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Matt Collins
07-26-2009, 09:08 PM
The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gambling & Tax Cuts



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By Wayne Allen Root

TheConstitutionLives
07-26-2009, 09:09 PM
I'll take a pass on this one

Matt Collins
07-26-2009, 09:09 PM
From the Inside Flap


In today's turbulent economy, more and more people are growing concerned about their financial future and looking for answers that make sense. While the government attempts to "fix" the problems created by the credit crunch and subprime crisis, the fact is that in order to improve America's economic future, government intervention must be limited.

In The Conscience of a Libertarian, Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee and frontrunner for the 2012 Presidential nomination Wayne Allyn Root presents a passionate case for the dramatic overhaul of governmental programs and policies that are essential for the continued survival of the American Dream. Focusing on the need to shrink the size of government—including the elimination of the IRS—Root proposes the dramatic reduction of government spending, lowering entitlements, reducing bureaucracy, increasing market freedom, reducing the tax burden on all Americans, and an end to the nanny state among many other ideas.



Divided into four comprehensive parts—A Revolution Is Brewing, Let's Talk Money and Politics, Solutions for the Mess We Are In, and Protecting and Preserving Our Inalienable Civil Liberties—The Conscience of a Libertarian puts our current situation in perspective and reveals what it will take to overcome the enormous obstacles we face.



Throughout these pages, Root also shares his thoughts on what he believes the government should do to improve our situation—and bring money back to the American taxpayer—including: upgrade the education system on the state level; foster investment to provide workers with more capital; lower the income tax rate to empower Americans to save the money needed to invest in stocks, real estate, and business start-ups; encourage reasonable risk and entrepreneurship; and eliminate corporate welfare.



It's time for a new revolution, a Citizen Revolution led by a Citizen Politician. Just as our Founding Fathers intended, Root's goal is to give the power back to you, the citizens and taxpayers. Focusing in part on his home state of Nevada—which represents smaller government, has among the lowest tax rates in America, and continuously promotes personal and economic freedom—Root examines what happens when his principles are applied to state government, and reveals how the American Dream can survive and thrive during this current economic crisis.


Wayne Allyn Root is one of the most charismatic, fiery, outspoken, and controversial political personalities in America today. He was the 2008 Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee. A college classmate of Barack Obama at Columbia University, he is now the leading contender for the Libertarian presidential nomination in 2012. Root is the son of a butcher, small businessman, and homeschool dad—the quintessential "Citizen Politician" envisioned by America's Founding Fathers. A former anchorman and host on Financial News Network (now known as CNBC), his business and political careers have been profiled by CNBC, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and Time magazine, among others. He is a frequent guest on Fox News, Fox Business, and many national radio shows including Savage Nation, The Jerry Doyle Show, and The Mancow Show. Root's web sites include www.ROOTforAmerica.com (http://www.rootforamerica.com/) and www.ROOTofSuccess.com (http://www.rootofsuccess.com/).




Praise for The Conscience of a Libertarian


"Wayne Root is the anti-Obama. His book is a fast-paced read that reminds us of what has made and kept this country strong: free market principles, risk-taking, capitalism, and a deep-seated belief in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness—not a government-guaranteed happiness based on bailouts, entitlements, stimulus, waste, welfare, and tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes. You want to save America and capitalism—read this book!"— Jerry Doyle, Nationally syndicated talk show host, The Jerry Doyle Show


"Republican or Democrat? It seems no matter who wins, we lose. Only Wayne Allyn Root can save the USA from the morons, thieves, and frauds in Washington, D.C. He is our last best hope to lead a political revolution. Read this book to stop the insanity, to save our nation, to protect our freedom. None of the sex, violence, and profanity I usually read, but just as exciting, and more important to our future."—Mancow Muller, Nationally syndicated radio host, The Mancow Show


"The Conscience of a Libertarian is the most important and potentially nation changing book you'll read this decade. Wayne Root has penned the final solution to stopping the United States of America from being pushed off the cliff by government. Every citizen of conscience will read this book and immediately understand the gravity and urgency of the crisis our country faces at every level. The enemy is not in Russia or Iran, it's in Washington, D.C., and we can stop it before it's too late."
—Kevin Hogan, PsyD, Author of The Science of Influence and The 12 Factors of Business Success


"Wayne Allyn Root is a dynamic Libertarian patriot and freedom-fighter. He lives and breathes freedom and free markets. If you value your liberty, read this book. The Conscience of a Libertarian explains how government is the problem—not the solution—and calls for a dramatic reduction in government intervention. Root is a Citizen Politician whose passion and message can spearhead our Citizen Revolution."
—Manny Klausner, Co-Founding Editor of Reason magazine and Cofounder of the Reason Foundation


"Wayne Allyn Root might just be the most powerful new voice for the cause of liberty in America. If every U.S. citizen would read The Conscience of a Libertarian, most of the power holders in Washington would be thrown out of office. In his trademark dynamic style, Root leaves no doubt that government is not the solution, but the problem."—Robert Ringer, Publisher, A Voice of Sanity in an Insane World and New York Times bestselling author, To Be or Not to Be Intimidated? and Looking Out for #1



Discuss.......





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Dreamofunity
07-26-2009, 09:13 PM
I'll take a pass on this one

The Conscience of a Neocon-turned-"Libertarian"-turned-Republican-again?

Matt Collins
07-26-2009, 09:20 PM
The Conscience of a Neocon-turned-"Libertarian"-turned-Republican-again?I don't know anything about the guy.

heavenlyboy34
07-26-2009, 09:29 PM
I don't know anything about the guy.

If you seek a used car, he can sell you one. If you seek libertarianism, he's not your guy. (IMO)

haaaylee
07-26-2009, 10:56 PM
ugh.




he wishes he was barry goldwater.

Kotin
07-26-2009, 10:57 PM
Why does it have to be him?!?!


Someone reputable should write such a book..

:rolleyes:

dr. hfn
07-26-2009, 11:11 PM
this is good news, not bad news. libertarianism is spreading!

TCE
07-26-2009, 11:17 PM
this is good news, not bad news. libertarianism is spreading!

Agreed. Why are so many against more books on Libertarianism? The message is likable, but virtually nobody knows about it yet. If they hear even some of the good things that freedom can bring, it is likely they will search for more of it. It matters much less who conveys the message, as long as it's not the head of the movement, and it matters much more what the message is.

heavenlyboy34
07-26-2009, 11:18 PM
this is good news, not bad news. libertarianism is spreading!

This is Libertarianism (dressed up conservatism), no libertarianism. :p

literatim
07-26-2009, 11:26 PM
This is Libertarianism (dressed up conservatism), no libertarianism. :p

Yeah! The only real libertarianism is nihilism!

disorderlyvision
07-26-2009, 11:40 PM
I don't know anything about the guy.

He was Bob Barr's running mate if that tells you anything


Agreed. Why are so many against more books on Libertarianism?

People are not against more books on libertarianism. People are against books about libertarianism written by non-libertarians. Root may have run as a libertarian, but he is by no means a libertarian.

emazur
07-27-2009, 12:01 AM
this is good news, not bad news. libertarianism is spreading!

Agreed. The problem with many people on this board is that they take a shit on anyone who doesn't 100% agree with Ron Paul on all issues, and by doing so they weaken the libertarian movement and actually contribute to collectivism. Never mind that Root's on TV promoting abolishing the Federal Reserve & the income tax:
YouTube - Abolish the Federal Reserve - Wayne Allyn Root for President 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA6FKXqKQfU)
or that he does a great job explaining explaining how socialism is engulfing our country:
YouTube - You might be a socialist if... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElkhHUK-7jk)
No, no - only Ron Paul should be doing that because only he has a full understanding of economics :rolleyes: I'm sure Paul loves being the one voice in the wilderness, so we should all tell Root to STFU I guess.
Yes, Root still needs to learn more (for example he says he wouldn't try to kill the SEC), but guess what - not everyone who fought against tyranny in the Revolutionary War agreed 100% on how things should be run either. That doesn't mean they shouldn't have united together, and it certainly doesn't mean they should have shit on other freedom fighters who they weren't in complete agreement with.

Matt Collins
07-27-2009, 12:45 AM
He was Bob Barr's running mate if that tells you anythingNo it doesn't actually. I don't always judge people by association.




People are not against more books on libertarianism. People are against books about libertarianism written by non-libertarians. Root may have run as a libertarian, but he is by no means a libertarian.Ok... many people have said this. But how so? No one has explained WHY they don't think he is a libertarian. I am trying to give an objective look at the guy. It would be nice if people cited quotes, videos, sources etc when they discussed someone. It would help me understand the guy a lot better and where he is coming from.

TCE
07-28-2009, 01:49 PM
According to his and Bob Barr's election website, they:

* Wanted to end the Department of Education.
* End all warrantless wiretaps.
* Remove all restrictions on gun ownership (Bob Barr's NRA rating was the highest of any 2008 Presidential Candidate).
* End the Federal Reserve.
* End all bailouts. He spoke out against the "BOMB dropped on America. "The Bush Obama McCain Bailout."

Even if he opposed all of our other goals, that alone is reason enough to encourage his efforts. I, for one, would rather let him join in on the movement instead of alienating him back to the big government Republicans.

South Park Fan
07-28-2009, 01:54 PM
No it doesn't actually. I don't always judge people by association.



Ok... many people have said this. But how so? No one has explained WHY they don't think he is a libertarian. I am trying to give an objective look at the guy. It would be nice if people cited quotes, videos, sources etc when they discussed someone. It would help me understand the guy a lot better and where he is coming from.

Perhaps his support for Joe Lieberman is indicative of his non-libertarianism?

http://newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Henderson&st=NV&last=root&first=wayne

Kraig
07-28-2009, 02:15 PM
Sounds like he is trying to win a popularity contest, I don't buy it at all. I too thought Root used to be a neocon but I could be getting my soap opera characters mixed up.

Kraig
07-28-2009, 02:17 PM
According to his and Bob Barr's election website, they:

* Wanted to end the Department of Education.
* End all warrantless wiretaps.
* Remove all restrictions on gun ownership (Bob Barr's NRA rating was the highest of any 2008 Presidential Candidate).
* End the Federal Reserve.
* End all bailouts. He spoke out against the "BOMB dropped on America. "The Bush Obama McCain Bailout."

Even if he opposed all of our other goals, that alone is reason enough to encourage his efforts. I, for one, would rather let him join in on the movement instead of alienating him back to the big government Republicans.

Yet I think I did more campaigning for Ron Paul than Barr actually did for himself. They're both douche bag politicians trying to find the right crowd to please IMO.

TCE
07-28-2009, 02:20 PM
Yet I think I did more campaigning for Ron Paul than Barr actually did for himself. They're both douche bag politicians trying to find the right crowd to please IMO.

I am not denying that. He seemingly knew that he had no chance and tailored his "campaigning" to that fact.

Kraig
07-28-2009, 02:22 PM
I am not denying that. He seemingly knew that he had no chance and tailored his "campaigning" to that fact.

Yeah you have to wonder why he even bothered getting the position other than to add "I ran for president in 2008" to his resume.

TCE
07-28-2009, 02:32 PM
Yeah you have to wonder why he even bothered getting the position other than to add "I ran for president in 2008" to his resume.

According to someone I know who knows a former advisor of his, he is planning to get himself back into the political limelight. I have no idea why.

Kraig
07-28-2009, 02:35 PM
According to someone I know who knows a former advisor of his, he is planning to get himself back into the political limelight. I have no idea why.

lol maybe he just likes being on TV :confused:

TCE
07-28-2009, 02:38 PM
lol maybe he just likes being on TV :confused:

Bushy mustache>Sexy black man with charisma.

Kraig
07-28-2009, 02:39 PM
Bushy mustache>Sexy black man with charisma.

/startsgrowingmustache

KCIndy
07-28-2009, 02:45 PM
If you seek a used car, he can sell you one. If you seek libertarianism, he's not your guy. (IMO)

100% Agree!!

If there was ever such a thing as a "LINO" - Libertarian In Name Only - Wayne Root would be the man. He's backed away from a few of his more rabid "pro-big-government" positions lately, but IMHO that's just because he knew he had to in order to "talk the talk" for his Libertarian VP candidacy. He's "Republican Lite" at best, again my opinion.

If anyone checks out his position on issues on his RootForAmerica web site, you'll find:

*I support dramatically reduced government entitlement programs.
*I support dramatically reduced corporate welfare
*I support the hiring of fewer Government bureaucrats.
*Drastically reduced foreign aid

What's with this "reduced" crap?? Especially in regard to corporate welfare and government entitlement programs??? That's enough to lose my vote right there.

I really hope he's not the Libertarian nominee in 2012.... :(

heavenlyboy34
07-28-2009, 02:52 PM
100% Agree!!

If there was ever such a thing as a "LINO" - Libertarian In Name Only - Wayne Root would be the man. He's backed away from a few of his more rabid "pro-big-government" positions lately, but IMHO that's just because he knew he had to in order to "talk the talk" for his Libertarian VP candidacy. He's "Republican Lite" at best, again my opinion.

If anyone checks out his position on issues on his RootForAmerica web site, you'll find:

*I support dramatically reduced government entitlement programs.
*I support dramatically reduced corporate welfare
*I support the hiring of fewer Government bureaucrats.
*Drastically reduced foreign aid

What's with this "reduced" crap?? Especially in regard to corporate welfare and government entitlement programs??? That's enough to lose my vote right there.

I really hope he's not the Libertarian nominee in 2012.... :(

+a zillion!

Kraig
07-28-2009, 02:56 PM
Speaking of "reduced crap", here is a nice contradiction:


Focusing on the need to shrink the size of government—including the elimination of the IRS—Root proposes the dramatic reduction of government spending, lowering entitlements, reducing bureaucracy, increasing market freedom, reducing the tax burden on all Americans, and an end to the nanny state among many other ideas.


lower the income tax rate to empower Americans to save the money needed to invest in stocks

Unless for some reason he wants to get rid of the IRS but leave the income tax? :confused:

Jeremy
07-28-2009, 02:59 PM
You know what's funny? If he didn't run for president he wouldn't have all these haters. Think about that.

KCIndy
07-28-2009, 03:02 PM
Unless for some reason he wants to get rid of the IRS but leave the income tax? :confused:

Something like that, actually.

I believe his position was to eliminate the IRS and instead tax each state individually based on its population, leaving it up to each state to figure out how to collect from the population.

I didn't mention this because I don't have time to dig up the links....

Ugh.

idirtify
07-28-2009, 03:06 PM
As the libertarian message of truth grows in popularity, we will see more politicians emulating it. To what degree they actually believe it is largely beside the point. It’s the message that’s important; the person is secondary. Who cares who jumps on the bandwagon only to catch a ride, be they heroes or leaches? As long as the bandwagon is the truth, it’s all good. The more sorry-assed politicians who jump on board means all the more the message will be heard (hell, MOST politicians are sorry-assed leaches anyway).

KCIndy
07-28-2009, 03:07 PM
You know what's funny? If he didn't run for president he wouldn't have all these haters. Think about that.

I don't hate the guy.

I just don't believe that HE really believes in his own positions on the issues. Either that, or he has never really understood the concept of small-"l" libertarianism. If you read through his complete stand on the issues, he comes across sounding a lot more like a GW Bush Jr. than any libertarian/Libertarian in the mold of Harry Browne or Ron Paul.

KCIndy
07-28-2009, 03:09 PM
As the libertarian message of truth grows in popularity, we will see more politicians emulating it. To what degree they actually believe it is largely beside the point. It’s the message that’s important; the person is secondary. Who cares who jumps on the bandwagon only to catch a ride, be they heroes or leaches? As long as the bandwagon is the truth, it’s all good. The more sorry-assed politicians who jump on board means all the more the message will be heard (hell, MOST politicians are sorry-assed leaches anyway).



If a politician doesn't believe in his own self-espoused principles, exactly how long do you think he will feel the need to adhere to them?

idirtify
07-28-2009, 03:43 PM
If a politician doesn't believe in his own self-espoused principles, exactly how long do you think he will feel the need to adhere to them?

It depends on how long they can do what they do best: fake sincerity. Lots of them do it their whole life. And they do it because they know they have to appear like they believe what their constituents believe. Look, I’m all for honesty, but I also recognize that is asking a lot of a politician. Most of them are actors and phonies who only “believe” what will get them the farthest. They are masters at assessing trends concerning popular opinion and then acting dedicated to them. If this message of individual freedom and anti-government catches on, you will see lots of them suddenly turning over new leafs and passionately endorsing libertarian principles. We might as well get used to it and see it as a good thing IMO. Besides, most regular people are the same; they only believe most things because it’s what their peer groups believe. All I’m saying is we need to keep the message separate from the messenger; since the latter is susceptible to all the typical human frailties and passions, and the former is the only thing that will save our sorry asses. Information is King and we are his subjects.

ChaosControl
07-28-2009, 03:44 PM
Hard for me to detest Root as much as people do here when we got a filthy tyrant like Obama in WH. I'd swap Root in any day.

haaaylee
07-28-2009, 04:10 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/take-back-america-tea-party
Wayne Allyn Root speaks about an hour into the video--

I liked his speech, he even home schools.

This is from the Austin July 4th Tea Party.

TCE
07-28-2009, 04:44 PM
As the libertarian message of truth grows in popularity, we will see more politicians emulating it. To what degree they actually believe it is largely beside the point. It’s the message that’s important; the person is secondary. Who cares who jumps on the bandwagon only to catch a ride, be they heroes or leaches? As long as the bandwagon is the truth, it’s all good. The more sorry-assed politicians who jump on board means all the more the message will be heard (hell, MOST politicians are sorry-assed leaches anyway).

Agreed. If Barney Frank wakes up tomorrow and falls in love with 1207, gives it a hearing, and moves to get it out of committee, are we going to say "screw you, you suck, so we don't want your favors!" I pray not.

Brian Defferding
07-28-2009, 04:46 PM
Anyone here actually read the book yet?

speciallyblend
07-28-2009, 05:28 PM
I don't hate the guy.

I just don't believe that HE really believes in his own positions on the issues. Either that, or he has never really understood the concept of small-"l" libertarianism. If you read through his complete stand on the issues, he comes across sounding a lot more like a GW Bush Jr. than any libertarian/Libertarian in the mold of Harry Browne or Ron Paul.

harry browne is the only reason i even listened to ron paul and joined the republican party. may harry browne look over all of us with smiles:)

harry browne did more for the republican party and ron paul and libertarians then anyone will ever know!

gls
07-28-2009, 05:42 PM
Root gave $1000 to liberal war hawk Joe Lieberman in 2006, yet was the Libertarian Party's Vice-Presidential nominee in 2008? Give me a break.

http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?26020893465

Nathan Hale
07-28-2009, 06:17 PM
People are not against more books on libertarianism. People are against books about libertarianism written by non-libertarians. Root may have run as a libertarian, but he is by no means a libertarian.

Why? Does he not fall in the libertarian quadrant of the political spectrum?

Young Paleocon
07-28-2009, 06:18 PM
I don't trust him, he seems disingenuous and self-absorbed. Leaving out all of his contradictions on his campaign website and invoking Ron Paul's name every time he gets a tv interview in order to connect himself to RP, the thing that really turned me off to him was one of his speeches at the LP convention in 2008 in which he connected his mother's fight with cancer to him being a fighter.....Douchebag.

Nathan Hale
07-28-2009, 06:21 PM
*I support dramatically reduced government entitlement programs.
*I support dramatically reduced corporate welfare
*I support the hiring of fewer Government bureaucrats.
*Drastically reduced foreign aid

What's with this "reduced" crap?? Especially in regard to corporate welfare and government entitlement programs??? That's enough to lose my vote right there.

I really hope he's not the Libertarian nominee in 2012.... :(

So "dramatically reduced" isn't enough for you? American politics moves slowly, you can't possibly win by advocating the total elimination of everything people have grown to accept as normal.

Nathan Hale
07-28-2009, 06:24 PM
I don't trust him, he seems disingenuous and self-absorbed. Leaving out all of his contradictions on his campaign website and invoking Ron Paul's name every time he gets a tv interview in order to connect himself to RP, the thing that really turned me off to him was one of his speeches at the LP convention in 2008 in which he connected his mother's fight with cancer to him being a fighter.....Douchebag.

LOL. I agree, he's a douchebag! But, it's important to realize that douchebags have something to teach us about marketing and sales. And unfortunately, marketing and sales are the bread and butter of getting things done in electoral politlcs. So while Root is a douchebag, if he's the only guy in NV who is remotely libertarian and capable of winning the Vegas mayoral race, then he's my guy.

Peace&Freedom
07-28-2009, 09:55 PM
As the libertarian message of truth grows in popularity, we will see more politicians emulating it. To what degree they actually believe it is largely beside the point. It’s the message that’s important; the person is secondary. Who cares who jumps on the bandwagon only to catch a ride, be they heroes or leaches? As long as the bandwagon is the truth, it’s all good. The more sorry-assed politicians who jump on board means all the more the message will be heard (hell, MOST politicians are sorry-assed leaches anyway).

Very important point. As long as Root substantially conforms to what Paul stands for, he's okay. Even neocons can have a Damascus road experience. But what if he is fronting? I have been saying we should keep the concrete agenda Paul advanced in his 2007-2008 Presidential campaign front and center, to keep our movement from becoming hollowed out from within.

Once revering Paul becomes as universal as Reagan worship, politicans will be likewise invoking his name without necessarily promoting any of his core issues. So we should reference a common platform to vet all past and future alleged Paulites. The touchstone can be as simple as the slimjim language, scanned here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?1xp2rmwjxao

Here's a run down of 'the liberty platform' verbatim from the 2008 slim jim:

A Ron Paul Presidency will:

--let Americans keep more of their own money.
--end the IRS.
--stop the central bankers' "inflation tax."
--stop unconstitutional spending leading us to bankruptcy.
--stop the financial dependency on China, Saudi Arabia. and other foreign governments.
--oppose trade deals and groups that threaten American Independence (incl. the UN, GATT, NAFTA, NAU, WTO, CAFTA, ICC).
--protect our privacy and stop the national ID card.
--protect our constitutional rights and end the 'Patriot" Act.
--secure our borders and end illegal immigration.
--end "birthright" citizenship for illegal aliens.
--bring our troops home from no-win "police actions."

I would have added truth issues to the list, but I know some folks have trouble with standing for the truth.

powerofreason
07-28-2009, 10:00 PM
Ugh. *pukes*

powerofreason
07-28-2009, 10:02 PM
I have a better name for the book:

Conscience of a Self-Aggrandizing Fake Libertarian Asshole

heavenlyboy34
07-28-2009, 10:34 PM
I have a better name for the book:

Conscience of a Self-Aggrandizing Fake Libertarian Asshole

That seems to fit WAR to a tee! ;)

MRoCkEd
07-28-2009, 10:35 PM
I'm pissed that he was the first to write this. Judge Napolitano mentioned on Freedom Watch to Wayne that he was envious of the title because he planned on writing one called that.

Wayne's response: "Wait until you hear the subtitle!!!"

dr. hfn
07-28-2009, 10:44 PM
i wouldn't vote for him as the Libertarian Party nominee, but i will buy his book and reccomend it to others. I will spread this book around to try and spread libertarianism. He's like Glenn Beck and I don't trust him, but he does help the cause.

free.alive
07-28-2009, 10:56 PM
=Peace&Freedom;
I would have added truth issues to the list, but I know some folks have trouble with standing for the truth.

snore.

Ah yes, unsubstantiated "truth" - which makes for a perfect political liability. Thanks for the pr assistance, truthers...

KCIndy
07-29-2009, 12:47 AM
So "dramatically reduced" isn't enough for you? American politics moves slowly, you can't possibly win by advocating the total elimination of everything people have grown to accept as normal.

Look, if Root was the *only* libertarian-minded candidate on the ballot, and my only choices were, say, Obama for re-election, Rudy Giuliani for the Republicans, and Root on the Libertarian ticket, I guess I would probably hold my nose, vote for Root, and hope for the best. As long as there are candidates out there who have a longer and more positive record of "small -l" libertarian thought such as Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin (okay, Baldwin's about 90%) or the late, great Harry Browne, Root will never get my vote.

My biggest complaint with Mr. Root is that his speeches and positions sound exactly like that of GW Bush before he was elected: Smaller government, reduced this and that, less foreign entanglements, blah blah blah.... Well, ol' GW gave me the same feeling of "willies" back then as Wayne Root is giving me now. It's only my opinion, but it sure feels like he's simply spouting "Republican Lite" dialog that he confuses with true libertarianism.

Here's a book review of "Conscience" from the blog "Classically Liberal" that more or less speaks for my feelings, too:
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2009/07/conscience-of-bullshit-artist.html

Bottom line for me is, if I'm going to vote for someone based only on what they're saying at the moment, in the hopes that they'll actually follow their words with identical actions, then why are we not all voting for the likes of Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, etc.? After all, just like George W. Bush before them, they're saying pretty much the same stuff that Root is saying now.

Peace&Freedom
07-29-2009, 06:37 PM
snore.

Ah yes, unsubstantiated "truth" - which makes for a perfect political liability. Thanks for the pr assistance, truthers...

It's highly substantiated, for those who aren't snoring. Paul indeed thanks truthers for their assistance, by his doing things like appearing yet again on the Alex Jones show, today. Notice how the rest of my post was ignored so he could focus only on the one line he dislikes. It's this kind of thin-skinned intolerance that was and is the real liability crippling the movement.

Brian Defferding
07-30-2009, 09:07 AM
Again - anyone here on the RP forums read the book yet?