate them with pink whackos. George Bush even got to use them for political capital during his speeches.

They are as astroturf as it gets, and the majority of the protestors are kooks who look ridiculous to the average person watching the news. The leadership comes from power and money, but the rest are just useful idiots.

Since public dissent is negligible, even though the wars continue on, there is nothing for them to do. Do they want to make waves now when people turn a blind eye? Of course not, that would be counterproductive.

[Bucjason]

has to be. There cant be this many douchebags grandstanding all the question and answer sessions.

Every town hall meeting you see, some soapbox loser is making a fool of themselves.

and it sort of makes me. . . MAD. IM MAD! IM REAL MAD!!!!

Why are they losers??

They are asking the same questions I want to ask ,and the media won't ask.

The only one's making a fool of themselves are the politicians , because they can't answer a simple question like , " if this is so important, why haven't you read the bill?? "

[HenryKnoxFineBooks]

Freedom Works are behind it. They have suggestions on the website for town hall takeovers.

This is the nearest I could find for suggestions to takeover town hall meetings on FREEDOMWORKS.org:

If this video (h/t Drudgereport) is any indication of what is going on in town hall meetings across the country, the people have clearly had enough. If you know of a town hall meeting your Congressman is having, be sure to show up, bring some friends, and them know what you think—like these people did in Rep. Tim Bishop’s town hall on Long Island, NY:


And reading the comments on the video of Spectre getting boo'ed at his town hall, I'd say 80% are from liberals, warning the GOP that this is how to become 'obsolete'-http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/nswift/specter-gets-schooled

Anyway, It is my opinion that the Idea that these town hallers are being shipped in is absurd, and a liberal effort to minimize the discontent of the average American Voter.

[pcosmar]

Wait a minute.
Are the "rigged" now because they are getting hard questions and angry citizens?
Or were they "rigged" before when they got soft questions from supporters?

Did someone "fix" their "fix"?

[wer]

Divide and Conquer, divide and conquer, why do you let them do this to you year after year, decade on decade? Do you just not see the game? Will you never see the game? The pit one group against another so that they can control both groups. This is how a few people can control millions.

[Deborah K]

What news networks are claiming this - specifically? Jon Stewart aside.

[HOLLYWOOD]

It's such bullshit.

That's EXACTLY what they're people do. They did it here when Hillary came to Seattle during the POTUS election primary when we gave her a "Ron Paul Welcome" (remember those?).

They did it during a recent health care rally.

They do it when in Olympia testifying at committee hearings about legislation.

And yet, I have never been to a libertarian/conservative event where anyone was bussed in, no matter how few or how many there were! People make all their own signs or buy their own shirts, while lefty groups are handed all their shit by steering committees and and given shirts out of the boxes they bring.

80% of what they do is phony, yet since they control all the state-biased media, they get to tell lies as though they were truths.

It makes me especially pissed because I'm someone who knows how fucking hard it is to get people to show up to various events. Astroturf! They don't even know what real grassroots is!
^^^^^ THIS!

Though Republican Mitt Romney Bussed in the Mormons from UTAH to NEVADA for the win during the GOP Presidential primary. Money pays off in politics, just like Banking/Wall street white collar crime.

Knowing the Aptitude of the average American... We're kinda screwed, but we have a chance with OUR INTERNET.

[georgiaboy]

Divide and Conquer, divide and conquer, why do you let them do this to you year after year, decade on decade? Do you just not see the game? Will you never see the game? The pit one group against another so that they can control both groups. This is how a few people can control millions.

Welcome, wer, and yeah, we actually do see the game. join us in the fight against it.

[MsDoodahs]

Was just now mentioned on Fox Business, Sullivan discussed the Spector/Sibelous event, said he linked to the tube from his blog.

Fox News covered it yesterday - Beck had some clips from some events, then the Spector event was on their news (?) program that follows Beck.

[pacelli]

Divide and Conquer, divide and conquer, why do you let them do this to you year after year, decade on decade? Do you just not see the game? Will you never see the game? The pit one group against another so that they can control both groups. This is how a few people can control millions.

True, accurate, and correct.

[Deborah K]

Was just now mentioned on Fox Business, Sullivan discussed the Spector/Sibelous event, said he linked to the tube from his blog.

Fox News covered it yesterday - Beck had some clips from some events, then the Spector event was on their news (?) program that follows Beck.

Yes, but are they claiming that the meetings are rigged? The OP is making that claim and I have yet to hear or read who it is that is claiming that.

[Working Poor]

What news networks are claiming this - specifically? Jon Stewart aside.

The first I saw it was MsNBC's Keith Olberman I just happened into a room where some people were watching it on tv. The people were saying yes this is going on all over the country a bus full of paid people are going in and being disruptive so as to take over and not let other citizens be heard.

Naturally, all the millions of people who want government health care voices are being drowned out by these provocateurs.

[Deborah K]

The first I saw it was MsNBC's Keith Olberman I just happened into a room where some people were watching it on tv. The people were saying yes this is going on all over the country a bus full of paid people are going in and being disruptive so as to take over and not let other citizens be heard.

Naturally, all the millions of people who want government health care voices are being drowned out by these provocateurs.


So MSNBC is claiming this? Well...that explains everything. Look what they did to the Tea Partys.

[roho76]

Sometimes I just want to go and cut the main feed lines at the MSM and free this country.

[fedup100]

Freedom Works are behind it. They have suggestions on the website for town hall takeovers.

un(&^%n real!

[pcosmar]

The first I saw it was MsNBC's Keith Olberman I just happened into a room where some people were watching it on tv. The people were saying yes this is going on all over the country a bus full of paid people are going in and being disruptive so as to take over and not let other citizens be heard.

Naturally, all the millions of people who want government health care voices are being drowned out by these provocateurs.

The video clip I saw did not seem like a few disruptive people. The crowd was supportive ( and vocal) . That sounded like the voice of the people.
Looked like the politico's lost control of their controlled event.

That was my take.

[MsDoodahs]

Yes, but are they claiming that the meetings are rigged? The OP is making that claim and I have yet to hear or read who it is that is claiming that.

No claim of "rigged" meetings in any of the coverage I have seen.

[MsDoodahs]

The video clip I saw did not seem like a few disruptive people. The crowd was supportive ( and vocal) . That sounded like the voice of the people.
Looked like the politico's lost control of their controlled event.

That was my take.

I watched several clips yesterday, and in none of those clips did it appear to be only a few disruptive folks - pretty much the whole crowd was angry.

[ravedown]

according to olberman, its freedom works and big insurance companies stacking the events with dissruptive plants-he claims theres no doubt its a republican/medical monopoly trying to deny health care to everyone

YouTube - Keith Olbermann: Fake Protesters At Health Care Town Halls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ossuZV6aevk)

[kahless]

The first I saw it was MsNBC's Keith Olberman

Radio Moscow said what? NBC and especially Olbermann have ZERO credibility as a news organization. Olbermann is a mouth piece for the Obama administration and the far left.

[Deborah K]

according to olberman, its freedom works and big insurance companies stacking the events with dissruptive plants-he claims theres no doubt its a republican/medical monopoly trying to deny health care to everyone

YouTube - Keith Olbermann: Fake Protesters At Health Care Town Halls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ossuZV6aevk)


LOL! The left-wing is finally getting a taste of their own tactics and they can't handle it! This is awesome! If you can't beat em, infiltrate and co-opt!!!

[MsDoodahs]

The first I saw of the suggestion came from DU.

I think the lefties are just in freak out mode, because they have not seen conservatives actually show up - much less show up furious - before.

[Working Poor]

The video is the report I saw.

I guess they want everyone to think that there is no way people could be pissed off. Onething I am sure that tptb know is that they people actually do still have more power than they do.

I hope the people continue to wake up and take the country back from them.

[Bucjason]

The first I saw it was MsNBC's Keith Olberman I just happened into a room where some people were watching it on tv. The people were saying yes this is going on all over the country a bus full of paid people are going in and being disruptive so as to take over and not let other citizens be heard.

Naturally, all the millions of people who want government health care voices are being drowned out by these provocateurs.


You do realize that , acording to polls, more people are AGAINST this bill than are for it . SO, what is really happening is this: the voice of millions are drowning out the voices of the few moron politicians that are trying to shove socialism down the rest of our throats.

Stop watching Ogre-man....he is a partisan and a liar.

[Deborah K]

You do realize that , acording to polls, more people are AGAINST this bill than are for it . SO, what is really happening is this: the voice of millions are drowning out the voices of the few moron politicians that are trying to shove socialism down the rest of our throats.

Stop watching Ogre-man....he is a partisan and a liar.

Wrong advice....keep your enemies closer....

[Bucjason]

Wrong advice....keep your enemies closer....

You are probably right. Well , I'll let YOU watch him and then report back to the rest of us , lol.

I can't stomach Ogre-man .

[Deborah K]

You are probably right. Well , I'll let YOU watch him and then report back to the rest of us , lol.

I can't stomach Ogre-man .

Are you kidding? I can't do it! LOL!

[MsDoodahs]

Check this out - the Obamabots are planning to silence opposition:

htt p://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/4/13836/02418

[hamilton1049]

Check this out - the Obamabots are planning to silence opposition:

htt p://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/4/13836/02418

This looks to me like proof that they are the ones loading the meetings in their favor.

[kahless]

This looks to me like proof that they are the ones loading the meetings in their favor.

That links needs to be sent to the assignment desks at each news organization. Get the word out the DNC and Dailykos are rigging the Town Hall meetings to squash desent.

[Working Poor]

Hey I was an innocent bystander to the assault on my intelligence when I walked in on some people watching tv. I did not intentionally tune him in.

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Why are they losers??

They are asking the same questions I want to ask ,and the media won't ask.

The only one's making a fool of themselves are the politicians , because they can't answer a simple question like , " if this is so important, why haven't you read the bill?? "

Because it has nothing to do with asking a question. They arnt there to grill the politicians, they are there to hear themselves talk. Like Joe the Plumber.

[Deborah K]

Hey I was an innocent bystander to the assault on my intelligence when I walked in on some people watching tv. I did not intentionally tune him in.

And it's a good thing you did! I realize now that we need to watch MSNBC like a hawk.

[Badger Paul]

There's nothing wrong with questioning a government official or public official about an topic like health care and offering one's opinion. That's the way it's supposed to be.

What's wrong is disruption for its own sake and disruption as a tactic. The left does this all the time on college campuses to speakers they don't like. Go ask Tom Tancredo what that's like. There's no reason to ape such tactics.

And by the way, we live in a socialist country. Our throat's already been stuffed.

[t0rnado]

Libertarians and people who actually want to change the country aren't the ones causing disruptions though. It's neocons who are just mad that their team lost.

[Bucjason]

Because it has nothing to do with asking a question. They arnt there to grill the politicians, they are there to hear themselves talk. Like Joe the Plumber.


and you know that how?? Because you talked to each and every person at these town hall meetings??

Bullshit...come with facts instead of just grouping everyone into your pre-concieved stereotype. Yours is not a very Libertarian attitude.

I can assure that some people are just FED up with these politicians ignoring the will of the people, and they are just fighting back...and rightly so !!

[Bucjason]

Libertarians and people who actually want to change the country aren't the ones causing disruptions though. It's neocons who are just mad that their team lost.


I'm a Libertarian and I'll gladly cause a disruption.

How else are we supposed to get these morons to listen to us?? Nothing else has worked, that's for sure.

Speak for yourself there, buddy. I am ready to fight back. :mad:

[kahless]

I'm a Libertarian and I'll gladly cause a disruption.

How else are we supposed to get these morons to listen to us?? Nothing else has worked, that's for sure.

Speak for yourself there, buddy. I am ready to fight back. :mad:

Absolutely! I sometimes wonder if some of the people we have in these forums do not share our beliefs but post due to the common issues we have with neocons. Anything else puts us at odds with Obama - leftist agenda and they can't have that.

It was mentioned above about what Tom Tancredo had to endure. I do not see how anyone can make that comparison since I have yet to see any event where it was taken to that kooky extent. :rolleyes: