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FrankRep
07-31-2009, 12:28 PM
Obama's Doctor Pessimistic on Reform (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/1553)


Steven J. DuBord | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
31 July 2009


The Huffington Post reported (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/29/obamas-doctor-presidents_n_246870.html) on July 29 that Dr. David Scheiner, a physician who has treated Barack Obama for more than 20 years, thinks that the president’s healthcare reform efforts are doomed to fail. “I look at his program and I can't see how it's going to work,” the 70-year-old Chicago doctor told the Post.

Scheiner believes that Obama’s approach to reform “has no cost control.... The [Congressional Budget Office] said it's going be incredibly expensive … and the thing that I really am worried about is, if it is the failure that I think it would be, then health reform will be set back a long, long time.” Part of what is bothering Scheiner is that the president is not pushing for a single-payer system. “His pragmatism is what is overwhelming him,” Scheiner said. “I think he's afraid that he can't get anything through if he doesn't go through this incredibly compromised program.”

The doctor has chosen to speak out as part of an effort by the group Physicians for a National Health Program. The group wants Congress to establish a single-payer healthcare system instead of implementing the reform proposals currently on the table. They have even embedded at their website (http://www.pnhp.org/news/2008/june/barack_obama_on_sing.php) a YouTube video of President Obama speaking in favor of single-payer at an AFL-CIO event in 2003. The complete transcript of what Obama said is posted below the video, but here are the most relevant parts:



I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer, universal healthcare program.... And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.


Dr. Scheiner agrees with Obama about the desirability of single-payer, but he has a very low opinion of Obama’s public insurance option. “First of all, they haven't really gone into great detail about the public option,” Scheiner said. "How much is it going to cost, are they going to really undercut private health insurance by a considerable amount?” When asked if it would be better to have less-than-ideal reform become law or to take the chance that we would be left with the status quo if a single-payer proposal got shot down in Congress, Scheiner said, “It's a good question. Is something better than nothing?... That is a difficult one, because, in the end, I think [Obama's] program is going to fail.”

In fact, if Dr. Scheiner’s bleak prognosis were to help defeat current reform efforts, it would be for the best. Why? Because the doctor has not factored into his diagnosis that Obama’s “incredibly compromised program” is actually the best way to achieve a single-payer system. As Obama said of single-payer in 2003, “we may not get there immediately.”

Being a shrewd politician, the president knows that once a Medicare-like program is available for some Americans who aren’t seniors, all that is needed is to slowly drive its competitors out of business. Government can do this by gradually expanding who can qualify for the public plan while also lowering the premiums below what private insurance companies can afford to compete with.

The Lewin Group has estimated that if the public plan pays healthcare providers at the lower Medicare rate, public premiums could be kept at least 20 percent cheaper than what private plans charge. All the government would have to do then is eliminate the restrictions on who can qualify for the public plan. According to the Lewin Group, 70 percent of those who are now privately insured would probably move over to the public plan. With healthcare providers charging private insurers more in order to make up for the public plan’s lower pay rate, and with fewer people left in private plans, private carriers would have to raise premiums to stay in business. These hikes would only drive more people into the public plan, starting a vicious cycle that would eventually drive almost all private insurance companies out of business.

At this point, the public option would become the only viable option, and both Obama and Scheiner would get their wish for single-payer, socialized medicine. Dr. Scheiner, of all people, should be able to appreciate the surgical precision with which President Obama would patiently accomplish this delicate operation. Unfortunately for the American people who are the unwitting subjects of this operation, they would be left with a healthcare system 100-percent controlled by the government, with the long waiting lines and healthcare rationing that would inevitably follow.


SOURCE:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/1553

Feenix566
07-31-2009, 12:38 PM
Unfortunately for the American ... they would be left with a healthcare system 100-percent controlled by the government, with the long waiting lines and healthcare rationing that would inevitably follow.


That's absolutely correct. All this "plan" amounts to is price controls and rationing. Maximum prices always always always lead to shortages. Fewer people will enter the medical profession. More people will expect cheap medical services, and the lines will stretch around the world.

Welcome to the United Solviet States of America.

I seriously can't understand how anyone can think that a single-payer system is a good idea.

eduardo89
07-31-2009, 04:44 PM
Even his own doctor opposed it!

Are there actually ANY doctors who want this to pass?! If this passes, there is going to be a huge exodus of physicians and specialists, who the hell would want to work under government mandate? The only problem is...where would they go?!

Chieppa1
07-31-2009, 04:53 PM
Even his own doctor opposed it!

Are there actually ANY doctors who want this to pass?! If this passes, there is going to be a huge exodus of physicians and specialists, who the hell would want to work under government mandate? The only problem is...where would they go?!

My father is going to Costa Rica.:D He will be working/teaching at a medical university in the capital city.

:( And I'll stay here, fighting the good fight.

NerveShocker
07-31-2009, 05:02 PM
Even his own doctor opposed it!

Are there actually ANY doctors who want this to pass?! If this passes, there is going to be a huge exodus of physicians and specialists, who the hell would want to work under government mandate? The only problem is...where would they go?!

His doctor only opposes it because it's not complete universal health care.. but if this passes he will eventually get what he asked for.

tangent4ronpaul
07-31-2009, 05:21 PM
That's absolutely correct. All this "plan" amounts to is price controls and rationing. Maximum prices always always always lead to shortages. Fewer people will enter the medical profession. More people will expect cheap medical services, and the lines will stretch around the world.

Welcome to the United Solviet States of America.

I seriously can't understand how anyone can think that a single-payer system is a good idea.

last version I read, thy have a 2 tier system - "preferred physicians" who are already not being fully re-reimbursed for medicare patients would take a forced 20% pay cut (for a start), and "non-preferred physicians" would presumably not treat medicare patients, but would charge their normal fees. They would also be barred from home care - like Rxing oxygen or anything else medical to a home bound patient. They basically try to punish the "second tier" physicians" for not being pushed arround (we pay you what we want to) like the "first tier" ones.

but there are 3 versions of this and then a Senate version. If Congress started this process with the Bible, they would end up passing something that read like the Koran.

All the amendments the Republicans offered were voted down. Totally surreal to hear a Dem argue against capping legal awards at 250 thousand and doing other tort reform. "sueing doctors is good - makes them be careful and make less mistakes" - uh, hu...

-t