Lew Rockwell money bomb [Archive] - Ron Paul Forums / Liberty Forest

awake

07-09-2009, 03:52 PM

Guys, a few dollars go along way, his site has played a key role in the growth of this movement and will continue to do so with your help.

Please vote with your dollars and keep a good thing growing.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/donate/

itshappening

07-09-2009, 07:54 PM

Support Lew!

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Kludge

07-09-2009, 07:58 PM

Does Lew actually grow the movement? He seems more of a person radicals turn to after they've already converted. I don't think I've ever seen a Lew article outside of a libertarian forum.

awake

07-09-2009, 08:51 PM

Ron Paul reads Lew Rockwell everyday... that should be enough to define it as a site worth supporting.

FSP-Rebel

07-09-2009, 08:54 PM

Ron Paul reads Lew Rockwell everyday... that should be enough to define it as a site worth supporting.
Exactamungo. Let me also note that LRC is the best read libertarian website in the world. Plus, the Judge thinks highly of him.

yongrel

07-09-2009, 08:58 PM

Does Lew actually grow the movement? He seems more of a person radicals turn to after they've already converted. I don't think I've ever seen a Lew article outside of a libertarian forum.

Rockwell drives a lot more folks away from the movement than he brings in. I've never met someone he converted, but I've met plenty that were scared off by his antics.

Andrew-Austin

07-09-2009, 09:09 PM

Lew grows the movement by educating the movement.

FSP-Rebel

07-09-2009, 09:18 PM

Rockwell drives a lot more folks away from the movement than he brings in. I've never met someone he converted, but I've met plenty that were scared off by his antics.
Likely, they were the brainless part of the movement. Plus, Lew hardly does anything that qualifies as antics, sorry.

awake

07-09-2009, 09:19 PM

I am sensing a slight personality conflict in the air...

In any regard; ours is a situation where the supply of men who can state clearly the case for freedom are scarce indeed. When the whole of society is leaning toward trading liberty in for the illusion of government security, it is in these times, that we need every hand and able minded individual to turn the tide. The war of ideas must be won through reasoned and rational debate. Like him or not, he is one of those few that can form the case for true liberalism in the classical sense.

Brassmouth

07-09-2009, 10:35 PM

Lew grows the movement by educating the movement.

Precisely. Anyone who doesn't understand what Rockwell has done for the "movement" is probably a detriment to the movement themselves.

Donate to LRC and the Mises Institute while you're at it. If you guys can cough up money for politicians to spend on propaganda campaigns, you can afford to send money to fund actual education and progression of libertarian ethics and economics.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/donate/

https://www.mises.org/donate.aspx

Epic

07-09-2009, 11:19 PM

Rockwell drives a lot more folks away from the movement than he brings in. I've never met someone he converted, but I've met plenty that were scared off by his antics.

LOL... what are these antics? He basically provides a 100% pro-liberty take on current events.

risk_reward

07-09-2009, 11:30 PM

LOL... what are these antics? He basically provides a 100% pro-liberty take on current events.

That bastard actually believes in freedom. I say don't give to someone so blatantly pro freedom. Give to someone who pretends to believe in freedom instead.

itshappening

07-10-2009, 07:28 AM

SUPPORT LRC :

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pacelli

07-10-2009, 07:36 AM

To remain consistent with Lew's principles, I'll support the idea of a moneybomb, do absolutely nothing, and sit on my ass and talk. ;)

mczerone

07-10-2009, 07:45 AM

I've used LRC as a great aggregator to point to articles about the ever worsening police state (Will Grigg (http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-arch.html)), the failures of IP and the inconsistencies of 'the law' in general (Stephan Kinsella (http://www.lewrockwell.com/kinsella/kinsella-arch.html)), Academic discussion of what free markets could do (Walter Block (http://www.lewrockwell.com/block/block-arch.html)), and great essays and blogs extolling the virtues of freedoms and the quagmires of centralized planning (from, e.g., Karen DeCostner, Gerald Celente, Glenn "Kane" Jacobs, Tom Woods, Tom DiLorenzo, and especially Ron Paul (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html))

mczerone

07-10-2009, 07:46 AM

To remain consistent with Lew's principles, I'll support the idea of a moneybomb, do absolutely nothing, and sit on my ass and talk. ;)

You forgot to ask for donations! :)

yongrel

07-10-2009, 08:37 AM

Cowlesy

07-10-2009, 08:44 AM

If you're looking for an Austrian or free market perspective on current events, as well as first-rate scholary education on the subjects at hand, I would suggest the many resources put out by the George Mason economists, as well as the Mercatus Center.

Pete Boettke, Don Boudreax, Bryan Caplan, Peter Leeson, Tyler Cowen etc.

They have several blogs worth reading (Cafe Hayek, The Austrian Economists, EconLog, Marginal Revolution, etc) and the Mercatus Center has some fantastic stuff.

Also, none of the LRC craziness that turns many off.

All great reads right there --- Marginal Revolution is great.

That being said, I actually like reading the LRC Blog, and really enjoy LRC overall especially all the excellent archives. I'd agree that some of the stuff is abrasive, and some crazy (calling football a bloodsport for the masses caused me to send an eye-roll email to Lew).

I like that though. I don't go to LRC for a lukewarm bowl of soup, ya know? Sometimes I like to read the extreme pro-liberty view to re-focus while walking the tightrope that is political activism.

Donated to LRC and the Mises Institute. I hope their readership continues to grow.

jmlfod87

07-10-2009, 08:54 AM

Rockwell drives a lot more folks away from the movement than he brings in. I've never met someone he converted, but I've met plenty that were scared off by his antics.

Meet Naomi Wolf.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2008-10-30_058_americas_slow_motion_fascist_coup.mp3

miketoles

07-10-2009, 01:45 PM

I read LRC every day. Good stuff.

itshappening

07-10-2009, 02:06 PM

Amazing, Amazing!

Posted by Lew Rockwell on July 10, 2009 01:43 PM

The current donation total is $19,623. Thnk you very much!

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purplechoe

07-10-2009, 02:49 PM

Does Lew actually grow the movement? He seems more of a person radicals turn to after they've already converted. I don't think I've ever seen a Lew article outside of a libertarian forum.

When I see posts like these I sometimes think that maybe the guys that are into eugenics are right... :(

Maybe you should stop posting so much and actually fucus on quality not quantity?

Epic

07-10-2009, 03:01 PM

If you're looking for an Austrian or free market perspective on current events, as well as first-rate scholary education on the subjects at hand, I would suggest the many resources put out by the George Mason economists, as well as the Mercatus Center.

Pete Boettke, Don Boudreax, Bryan Caplan, Peter Leeson, Tyler Cowen etc.

They have several blogs worth reading (Cafe Hayek, The Austrian Economists, EconLog, Marginal Revolution, etc) and the Mercatus Center has some fantastic stuff.

Also, none of the LRC craziness that turns many off.

Tyler Cowen is a joke.
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2005/01/if_i_believed_i.html

I think he's also for the bailouts. He's not even really a libertarian. And Caplan doesn't believe in Austrian Business Cycle Theory. He's said he's not an "Austrian" economist.

Kludge

07-10-2009, 03:11 PM

When I see posts like these I sometimes think that maybe the guys that are into eugenics are right... :(

Maybe you should stop posting so much and actually fucus on quality not quantity?

Good point!

yongrel

07-10-2009, 03:18 PM

Tyler Cowen is a joke.
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2005/01/if_i_believed_i.html

I think he's also for the bailouts. He's not even really a libertarian. And Caplan doesn't believe in Austrian Business Cycle Theory. He's said he's not an "Austrian" economist.

Tyler Cowen's position on the bailouts does not invalidate all of his contributions. In fact, much of his writing is sound, and no one doubts his libertarian credentials. He's what you would call a "libertarian bargainer." I.E. he mainstreams himself while maintaining basic philosophical integrity.

He also is the general director of the Mercatus Center, which does tremendous pro-liberty work.

As for Caplan, I never claimed he was an Austrian. Note the "or free market" clause in my original post. For what it's worth, being an Austrian is not the end-all, be-all in determining an economist's worth.

Epic

07-10-2009, 03:27 PM

As for Caplan, I never claimed he was an Austrian. Note the "or free market" clause in my original post. For what it's worth, being an Austrian is not the end-all, be-all in determining an economist's worth.

I never claimed that you claimed he was an Austrian.

And I never said Austrian economics is the end all, be-all.

ARealConservative

07-10-2009, 03:48 PM

Thomas Woods contributes to Lew and so do I.

You don't have to ba an anarchist, or even Libertarian to appreciate his role

yongrel

07-10-2009, 04:15 PM

I never claimed that you claimed he was an Austrian.

And I never said Austrian economics is the end all, be-all.

Then what the hell were you trying to communicate? You failed to be lucid the first time, apparently, so I'll give ya another shot.

Epic

07-10-2009, 04:19 PM

Then what the hell were you trying to communicate? You failed to be lucid the first time, apparently, so I'll give ya another shot.

I was providing some information on the GMU economists you mentioned. (it was obvious if you know how to read)

Apparently, that's not allowed on the internet these days...

If you think that one of my statements was incorrect, provide evidence to the contrary. For example, if you think I claimed that you said Caplan was an Austrian, then show everyone where I said this.

I feel like I'm explaining discourse rules to a child.

AggieforPaul

07-12-2009, 01:59 AM

There seems to be some pretty good evidence that Rockwell is a racist (collectivist). I can't say I'm his biggest fan.

gls

07-12-2009, 02:10 AM

There seems to be some pretty good evidence that Rockwell is a racist (collectivist). I can't say I'm his biggest fan.

Evidence? All I've seen is a bunch of unsubstantiated gossip from beltway "libertarians" who don't like his consistent opposition to the military empire and the federal reserve.

I donated $20 since I read it every day...

TruthisTreason

07-12-2009, 04:26 PM

Lew just topped the $25,000 mark! :D

heavenlyboy34

07-12-2009, 05:03 PM

Lew just topped the $25,000 mark! :D

w00t! :D:cool:

ClayTrainor

07-12-2009, 05:14 PM

good stuff, i'm glad to see lew has this much support :)

pacelli

07-12-2009, 05:22 PM

Hopefully there will be no whining when the next candidate moneybomb turns up $25,000 less than expected.

Nice job Lew!! Keep that website going!!

In the drab and monotonous words of Lew Rockwell, "you got owned".

/cheer

powerofreason

07-12-2009, 05:55 PM

The fundraiser has been a massive success! Thats gotta piss off all the fake libertarians/catotards. :cool:

heavenlyboy34

07-12-2009, 05:58 PM

The fundraiser has been a massive success! Thats gotta piss off all the fake libertarians/catotards. :cool:

Not to mention the archists and miscellaneous Statists. :cool:

powerofreason

07-12-2009, 06:03 PM

Not to mention the archists and miscellaneous Statists. :cool:

Them too!

devil21

07-12-2009, 06:12 PM

LOL... what are these antics? He basically provides a 100% pro-liberty take on current events.

I lost most of my respect for him when it came out that he was the newsletter author.

I say enough with the "moneybombs". Candidates running campaigns? Sure, great cause that requires gobs of money. Website hosts like LR and AJ? Not so much.

Epic

07-12-2009, 06:15 PM

I lost most of my respect for him when it came out that he was the newsletter author.

I say enough with the "moneybombs". Candidates running campaigns? Sure, great cause that requires gobs of money. Website hosts like LR and AJ? Not so much.

I've heard that it actually wasn't him, and that the reason article was a smear job.

Either way, I wouldn't care. It's not like he's advocating using force against anybody.

As for the fundraising, I hope all liberty fundraisers do well. However, if I had to choose between information sites like LRC, or campaigns like Rand Paul/Peter Schiff, I would rather have the $25k in the hands of the intellectual information spreaders (LRC). The battleground is intellectual. Political progress is just a byproduct.

awake

07-12-2009, 06:31 PM

If we are truly about the free market then complaining about how others spend their money is an idle action. Whether money is directed to Lew, Ron, Peter, Rand or whoever is mute. The fact that the ideas are selling is paramount.

inibo

07-12-2009, 08:21 PM

Rockwell drives a lot more folks away from the movement than he brings in. I've never met someone he converted, but I've met plenty that were scared off by his antics.

Though the real credit goes to Stefan Molyneux for pushing me over the edge, it was Lew Rockwell that laid the groundwork for me. If it weren't for him I would probably not have even heard of Ron Paul until after his clash with Rudy Giuliani.

devil21

07-12-2009, 10:41 PM

Though the real credit goes to Stefan Molyneux for pushing me over the edge, it was Lew Rockwell that laid the groundwork for me. If it weren't for him I would probably not have even heard of Ron Paul until after his clash with Rudy Giuliani.

And that's probably the main difference. I discovered RP via Russo's films so LR is a total afterthought to me. How you came to get involved probably has the biggest impact on whether you feel money is well spent by supporting that individual or not.

pacelli

07-13-2009, 06:21 AM

Whether money is directed to Lew, Ron, Peter, Rand or whoever is mute. The fact that the ideas are selling is paramount.

Great word to describe it-- mute. You hit the nail on the head, partner.

1. Refraining from producing speech or vocal sound.