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LibertyEagle
09-25-2007, 02:09 PM
A Marty Beckerman (sp?) was just on MSNBC talking about Southpark conservatives (young people) being much like Barry Goldwater libertarian-conservatives. He said by in large, they were voting for Obama. When asked about Paul, he said the problem was that he attracted people that were afraid that the New World Order was going to invade their trailers. :(

Bottom line, he seemed to think that Obama had the young libertarian-conservatives. I don't get it.

Man, we've got to get busy on college campuses. It's beyond ridiculous that a libertarian-conservative would vote for anyone other than Ron Paul!

RP4ME
09-25-2007, 02:13 PM
A Marty Beckerman (sp?) was just on MSNBC talking about Southpark conservatives (young people) being much like Barry Goldwater libertarian-conservatives. He said by in large, they were voting for Obama. When asked about Paul, he said the problem was that he attracted people that were afraid that the New World Order was going to invade their trailers. :(

Bottom line, he seemed to think that Obama had the young libertarian-conservatives. I don't get it.

Man, we've got to get busy on college campuses. It's beyond ridiculous that a libertarian-conservative would vote for anyone other than Ron Paul!


He made absolutely no sense and sought to marginalize teh most libertarain candidare RP as a NWO fringe lunatic.....sad that the truth is so obsured so obscured these days but yes we have work to do on campuses

itsnobody
09-25-2007, 02:13 PM
Yeah he mentioned Ron Paul briefly...but wtf was he saying?

brumans
09-25-2007, 02:16 PM
He was OBVIOUSLY a barack obama supporter and made every effort to tell us why he is "the best candidate"

kalami
09-25-2007, 02:17 PM
the guy is young so he MUST have an idea of what's going on

barry goldwater conservatives vote for obama? his opinion counts for shit

Ridiculous
09-25-2007, 02:23 PM
When asked about Paul, he said the problem was that he attracted people that were afraid that the New World Order was going to invade their trailers.

Although I am a Paul supporter, from what I have seen on here, there are plenty of people who would fall into that category....

(although perhaps, house or apartment, rather than trailer)

njandrewg
09-25-2007, 02:25 PM
Obama is the Fred Thompson of the Democratic Party.

All talk no substance. And his supporters are there to jump on the bandwagon

Elwar
09-25-2007, 02:27 PM
I've read an article before about the "South Park conservative". Completely ignoring the fact that one of the writers of South Park is a card carrying member of the Libertarian Party.

devil21
09-25-2007, 02:30 PM
I was pretty baffled by that guy too. He got caught on a question ("Conservatives are voting for Obama??") and tried to act like he lost audio while he stuttered because of the absurdity of the statement. They put anybody on TV these days.

Nevermind that the South Park producers themselves said they hate liberals more than conservatives.

kalami
09-25-2007, 02:30 PM
Is there any significant distinction between a "south park conservative" and a libertarian?

LibertyEagle
09-25-2007, 02:31 PM
Although I am a Paul supporter, from what I have seen on here, there are plenty of people who would fall into that category....

(although perhaps, house or apartment, rather than trailer)

Yes, but that is far from what Dr. Paul is all about. What is the New World Order anyway? NAFTA superhighway? Well, that's a reality. How about the SPP? That is too. Or, how about plans to create a new currency called the Amero? Is that so crazy, since it is in CFR task force plans and has even been discussed on CNBC? How about open borders? check, we're doing that too.

So, I'm back to my shock at anyone having the audacity to claim that Obama is anything close to a Goldwater-conservative. What a laugh!! Ron Paul is the ONLY one that can make that claim.

Paulitician
09-25-2007, 02:36 PM
When asked about Paul, he said the problem was that he attracted people that were afraid that the New World Order was going to invade their trailers.
Argh! The bullshit superficiality that surrounds these elections.

fletcher
09-25-2007, 02:41 PM
No libertarian conservative would ever vote for Obama. The guy is an idiot.

Brock Landers
09-25-2007, 02:45 PM
I know a lot of "South Park Conservatives", if you will...and the vast majority of the ones I know are voting for Ron Paul. Maybe some others are voting for Obama and they didn't want to tell me, but I'd say in my group of friends that would be a 'fringe' stance.

The guy is either an idiot or disingenuous.

SeanEdwards
09-25-2007, 02:49 PM
I've said it before, Obama doesn't have a platform. He's a running on charisma alone. As a consequence, we have talking heads like this clown on msnbc trying to spin him as a black Goldwater. That same idiot could very well appear on CNN and spin Barack as a black FDR or something.

99% of American politics is not political at all, it's a madison avenue sell job dressed up as politics. Mass marketers study what works to sell product as a science, and they bring that knowledge to bear on the election process.

Ridiculous
09-25-2007, 02:55 PM
I know a lot of "South Park Conservatives", if you will...and the vast majority of the ones I know are voting for Ron Paul. Maybe some others are voting for Obama and they didn't want to tell me, but I'd say in my group of friends that would be a 'fringe' stance.

The guy is either an idiot or disingenuous.

I know a lot of "South Park conservatives as well" Most 25-35. Most had to be told about Paul, but will vote for him after they hear about him. The people that I know aren't too especially fond of politics but vote republican simply for the hope of less taxes, and aren't too happy about the war. Most own a firearm of some type.

1000-points-of-fright
09-25-2007, 02:55 PM
Is there any significant distinction between a "south park conservative" and a libertarian?

From a lot of the postings I've seen from Libertarians on this forum, I'm beginning to think the significant distinction is a sense of humor.:D

constituent
09-25-2007, 03:00 PM
the whole Barack Obama hype reminds me of South Park. I can see (stan?)'s dad the geologist all talking about centuries of racism and the black struggle to unite against the white oppressor and the revival of social liberality during his youth...

wearing a shirt that says,

"i'm not a racist, that's why i'm voting for the black guy."

surf
09-25-2007, 03:04 PM
rather than bad mouth Obama, i think we should look at the alternative and be thankful he is offering up some competition. someone should do a poll: "regardless of how you think Ron will do against either of these two, who would you prefer to see get the D nom - Hillary or Obama"

i'd take Obama in a heartbeat. but that's not the point. Obama's gang could be potential RPers if Hillary (and opinion) keep moving this way.

So, South Park conservatives, or whatever that duchebag (sp?) called them that may be living a misguided life are still potential RPers.

Now, we need Trey and Matt to do a South Park "conversion" show to the viewers that may be leaning to someone other than Ron.

Cartman would make a great Rudy or Fred. Mrs. Garrison would be a good Rudy as well.

constituent
09-25-2007, 03:28 PM
the D nomination.... Gravel's got me on that one... just b/c of the referendum...

i don't know about passing laws per se, unless the law is designed specifically to check the power/legislation/rulings/etc. of the other branches...

but i've gone over my augmented referendum idea before and don't really feel like typing it all out again at this moment... let's just say his plan's got major flaws, but it is a step in the right direction, a step that only he seems willing to take....

that speaks volumes to me.

V-rod
09-25-2007, 03:37 PM
I can see it now, Matt and Trey Parker will do a piece that will make fun of Ron Paul and try to rip into his supporters enthusiasm. They are dicks enough to do something like that too. But I'll take the name recognition from that since anyone who followed Ron Paul for years knows he has logic and wisdom backing his stances and he is one of the most honest people in the government.

SeanEdwards
09-25-2007, 03:47 PM
I can see it now, Matt and Trey Parker will do a piece that will make fun of Ron Paul and try to rip into his supporters enthusiasm. They are dicks enough to do something like that too. But I'll take the name recognition from that since anyone who followed Ron Paul for years knows he has logic and wisdom backing his stances and he is one of the most honest people in the government.

No kidding, they'd have the gun nut characters walking around with RP signs talking about 9/11 being an inside job, and shooting random people.

You know they would. Even if they like Ron Paul they'd still rip on him.

I bet they'd have RP kill Kenny.

JosephTheLibertarian
09-25-2007, 04:09 PM
A Marty Beckerman (sp?) was just on MSNBC talking about Southpark conservatives (young people) being much like Barry Goldwater libertarian-conservatives. He said by in large, they were voting for Obama. When asked about Paul, he said the problem was that he attracted people that were afraid that the New World Order was going to invade their trailers. :(

Bottom line, he seemed to think that Obama had the young libertarian-conservatives. I don't get it.

Man, we've got to get busy on college campuses. It's beyond ridiculous that a libertarian-conservative would vote for anyone other than Ron Paul!

so libertarians vote for socialists these days? interesting.

Richandler
09-25-2007, 04:24 PM
I'm a South Park Libertarian. Been for Paul since the first debate and voted Libertarian in the last election.

JosephTheLibertarian
09-25-2007, 04:40 PM
that guy is a fool.. why would ANY libertarian vote for a god damn socialist? lol. that goes against 50% of the entire ideology!

devil21
09-25-2007, 04:56 PM
I can see it now, Matt and Trey Parker will do a piece that will make fun of Ron Paul and try to rip into his supporters enthusiasm. They are dicks enough to do something like that too. But I'll take the name recognition from that since anyone who followed Ron Paul for years knows he has logic and wisdom backing his stances and he is one of the most honest people in the government.

The name recognition would be great but thats why they wouldn't do it....still not enough people know about RP to justify a show about him. Not to mention they wouldnt have much ammo on RP to fill a whole show.

ThePieSwindler
09-25-2007, 05:02 PM
Obama is about as far-left and statist as one can get.. not sure why people like him so much or think theres anything special about him. I mean, unless you're a socialist-statist, of course.