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Bradley in DC
09-25-2007, 06:22 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297895,00.html

Black Forum Forges Forward as Republicans Continue to Bail Out
Monday, September 24, 2007
By Anju Kaur

WASHINGTON — Rep. Tom Tancredo is the latest presidential candidate to pull out of Thursday's Republican debate in Baltimore, which is quickly becoming a shadow of the June Democratic version that also focused on black issues.

Will the event go on if no one shows up?

If Tavis Smiley, moderator of the "All-American Presidential Forum" scheduled Thursday at historically black Morgan State University, has a say, it will.

"Tavis has said that if it is only him and Huckabee, they will have a debate," said Kimberly Logan, special projects manager of The Smiley Group, referring to former Arkansas Gov. Michael Huckabee.

The debate topics, to be presented during prime time on PBS and online by black journalists, are based on the book "Covenant with Black America," edited by Smiley, which outlines top domestic issues faced by blacks.

On June 28, all the Democratic front-running presidential contenders attended a similar debate at Howard University in Washington, also a historically black university.

The candidates confirmed to appear are: Huckabee, Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback, California Rep. Duncan Hunter, former diplomat Alan Keyes and Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

Although Tancredo of Colorado was also on the confirmation list sent by Carrie Johnson, a senior publicity director at PBS Media Relations, his campaign said backed out last week.

"With most of the top guys not attending, it is not in our best interest," said Alan Moore, Tancredo's press secretary. "He will be focusing on the upcoming primaries in Iowa and New Hampshire."

Tancredo joins four Republican front-runners to opt out of the PBS debate: former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Arizona Sen. John McCain, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, and actor and former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson.

U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., sent a letter to Republican National Committee leaders on Sept. 19 saying that he was "dismayed and personally offended" by the lack of participation and asked them "to persuade the entire Republican presidential field to participate."

"We would love to host all of them," said John Flynn, executive director of the Maryland Republican Party. "It would be a unique opportunity."

"There is no political mileage for them to come to this debate," said Ron Walters, professor of government and politics at the University of Maryland, College Park. Walters, who is African-American, said Republicans will not get the black vote, but missing the forum nevertheless projects the image that the party has given up on the community altogether.

"This will continue to make the Republican Party a party of whites and the Democratic Party a party of blacks," he added.

But the candidates who are coming are looking forward to the debate.

"He (Huckabee) is committed to it and to a group of people with whom he has had a strong relationship," said Alice Stewart, Huckabee's press secretary. He is ready "to debate issues important to the African-American community."

"When he (Paul) makes a commitment, he keeps it," said Jesse Benton, Paul's communication director. Paul was the first candidate to commit to the debate in June, he added. "He respects Tavis Smiley and PBS, and believes that diversity issues are important."

The GOP candidates earlier snubbed a debate on Latino issues scheduled for Sept. 16 in Miami by Univision, a Spanish-language network. Only McCain accepted its invitation and the forum was shut down.

"It's an insult," said Rep. Albert Wynn, D-Md. "They talk about the African-American vote, but actions speak louder than words."

The country is becoming more and more pluralistic, he added. And to ignore large segments of the population is "a recipe for disaster."

Capital News Service contributed to this report.

kickzman
09-26-2007, 11:30 AM
Man this debate might get ugly, thank God Ron is smart as hell.:D

Syren123
09-26-2007, 12:09 PM
What I don't get is why any candidate would skip this debate? Do they not plan to preside over a country with a number of black people? You'd think they'd be interested in at least PRETENDING to care about their concerns. It won't be a problem for Ron Paul tho as he DOES care about their concerns as they are AMERICANS and therefore his demographic.

Johnnybags
09-26-2007, 12:14 PM
What I don't get is why any candidate would skip this debate? Do they not plan to preside over a country with a number of black people? You'd think they'd be interested in at least PRETENDING to care about their concerns. It won't be a problem for Ron Paul tho as he DOES care about their concerns as they are AMERICANS and therefore his demographic.

He has a bold initiative to pardon many nonviolent drug offenders that will play well there, what on earth are we doing paying 50k a year for to house a weed dealer while many states are either selling it or decriminalizing it. We are letting it over the Mexican border. I am not a racist but many young minorities are in this very boat and their families get torn apart. I prefer siezing assets instead of illegal drug dealers or stiff fines.

aghman
09-26-2007, 12:19 PM
What I don't get is why any candidate would skip this debate? Do they not plan to preside over a country with a number of black people? You'd think they'd be interested in at least PRETENDING to care about their concerns. It won't be a problem for Ron Paul tho as he DOES care about their concerns as they are AMERICANS and therefore his demographic.

When candidates run without real ideas or principles, they will avoid any forum that will actually press them for answers. They simply can't operate without a script. Since PBS's debate will likely (hopefully) feature questions that will make people think, the other candidates (with their poor, atrophied brains) run in fear . Ron Paul, the thinking man that he is, won't have any problem. I'll be interested in how the other people there will handle themselves. How can a (neo-) conservative pander to a traditionally liberal audience?

Patriot
09-26-2007, 12:30 PM
FNC's crack news staff forgot to mention that the debate is 9/27 (Thursday night) at 8/7central. They do not want you to tune away from your normal viewing of BillO. :D

Patriot
09-26-2007, 12:36 PM
FNC's crack news staff forgot to mention that the debate is 9/27 (Thursday night) at 8/7central. They do not want you to tune away from your normal viewing of BillO. :D

Sorry, that;s 9/8central.

eleganz
09-26-2007, 01:38 PM
What I don't get is why any candidate would skip this debate? Do they not plan to preside over a country with a number of black people? You'd think they'd be interested in at least PRETENDING to care about their concerns. It won't be a problem for Ron Paul tho as he DOES care about their concerns as they are AMERICANS and therefore his demographic.

In my opinion, it doesn't matter if they skip the debate or not because the general public wouldn't know about this debate in the first place. Those who skipped the debate can keep pretending to care about African American issues and the people will continue to be blinded.

I just wish more people would watch these types of debates and also notice who wussied out and who stayed to man up on their word.

Cowlesy
09-26-2007, 01:47 PM
In my opinion, it doesn't matter if they skip the debate or not because the general public wouldn't know about this debate in the first place. Those who skipped the debate can keep pretending to care about African American issues and the people will continue to be blinded.

I just wish more people would watch these types of debates and also notice who wussied out and who stayed to man up on their word.

Agreed. The general public does not know of this debate. Were it not for Ron Paul, I wouldn't have a clue about this because I tune into PBS about 30 second a year.

M.Bellmore
09-26-2007, 04:20 PM
At least it's on some channel I actually get on my TV, unlike the last one.

Patriot
09-26-2007, 04:34 PM
In my opinion, it doesn't matter if they skip the debate or not because the general public wouldn't know about this debate in the first place. Those who skipped the debate can keep pretending to care about African American issues and the people will continue to be blinded.

I just wish more people would watch these types of debates and also notice who wussied out and who stayed to man up on their word.


Agreed. The general public does not know of this debate. Were it not for Ron Paul, I wouldn't have a clue about this because I tune into PBS about 30 second a year.


The story was on FNC. I think lots of Republican voters will know about it.

SeanEdwards
09-26-2007, 04:48 PM
What I don't get is why any candidate would skip this debate? Do they not plan to preside over a country with a number of black people? You'd think they'd be interested in at least PRETENDING to care about their concerns. It won't be a problem for Ron Paul tho as he DOES care about their concerns as they are AMERICANS and therefore his demographic.

They are afraid of being rhetorically attacked by a hostile audience. If they had their way, their debates would be done like this:

Candidates get all questions in advance, and pre-record their responses. Then the 'debate' consists of running the candidates pre-taped statements.