AlexAmore
06-03-2007, 03:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB3bJb4w3JY
This is an Excerpt from an Interview given by Amy Goodman from Democracy Now. She spends an hour with retired four-star General Wesley Clark. Here is a snippet of what he has to say about the War on Iraq, and the wars we may see in the future.
...About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, "Sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments." And he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail."
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Well, don't show it to me." And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, "You remember that?" He said, "Sir, I didn't show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!"
AMY GOODMAN: I'm sorry. What did you say his name was?
GEN. WESLEY CLARK: I'm not going to give you his name.
AMY GOODMAN: So, go through the countries again.
GEN. WESLEY CLARK: Well, starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon, then Libya, then Somalia and Sudan, and back to Iran.
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Now if you look at this letter from Project for a New American Century, you will see they have been planning the Iraq war for many many years (probably before 1998!):
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm. Look at the men who wrote the letter and are subsequently part of PNAC:
- Donald Rumsfeld
- Paul Wolfowitz - Former United States Deputy Secretary of Defense during the administration of President George W. Bush, he was a principal "architect" of the Iraq War. On June 1, 2005 he was appointed president of the World Bank Group, but resigned on May 17, 2007.
- Robert P. Zoellick - United States Deputy Secretary of State, resigning on July 7, 2006. Before holding this position, he served as U.S. Trade Representative, from February 7, 2001 until February 22, 2005. President George W. Bush nominated Zoellick on May 30, 2007 to replace Paul Wolfowitz as President of the World Bank. The nomination is subject to approval by the Bank's Board of Directors
The World Bank thing is kinda funny. Small world, huh? Anyways that's not really my point. My point is the Iraq war was being planned at least back in the 90s and the men who planned it - as luck would have it - are now in power. Wesley Clark proved further in his discussion that the Iraq war was not about taking out a country who is a threat to America....are the other six countries a threat to America? If they are then I ask, why? Perhaps Ron Paul might accuse our "bad foreign policy". No other reason I can think of.
Of course these countries aren't threats to us, especially if we can take them all out in 5 years. The motive behind these neocon globalists is control, that's all I can think of.
Maybe some of you guys can shed some light on this. :confused:
This is an Excerpt from an Interview given by Amy Goodman from Democracy Now. She spends an hour with retired four-star General Wesley Clark. Here is a snippet of what he has to say about the War on Iraq, and the wars we may see in the future.
...About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, "Sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments." And he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail."
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Well, don't show it to me." And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, "You remember that?" He said, "Sir, I didn't show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!"
AMY GOODMAN: I'm sorry. What did you say his name was?
GEN. WESLEY CLARK: I'm not going to give you his name.
AMY GOODMAN: So, go through the countries again.
GEN. WESLEY CLARK: Well, starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon, then Libya, then Somalia and Sudan, and back to Iran.
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Now if you look at this letter from Project for a New American Century, you will see they have been planning the Iraq war for many many years (probably before 1998!):
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm. Look at the men who wrote the letter and are subsequently part of PNAC:
- Donald Rumsfeld
- Paul Wolfowitz - Former United States Deputy Secretary of Defense during the administration of President George W. Bush, he was a principal "architect" of the Iraq War. On June 1, 2005 he was appointed president of the World Bank Group, but resigned on May 17, 2007.
- Robert P. Zoellick - United States Deputy Secretary of State, resigning on July 7, 2006. Before holding this position, he served as U.S. Trade Representative, from February 7, 2001 until February 22, 2005. President George W. Bush nominated Zoellick on May 30, 2007 to replace Paul Wolfowitz as President of the World Bank. The nomination is subject to approval by the Bank's Board of Directors
The World Bank thing is kinda funny. Small world, huh? Anyways that's not really my point. My point is the Iraq war was being planned at least back in the 90s and the men who planned it - as luck would have it - are now in power. Wesley Clark proved further in his discussion that the Iraq war was not about taking out a country who is a threat to America....are the other six countries a threat to America? If they are then I ask, why? Perhaps Ron Paul might accuse our "bad foreign policy". No other reason I can think of.
Of course these countries aren't threats to us, especially if we can take them all out in 5 years. The motive behind these neocon globalists is control, that's all I can think of.
Maybe some of you guys can shed some light on this. :confused: