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bobbyw24
07-24-2009, 04:50 AM
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14098305

Saving the Republicans

Two possible candidates to lead the party out of the wildernessAP

POLITICIANS capable of renewing the unpopular and demoralised Republican Party are hard to find in the Senate, where they cannot even mount a filibuster these days. Neither do state governors promise much: scandal, resignation and botched appearances on the national stage have hurt the ambitions of South Carolina’s Mark Sanford, Alaska’s Sarah Palin and Louisiana’s Bobby Jindal respectively.

So conservatives seeking saviours are increasingly alighting upon the House of Representatives, and especially the youthful duo of Eric Cantor, the Republican whip, and Paul Ryan (pictured above), the party’s senior member on the budget committee. Both represent swing states: Mr Cantor, 46, is from Virginia, Mr Ryan, 39, from Wisconsin. Both leapfrogged older stalwarts to get their current posts (Mr Cantor is the most senior House Republican after the minority leader, John Boehner, who is 59). Along with Kevin McCarthy, a representative from California, they run the Young Guns, a team of House Republicans devoted to helping favoured candidates get elected.

Neither man is widely mooted as a presidential candidate, at least not yet. Conservative pundits initially regarded Mr Cantor, a prodigious fund-raiser and peripatetic campaigner reportedly considered as a running-mate by John McCain last year, as the obvious leader. Mr Ryan, a prolific source of policy ideas, was considered the thinker. More recently, however, Mr Ryan has come to be seen by many as the more natural front-man.

But whatever the division of labour, it is not hard to see the two men’s usefulness to their party. Their determination to produce alternatives rather than mere opposition to Democratic policies should help to prevent the Republicans from being typecast as the party of “no”. And they are generally more mindful of the tone they strike than older, grouchier Republicans. Mr Ryan’s political hero is the late Jack Kemp, the soul of sunny conservatism.

Both are also conversant with life outside the conservative bubble. Mr Cantor, the only Jewish Republican congressman, has a wife who hails from a prominent Democratic family (“a mixed marriage”, he calls it). Mr Ryan is one of the few senior House Republicans to represent a competitive district in a swing state. His district, won by Barack Obama in the presidential election, contains lots of union members.

But if a Republican recovery requires a centrewards shift in some of the party’s economic thinking, the two men seem less plausible agents of change. For if their dynamism is evocative of Newt Gingrich’s mid-term revolution of 1994, so too is their zeal for small government. True, a “road map for America’s future”, published by Mr Ryan last year, included ideas for broadening health-care coverage. But it focused on steep cuts to taxes and entitlements. Budding congressmen seeking the support of the Young Guns must demonstrate a commitment to shrinking the state.

All this is more coherent than the big-government conservatism of the Bush years. Mr Ryan understandably defines himself against the profligate House Republicans of that era. But whether this is enough to win back floating voters is unclear—despite gathering worries about the deficit under Mr Obama. Both men have devoured the recent slew of books attempting to sketch a path back to power for the Republicans. But their authors, including David Frum, Ross Douthat and Reihan Salam, agree that the party needs to become more open-minded about government intervention if it is to address popular worries, such as the environment and the stagnation of middle-class incomes.

Democrats are frustrated that Mr Ryan in particular is being defined more by his amiable personality than his conservative take on economics. That may not last as he comes under more scrutiny. There are also obstacles to Mr Cantor and Mr Ryan from within. Some older Republicans are resentful of their rapid rise and their hostility to Washington orthodoxy, including the pork-barrel culture. But if the party is serious about leaving the wilderness, it cannot be choosy about who leads them out.

Athan
07-24-2009, 11:34 AM
Give them time to screw up. It seems that God is sending the republicans the following message:

"Ron Paul 2012 or BUST."

IPSecure
07-24-2009, 11:54 AM
It seems that God is sending the republicans the following message:

"Ron Paul 2012 or BUST."

I like it, yes I do, I like it, It's only Rock'n'Roll, and I like it...

acptulsa
07-24-2009, 02:24 PM
"But if a Republican recovery requires a centrewards shift in some of the party’s economic thinking, the two men seem less plausible agents of change."

It's getting harder and harder to take the Brits seriously. 'Centreward' is 'change'?! And that's where the Republicans need to go?

Pfft.

malkusm
07-24-2009, 02:27 PM
Nooo, Cantor is terrible! I don't know much about Ryan, though.

Cowlesy
07-24-2009, 02:29 PM
Nooo, Cantor is terrible! I don't know much about Ryan, though.

+1000

Eric Cantor is no friend of conservative republicans.

federalistnp
08-07-2009, 07:44 AM
I like Paul Ryan and think he has the image to oppose Obama. All the while, RP has the sage leadership to offer the total package.

I think God is telling us: Ron Paul & Paul Ryan 2012. Paul-Ryan 2012!

erowe1
08-07-2009, 09:27 AM
There are only 17 congressmen who opposed all the bailouts, and Cantor and Ryan don't make the cut:
http://www.rlc.org/2009/03/26/17-courageous/

catdd
08-07-2009, 09:36 AM
give them time to screw up. It seems that god is sending the republicans the following message:

"ron paul 2012 or bust."


lol

georgiaboy
08-07-2009, 09:36 AM
There are only 17 congressmen who opposed all the bailouts, and Cantor and Ryan don't make the cut:
http://www.rlc.org/2009/03/26/17-courageous/

^all i needed to no [sic].


bailouting is a litmus test for me.

iddo
08-07-2009, 10:12 AM
There are only 17 congressmen who opposed all the bailouts, and Cantor and Ryan don't make the cut:
http://www.rlc.org/2009/03/26/17-courageous/

This list is much too generous, Cantor and Ryan are among those who voted in favor of the initial bailout (that was defeated before the other Republicans were pressured to vote in favor the 2nd time around):
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
I remember Cantor having a press conference blaming Pelsoi for insulting Republicans and that's why this great bailout plan of Paulson/Bernanke/Bush didn't pass...

erowe1
08-07-2009, 10:16 AM
This list is much too generous, Cantor and Ryan are among those who voted in favor of the initial bailout (that was defeated before the other Republicans were pressured to vote in favor the 2nd time around):
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
I remember Cantor having a press conference blaming Pelsoi for insulting Republicans and that's why this great bailout plan of Paulson/Bernanke/Bush didn't pass...

Thanks for catching that one. But, interestingly enough (and I think predictably), the same 17 congressmen who voted no on those other 5 all voted no on this one, at least as far as I could tell in my brief check. It is good to have this additional ammo against Cantor and Ryan, though.

Brian4Liberty
08-07-2009, 10:53 AM
I started a thread dedicated to who Fox News Sunday (neo-conservative central) pushes as a potential GOP Presidential candidate. Paul Ryan was their second featured "up and coming" GOP leader:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=195409