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StudentForPaul08
07-16-2009, 09:31 PM
Well I looked into the other two candidates who have announced their bid for Senate in CT.

Rob Simmons (http://joinrobsimmons.com/) has raised nearly $750,000.00 (http://joinrobsimmons.com/article/simmons-campaign-announces-record-fundraising-quarter) and has an endorsement from Fred Thompson (http://joinrobsimmons.com/article/fred-thompson-endorses-rob-simmons).

It seems the next in line is:

Tom Foley (http://www.tomfoley2010.com/), he has raised over $500,000.00 (http://www.tomfoley2010.com/news/)

So it seems *as of now* that leave Peter Schiff in third, needing some good endorsements (Ron Paul?) and a hefty fund raising number. (Money Bomb?).

Imperial
07-16-2009, 09:37 PM
It'd be epic if his client Rep. Alan Grayson(D) would endorse him, but that would basically destroy Grayson's influence and cred in the party.

StudentForPaul08
07-16-2009, 09:39 PM
It'd be epic if his client Rep. Alan Grayson(D) would endorse him, but that would basically destroy Grayson's influence and cred in the party.

Wow, Grayson is a EuroPac client? That is awesome :cool:

Thrashertm
07-16-2009, 10:05 PM
Peter claims it will be a $20M race.

He Who Pawns
07-16-2009, 10:27 PM
Fred Thompson. lol. I'm sure Peter is shaking in his boot there in CT.

That said, Peter needs to raise a LOT.

skyorbit
07-16-2009, 11:13 PM
Peter needs to raise about $20 Mil for the primery.

He Who Pawns
07-16-2009, 11:25 PM
No, not that much for the primary. Maybe 5 million.

Stary Hickory
07-18-2009, 08:59 AM
I put in 100 bucks just now. more on the bomb

Lovecraftian4Paul
07-18-2009, 04:32 PM
Seems like he might need $50,000-100,000 in the short term to convince him to run. This would at least imply there's a lot more on the way if he actually gets in. We were able to get Rand Paul over $100,000 in less than two months without a firm commitment from him yet.

Epic
07-18-2009, 04:47 PM
Seems like he might need $50,000-100,000 in the short term to convince him to run. This would at least imply there's a lot more on the way if he actually gets in. We were able to get Rand Paul over $100,000 in less than two months without a firm commitment from him yet.

I think he collected 50k at freedomfest

Stary Hickory
07-18-2009, 05:03 PM
I don't know how we can get 20 million. We need to do a lot more fundraising.....when Ron Paul ran it was a presidential election, hence a lot more interest. I will give another 400-500 on the Schiff bomb, and then I am done for awhile.

I really want Schiff to win, we need him in the Senate. We all know what Schiff can and will do up there.

Brian4Liberty
07-18-2009, 07:07 PM
Maybe this is a naive question. Why is so much money necessary? If you have supporters that will go door to door, distributing fliers, shouldn't that be enough? Maybe a few tv commercials?

It seems like raising money itself has become some type of measurement, but what good does it do? A mention on tv that you raised a bunch of money? It didn't help Ron Paul a whole lot.

Njon
07-20-2009, 12:20 PM
Maybe this is a naive question. Why is so much money necessary? If you have supporters that will go door to door, distributing fliers, shouldn't that be enough? Maybe a few tv commercials?

It seems like raising money itself has become some type of measurement, but what good does it do? A mention on tv that you raised a bunch of money? It didn't help Ron Paul a whole lot.

Right, raising money doesn't always equal victory. It's important, but strategy is more important. Direct mailers, door to door, maybe some automatic phone calling, TV and radio spots...yes, that costs money, but not $20 million worth.

Feenix566
07-20-2009, 12:33 PM
The fact of the matter is that most voters vote on name recognition. The most effective way of winning a small race (as in, anything other than President) is to put your candidates' name everywhere. That means direct mailers and television commercials, which cost money.

Paul or not at all
07-20-2009, 01:39 PM
Well I looked into the other two candidates who have announced their bid for Senate in CT.

Rob Simmons (http://joinrobsimmons.com/) has raised nearly $750,000.00 (http://joinrobsimmons.com/article/simmons-campaign-announces-record-fundraising-quarter) and has an endorsement from Fred Thompson (http://joinrobsimmons.com/article/fred-thompson-endorses-rob-simmons).

It seems the next in line is:

Tom Foley (http://www.tomfoley2010.com/), he has raised over $500,000.00 (http://www.tomfoley2010.com/news/)

So it seems *as of now* that leave Peter Schiff in third, needing some good endorsements (Ron Paul?) and a hefty fund raising number. (Money Bomb?).
July 27th is the money bomb date.

MRoCkEd
07-20-2009, 01:42 PM
July 27th is the money bomb date.
Actually, now it will be August 3rd

http://willyoufight.com/

No1ButPaul08
07-20-2009, 02:02 PM
I don't know how we can get 20 million. We need to do a lot more fundraising.....when Ron Paul ran it was a presidential election, hence a lot more interest.

If Peter wins the primary he will definitely get to 20 million. Yes it was a Presidential election when RP ran, but all of his money was raised during a primary in which many of his supporters didn't think he could win. If Peter were to win the primary and get a crack at Dodd he will have money coming in from all over the place.


The fact of the matter is that most voters vote on name recognition. The most effective way of winning a small race (as in, anything other than President) is to put your candidates' name everywhere. That means direct mailers and television commercials, which cost money.

Exactly. Hardly anyone in CT knows who Schiff is so he's going to have to spend a lot of money just letting people know who he is and that he's running for Senate.

It's not going to be cheap race. Franken-Coleman in MN cost $45 million. MN has a somewhat larger population but not big by any means. Chris Dodd is going to raise a ton of money, probably in the 20-25 million range, and the voters already know who he is (might not be good for Dodd at this point). Dodd probably won't have a serious contender in the primary. Schiff will need bare minimum 5 million to win primary and 15 total. 8 million for the primary and 20 total would be best

skyorbit
07-20-2009, 08:31 PM
Actually, now it will be August 3rd

http://willyoufight.com/

Peter's going to call it a day and decide for sure not to run, if it takes that long to see any real progress. He needs money now, if he's going to run.

Tracy

Njon
07-22-2009, 12:21 PM
Actually, now it will be August 3rd

http://willyoufight.com/

August 7th now; http://www.schiffathon.com/

thasre
07-22-2009, 06:10 PM
Regarding the 20 million dollar figure, I think that includes everything throughout the primary and general election season. It's worth noting, too, that if Schiff GETS the Republican Party nomination, a lot of the $20,000,000 will come from the Party itself and fundraisers it holds, not just internet supporters. It's not an unrealistic number.

skyorbit
07-22-2009, 07:31 PM
(I)f Schiff GETS the Republican Party nomination, a lot of the $20,000,000 will come from the Party itself and fundraisers it holds, not just internet supporters. It's not an unrealistic number.

Don't hold your breath. Remember when Ron Paul won the Republican Nomination his 2nd try at Congress? The national party had no money because they'd donated it all to his primary opponents. Some of the Republican establishment actually campaigned for the Democrat.

Count on absolutely NO help from the party. The $20 Mil, needs to be raised by us.

Personally, I think the $20 Mil needs to be raised for the Primary. Ron for the Primary. Don't save anything for the General. The general will come if he wins the Primary.

Tracy