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FrankRep
07-31-2009, 06:53 AM
Birchers to birthers: a GOP quandary


Politico
July 31, 2009


They’ve been christened the “birthers,” and they ask, “Is Barack Obama the left’s very own Manchurian Candidate, come out of Darkest Africa and smuggled into the New World to assume the presidency as Citizen of the World, ushering in an era of post-racial, big-government socialism?” As many have been asking, is the GOP being pulled under by its conspiratorial fringe?

This is not the first time the Grand Old Party has had a problem with conspiracy theorists who threaten to undermine the broader conservative agenda. In its infancy, the conservative movement faced a serious problem with extremists who threatened to discredit the integrity and seriousness of their political project. These were the “Birchers,” members of the John Birch Society, a far-right organization that originated the myth of the U.N.’s black helicopters, of fluoride poison in our drinking water and of communists hidden in every corner — even the Oval Office. Yes, they argued that Ike Eisenhower was a Commie.

Back then, leaders like the late William F. Buckley Jr. were thinking strategically about the future of conservatism in the postwar era. They wanted to get beyond the legacy of isolationism that had branded their party and led it to defeat after electoral defeat. Buckley and his associates made the decision to split with the Birchers and to do so in no uncertain terms. They cut them off. Publicly, in print and for the record.

And to be fair, the modern National Review has taken a similar attitude toward the birthers, writing them off in an editorial July 28. But NR is not the powerhouse it once was, and in the age of the blogosphere and 24-hour news coverage, it bears little resemblance to the institution built by Buckley.

The modern GOP doesn’t seem to have the stomach or integrity of those earlier conservatives. Confronted by loony conspiracy theories about the legitimacy of the president’s citizenship, too many conservatives are either silent or stammering, hemming or hawing when asked if our first black president is an illegal alien. The situation is sad and does not bode well for the future of the GOP and the conservative movement. Such as it is.

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25625.html

FrankRep
07-31-2009, 06:53 AM
Yes, they argued that Ike Eisenhower was a Commie.


Congressman Larry McDonald, JBS President, in a 1983 interview stated the John Birch society (http://www.jbs.org/) never called Eisenhower a Communist. The JBS never took a position on the issue, it's only a strawman.



Larry McDonald on the New World Order (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3100752722910819372)



This is where they're pulling the JBS/Eisenhower comment, out of Context.

Robert Welch, the JBS president, wrote an unpublished manuscript stating the shortcomings of Eisenhower.

http://www.shopjbs.org/index.php/books/the-politician.html

The Politician

Originally intended to be an unpublished letter to friends, "The Politician" became one of the most provocative books in American history. This handsome new 2002 edition has been completely re-typeset. A timely foreword explains the continuing significance of Welch's expose' of the forces that propelled Dwight D. Eisenhower into the presidency. (2002, 544pp, pb)


http://www.shopjbs.org/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/T/h/The-Politician.jpg

max
07-31-2009, 07:19 AM
Eisenhower ordered Genral Patton to stop advancing so that Stalin could have Eastern Europe.

Eisenhower opposed Churchill's plan to invade Europe from the south "soft underbelly"...and instead supported the suicidal D-Day invasion of France (which Stal;in wanted)....This again helped Stalin take eastern Europe

Eisenhower DELIBERATELY murdered millions of German POW's (read "Other Losses)

Eisenhower had his photo taken with Stalin and proudly displayed it on his desk when he became president of Columbia U

Eisenhower stabbed Joe McCarthy in the back and killed his investigations. Soviet archives have since confirmed that McCarthy was right.

Eisenhower sold out the Cuban government and allowed Castro to take Cuba. He cliamed that no one knew that Castro was a Marxist....a bloody lie!

Eisenhower was a life long FDR democrat.

Eisenhower's 8 years in office DESTROYED GOP conservatism and made the party a party of "moderates"

specsaregood
07-31-2009, 07:38 AM
I thought it as quite obvious when this "birther" meme started going around that it was a not-so-subtle dig against the birchers.

Anybody know who originated the term "birther"? A quick search turned up no answers. The closest match was a "yahoo answers" page that has been deleted.....

FrankRep
07-31-2009, 07:41 AM
Anybody know who originated the term "birther"? A quick search turned up no answers. The closest match was a "yahoo answers" page that has been deleted.....

I'm guessing it was based on the "truther" word.

Cowlesy
07-31-2009, 07:42 AM
See....you guys all hate Eisenhower for some things, but then readily use his address against the Military/Industrial Complex as a dangerous cabal.

LibertyEagle
07-31-2009, 07:46 AM
See....you guys all hate Eisenhower for some things, but then readily use his address against the Military/Industrial Complex as a dangerous cabal.

Eisenhower was not a good guy, but even bad guys say something good, every once in awhile. :)

specsaregood
07-31-2009, 07:47 AM
I'm guessing it was based on the "truther" word.

Yeah but it is so similar to bircher that it conviently works for both.

On that topic, do you know if any of the JBS journalists done a write-up on the "natural born citizen" issue? Complete with research/references, etc? As Ron Paul said, "they know their constitution". I'd be interested in a full-analysis of the subject by one of them.

Deborah K
07-31-2009, 07:52 AM
It starts!

Bring
it
on!!!!!!!

AuH20
07-31-2009, 08:14 AM
On the periphery this appears far too coordinated. First the Daily Beast yesterday and now Politico?

AuH20
07-31-2009, 08:15 AM
BTW Aren't you tired of the Buckley worship? Buckley was an appeasing, elitist weasel.

AuH20
07-31-2009, 08:18 AM
Eisenhower ordered Genral Patton to stop advancing so that Stalin could have Eastern Europe.

Eisenhower opposed Churchill's plan to invade Europe from the south "soft underbelly"...and instead supported the suicidal D-Day invasion of France (which Stal;in wanted)....This again helped Stalin take eastern Europe

Eisenhower DELIBERATELY murdered millions of German POW's (read "Other Losses)

Eisenhower had his photo taken with Stalin and proudly displayed it on his desk when he became president of Columbia U

Eisenhower stabbed Joe McCarthy in the back and killed his investigations. Soviet archives have since confirmed that McCarthy was right.

Eisenhower sold out the Cuban government and allowed Castro to take Cuba. He cliamed that no one knew that Castro was a Marxist....a bloody lie!

Eisenhower was a life long FDR democrat.

Eisenhower's 8 years in office DESTROYED GOP conservatism and made the party a party of "moderates"

I'm pretty certain Eisenhower's presidential prospects were bolstered by Rockefeller money. I believe he even let Nelson R. create and eventually run the department of health, education, & welfare.

FrankRep
07-31-2009, 08:18 AM
See....you guys all hate Eisenhower for some things, but then readily use his address against the Military/Industrial Complex as a dangerous cabal.
Who hates Eisenhower? Eisenhower had some major shortcomings though.

specsaregood
07-31-2009, 08:42 AM
Who hates Eisenhower? Eisenhower had some major shortcomings though.

I would have thought that you would mention how he was drafted in order to stop Taft from becoming president.



At the Republican nominating convention, "dirty tricks" abounded. The rules for selecting delegates were changed; Taft delegations from Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas were thrown out and replaced by Eisenhower supporters.

"First, it was the power of the New York financial interests and a large number of businessmen subject to New York influence, who selected Gen. Eisenhower as their candidate at least a year ago... Second, four-fifths of the influential newspapers in the country were opposed to me continuously and vociferously and many turned themselves into propaganda sheets for my opponent."--Taft

From: "Shadows of Power", pg. 103

FrankRep
08-01-2009, 07:11 AM
I would have thought that you would mention how he was drafted in order to stop Taft from becoming president.

From: "Shadows of Power", pg. 103

Thanks for bringing that up.

Stary Hickory
08-01-2009, 07:50 AM
Another attempt to discredit rather than disrprove. Still yet there are people like the Kenyan Ambassador who says Obama was born in Kenya, and the obvious coverup, and the lack of the long form BC.

The short form is obtainable by anyone. Facts never change, just more attacks. I am convinced Obama was born in Kenya. The more viscous these attacks the more obvious what is going on.