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FrankRep
07-28-2009, 05:22 PM
The Churchill you didn't know (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2002/nov/28/features11.g21)


The Guardian UK
28 November 2002



Illustrated Sunday Herald,
February 1920

Speaking of the Communist revolution, Churchill said:

From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt (Illuminati) to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States)... this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
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SOURCE:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2002/nov/28/features11.g21

FrankRep
07-28-2009, 05:30 PM
Here's the actual Newspaper

http://www.scribd.com/doc/200538/1920-Churchill-Zionism-versus-Bolshevism-on-Illuminati-OCR-by-MatRoX

dannno
07-28-2009, 05:33 PM
Also a eugenicist apparently.

jkr
07-28-2009, 07:26 PM
and warmonger/ antagonist

Liberty Star
07-28-2009, 07:34 PM
That explains why Obama sent Churchill's bust in the WH back to UK.

Young Paleocon
07-28-2009, 07:42 PM
Usually those people who are deified by government committed the most egregious and aggressive assaults on freedom.

misterx
07-29-2009, 12:24 AM
The Churchill you didn't know (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2002/nov/28/features11.g21)


The Guardian UK
28 November 2002



Illustrated Sunday Herald,
February 1920

Speaking of the Communist revolution, Churchill said:

From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt (Illuminati) to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States)... this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
...


SOURCE:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2002/nov/28/features11.g21

Why did you edit out the first line of that paragraph? You pasted the entire thing except for this one sentence: "This movement among the Jews is not new." Was the full text too politically incorrect for you?

FrankRep
07-29-2009, 05:44 AM
Why did you edit out the first line of that paragraph? You pasted the entire thing except for this one sentence: "This movement among the Jews is not new." Was the full text too politically incorrect for you?

Because the Nazis and anti-Jewish people on this forum would jump on that and say: "See, it's the Jews! The Jews are the problem." Those type of collective statements are stupid and dangerous.

misterx
07-29-2009, 11:43 AM
Because the Nazis and anti-Jewish people on this forum would jump on that and say: "See, it's the Jews! The Jews are the problem." Those type of collective statements are stupid and dangerous.

Perhaps you would like to sign on as a cosponsor to the new hate crimes bill. You can decide for us all what is acceptable speech, and what is dangerous. How long before our masters decide that anti-federalist speech is too dangerous to be allowed?

If you're going to quote someone, you should post the entire thing so that people can understand what the person meant. They can judge for themselves if it has merit or not. There's nothing more Orwellian than deleting a portion of a text to change its meaning. Not only that, you added your own introduction to change the meaning. The quote is not about the communist revolution, it is about Zionism.

Here is the entire article:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3832707/Zionism-vs-Bolshivism

FrankRep
07-29-2009, 11:52 AM
The quote is not about the communist revolution, it is about Zionism.

It is about Communism.

Zionism vs Bolshivism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik

The Bolsheviks were a faction of the Marxist Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP) which split apart from the Menshevik faction at the Second Party Congress in 1903 and ultimately became the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The Bolsheviks came to power in Russia during the October Revolution phase of the Russian Revolution of 1917, and founded the Soviet Union.

misterx
07-29-2009, 01:19 PM
It is about Communism.

Zionism vs Bolshivism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik

The Bolsheviks were a faction of the Marxist Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP) which split apart from the Menshevik faction at the Second Party Congress in 1903 and ultimately became the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The Bolsheviks came to power in Russia during the October Revolution phase of the Russian Revolution of 1917, and founded the Soviet Union.

Read the entire article and tell me that the main theme is the communist revolution. You can't do it. The point of the article is that Jews should repudiate Bolshevism. The article's subtitle is, "A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People".

Here is a better link so you can read the entire thing. I think even the most politically correct person can understand that this is not anti-Semitic when viewed in the full context:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html

max
07-29-2009, 02:34 PM
Because the Nazis and anti-Jewish people on this forum would jump on that and say: "See, it's the Jews! The Jews are the problem." Those type of collective statements are stupid and dangerous.

Yeah...we dont want people to think that just because all of Obama's handlers: Rahm Emmanuel, David Axelrod, Tim Geitner, Peter Orzag, Larry Summers, George Soros, Bob Rubin, Ben Bernanke, Paul Volcker are all Zionists....that it may have been planned that way.

Sandman33
07-29-2009, 02:40 PM
Perhaps you would like to sign on as a cosponsor to the new hate crimes bill. You can decide for us all what is acceptable speech, and what is dangerous. How long before our masters decide that anti-federalist speech is too dangerous to be allowed?

If you're going to quote someone, you should post the entire thing so that people can understand what the person meant. They can judge for themselves if it has merit or not. There's nothing more Orwellian than deleting a portion of a text to change its meaning. Not only that, you added your own introduction to change the meaning. The quote is not about the communist revolution, it is about Zionism.

Here is the entire article:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3832707/Zionism-vs-Bolshivism

WORD.

Couldnt have said it better myself.

The war against zionism will not stop. And the more regular jews try and silence us the more they line themselves up with the problem...instead of trying to stop it.

0zzy
07-29-2009, 03:02 PM
These forums are getting more and more productive by the minute!

Woo!

0zzy
07-29-2009, 03:04 PM
WORD.

Couldnt have said it better myself.

The war against zionism will not stop. And the more regular jews try and silence us the more they line themselves up with the problem...instead of trying to stop it.

IT'S THE JEWS! THE JEWS! THE JEWS ARE COMING TO SHUT US UP!

Wait what? You mean non-Jews aren't on the board who disagree with antisemitism? Shocker!

I mean, ya know, against Zionism. I, for one, am against Israeli occupation and influence. But, as it seems, there are many people here who confuse the state and a whole race of people as one and the same.

paulim
07-29-2009, 03:18 PM
And the more regular jews try and silence us the more they line themselves up with the problem...instead of trying to stop it.
I think indeed, that jewish people (what you call regular) have a special responsibility to search for truth and to reject jewish myths (myths of fear). Exactly, because it seems easy to hire jews for social engineering purposes, everyone who consciously decides to not participate is a valuable asset in the fight for liberty.