BillyDkid
08-02-2009, 11:25 AM
Okay, I don't really have an opinion about whether or not Obama was born in the US or not, but am I alone in seeing this issue as a rather pointless distraction that tends to discredit the liberty movement in the eyes of the rest of America? Yes, I understand the principle of the rule of law and obeying the Constitution, but it seems to me this is an issue we can only lose on. The power elite will always keep in power who they want to be in power and there is little we can do about that in general.
We already know that the government obeys or does not obey the law of the land as it suites them - we know this. It seems to me this birth certificate issue can do nothing except derail progress toward liberty - what tiny, miniscule amount of progress we have made in terms of waking other Americans to issues like the Fed and the police state and the military industrial complex and crony capitalism and the rest. And you know that the MSM is loving that some of us have latched on to this marginal issue - and it is a marginal issue so long as the media treats it as one, which they will.
We all know that the actual truth of things matters not at all in the scheme of things in America as it is right now and all of these issues - all of these conspiracy issue things which pop up in here relentlessly - do little except to give the media an excuse to marginalize us and make us look like kooks. I know for a fact that one of the strategies of those who oppose us and what we stand for - the principles all of us are supposedly fighting for - is to stir up the pot with whacko conspiracy crap in order to portray any of us who believe in the principles of liberty as marginal people. I'm not saying that the birther thing is necessarily off base. I am saying that it doesn't matter whether or not there is some basis for it. All that matters is that it is something the media can use to further paint us as a group of tin foil hatters to the rest of America - and you know whenever some among us latch onto one of these sorts of issues those who hate us, love it precisely because it is another excuse to make us look like a joke.
I think it is important for us to stick to issues that can actually help us make progress - though I am sure there are plants among the various loosely connected factions of the liberty movement who's intention is precisely to prevent us for gaining or maintaining traction. The birther issue like so many other issues which some are enamored of does nothing except give people like Bill Maher and Jon Stewart - both of whom I do not think are corrupt people, but are maybe blind to certain things, guys who could be largely on our side and certainly are on some issues - fodder for portraying anyone who opposes Obama's policies and socializism inspired views as a joke. This is the last sort of notoriety we need. We are fighting an uphill battle as it is and stuff like this just makes it all harder and could end up ruining any hope we have for progress toward liberty.
This is just my opinion and I certainly do not mean to insult anyone or their views, but I am certain I am not alone in these feelings.
We already know that the government obeys or does not obey the law of the land as it suites them - we know this. It seems to me this birth certificate issue can do nothing except derail progress toward liberty - what tiny, miniscule amount of progress we have made in terms of waking other Americans to issues like the Fed and the police state and the military industrial complex and crony capitalism and the rest. And you know that the MSM is loving that some of us have latched on to this marginal issue - and it is a marginal issue so long as the media treats it as one, which they will.
We all know that the actual truth of things matters not at all in the scheme of things in America as it is right now and all of these issues - all of these conspiracy issue things which pop up in here relentlessly - do little except to give the media an excuse to marginalize us and make us look like kooks. I know for a fact that one of the strategies of those who oppose us and what we stand for - the principles all of us are supposedly fighting for - is to stir up the pot with whacko conspiracy crap in order to portray any of us who believe in the principles of liberty as marginal people. I'm not saying that the birther thing is necessarily off base. I am saying that it doesn't matter whether or not there is some basis for it. All that matters is that it is something the media can use to further paint us as a group of tin foil hatters to the rest of America - and you know whenever some among us latch onto one of these sorts of issues those who hate us, love it precisely because it is another excuse to make us look like a joke.
I think it is important for us to stick to issues that can actually help us make progress - though I am sure there are plants among the various loosely connected factions of the liberty movement who's intention is precisely to prevent us for gaining or maintaining traction. The birther issue like so many other issues which some are enamored of does nothing except give people like Bill Maher and Jon Stewart - both of whom I do not think are corrupt people, but are maybe blind to certain things, guys who could be largely on our side and certainly are on some issues - fodder for portraying anyone who opposes Obama's policies and socializism inspired views as a joke. This is the last sort of notoriety we need. We are fighting an uphill battle as it is and stuff like this just makes it all harder and could end up ruining any hope we have for progress toward liberty.
This is just my opinion and I certainly do not mean to insult anyone or their views, but I am certain I am not alone in these feelings.