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0zzy
07-10-2009, 12:09 AM
YouTube - Full Brüno Ron Paul Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VOm7SvwB98)


that guys ***** than the blazes, he took his clothes off, let's get going, he's *****, crazy, tried to hit on me, and took his clothes off.

THERE YOU HAVE IT! The magnificent homophobic we call Ron Paul!

Really now? We have to be PC in situations like this? "Don't call him a *****, because by saying that, you somehow assume all *****s are crazy who try to hit on you." f that bullcrap.

0zzy
07-10-2009, 12:20 AM
oy! outrage with me before this is deleted!

ps: some say this was 5 minutes long, but this is only 2. obviously the 2 most important minutes :X.

Pauls' Revere
07-10-2009, 12:24 AM
Who the hell set him up with this? I see no problem with him calling him a *****. Many gay folks use that term. I'm upset this wasn't researched by his staff better to avoid it altogether.

Kludge
07-10-2009, 12:30 AM
lololol, Ron Paul looked absolutely terrified.

0zzy
07-10-2009, 12:34 AM
Who the hell set him up with this? I see no problem with him calling him a *****. Many gay folks use that term. I'm upset this wasn't researched by his staff better to avoid it altogether.

Bruno's crew is pretty professional at what they do.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1164568/How-Sacha-Baron-Cohen-created-31-fake-companies-make-new-movie-Bruno.html

They set up 31 fake companies to make the movie. You could research all you want, but all you are going to find is a fake company.

BenIsForRon
07-10-2009, 12:38 AM
It's kind of like that show The Office, you're just have to laugh because it's so damn uncomfortable.

Conza88
07-10-2009, 12:38 AM
Awkward fessssttt.

Fck off Cohen.

ProBlue33
07-10-2009, 12:38 AM
I agree with Ron Paul, that guy is "***** as blazes" I would be mighty ticked off if a gay man suckered me into a hotel room like that and disrobed.

Screw the PC. Call it like you see it, like Ron Paul, I am sick of this BS PC that people are trying to shove down our throats. After all that's part of our hard earned freedom of speech too.

But it is funny in a way, the audience laughed.

sevin
07-10-2009, 12:40 AM
It just annoys me that now when I talk to the average joe about Ron Paul they're gonna say, "Oh, you mean that homophobe from Bruno?"

JoshLowry
07-10-2009, 12:43 AM
Not much laughter from the audience.

Ebert deliberately misrepresented the scene.

coyote_sprit
07-10-2009, 12:58 AM
Not much laughter from the audience.

Ebert deliberately misrepresented the scene.

My thoughts too, that scene is so short that you have to intentionally misrepresent to get anything out of it.

BudhaStalin
07-10-2009, 01:41 AM
In the end we must all learn how to laugh at ourselves but I find this kind of hard to even snicker at. I enjoyed Borat, and im pretty sure ill enjoy Bruno as well but I am most definitely unhappy at this. Of all the crooked and ass-hatted politicians out there, Cohen had to pick the most humblest and friendliest one. Maybe Barney Frank would have made a better choice.

Conza88
07-10-2009, 01:41 AM
It just annoys me that now when I talk to the average joe about Ron Paul they're gonna say, "Oh, you mean that homophobe from Bruno?"

Nah, that was Ru Paul..

:o

Hopefully that's how it is remembered..

Uriel999
07-10-2009, 01:47 AM
I thought that was pretty funny. And within the context of the situation nobody can blame him for his reaction.

Steeleye
07-10-2009, 02:15 AM
I loved it when he yelled at him. "Get outta here!" I've never heard him raise his voice in anger like that.

Also: "*****er than the blazes." I'm going to use that now.

paulim
07-10-2009, 02:48 AM
Because of this discussion I watched Borat on the interwebs (glad I didn't pay for it). Tell me, what is funny about that kind of stuff? Its pretty obvious what will come next in every scene, the statements are prepared and always aimed at TSHTF. The whole film is about betraying the trust of others, well done.
Now, this Ron-scene is the same, except that Ron is one of the few characters who are able to restore the order at the end... Thanks for this tube, saves me money again.

Objectivist
07-10-2009, 03:20 AM
That was classic stupid pulling a stunt on someone Dr. Paul' age.
I'd have grabbed is dick and dragged him out in the freekin street, oops SACK CHECK!

That was WAAAAYY not cool.

I guess when you have nothing of a routine stick your balls in peoples face is your only way to entertain.

Bring back Jackass!

MRoCkEd
07-10-2009, 07:44 AM
poor dr. paul... wow lol

pacelli
07-10-2009, 07:51 AM
I was impressed how Ron was just quietly standing there reading the paper while keeping an eye on Cohen. As soon as the pants were off, Ron was out. I don't think his reaction was inappropriate at all, nor his verbal comments. Cohen is lucky Ron didn't deck him.

By the way, what in the hell happened to all the graphic bullshit that was supposed to be in that scene?

It was a little amusing when Cohen asked him if he wanted champagne, but honestly the rest of the scene was pretty lame. If this is Cohen's version of comedy, the guy has clearly lost his edge.

pcosmar
07-10-2009, 08:02 AM
I was impressed how Ron was just quietly standing there reading the paper while keeping an eye on Cohen. As soon as the pants were off, Ron was out. I don't think his reaction was inappropriate at all, nor his verbal comments. Cohen is lucky Ron didn't deck him.

By the way, what in the hell happened to all the graphic bullshit that was supposed to be in that scene?

It was a little amusing when Cohen asked him if he wanted champagne, but honestly the rest of the scene was pretty lame. If this is Cohen's version of comedy, the guy has clearly lost his edge.

I see NOTHING humorous about it.
But then I have known men who were raped by other "men"and have had to fight my way out of a shower ( and disarm my attacker).
NOT funny. :(

acptulsa
07-10-2009, 08:02 AM
Well, I don't think any sane person will ultimately fault Dr. Paul's use of the word '*****' in the situation.

But I wouldn't have used it. I probably wouldn't have said anything; in any case Cohen wouldn't have known if I talked or not.

I wonder if he had to pay extra for cast insurance while he was running around deliberately trying to get his jaw broken?

zach
07-10-2009, 08:08 AM
That was awkward..

Dr.3D
07-10-2009, 08:12 AM
Well, the guy does appear to be ***** as a football bat.

Cowlesy
07-10-2009, 08:17 AM
Thanks for posting. I refuse to go to the theater and give that guy any sort of money.

I really wouldn't mind Cohen if he was just always a fruitloop, but if someone ever pulled a stunt on him while he was out of character, he'd go apesh*t.

paulitics
07-10-2009, 08:18 AM
Dr Paul was angry, and rightfully so. It just wasn't funny to do this to a 74 yr old. I will not be giving this guy any money.

GreenCardSeeker
07-10-2009, 08:18 AM
I'm a little inclined to think Paul realized what it was about and didn't react, but rather acted.. I mean, the normal reaction would be to become very provoked of course, and if you're not, I guess you could just walk out without saying anything. Maybe Paul wasn't provoked, but played along in a slightly humourous way when he left.

LibertyEagle
07-10-2009, 08:23 AM
Cohen is a jackass. He's lucky that he didn't get his jaw broken.

johnrocks
07-10-2009, 08:24 AM
He may have meant ***** as in odd but anyway,he's what 73, his generation used words that are not *PC* now, "***** Eye for the straight guy" was a hit a few years ago so if anyone dismisses Dr. Paul for not wanting to associate with that trash(not gays, Bruno) then screw em!

LibertyEagle
07-10-2009, 08:29 AM
Who cares? Screw political correctness.

Dr.3D
07-10-2009, 08:31 AM
Who cares? Screw political correctness.

Really! If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you call it a duck.
I don't see anything wrong with stating what appears to be a fact.

1000-points-of-fright
07-10-2009, 11:31 AM
RP can redirect any criticism by saying Cohen has set back the cause of gay rights by reinforcing the stereotype that all gay men are campy over-the-top hyper-sexually aggressive flamers. I'm surprised I haven't heard any serious gay rights groups saying the same thing.

I'm not a big fan of this kind of "ambush comedy". It's just lazy writing.

BenIsForRon
07-10-2009, 11:55 AM
I'm not 100% sure this movie will be good, but based on his past Bruno skits, its gonna be hilarious.

YouTube - Bruno meets Paris Hilton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pak5ALMdkbE)

YouTube - Brüno: Austria Gay TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhP0tOm6yt0)

muh_roads
07-10-2009, 11:56 AM
meh i'm disappointed. i think I built this up too much in my head thinking it would be so hysterical.

Paul was trying to be nice to what he thought was the gay community. Even tolerated his butt shaking for a second there...probably the funniest part...lol

Sandman33
07-10-2009, 12:06 PM
RP can redirect any criticism by saying Cohen has set back the cause of gay rights by reinforcing the stereotype that all gay men are campy over-the-top hyper-sexually aggressive flamers. I'm surprised I haven't heard any serious gay rights groups saying the same thing.

I'm not a big fan of this kind of "ambush comedy". It's just lazy writing.

Don't you see that the whole GOAL is to make not approving of just what you described a CRIME.

And if you even speak the truth like Dr. Paul just did they want to fine you and throw you in jail for "hate speech" Even though Dr. Paul said NOTHING hatefull at all. He just spoke the truth.

Freedom 4 all
07-10-2009, 12:47 PM
I see NOTHING humorous about it.
But then I have known men who were raped by other "men"and have had to fight my way out of a shower ( and disarm my attacker).
NOT funny. :(

I'm curious as to the context if you don't mind my asking. Was this like in prison or something, or were there aggresive gay rapists on your high school football team?

On Topic: Dr. Paul did/said nothing wrong. Most gays I know don't even find the word "*****" offensive. I'm generally pretty pro gay rights but if it was me I'd have definitely said something more offensive and/or knocked him out if he got pushy or tried to touch me.

Liberty Star
07-10-2009, 01:02 PM
Israel and Judaism

Baron Cohen first acted in theatrical productions featuring the Socialist-Zionist youth movement Habonim Dror.[51]

He spent a year in Israel at Kibbutz Rosh HaNikra and Kibbutz Beit HaEmek as part of the Shnat Habonim Dror, as well as taking part in the programme "Machon l'Madrichei Chutz L'Aretz" for Jewish youth movement leaders.


bruno cohen gets a fail in his youth leadership training.

He should have tried his antics on Lindsey Graham or Matt Drudge if he was looking for real entertainment.

pcosmar
07-10-2009, 01:13 PM
I'm curious as to the context if you don't mind my asking. Was this like in prison or something, or were there aggresive gay rapists on your high school football team?

On Topic: Dr. Paul did/said nothing wrong. Most gays I know don't even find the word "*****" offensive. I'm generally pretty pro gay rights but if it was me I'd have definitely said something more offensive and/or knocked him out if he got pushy or tried to touch me.

Yes, it was in prison.
I have also had a drink "micky'ed"at a Gay bar, (I was at a wedding reception) Good friends got me out and home.
I don't find the subject of rape amusing. Either Male or Female. It is not funny.

Golding
07-10-2009, 01:23 PM
Not quite the offensive "He's a *****!" outburst people were making it out to be. Not that big a deal, and it didn't sound like anyone was gasping or anything when he said it. I'd probably react the same way.

James Madison
07-10-2009, 02:26 PM
I'm not a big fan of this kind of "ambush comedy". It's just lazy writing.

I agree. You don't have to be funny to be an ambush comic, just able to stay in character while OTHER people make the jokes. Really, the people being duped in the movies should be getting paid because they're who make the movie "funny", not SBC. It's the equivalent of Family Guy, largely interchangeable jokes that typically have no relavence to the overall plotline. Lowest-common-denomenator humor here. Look away, children.

ctiger2
07-10-2009, 03:46 PM
Not quite the offensive "He's a *****!" outburst people were making it out to be. Not that big a deal, and it didn't sound like anyone was gasping or anything when he said it. I'd probably react the same way.

No doubt. Ron leaves the room and says: "alright, this has ended. That guy's *****er than the blazes. He took his clothes off. Let's get going. He's ***** as crazy. He put a hit on me, he took his clothes off."

Mandrik
07-10-2009, 04:05 PM
The type of anger he shows when he says "Get out of here!" is the type of anger & fire I want to see from him when he's grilling Bernanke. That would be something!

jmdrake
07-10-2009, 04:05 PM
Who the hell set him up with this? I see no problem with him calling him a *****. Many gay folks use that term. I'm upset this wasn't researched by his staff better to avoid it altogether.

Or better yet have a staff person with you at all times when you do an interview. A big, mean, doesn't mind hurting someone staff person.

For the record I've seen the scene where this scum does a stunt where he puts his butt in Eminem's face. Eminem looks just as angry and uncomfortable. And I think he was told that a stunt was going to happen but was lied to about the details.

brandon
07-10-2009, 04:18 PM
Kinda funny, kinda awkward. Ron needs to lighten up a little. If that happened to me I would have just laughed about it and left.

Philmanoman
07-10-2009, 04:19 PM
I see NOTHING humorous about it.
But then I have known men who were raped by other "men"and have had to fight my way out of a shower ( and disarm my attacker).
NOT funny. :(

I watched this with the idea that I dont have a clue who this guy is or why hes meeting with him,like I stumbled upon a new Ron Paul interview I hadnt seen yet.
Even though I knew what was going to happen I ultimately felt fearful for Ron.I can only imagine what might of been going through his head..."Is this guy going to pull a knife on me and try to mug me or worse"...

Nirvikalpa
07-10-2009, 04:25 PM
Yes, it was in prison.
I have also had a drink "micky'ed"at a Gay bar, (I was at a wedding reception) Good friends got me out and home.
I don't find the subject of rape amusing. Either Male or Female. It is not funny.

I agree. I don't find this funny at all, it is sick humor.

Jeremy
07-10-2009, 04:28 PM
Who the hell set him up with this? I see no problem with him calling him a *****. Many gay folks use that term. I'm upset this wasn't researched by his staff better to avoid it altogether.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=397

=p

0zzy
07-10-2009, 04:30 PM
Kinda funny, kinda awkward. Ron needs to lighten up a little. If that happened to me I would have just laughed about it and left.

are you....are you f'n kidding me?

Golding
07-10-2009, 04:41 PM
One thing I neglected to mention...

Ron seemed pretty tolerant by anyone's standards, only getting upset when Bruno dropped his pants. Seems like a reasonable threshold to have.

Philmanoman
07-10-2009, 04:42 PM
Maybe we should set up a very sly prank for brandonyates...some huge beastly manimal...muuwwahaaaa :p

Sandman33
07-10-2009, 04:48 PM
are you....are you f'n kidding me?

Yeah seriously...

Im watching that and I'm seeing an honorable man of integrity that may well be the last real hope for this country sit there on that bed staring at the floor......and I'm fucking ANGRY just watching it.

Here's a man with the most important message of all. A message and an ideal that quite honestly is the last thin string left before everything collapses into global TYRANNY and jack off Zionists like Cohen are laughing like schoolgirls and playing grabass.:mad:

That man deserves respect God Damnit. The propaganda bus trying to paint him as a gay hater can roll right off a cliff for all I care.

Liberty Star
07-10-2009, 04:52 PM
This may be slightly off topic but couple of conicedences seem weird.


Meghan McCain Tells Laura Ingraham: ‘Kiss My Fat A--’

Laura Ingraham had created some controversy before when allegedly she was at the center of rumors about Matt Drudge of Drudge Report dating some Israeli boy friend. Now she is creating some stir again by taking on Meghan McCain in an odd way:

Anyone knows how many different aliases Bruno Cohen uses?

Could he be the secret boyfriend of Drudge that Laura Ingraham had referred to with same last name?

MelissaWV
07-10-2009, 04:56 PM
*****... It doesn't just mean "homosexual person I don't like".


1. strange or odd from a conventional viewpoint; unusually different; singular: a ***** notion of justice.
2. of a questionable nature or character; suspicious; shady: Something ***** about the language of the prospectus kept investors away.
3. not feeling physically right or well; giddy, faint, or qualmish: to feel *****.
4. mentally unbalanced or deranged.
5. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. a. homosexual.
b. effeminate; unmanly.
6. Slang. bad, worthless, or counterfeit.

It's not even until the 5th definition we arrive at "homosexual"... and if you look at number four you will find the definition (coupled with number one) that people of Ron Paul's generation use "*****" for most regularly.

***** as blazes? Let's see... "strange or odd" as blazes? Yes. "Mentally unbalanced or deranged" as blazes? I'm sure Dr. Paul thought so at the time. "Suspicious or shady" as blazes? Definitely.

This reminds me very much of a long discussion as to whether or not a professor should be fired for describing two dark-skinned assistants as "niggardly". There was heated debate about it, and then someone finally pointed out that "niggardly" simply meant they were cheap and miserly, and it had nothing to do with being "racist". :rolleyes: I don't even know that Dr. Paul was referring to the guy's sexuality, and if someone has something from him stating he was, please direct me to it so I can dismiss my erroneous hypothesis :)

brandon
07-10-2009, 05:01 PM
***** has always been an acceptable term in the gay community. When I was younger I read several William Burroughs books (Gay beat author from the 50's) and his books were littered with the term "*****"

StayTrue
07-10-2009, 05:07 PM
If they woulda done this scenerio with a Bohemian Grove member, maybe they would have gotten some better footage :p

TruthisTreason
07-10-2009, 05:08 PM
Haha! I laughed.:D

dannno
07-10-2009, 05:12 PM
*****... It doesn't just mean "homosexual person I don't like".



It's not even until the 5th definition we arrive at "homosexual"... and if you look at number four you will find the definition (coupled with number one) that people of Ron Paul's generation use "*****" for most regularly.

***** as blazes? Let's see... "strange or odd" as blazes? Yes. "Mentally unbalanced or deranged" as blazes? I'm sure Dr. Paul thought so at the time. "Suspicious or shady" as blazes? Definitely.



The word ***** has been re-claimed by the homosexual/bi/transgender community, so it's really not derogatory unless it is said in a derogatory manner. 'That guy is *****' is not really derogatory, it's describing someone. 'That guy is *****er than blazes' is not derogatory. In fact, in Ron Paul's case it was about the most honest thing someone could have said, and I don't expect anything less from him.

'That ***** stole my lunch' IS derogatory, it's not a description, you're labeling someone.

orafi
07-10-2009, 05:38 PM
Who the hell set him up with this? I see no problem with him calling him a *****. Many gay folks use that term. I'm upset this wasn't researched by his staff better to avoid it altogether.

A simple google search could have saved him from that Authrian.

satchelmcqueen
07-10-2009, 05:45 PM
this isnt funny to me at all. i felt pretty bad and angry seeing paul sit there alone with what he thought was reality. i saw a frail man in the room with a much bigger and stronger man who had just disrobed, blocking the door way. forget political views, this is awful. makes it even worse that an honorable man like paul was the one they did this to. now as stupid and sheepish as most of this country is, the media and idiot people will bash paul for what he said, even though it was the truth. our gains have just had a major setback...just wait and see. i honestly see a crime, not a movie clip.

someone needs to set cohen up and do some weird shit to him. i dont care for eminem (sp?) but when cohen had his ass and balls in his face, eminem should have punched him right in the nuts.

dannno
07-10-2009, 05:49 PM
A simple google search could have saved him from that Authrian.

No, it wouldn't have saved him. Cohen did not call up and ask for an interview himself, they had somebody call up attempting to convince him to do an interview that sounded legitimate.

0zzy
07-10-2009, 05:49 PM
A simple google search could have saved him from that Authrian.

stop acting like you know that it could have been avoided. again, these people are professionals. you think they just say "Hey this is Bruno from Sasha Baren Cohen's Ali G show here to punk you?" No. They make up fake media companies and ask for an interview.


someone needs to set cohen up and do some weird shit to him. i dont care for eminem (sp?) but when cohen had his ass and balls in his face, eminem should have punched him right in the nuts.

that was faked.

james1906
07-10-2009, 05:57 PM
We all remember what RP has said about gays in the military. He's not opposed to homosexuality, but inappropriate sexual behavior. This wasn't about homosexuality, it was about inappropriate sexual behavior. If Dina Gusovsky (that little hottie from Russia Today that's interviewed him a couple times) started to disrobe in front of RP during an interview, I'm sure he would have left the room then too.

BenIsForRon
07-10-2009, 06:36 PM
Ron Paul is a big boy, he can handle it. As a matter of a fact, he handled it quite well. You guys are just making it worse by getting all bent out of shape.

I don't know why Cohen chose Ron Paul, but I imagine it's because Ron Paul isn't a hard guy to get an interview with, as Ron Paul talks to everybody. It would have been AWESOME if Cohen pulled the same stunt on Giuliani, but Giuliani only really does interviews for Fox News.

Cohen is genius, tell me this shit ain't funny:
YouTube - Ali G and Andy Rooney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KglSPl7g14Q)

Freedom 4 all
07-10-2009, 06:36 PM
If Dina Gusovsky (that little hottie from Russia Today that's interviewed him a couple times) started to disrobe in front of RP during an interview, I'm sure he would have left the room then too.

I wouldn't leave the room if she disrobed in front of me:D

Liberty Star
07-10-2009, 06:42 PM
I don't know why Cohen chose Ron Paul, but I imagine it's because Ron Paul isn't a hard guy to get an interview with, as Ron Paul talks to everybody.


Won't be surprised if it's because RP does not support aid to Israel and other countries or foreign military interventions on their behalf.

Cohen should have had no problem getting an interview with Lindsay Graham, McCain or Lieberman. Could he be a stealth media plant of anti American lobbies with agenda to increase homosexuality awareness and ridicule political opponents at the same time?

jbrace
07-10-2009, 06:43 PM
Not a big deal, I call a spade a spade, and it Cohen's position he is a *****.

2. *****: differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal b (1): eccentric, unconventional (2): mildly insane : touched c: absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : obsessed d (1)often disparaging : homosexual (2)sometimes offensive : gay 4b

Cohen's actions seemed to show *****ish behavior. The blazing I would have to say relates to being like a flame. Gay guys tend to wear bright colors and Cohen is known for that. So blazing ***** seems to fit him just right!

BenIsForRon
07-10-2009, 06:44 PM
You obviously don't know the Cohen's history. He was member of a Zionist school in favor of peace, not a strong Israeli state.

Liberty Star
07-10-2009, 06:50 PM
I don't, never haerd him ever speak against Isreali massacres or occupation policies in holy land? Have you?

Sandman33
07-10-2009, 06:59 PM
I don't, never haerd him ever speak against Isreali massacres or occupation policies in holy land? Have you?

No. Borat did have the "Running of the Jew" scene though.

Kludge
07-10-2009, 07:00 PM
YouTube - Borat - Throw the Jew Down the Well!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo)

Romulus
07-10-2009, 07:06 PM
Cohen is genius, tell me this shit ain't funny:


It's not funny.

Liberty Star
07-10-2009, 07:06 PM
That's our electorate LOL

That explains why we have so many problems.

BenIsForRon
07-10-2009, 07:08 PM
I just read that he pranks a Mossad agent in Bruno. So he obviously doesn't have a hard on for the Israeli military... OR IS THAT WHAT THEY WANT YOU THINK!!!!!1!!

Liberty Star
07-10-2009, 07:11 PM
I am just surprised and bit offended what criterion did he use to setup a noble man like RP of the nearly 400+ member strong Congress?

I don't know him very well, was just asking question and speculating for the most part.

Kludge
07-10-2009, 07:12 PM
YouTube - Ali G- Police Training (Full) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3iTxMuZBg)

AdamT
07-10-2009, 07:18 PM
That was just wrong. I think this pretty much sums it up via LRC.

Ron Paul vs. Sacha B. Cohen
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/029450.html


In his pan of the boring Brüno, Houston Chronicle Film Writer Mick LaSalle (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/movies/6522019.html) makes the point I’ve been waiting for:


In one scene, Brüno gets former presidential candidate Ron Paul, R-Lake Jackson, in a hotel room and tries to seduce him. Paul rushes out of the room horrified and, guess what, it’s not funny: A serious, accomplished man takes time out to do an interview. He’s treated appallingly, reacts with anger … and we’re supposed to think less of him? Don’t think so.

sharpsteve2003
07-10-2009, 07:41 PM
thanks for this

sharpsteve2003
07-10-2009, 07:46 PM
here is Ron Paul's response
YouTube - Ron Paul: "I should have punched Bruno" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHVnDQOsOic)

Fozz
07-10-2009, 07:50 PM
Ron Paul did nothing wrong, and I don't want to hear any nonsense from politically correct pro-gay leftists about how Ron Paul is homophobic or bigotted----he is not.

Kludge
07-10-2009, 08:01 PM
here is Ron Paul's response
YouTube - Ron Paul: "I should have punched Bruno" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHVnDQOsOic)

"I think, though, when this all gets out, I'm probably going to have to apologize to my supporters because I think most of them are going to figure out -- why didn't I sock this guy in the nose?"

lol....

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:05 PM
Everyone needs to relax. Ron Paul wasn't a victim, if you listen to the radio interview, he doesn't seem all that bothered.

catdd
07-10-2009, 08:07 PM
Ron's a gentleman from an older generation and they don't care for the kind of thing he did.

It was a stupid and disrespectful thing to do to an older guy - especially one that is in the public's eye the way Ron is.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:09 PM
Ron's a gentleman from an older generation and they don't care for the kind of thing he did.

It was a stupid and disrespectful thing to do to an older guy - especially one that is in the public's eye the way Ron is.

That's kind of the point, though. It's an immature comedy.

catdd
07-10-2009, 08:11 PM
Maybe they just don't realize that's it's not funny to everyone.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:12 PM
Maybe they just don't realize that's it's not funny to everyone.

His job or purpose is not to please everyone, it's to make money.

catdd
07-10-2009, 08:13 PM
At other people's expense?
But obviously Ron isn't taking it too hard, he's laughing about it in the interview.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:15 PM
At other people's expense?

Clearly, yes. Are you familiar with him?

catdd
07-10-2009, 08:16 PM
nope

0zzy
07-10-2009, 08:18 PM
Everyone needs to relax. Ron Paul wasn't a victim, if you listen to the radio interview, he doesn't seem all that bothered.

he wasn't a victim? get off cohen's penis why don't ya.

[Andy Kaufman]I GET ITTTTTTTt, I GET ITTTTTTTTTtt[/andy kaufman], it's a comedy! It's immature! We are supposed to laugh! hahahah! WOO!

But really, people, how far do we have to go? *rapes a woman* "HAHA IT'S OKAY GUYS! It's just for lolz! it's a movie I'm filming, and she just got PUNKD! OH YA!"

Dark_Horse_Rider
07-10-2009, 08:21 PM
Yeah I guess everything is just a joke to him.

Guess he doesn't see what is happening in the world today.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:22 PM
he wasn't a victim? get off cohen's penis why don't ya.

[Andy Kaufman]I GET ITTTTTTTt, I GET ITTTTTTTTTtt[/andy kaufman], it's a comedy! It's immature! We are supposed to laugh! hahahah! WOO!

But really, people, how far do we have to go? *rapes a woman* "HAHA IT'S OKAY GUYS! It's just for lolz! it's a movie I'm filming, and she just got PUNKD! OH YA!"

No, he wasn't. It was a joke. Listen to clip. He was annoyed, not victimized.

Get off Ron Paul's penis, why don't ya. And your rape comment was just epic fail.

rp08orbust
07-10-2009, 08:26 PM
If he had done that to a woman, would there be any doubt as to it being sexual assault? (Getting naked and standing in front of the exit.)

I think Ron Paul ought to sue.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:26 PM
Listen, this Ron Paul worship has got to go. Paul is by far the best politician in America, but let's have some perspective.

Cohen has been gagging politicians for almost a decade now. No one said a peep. If he did it to Obama or one of his ilk, people wouldn't be trashing the guy. But he does it to Ron Paul and people start losing it. Get it together.

ClayTrainor
07-10-2009, 08:27 PM
listen, this ron paul worship has got to go. Paul is by far the best politician in america, but let's have some perspective.

Cohen has been gagging politicians for almost a decade now. No one said a peep. If he did it to obama or one of his ilk, people wouldn't be trashing the guy. But he does it to ron paul and people start losing it. Get it together.

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:27 PM
If he had done that to a woman, would there be any doubt as to it being sexual assault? (Getting naked and standing in front of the exit.)

I think Ron Paul ought to sue.

Yes, THAT'S what we need. More lawyers wasting our time and exchanging money back and forth.

James Madison
07-10-2009, 08:28 PM
Listen, this Ron Paul worship has got to go. Paul is by far the best politician in America, but let's have some perspective.

Cohen has been gagging politicians for almost a decade now. No one said a peep. If he did it to Obama or one of his ilk, people wouldn't be trashing the guy. But he does it to Ron Paul and people start losing it. Get it together.

That's because Obama's a tool. You can't even begin to compare the two.

Light
07-10-2009, 08:28 PM
I'm with Ron Paul on this one. It really says something about our culture when people by the millions go to see trash films like Bruno. Ron Paul did nothing wrong by calling Cohen a *****. The PC police need to back off. Most people would have given that punk a whooping if Cohen tried to come onto them.

I am seriously shake my head at those that find these movies funny. Our culture is in serious disrepair, and in open attack. Its no coincidence why Cohen goes after traditional thought and behavior. The best way to subjogate a society is by creating an immoral one, by mocking traditional values and people with traditional values, Cohen is conditioning the youth of this generation into thinking that traditional values are archaic and need to be disgarded. Unfortunately, few people realize that when people have little responsbility in their personal lives, it only moves for the government to usurp the right for yourself to be responsible.

I know I will be flamed for having this opinion since its an unpopular one, however, I believe what makes this movement great is the broad range of perspective we have.

catdd
07-10-2009, 08:30 PM
"I think Ron Paul ought to sue."

So do I

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:32 PM
That's because Obama's a tool. You can't even begin to compare the two.

Now, THAT's just a ridiculous excuse, but at least you're honest.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 08:33 PM
I'm with Ron Paul on this one. It really says something about our culture when people by the millions go to see trash films like Bruno. Ron Paul did nothing wrong by calling Cohen a *****. The PC police need to back off. Most people would have given that punk a whooping if Cohen tried to come onto them.

I am seriously shake my head at those that find these movies funny. Our culture is in serious disrepair, and in open attack. Its no coincidence why Cohen goes after traditional thought and behavior. The best way to subjogate a society is by creating an immoral one, by mocking traditional values and people with traditional values, Cohen is conditioning the youth of this generation into thinking that traditional values are archaic and need to be disgarded. Unfortunately, few people realize that when people have little responsbility in their personal lives, it only moves for the government to usurp the right for yourself to be responsible.

I know I will be flamed for having this opinion since its an unpopular one, however, I believe what makes this movement great is the broad range of perspective we have.

Welcome. :)
I haven't seen the movie, will refuse to pay any money to see it, and liked Cohen (Ali G) in the past. That said,

This made ME uncomfortable, and had I been Ron Paul, I'm afraid I would have hit him.
Let me ask the women this, if a STRAIGHT man was hittin' ya up, took off his pants, and you had NO INTEREST in him whatsoever, what would YOU do? What would YOU say?

This shit is so freaking backwards.
Fuck Cohen. It's not funny anymore.

Golding
07-10-2009, 08:33 PM
Cohen is genius, tell me this shit ain't funnyI can tell you honestly, without the motivation of just defying your dare, that it wasn't funny. I didn't laugh or crack a smile through the whole thing. I watched Borat online maybe a year after it came out, and again -- I didn't laugh or crack a smile during the whole thing.

I don't mean to knock your taste in comedy or anything, but how anyone considers Cohen a genius is really beyond me. Whenever I hear people try to do a Borat accent, I'm reminded of the kind of people who went around going "I'm Rick James, bitch" for years. More annoying than entertaining.

It's not that I dislike the kind of comedy that comes from keeping real people guessing. Andy Kaufman was a genius. I just think Cohen does a terrible job at the "performance art"...

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:33 PM
"I think Ron Paul ought to sue."

So do I

Every time someone does something I don't like, I'm going to sue. Then, all of my problems will magically go away.

James Madison
07-10-2009, 08:34 PM
Now, THAT's just a ridiculous excuse, but at least you're honest.

How is that a ridiculous excuse?

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:36 PM
How is that a ridiculous excuse?

You're holding someone's behavior to different standards based on if you like the other person or not.

James Madison
07-10-2009, 08:37 PM
If he had done that to a woman, would there be any doubt as to it being sexual assault? (Getting naked and standing in front of the exit.)

I think Ron Paul ought to sue.

YouTube - Weird Al Yankovic - I'll Sue Ya (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfO9JUNXN7U)

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 08:37 PM
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Clay and Met,
I hear ya, but this shit is backwards!!

Let's see Cohen, in his next mockumentary, dress up like a red neck, and go pull down his pants in a hotel room with an unsuspecting woman...

I'll be waiting for that one... ;)

James Madison
07-10-2009, 08:40 PM
You're holding someone's behavior to different standards based on if you like the other person or not.

It has nothing to do with whether or not I like the guy. RP is fighting to save this country and what is stands for while Obama, the neocons, et al. publicly work for private offshore banks trying to destroy the few freedoms we have left.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:40 PM
Clay and Met,
I hear ya, but this shit is backwards!!

Let's see Cohen, in his next mockumentary, dress up like a red neck, and go pull down his pants in a hotel room with an unsuspecting woman...

I'll be waiting for that one... ;)

If anyone would, it'd be him.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 08:40 PM
You're holding someone's behavior to different standards based on if you like the other person or not.

Met, if this had been a man, pulling down his pants in a hotel room with an unsuspecting and NOT INTERESTED woman, would you find it to be "amusing" or "funny"? How bout if it were a child?

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 08:41 PM
If anyone would, it'd be him.
He deserves a medal. :rolleyes:

revolutionisnow
07-10-2009, 08:41 PM
I just watched the movie, it was more disgustingly shocking than funny. I don't know how they can even show this in regular theaters, much less put an R rating on it and not an NC-17.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:41 PM
It has nothing to do with whether or not I like the guy. RP is fighting to save this country and what is stands for while Obama, the neocons, et al. publicly work for private offshore banks trying to destroy the few freedoms we have left.

I agree with that. You're just supporting my point that people are getting their panties in a twist because it happened to "their boy." Where was the RPF outcry after Borat? He got enough media coverage even if you didn't see the movie?

Cohen gags on almost everyone, get over it.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:43 PM
Met, if this had been a man, pulling down his pants in a hotel room with an unsuspecting and NOT INTERESTED woman, would you find it to be "amusing" or "funny"? How bout if it were a child?

Not for children, but that's not an apple to apples comparison. As for women, fine - let's just ban candid camera shows and sue everything that ever offends us.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 08:43 PM
Cohen gags on almost everyone, get over it.

No, YOU should get over that people here at the RP forum have a problem with it. :rolleyes:

I'm sure you would have thanked him kindly and bent over and given him a bow before you left, had you been in the same position. :cool:

Light
07-10-2009, 08:44 PM
I just watched the movie, it was more disgustingly shocking than funny. I don't know how they can even show this in regular theaters, much less put an R rating on it and not an NC-17.

Use the power of the free market. Bad mouth this movie every chance you get. I have already told five friends not to go see it when they originally planned too, and they told some friends of theirs as well not to see it. Our influence may be small as individuals, however, it only takes an individual to get a ball rolling.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:45 PM
No, YOU should get over that people here at the RP forum have a problem with it. :rolleyes:

I'm sure you would have thanked him kindly and bent over and given him a bow before you left, had you been in the same position. :cool:

I'm over it now, I just expected more. I knew some people would find it distasteful, but the outrage is a little transparent. The calls for lawsuits did surprise me, though.

Oh, nice burn by the way! lulz

Andrew-Austin
07-10-2009, 08:46 PM
Its kind of like those Jackass films. Stupid stupid humor. When their hurting themselves, its funny. When their acting like jackasses to other people and doing any disturbing activity that does not involve hurting themselves, its retarded/awkward/unfunny.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 08:48 PM
I'm over it now, I just expected more. I knew some people would find it distasteful, but the outrage is a little transparent. The calls for lawsuits did surprise me, though.

Oh, nice burn by the way! lulz

Who says anyone is "outraged"?
I don't think Ron Paul should sue, not by a long shot, but a restraining order would be understandible. LOL.

Yeah, that jab was pretty sly, but fact of the matter is, you don't know what the hell you would do, and RP handled it VERY well. Too too bad whoever set him up for that interview, in a hotel room, didn't do a bit more homework...

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 08:50 PM
Its kind of like those Jackass films. Stupid stupid humor. When their hurting themselves, its funny. When their acting like jackasses to other people and doing any disturbing activity that does not involve hurting themselves, its retarded/awkward/unfunny.

Yeah, that scene was SUPER AKWARD. When it gets to that point, it just becomes painful.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:51 PM
Who says anyone is "outraged"?
I don't think Ron Paul should sue, not by a long shot, but a restraining order would be understandible. LOL.

Yeah, that jab was pretty sly, but fact of the matter is, you don't know what the hell you would do, and RP handled it VERY well. Too too bad whoever set him up for that interview, in a hotel room, didn't do a bit more homework...

I'm saying some people in this thread are.

I don't know what I would do, but I never said I had a problem with how Ron handled it. In the end, it's not that big of a deal. It's an immature prank, no more, no less.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 08:53 PM
Not for children, but that's not an apple to apples comparison. As for women, fine - let's just ban candid camera shows and sue everything that ever offends us.

No, I am not going to go there, I am talking more about the reaction by RP. What the hell was he supposed to do?
I am on your wave, I just think if RP took out a restraining order it would be super funny. :D

James Madison
07-10-2009, 08:54 PM
I agree with that. You're just supporting my point that people are getting their panties in a twist because it happened to "their boy." Where was the RPF outcry after Borat? He got enough media coverage even if you didn't see the movie?

Cohen gags on almost everyone, get over it.

I saw Borat; didn't like it. Considering it came out in 2006, that was long before I learned about Ron Paul so I can't speak for the rest of the forum (if it even existed then).

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:54 PM
No, I am not going to go there, I am talking more about the reaction by RP. What the hell was he supposed to do?
I am on your wave, I just think if RP took out a restraining order it would be super funny. :D

Again, I have no problem with RP's reaction.

0zzy
07-10-2009, 08:55 PM
I'm saying some people in this thread are.

I don't know what I would do, but I never said I had a problem with how Ron handled it. In the end, it's not that big of a deal. It's an immature prank, no more, no less.

I'm on Paul's penis because I called Cohen an a-hole for doing this and said it wasn't funny? And my rape comment isn't an epic fail, it happened on Punk'd where they had a guy on a plane and pretended it was going to crash, but he sued and the episode never aired.

I'm more mad at the dumbass reviewers upholding Cohen as the seeker of homophobes and saying Paul was in the wrong for calling Cohen a "*****." I don't think he should sue Cohen, but I don't think I should be saying I'm suckin Paul's P. cause I didn't appreciate this sketch as much as you did.

LibertyEagle
07-10-2009, 08:55 PM
Who says anyone is "outraged"?
I don't think Ron Paul should sue, not by a long shot, but a restraining order would be understandible. LOL.

Yeah, that jab was pretty sly, but fact of the matter is, you don't know what the hell you would do, and RP handled it VERY well. Too too bad whoever set him up for that interview, in a hotel room, didn't do a bit more homework...

Apparently, it was in a studio and the backroom was made up to look like a bedroom. At least that's what Dr. Paul said, here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=199334

revolutionisnow
07-10-2009, 08:57 PM
Its kind of like those Jackass films. Stupid stupid humor. When their hurting themselves, its funny. When their acting like jackasses to other people and doing any disturbing activity that does not involve hurting themselves, its retarded/awkward/unfunny.

The movie is nothing like the Jackass films. Those films are those people hurting and destroying themselves. This film is about setting up unsuspecting others and preying on them. What made the film offensive was not that though, it was the fighting with dildos,dildos attached to machines,live swinger sex scenes, meatspin scenes, simulated graphic oral sex with ghosts scenes, and the list goes on and on. And don't think the people selected as targets were just randomly chosen either, this is a movie with a lot of covert propaganda disguised as funny jokes.

Met Income
07-10-2009, 08:57 PM
I'm on Paul's penis because I called Cohen an a-hole for doing this and said it wasn't funny? And my rape comment isn't an epic fail, it happened on Punk'd where they had a guy on a plane and pretended it was going to crash, but he sued and the episode never aired.

I'm more mad at the dumbass reviewers upholding Cohen as the seeker of homophobes and saying Paul was in the wrong for calling Cohen a "*****." I don't think he should sue Cohen, but I don't think I should be saying I'm suckin Paul's P. cause I didn't appreciate this sketch as much as you did.

But I'm on Cohen's penis? Sure.

LibertyEagle
07-10-2009, 08:59 PM
Cohen gags on almost everyone, get over it.

So, you're saying that because he does it to a lot of people, it somehow makes it ok? Please elaborate on that concept.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 09:00 PM
Again, I have no problem with RP's reaction.

Again, I have no problem with other peoples' reaction- ie.. "Sue em!" ;)

How could people possibly even think "sue" when they realize that EXTREMEMLY valuable time had been completely wasted for a man wearing a wig and a fake dick hell (not) bent on humping Dr. Paul, to make ungodly amounts of money for HWOOD.

Perhaps RP should sue them for rights and part of the profit of the film since he has a "staring roll", and is even recieving "reviews" from that asshat Roger Ebert?

Met Income
07-10-2009, 09:10 PM
So, you're saying that because he does it to a lot of people, it somehow makes it ok? Please elaborate on that concept.

No, I just think this thread's reaction is overly dramatic because it was to "our boy." If this exact thing happened to Obama, the reaction would be different. Jus sayin.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 09:10 PM
The movie is nothing like the Jackass films. Those films are those people hurting and destroying themselves. This film is about setting up unsuspecting others and preying on them. What made the film offensive was not that though, it was the fighting with dildos,dildos attached to machines,live swinger sex scenes, meatspin scenes, simulated graphic oral sex with ghosts scenes, and the list goes on and on. And don't think the people selected as targets were just randomly chosen either, this is a movie with a lot of covert propaganda disguised as funny jokes.

He'd be real funny to me if I weren't awake to the propaganda. Sigh. :D

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 09:13 PM
No, I just think this thread's reaction is overly dramatic because it was to "our boy." If this exact thing happened to Obama, the reaction would be different. Jus sayin.

I don't agree at all. I have seen pretty much everyone ripped to shreds here- including Dr. Paul, and gawd knows his staff!!! Try this kinda stuff over at red state, Dalily Ciada, Huff Po, wonkkette, etc etc, then come back. Nice try, no cigar. (no offense, nothing personal)


pssssssssssssssssst.....

Thanks for posting this Ozzy!

revolutionisnow
07-10-2009, 09:14 PM
Won't be surprised if it's because RP does not support aid to Israel and other countries or foreign military interventions on their behalf.

Cohen should have had no problem getting an interview with Lindsay Graham, McCain or Lieberman. Could he be a stealth media plant of anti American lobbies with agenda to increase homosexuality awareness and ridicule political opponents at the same time?

There were also multiple Hitler jokes, called Mel Gibson the Fuhrer, talk of staging babies in holocaust reenactment photos, a visit to meet some Muslim "terrorists" and he asks them to kidnap him and also refers to OBL as their King.

Texan4Life
07-10-2009, 09:15 PM
"What in THUNDER is going on here!?!"

lol.

Bergie Bergeron
07-10-2009, 09:16 PM
Funniest movie of the year.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 09:19 PM
Apparently, it was in a studio and the backroom was made up to look like a bedroom. At least that's what Dr. Paul said, here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=199334
Thanks LE! I hadn't heard that.

That makes more sense. I don't doubt the "dishonesty" (as RP said) of the Cohen cartel.
Yeah, I can't believe he didn't hit him.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 09:20 PM
Funniest movie of the year.
If this is true we are truly Fu*d. :D

BenIsForRon
07-10-2009, 09:27 PM
Funniest movie of the year.

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm thinking second funniest. I saw the Hangover a few weeks ago, that was incredible. Very hard to top it.

Umbro2914
07-10-2009, 09:42 PM
Funniest movie of the year.

I disagree. I found it quite boring at times. Im a Borat fan so i had high expectations, but this was ridiclious. He tries to get laughs by having penis's flapping around and homosex. Sure, it had a lot of funny parts, and i laughed a lot. But i was expecting something better, idk.

Btw the Paul scene really didnt portray Paul in a bad way. It's basic human reaction to get out of a situation one is uncomfortable in. Now what happened to Paula Abdul.. now thats bad.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 09:48 PM
I disagree. I found it quite boring at times. Im a Borat fan so i had high expectations, but this was ridiclious. He tries to get laughs by having penis's flapping around and homosex. Sure, it had a lot of funny parts, and i laughed a lot. But i was expecting something better, idk.

Btw the Paul scene really didnt portray Paul in a bad way. It's basic human reaction to get out of a situation one is uncomfortable in. Now what happened to Paula Abdul.. now thats bad.

What happened to Paula Abdul? :eek:
we need a clip. :D

revolutionisnow
07-10-2009, 09:51 PM
Paula Abdul showed up for an interview but they had no furniture, so they had to call the Mexican lawn workers in to use them as chairs, and then they had another Mexican that was naked that they used as a table to serve what I think was sushi.

revolutionary8
07-10-2009, 09:56 PM
Paula Abdul showed up for an interview but they had no furniture, so they had to call the Mexican lawn workers in to use them as chairs, and then they had another Mexican that was naked that they used as a table to serve what I think was sushi.


Very strange. All I can say after that visual is--- at least the guy pretending to be the chair wasn't naked?

That is messed up.

AggieforPaul
07-11-2009, 12:50 AM
I liked Borat, but I thought Bruno was kind of dumb. I didn't see much in the way of social commentary this go-round, just a bunch of pensies.

tangent4ronpaul
07-11-2009, 01:49 AM
In the end we must all learn how to laugh at ourselves but I find this kind of hard to even snicker at. I enjoyed Borat, and im pretty sure ill enjoy Bruno as well but I am most definitely unhappy at this. Of all the crooked and ass-hatted politicians out there, Cohen had to pick the most humblest and friendliest one. Maybe Barney Frank would have made a better choice.

Barney Frank would have probably gotten on his knees and sucked his dick.

There are supposed to be a couple of ****'s in Congress - I thought Frank was one of um.

Hmmm... maybe that wouldn't be such a bad idea... a Male Lewinsky...

Speaking of which, where is Lewinsky when we need her? Anyone wanna do a chip in to bring her out of retirement? :)

-t

0zzy
07-11-2009, 02:12 AM
Barney Frank would have probably gotten on his knees and sucked his dick.

There are supposed to be a couple of ****'s in Congress - I thought Frank was one of um.

Hmmm... maybe that wouldn't be such a bad idea... a Male Lewinsky...

Speaking of which, where is Lewinsky when we need her? Anyone wanna do a chip in to bring her out of retirement? :)

-t

Something wrong with ***** in congress?

And yes, Frank is one.
And he already has his Lewinsky... think he had sex with an intern? Or some staffer... or maybe it was just a prostitute.

PreDeadMan
07-11-2009, 02:40 AM
wow... this borat prick is not even funny it is EXTREMELY sad the effortless amount of work put into comedies these days for the most part.I believe some other poster said sure do it to a politician who deserves it, but not ron paul. Come on this is bullcrap. I don't blame Ron Paul for walking out and saying what he said give me a break this guy works so damn hard to try and get liberty for America and restore the republic and we have asshats like that bruno idiot acting like a jackass. I wouldn't have blamed the good doctor for dislocating his jaw......

BenIsForRon
07-11-2009, 03:39 AM
Cohen puts a ton of work into his comedies. He actually has a huge body of work. He started with the Ali G character in 1998, and Borat and Bruno followed a few years later.

0zzy
07-11-2009, 04:39 AM
Cohen puts a ton of work into his comedies. He actually has a huge body of work. He started with the Ali G character in 1998, and Borat and Bruno followed a few years later.

Huge body of work? I guess :X. Seems like the same three bodies of work. Borat, Ali G, and Bruno.

syborius
07-11-2009, 04:40 AM
the reason Cohen chose RP was because of a deep seated hatred towards the man, his ideals, like ending the fed, and pulling the rug out from under Israel... if you end the fed you end a lot of illegitimate funding, including the wars. Do you think his targeting was done by accident, this was calculated, political, and another smear attack. Nothing more, let's not forget Cohen's roots here. No, this was NOT comedy!

0zzy
07-11-2009, 04:43 AM
the reason Cohen chose RP was because of a deep seated hatred towards the man, his ideals, like ending the fed, and pulling the rug out from under Israel... if you end the fed you end a lot of illegitimate funding, including the wars. Do you think his targeting was done by accident, this was calculated, political, and another smear attack. Nothing more, let's not forget Cohen's roots here. No, this was NOT comedy!

Or, he just knew the Paulites of the world would get so mad and knew we would be talking about his film, kinda like we are now.

Umbro2914
07-11-2009, 05:17 AM
I liked Borat, but I thought Bruno was kind of dumb. I didn't see much in the way of social commentary this go-round, just a bunch of pensies.

very good observation.

amonasro
07-11-2009, 06:20 AM
I thought it was mildly humorous. Cohen is a funny guy and capable of being funny in improv situations, but it sounds like he's running out of ideas. I can already tell that Borat is much more likeable than this oversexed pseudo-flamer.

I don't see any reason why this will hurt Dr. Paul. If anything, it will make him more recognizable. Maybe young people will be interested to see what is non-conventional about his message.

christagious
07-11-2009, 07:14 AM
In the end we must all learn how to laugh at ourselves but I find this kind of hard to even snicker at. I enjoyed Borat, and im pretty sure ill enjoy Bruno as well but I am most definitely unhappy at this. Of all the crooked and ass-hatted politicians out there, Cohen had to pick the most humblest and friendliest one. Maybe Barney Frank would have made a better choice.

I find it pretty funny, but then again Cohen's sense of humor is the same as mine: messing with people. For me, the funniest shows and movies are the ones that involve messing with people: Tom Green, Ali G, Bruno, Borat, etc....

I think he chose Ron Paul because he knows how Ron's supporters are, just look at the replies to this thread, people are absolutely flipping out, but if he had chosen McCain or somebody else everybody would be on the opposite end and would think it's the funniest thing they've ever seen. He chose a politician whose supporters will create a ruckus and possibly generate more publicity for him by "boycotting" or "protesting" the film. Plus, he's always targeted the easiest politicians to get on his shows or movies, the ones who aren't going to know it's a possible joke, he's targeted Pat Buchanan, Bob Barr, Newt Gingrich, politicians from other countries such as from Ireland, the list goes on.

Everybody needs to stop being so bent over this scene.

christagious
07-11-2009, 07:21 AM
the reason Cohen chose RP was because of a deep seated hatred towards the man, his ideals, like ending the fed, and pulling the rug out from under Israel... if you end the fed you end a lot of illegitimate funding, including the wars. Do you think his targeting was done by accident, this was calculated, political, and another smear attack. Nothing more, let's not forget Cohen's roots here. No, this was NOT comedy!

Oh come on!! Does everything have to be a fucking conspiracy?


Or, he just knew the Paulites of the world would get so mad and knew we would be talking about his film, kinda like we are now.

Exactly! Does everybody have to be so serious all the time. Lighten up

itshappening
07-11-2009, 07:31 AM
the reason Cohen chose RP was because of a deep seated hatred towards the man, his ideals, like ending the fed, and pulling the rug out from under Israel... if you end the fed you end a lot of illegitimate funding, including the wars. Do you think his targeting was done by accident, this was calculated, political, and another smear attack. Nothing more, let's not forget Cohen's roots here. No, this was NOT comedy!

I think you're right about the targetting, it's no coincidence is it? he wanted to send up the only decent man in congress!! crazy..

nice to see most audiences and critics seeing how distasteful it was....

revolutionisnow
07-11-2009, 07:41 AM
Yeah, I'm sure its all random, and in the next movie he will chose Netanyahu or Pelosi :rolleyes:

I'm also sure the multiple Hitler references, holocaust jokes,and calling Mel Gibson The Fuhrer were all random also.

I also look forward to his next movie, instead of following the adventures of Borat- the stereotypical Arab, it will be about an over the top stereotypical Jewish man.

Philmanoman
07-11-2009, 07:48 AM
Its funny...funny that some of the comments..."i would of laughed it off...oh cmon guys you need to lighten up".

Sorry but thats bullshit...

YOU GUYS KNOW WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS SCENE...
RON PAUL DID NOT...
HES 70+ YEARS AND IN CONGRESS...
I SUPPOSE YOU WOULD LAUGH IF IT WAS YOUR GRANDMOTHER...
I GUARANTEE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TALKING ALL HARD IN THIS THREAD WOULD FOLD LIKE A DOLLAR BILL IF THIS WAS DONE TO THEM...

Like I said...I think everyone here is forgetting...You know whats going to happen...it must be quite easy to fault Ron or other people for not being easy going enough from the perspective of your chair in front of the computer.


Kinda like the whole depantsing thing that went on when I was in school...people thought it was funny if youd run up behind someone and pull their pants down...happened to alot of other people but never happened to me...Why?Because people knew Id beat the hell out of them.Seemed pretty gay to me and not funny.

Anti Federalist
07-11-2009, 08:23 AM
Something wrong with ***** in congress?

And yes, Frank is one.
And he already has his Lewinsky... think he had sex with an intern? Or some staffer... or maybe it was just a prostitute.

It was a male prostitute named Steve Gobie.

Frank paid him for sex and then moved him into his DC apartment, where Gobie set up a prostitution ring.

Frank also used "congressional privilege" to "fix" a bunch of parking tickets for him and tried to use that same pressure to "fix" past drug charges.

This was back in 1989.

Just another day in Wome.

Dark_Horse_Rider
07-11-2009, 11:28 AM
It has nothing to do with whether or not I like the guy. RP is fighting to save this country and what is stands for while Obama, the neocons, et al. publicly work for private offshore banks trying to destroy the few freedoms we have left.

Some people don't recognize the severity of the situation we are in.

ctiger2
07-11-2009, 12:10 PM
Most people don't recognize the severity of the situation we are in.

Fixed

Liberty Star
07-11-2009, 12:17 PM
Frank also used "congressional privilege" to "fix" a bunch of parking tickets for him and tried to use that same pressure to "fix" past drug charges.

This was back in 1989.



Same Frank who has in 2009 moved upto no.1 on Out Mag's Power list:

http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/7218900

anaconda
07-11-2009, 12:23 PM
Artistically, there is no irony in this scene..

It seems to me that if Sasha had done his movie right, he would have taken the time and energy, and had the ambition, to set up some closet case, anti-gay politician. Like so many of the Republicans with anti-gay platforms who ultimately have been outed as gay themselves. In other words, why not pick on a hypocrite politician, rather than Ron Paul, who has said that all humans have the same rights regardless of their sexual orientation?

I wish Ron Paul would use this as a platform to repeat his position.

By the way, it would have been equally inappropriate if he was playing a straight guy (Ali G., for example) and he was hitting on, say, Barbara Lee or Dianne Feinstein in that bedroom. Straight or gay, it's just someone dealing with an inappropriate sexual advance.

RP should take the approach that this scene demeans gay people and stereotypes them

My girlfriend said that the irony in the scene, and the reason that Ron Paul was the target, was that Bruno thought he was going to be interviewing Rue Paul. I dunno.

Liberty Star
07-11-2009, 12:31 PM
Some troubling questions remain unanswered.

Why didn't he setup any of the many Dem/GOP neocon , war monger politicians or any of the pimps for Israel lobby in Congress? Why did he setup one of the very few critics of US mideast policy?

There is no reported evidence that Bruno Cohen, Ron Mayers of Universal Studio et al are executing Israeli lobby's agenda by distracting US masses with homosexuality issue debates when US is facing serious economy/mideast wars issues but these questions need to be answer by Universal and Bruno Cohen's handlers. Bruno need to come clean what "youth leadership" training did he receive in Israel.

Badger Paul
07-11-2009, 01:10 PM
Everyone, I doubt if by the end of the year we will still be talking about this whole brouhaha.

Judging by the reviews (and not I will not give Cohen a dime of my money), Bruno is not Borat. Not by a long shot. Borat may have been obnoxious but there was an earnestness about him that made him endearing and funny at the same time while pointing a mirror at ourselves.

Bruno is just a sexual predator, period. If he did same thing to Dr. Paul as a female politician he'd be in jail. How can he point a mirror at societies' "homophobia" when he stereotypes every outlandish homosexual behavior possible? Naked guys just don't crawl into people's tent when they're camping. Not even in Europe.

I wouldn't worry about any fallout to Dr. Paul. None of the reviewers or anyone else in the media is calling him a "homophobe" because they know he is not one to begin with and they also know he was put into a very disturbing situation. I don't know how many reviews I've read where the reviewer said they had to watch the film with their hands over their eyes. That's not good for repeat business. Some may go to watch to see what the fuss is about but can you imagine anyone going back? I didn't think so either.

This film will be in and out of the theaters by August and quickly forgotten about and perhaps Cohen can think up some original material for once.

Oh by the way, why was Dr. Paul chose for Bruno's little sex tape? Well according to the Economist blog (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2009/03/sacha_baron_cohen_doesnt_care.cfm)it may something to do with the fact when Borat interviewed Bob Barr back in 2006, Jesse Benton helped to set up the interview. Maybe they know a target when they see one.

Liberty Star
07-11-2009, 01:16 PM
Oh by the way, why was Dr. Paul chose for Bruno's little sex tape? Well according to the Economist blog (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2009/03/sacha_baron_cohen_doesnt_care.cfm)it may something to do with the fact when Borat interviewed Bob Barr back in 2006, Jesse Benton helped to set up the interview. Maybe they know a target when they see one.




http://www.alipac.us/article-4073-thread-1-0.html

From that link:


March 26, 2009

ALIPAC is issuing a national advisory to all local, state, and Federal law enforcement agencies and officers, along with all DHS Fusion Centers, a warning against any reliance upon faulty and politicized research issued by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and Anti Defamation League (ADL).

Police were instructed to look for Americans who were concerned about unemployment, taxes, illegal immigration, gangs, border security, abortion, high costs of living, gun restrictions, FEMA, the IRS, The Federal Reserve, and the North American Union/SPP/North American Community. The 'Missouri Documents' also said potential domestic terrorists might like gun shows, short wave radios, combat movies, movies with white male heroes, Tom Clancey Novels, and Presidential Candidates Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and Chuck Baldwin!

So ADL was involved in defining these "characteristics"?

That is interesting connection. This was posted yesterday in another discussion about Barr and RP supporters. Is ADL writing scripts for Bruno Cohen/Universal studio movies?
If this is the trend, we should expect to see Chuck Baldwin setup in next Bruno movie.

Sorry Pelosi, McCain, Lieberman, your names are not on the list.



If he did same thing to Dr. Paul as a female politician he'd be in jail.

There are law suits against him or Universal currently if I'm not mistaken, he could still end up in prison or paying back lot of money. He had allegedly caused serious injury to a frail woman and sent her to wheel chair for life from what I had heard.

Liberty Star
07-11-2009, 01:33 PM
Here is one report on that lawsuit:


Sacha Baron Cohen Sued Over Bingo Melee

Jun 3rd 2009

It's all fun and games until someone gets confined to a wheelchair -- which is exactly what one woman is claiming after she was allegedly attacked and left "crippled" by Sacha Baron Cohen (as Bruno) at a Bingo hall in 2007.

Richelle Olson has sued Cohen, NBC Universal and others claiming they told her Bruno was a celeb and would appear and call numbers at the charity bingo game she ran for the elderly in Palmdale, CA. Olson was none too happy when she saw Bruno, whom she describes as an "extreme, outrageous, offensive caricature of a gay man dressed in sexually revealing clothing with an Austrian accent..."

Olson alleges Bruno used "vulgar and offensive language" and when she tried taking the mic from him, a "physical struggle ensued" and Cohen "offensively touched, pushed and battered" her, causing her to fall to the ground.

She then claims three cameramen and others rushed the stage ... "where defendants attacked [her] for a period of one to five minutes to intentionally create a dramatic emotional response ... while [they] recorded her humiliation and embarrassment."

After the alleged assault was over, the suit says Olson went into another room where she was "sobbing uncontrollably" ... then was rendered unconscious ... "falling forward onto the thinly covered concrete slab, passing out and causing her to hit her head."

The suit says Olson was rushed to the hospital with a "diagnosis of two brain bleeds" -- and that she has been confined to a wheelchair and walker ever since.


http://wcbstv.com/entertainment/sasha.baron.cohen.2.1031334.html

Badger Paul
07-11-2009, 01:46 PM
Just in reading other sites, I found out that it was the Congressional office that reportedly set-up the interview. If this is true my apologies to Jesse. Either way it doesn't matter because Team Cohen reportedly set up 31 dummy media companies to fool or trick people to be a part of the movie. That's the lengths they're prepared to go for their comedy.

BenIsForRon
07-11-2009, 09:56 PM
ITS THE JEWS!!!! OMG THE JEWS DID IT!!!!

Guys, he also pulled a stunt on a Mossad agent in this movie. Stop making ignorant claims.

0zzy
07-11-2009, 10:14 PM
I wouldn't worry about any fallout to Dr. Paul. None of the reviewers or anyone else in the media is calling him a "homophobe" because they know he is not one to begin with and they also know he was put into a very disturbing situation. I don't know how many reviews I've read where the reviewer said they had to watch the film with their hands over their eyes. That's not good for repeat business. Some may go to watch to see what the fuss is about but can you imagine anyone going back? I didn't think so either.

They have been calling him a homophobe. At least a few reviews have. Roger Ebert dedicated a whole paragraph to Paul. One said Paul said they felt sorry for him, but that Paul didn't have to go so far as calling him a "*****." It's more disgusting than what Cohen did.

James Madison
07-11-2009, 10:39 PM
Here is one report on that lawsuit:



http://wcbstv.com/entertainment/sasha.baron.cohen.2.1031334.html

I wouldn't be so sure this will go through; every lawsuit from the movie Borat was thrown out. You also forget that SBC is a celebrity and possesses a separate set of legal standards than regular citizens.

0zzy
07-11-2009, 10:48 PM
I wouldn't be so sure this will go through; every lawsuit from the movie Borat was thrown out. You also forget that SBC is a celebrity and possesses a separate set of legal standards than regular citizens.

Or they just know how to make people sign contracts because they know people will sign them without reading them.

James Madison
07-11-2009, 11:36 PM
Or they just know how to make people sign contracts because they know people will sign them without reading them.

Most of them didn't sign contracts.

BenIsForRon
07-11-2009, 11:57 PM
Most of them didn't sign contracts.

Where did you hear this? They can't use you in the movie unless you sign a release form.

akihabro
07-12-2009, 12:44 AM
Haha. I don't think RP is going to do anymore movies or interview with foreign people. Didn't he learn from Borat?

0zzy
07-12-2009, 12:57 AM
Haha. I don't think RP is going to do anymore movies or interview with foreign people. Didn't he learn from Borat?

W....wha? Learn what from Borat, all foreigners requesting an interview is actually Sasha Baren Cohen trying to punk you?

dantheman
07-12-2009, 03:00 PM
I don't know...this is just really funny. The fact that Ron Paul is that uncomfortable is hilarious. Most of us aren't used to seeing our hero so vulnerable. But oh well. I doubt this will do anything to his credibility. Remember, kids, Michael Jackson's dead. Nothing else matters right now...

constitutional
07-12-2009, 03:15 PM
It just annoys me that now when I talk to the average joe about Ron Paul they're gonna say, "Oh, you mean that homophobe from Bruno?"

No one's going to say that? You wanted RP to make out with Bruno or what?

Your posts are often *****.

0zzy
07-12-2009, 03:23 PM
I don't know...this is just really funny. The fact that Ron Paul is that uncomfortable is hilarious. Most of us aren't used to seeing our hero so vulnerable. But oh well. I doubt this will do anything to his credibility. Remember, kids, Michael Jackson's dead. Nothing else matters right now...

I've seen way more vulnerability when he was in the debates and ask him stupid ask questions or worse, ignore him. I can give Cohen a pass for being an entertainer/prankster, the media is much worse. They pretend to bring unbiased news and debates etc etc. etc., but we all know that's no the case.

haaaylee
07-12-2009, 04:38 PM
It just annoys me that now when I talk to the average joe about Ron Paul they're gonna say, "Oh, you mean that homophobe from Bruno?"

They've always said that... minus the Bruno part.

foofighter20x
07-12-2009, 06:52 PM
lololol, Ron Paul looked absolutely terrified.

You probably would have too. :rolleyes:

foofighter20x
07-12-2009, 07:04 PM
Or better yet have a staff person with you at all times when you do an interview. A big, mean, doesn't mind hurting someone staff person.

For the record I've seen the scene where this scum does a stunt where he puts his butt in Eminem's face. Eminem looks just as angry and uncomfortable. And I think he was told that a stunt was going to happen but was lied to about the details.

You know, I suggested this to one of Dr. Paul's staffers, and they got all angry like I was telling them how to do their job. :rolleyes:

Kludge
07-12-2009, 07:10 PM
You probably would have too. :rolleyes:

Maybe, were I a God-fearing man.

dr. hfn
07-12-2009, 07:10 PM
why couldn't we get on tv like this during the election?!

constitutional
07-12-2009, 07:13 PM
One reason RP might have been picked is because of his popularity and his persistent supporters. They probably wanted to create outrage among Ron Paul supporters (we are loud and persistent after all) to get more exposure. That scene with Ron Paul was weak, yet they decided to include it. They were desperately hoping for outrage.

I believe ***** was a right word of choice. If an old woman tried to haggle me like that in a room, I'd poke both my eyes out and run out saying "she tried to hit on me, what a slut! Oh god, the horror! the horror! Have mercy. Be gone whore! be gone!". Well not really, but I would definitely call her a slut as someone would call a gay man *****.

BenIsForRon
07-12-2009, 07:33 PM
One reason RP might have been picked is because of his popularity and his persistent supporters. They probably wanted to create outrage among Ron Paul supporters (we are loud and persistent after all) to get more exposure. That scene with Ron Paul was weak, yet they decided to include it. They were desperately hoping for outrage.

This is the only conspiracy theory I see as plausible. They've seen how we reacted to debates and media coverage during the campaign.

tmosley
07-12-2009, 07:42 PM
I had expected him to pretend to have him confused with Ru Paul http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ru_Paul

I can't believe they passed up that opportunity. It would have been much funnier, and wouldn't have been as close to sexual assault. Instead, it was nothing but an awkward two minutes that seemed to stretch out forever.

revolutionary8
07-12-2009, 07:48 PM
why couldn't we get on tv like this during the election?!

ROFL! Post of the day!

itshappening
07-12-2009, 07:56 PM
the debate on why he was singled out is interesting... I believe it was a ploy to 'send him up' and basically ridicule him.

Also notice they refered to him as 'presidential candidate', so he was probably the only one with a high enough profile they could actually get... the alternative is someone like Hunter

Liberty Star
07-12-2009, 08:05 PM
Which dumb TV talking head decided that any offensive language was used?

Did anyone ask Bruno Cohen if he found any term offensive? Since he has had some training in Israel or is partially Israeli, could he have seen it as a compliment considering the popularity of the discussed term among homsexual community in holy land that it seem to wear it as badge of honor?

http://www.jewishmosaic.org/page/picture/17
http://www.*****uption.org/q2006/images/scketch_small.jpg

http://www.*****uption.org/q2006/images/flayer.JPG


http://www.jewishmosaic.org/torah/show_torah
http://www.*****uption.org/q2006/nologo.html

revolutionary8
07-12-2009, 08:07 PM
the debate on why he was singled out is interesting... I believe it was a ploy to 'send him up' and basically ridicule him.

Also notice they refered to him as 'presidential candidate', so he was probably the only one with a high enough profile they could actually get... the alternative is someone like Hunter

Yep, it would have been A LOT funnier had he pulled this stunt with Bernie Sanders. It was absolutely no "coincidence", and it sure as hell wasn't "random", contrary to what Bennis keeps claiming (from what I have gathered so far, pls. correct me if I am wrong Bennis)

brandon
07-12-2009, 08:10 PM
Just saw the movie tonight.

The theater was packed. People were laughing throughout most of the movie, but no one laughed at the Ron Paul scene. It was just too awkward, and not funny at all.

Overall I thought most of the movie was really funny. Some parts took it too far though and just made me uncomfortable.

christagious
07-12-2009, 08:56 PM
One reason RP might have been picked is because of his popularity and his persistent supporters. They probably wanted to create outrage among Ron Paul supporters (we are loud and persistent after all) to get more exposure. That scene with Ron Paul was weak, yet they decided to include it. They were desperately hoping for outrage.


My thoughts exactly, and they kinda got what they wanted, well, at least on these forums there is some outrage, kind of.

brandon
07-12-2009, 08:58 PM
One reason RP might have been picked is because of his popularity and his persistent supporters. They probably wanted to create outrage among Ron Paul supporters (we are loud and persistent after all) to get more exposure. That scene with Ron Paul was weak, yet they decided to include it. They were desperately hoping for outrage.


This sounds about right. It was the weakest scene in the whole movie by far

revolutionary8
07-12-2009, 09:03 PM
One reason RP might have been picked is because of his popularity and his persistent supporters. They probably wanted to create outrage among Ron Paul supporters (we are loud and persistent after all) to get more exposure. That scene with Ron Paul was weak, yet they decided to include it. They were desperately hoping for outrage.

I believe ***** was a right word of choice. If an old woman tried to haggle me like that in a room, I'd poke both my eyes out and run out saying "she tried to hit on me, what a slut! Oh god, the horror! the horror! Have mercy. Be gone whore! be gone!". Well not really, but I would definitely call her a slut as someone would call a gay man *****.


If so, why did he "randomly select" Bobb Barr for his last movie? Just a coincidence?

BenIsForRon
07-12-2009, 09:06 PM
Yep, it would have been A LOT funnier had he pulled this stunt with Bernie Sanders. It was absolutely no "coincidence", and it sure as hell wasn't "random", contrary to what Bennis keeps claiming (from what I have gathered so far, pls. correct me if I am wrong Bennis)

It's Ben is for Ron. (Mods: is there a way I can change my name so its not confusing?)

And I'm not saying it was random. Ron Paul was chosen because he could be confused with "Ru Paul" by Bruno, and probably because he was an easy target. His large web following may have something to do with it too. What I am saying is it was not a Zionist plot to discredit Dr. Paul, which is so ridiculous I shouldn't even acknowledge it.

Sacha Cohen is a good guy, he may have used bad taste in this instance, but overall, he really is a genius actor/satirist.

revolutionary8
07-12-2009, 09:14 PM
It's Ben is for Ron. (Mods: is there a way I can change my name so its not confusing?)

And I'm not saying it was random. Ron Paul was chosen because he could be confused with "Ru Paul" by Bruno, and probably because he was an easy target. His large web following may have something to do with it too. What I am saying is it was not a Zionist plot to discredit Dr. Paul, which is so ridiculous I shouldn't even acknowledge it.

Sacha Cohen is a good guy, he may have used bad taste in this instance, but overall, he really is a genius actor/satarist.

This bugs me.
Who the HELL said "it's a zionist plot to discredit him"??? SHOW ME THA MONEY!

As I see it, right now, you are making stuff up about RP supporters in order to "discredit" RP supporters.

BenIsForRon
07-12-2009, 09:18 PM
Look through this thread dude. Many people bring up his membership in a Zionist youth group, as if that had anything to do with his selection of Ron Paul for a scene in his movie 20 years later.

Danke
07-12-2009, 09:23 PM
Look through this thread dude. Many people bring up his membership in a Zionist youth group, as if that had anything to do with his selection of Ron Paul for a scene in his movie 20 years later.

Benis, Wut?


http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/obama_aipac.jpg


http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/img/Pelosi_Zionist_whore.JPG

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee261/FrankPilla/pelosi-emanuel-happy.jpg

BenIsForRon
07-12-2009, 09:32 PM
Danke, open your mind man. He was in a youth group primarily focused on building character and all that stuff. Just like most other youth groups, whether they be Christian, Muslim, or secular. Nothing to do with AIPAC and all that shit.

Not all Jews are out to enslave you or kill you. Chill out.

Danke
07-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Danke, open your mind man. He was in a youth group primarily focused on building character and all that stuff. Just like most other youth groups, whether they be Christian, Muslim, or secular. Nothing to do with AIPAC and all that shit.

Not all Jews are out to enslave you or kill you. Chill out.

NP with Jews, but Zionists.

Chill out.

2young2vote
07-12-2009, 09:40 PM
I thought it was funny. I had a big smile on throughout the whole scene :) .

TortoiseDream
07-12-2009, 09:52 PM
I actually think Ron's reaction was nothing like that of a homophobe. He stuck it out there for a good couple minutes in the room while being essentially hit on and put in an awkward situation. Although he was most definitely uncomfortable, yet he was polite and quite. It was not until Bruno started to undress that he reacted, and he probably would have reacted in a similar way if it were a woman. The only thing that this scene asserts is that an old man will be upset if someone, guy or gal, takes his or her pants off during a technical malfunction in an interview - nothing to do with gays.

The rest of the movie was average, sometimes funny, mostly just his balls in your face.

BenIsForRon
07-12-2009, 09:53 PM
NP with Jews, but Zionists.

Chill out.

I don't like the word Zionist either, but not every organization with the word Zionist attached to it has the same intentions as AIPAC. Cohen's group was basically the equivalent to a mission group working on a kibbutz in Israel. You can look up the group yourself. I think his kibbutz was on the border with Lebanon, and had a history of cultural exchange with the Lebanese people across the border.

I looked all this up the other day, out of curiosity and so I could back myself up and maybe snap some of the conspiracy nuts out of their stupor.

zade
07-12-2009, 09:57 PM
I thought it was funny, but I must admit I am a little disappointed in Ron here. Even if "*****" isn't deragatory, the fact that as he's kicking Bruno out, his reason is "that guy is *****" makes it seem like Ron doesn't want "*****s" in his office.


he probably would have reacted in a similar way if it were a woman. The only thing that this scene asserts is that an old man will be upset if someone, guy or gal, takes his or her pants off during a technical malfunction in an interview - nothing to do with gays.

You think he wouldve said "get that woman out of here, she's straight as blazes!" ?

revolutionisnow
07-12-2009, 10:04 PM
So why so many Hitler and holocaust references? What does that have to do with gay culture? Why call Mel Gibson "The Fuhrer"?

revolutionary8
07-12-2009, 10:17 PM
Look through this thread dude. Many people bring up his membership in a Zionist youth group, as if that had anything to do with his selection of Ron Paul for a scene in his movie 20 years later.
You actually want ME to look through this thread to prove a negative. LMAO.
You da funny. :p
AND you are a LIAR.
It's pretty obvious now... to me anyway..

BenIsForRon
07-12-2009, 10:21 PM
So why so many Hitler and holocaust references? What does that have to do with gay culture? Why call Mel Gibson "The Fuhrer"?

Because Bruno is Austrian, and Cohen likes doing humor related to Jews.

Nothing, not every joke in the movie has to be about Bruno's homosexulality or gay culture.

Because it's funny, and Mel Gibson has said some crazy stuff about Jews, including calling the cop who arrested him for drunk driving a Jew.


Do you really think this was some kind of political hit-job by the Zionists? If so, you might need to take a break from the conspiracy websites and get some fresh air.

revolutionary8
07-12-2009, 10:27 PM
Because Bruno is Austrian, and Cohen likes doing humor related to Jews.

Nothing, not every joke in the movie has to be about Bruno's homosexulality or gay culture.

Because it's funny, and Mel Gibson has said some crazy stuff about Jews, including calling the cop who arrested him for drunk driving a Jew.


Do you really think this was some kind of political hit-job by the Zionists? If so, you might need to take a break from the conspiracy websites and get some fresh air.
and you are accusing people in this thread of being " Gay Bashing Zionists"

Hello Pot, Meet Kettle. He/she's BLACK.

SHOW ME THA MONEY.

BenIsForRon
07-12-2009, 10:44 PM
Here's Andy Kindler doing a joke about Mel Gibson being anti-semetic. At about 5:00, funny stuff.

YouTube - Andy Kindler live in Vancouver. part 1 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSCrlYRBYek)

Dreamofunity
07-12-2009, 10:53 PM
Cohen's actually jewish, which is why Borat's "Throw the Jew down the well" is kind of funny.

YouTube - Borat - Throw the Jew Down the Well!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo)

revolutionisnow
07-12-2009, 10:54 PM
Because Bruno is Austrian, and Cohen likes doing humor related to Jews.

Nothing, not every joke in the movie has to be about Bruno's homosexulality or gay culture.

Because it's funny, and Mel Gibson has said some crazy stuff about Jews, including calling the cop who arrested him for drunk driving a Jew.


Do you really think this was some kind of political hit-job by the Zionists? If so, you might need to take a break from the conspiracy websites and get some fresh air.

Thanks for proving my point that the things he includes in his movie are related to and benefit Jewish interests.



Cohen's actually jewish, which is why Borat's "Throw the Jew down the well" is kind of funny.


Its an entire movie of an over the top stereotypical portrayal of Arabs. How well do you think the exact movie, but with a stereotypical Jew as the main character would go over?

revolutionary8
07-12-2009, 11:16 PM
Cohen's actually jewish, which is why Borat's "Throw the Jew down the well" is kind of funny.

YouTube - Borat - Throw the Jew Down the Well!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo)

wtf?

Kludge
07-12-2009, 11:20 PM
http://www.adl.org/media_watch/tv/20040809-hbo.htm

BenIsForRon
07-13-2009, 12:31 AM
^I don't think Cohen is going to change his comedy because dumb people don't get it.

EDIT: And Borat is eastern European, not arab.

BenIsForRon
07-13-2009, 12:35 AM
Thanks for proving my point that the things he includes in his movie are related to and benefit Jewish interests.

You are either messing with me or you are incredibly dumb. Cohen is a Jew. He likes making fun of anti-semetic people, which is more funny to him because he is, in fact, a Jew. Just like when black people make fun of the KKK.

Wow... I can't believe I just had to type that.

dantheman
07-13-2009, 07:28 AM
Y'all realize of course we're the ones outraged, right? No one on the media is talking about this. We're the only ones that have our panties in a wad over this. Cohen and his gang probably knew the response they would get out of us. But at the end of the day, Ron Paul got punk'd. WHO REALLY CARES??

speciallyblend
07-13-2009, 08:31 AM
personally i am proud to say i haven't clicked one link to a bruno story! pretty much nothing to do about nothing!

bruno isn't dealing with real issues so who the f cares!! unless bruno is paying my bills and dealing with crappy insurance companies. i would rather watch barney then bruno!

0zzy
07-13-2009, 03:08 PM
Y'all realize of course we're the ones outraged, right? No one on the media is talking about this. We're the only ones that have our panties in a wad over this. Cohen and his gang probably knew the response they would get out of us. But at the end of the day, Ron Paul got punk'd. WHO REALLY CARES??

Now here's the real bs. Many reviewers are coming out saying Paul is a homophobic because of this video. I care more about dumbass reviewers than a comedian punking people (though there should be an age limit to punk someone like he did-.-).

christagious
07-14-2009, 09:27 AM
EDIT: And Borat is eastern European, not arab.

Ah you beat me to it

he even said at the rodeo that he is Kazakh and follows the hawk!

christagious
07-14-2009, 09:28 AM
bruno isn't dealing with real issues so who the f cares!! unless bruno is paying my bills and dealing with crappy insurance companies. i would rather watch barney then bruno!

So Barney is your sugar daddy? :p

Natalie
07-14-2009, 09:33 AM
This Ali G clip is funny. He goes to an abortion rally. He's talking to the Priest, and then he's like "So you never got a ho preggers?" ROFL!!

YouTube - Ali G - Abortion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ERgTC-3wsY)

Natalie
07-14-2009, 09:40 AM
Here's another one. Ali G and Naomi Wolf.

YouTube - Ali G Show - Feminism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyLSstqMvH8&feature=quicklist)

RM918
07-14-2009, 10:14 AM
The only thing ticking me off about all this is that this is getting vastly more coverage than 1207. Expatriating is looking better every day.

BenIsForRon
07-14-2009, 12:58 PM
The only thing ticking me off about all this is that this is getting vastly more coverage than 1207. Expatriating is looking better every day.

Huh?! Neither is getting a lot of coverage, but in the media 1207 is actually being covered from time to time.

You must be talking about the forums. Personally, I'm very aware of where 1207 is, and its going to take a while to get to the next step in the senate, so I can talk about something else for a second.