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speciallyblend
07-08-2009, 09:54 PM
supporting Palin in the primary and then let the gop hangout to dry in the general election! support the best candidate to help the gop alienate themselves faster!

Sounds like a good Plan to me. the gop did it to Ron Paul by running a bunch of cookie cutter Republicans in the Primary! We should back Palin in the 2012 primary and then let the gop fend for themselves in the general!:eek:

might be easier to take over a failed gop!! they have failed but we need to make sure they hit rock bottom .the gop is like a heroin addict. they need to hit rock bottom first before they admit to their big government war mongering anti-liberty addictions,until then they are a drug addict in denial!!

VOTE PALIN to help the GOP hit ROCK BOTTOM!!

RON PAUL's MESSAGE was never about Party, it crossed all party lines!!

Dr.3D
07-08-2009, 09:56 PM
So if people won't vote for the GOP candidate, they will vote for the democrat candidate.
Which party do you want to have win? There are only two choices..... nothing is going to change that.

qh4dotcom
07-08-2009, 10:03 PM
Sorry but the country will not be able to afford another 4 years of Obama.

Andrew-Austin
07-08-2009, 10:05 PM
Core issue at the heart of this thread:

If one doesn't want to partake in selecting the lesser of evils, is it a good idea to at least sabotage the greater evil just to see the lesser evil benefit? Or should one just stay away from the democratic process altogether in disgust, and not bother with the shallow amusement of sabotaging the perceived greater evil?

slacker921
07-08-2009, 10:08 PM
hey, it works for the media.. they did a fine job of it with McCain.

And I agree totally. You want to see the GOP disintegrate? Keep pushing Palin.

speciallyblend
07-08-2009, 10:08 PM
So if people won't vote for the GOP candidate, they will vote for the democrat candidate.
Which party do you want to have win? There are only two choices..... nothing is going to change that.

i would rather have a ron paul dem/lp/cp/tp or anyone but a republican unless they are a ron paul republican. if you just vote republican because a dem is running. then you endorse the very platform your fighting against! and your enabling the neo-con republicans by voting for lesser of 2 evils!!

In Colorado i think the gop will become a 3rd party in the next 2-8 yrs if they fail to listen,but voting for republicans because they run against a dem is why Ron Paul was alienated in the first place. if you endorse a neo-con platform aka republicans then you get what you deserve a neo-con. i will proudly vote for anyone but a Republican unless they are truly ron paul republicans!!

we have 2 ron paul republicans that our cogop refused to support, so now i will be supporting 2 ron paul democrats. screw the gop if they do not listen. i do not deal with devils and to me almost 2/3 of republicans are the devil to me!! the good news is 1/3 of republicans are more aligned to Ron Paul! but if you keep voting for gop hacks .then you can give up taking back the gop. your endorsing the policy your against by enabling them!!

RON PAUL's MESSAGE was never about Party, it crossed all party lines!!

speciallyblend
07-08-2009, 10:10 PM
hey, it works for the media.. they did a fine job of it with McCain.

And I agree totally. You want to see the GOP disintegrate? Keep pushing Palin.

yep. the way i see it is Ron Paul's Platform isn't about the republican party. it crosses all party lines and beliefs!! Politics is politics,just play the game back on the gop! they deserve everything they get and the gop doesn't even deserve my vote yet! I am a New Republican and i am putting the gop on notice shape up or we will ship you out!!

NO MERCY,NO SYMPATHY. after what the gop did to Ron Paul they deserve no less!

RON PAUL's MESSAGE was never about Party, it crossed all party lines!!

Steeleye
07-08-2009, 10:22 PM
What if she gets elected because Obama is such a dismal failure?

speciallyblend
07-08-2009, 10:24 PM
Core issue at the heart of this thread:

If one doesn't want to partake in selecting the lesser of evils, is it a good idea to at least sabotage the greater evil just to see the lesser evil benefit? Or should one just stay away from the democratic process altogether in disgust, and not bother with the shallow amusement of sabotaging the perceived greater evil?

nonsense ,nothing close. if you vote for a republican that doesn't follow ron paul's platform. then you cannot bitch when they tell you to shut up and vote party line. if you voted for mccain then you endorsed a neo-con platform. the dems have nothing to do with the gop earning my vote. if the gop wants my vote they need to earn it, saying obama is running as a dem is not earning my gop vote! maybe you should talk to steele! and you do not have to vote dem or republican at state level!

I think your missing the big picture .In Colorado the gop is about 4-8% points from becoming a 3rd party! If the gop fails to listen .then we take 1/3 of the gop(ron paul republicans) along with the tp/lp/cp/ron paul dems and indy's and form a new party that would send the gop to 3rd party status in COLORADO ASAP!!! that is a good first step for a deaf dumb and blind gop!! the gop does not earn my vote by spouting lesser of 2 evil crap! sorry not buying that BS!

Dr.3D
07-08-2009, 10:35 PM
i would rather have a ron paul dem/lp/cp/tp or anyone but a republican unless they are a ron paul republican. if you just vote republican because a dem is running. then you endorse the very platform your fighting against! and your enabling the neo-con republicans by voting for lesser of 2 evils!!

In Colorado i think the gop will become a 3rd party in the next 2-8 yrs if they fail to listen,but voting for republicans because they run against a dem is why Ron Paul was alienated in the first place. if you endorse a neo-con platform aka republicans then you get what you deserve a neo-con. i will proudly vote for anyone but a Republican unless they are truly ron paul republicans!!

we have 2 ron paul republicans that our cogop refused to support, so now i will be supporting 2 ron paul democrats. screw the gop if they do not listen. i do not deal with devils and to me almost 2/3 of republicans are the devil to me!! the good news is 1/3 of republicans are more aligned to Ron Paul! but if you keep voting for gop hacks .then you can give up taking back the gop. your endorsing the policy your against by enabling them!!

RON PAUL's MESSAGE was never about Party, it crossed all party lines!!

Why all of the hostility? I believe you missed my point entirely. People have the perception of there being only two choices. In reality, if they vote for either one, they get more of the same.

I thought we were supposed to be infiltrating the GOP with our own people. If that isn't the plan, then we better get a plan and get focused on it pretty damned fast. I doubt a multi-facited plan will work as there would be very little focus. I learned way back in my career, if you focus on what you want to have done, it will eventually get done. If you decide to try to get too many different things done, you likely will get none of them done.

speciallyblend
07-08-2009, 10:41 PM
Why all of the hostility? I believe you missed my point entirely. People have the perception of there being only two choices. In reality, if they vote for either one, they get more of the same.

I thought we were supposed to be infiltrating the GOP with our own people. If that isn't the plan, then we better get a plan and get focused on it pretty damned fast. I doubt a multi-facited plan will work as there would be very little focus. I learned way back in my career, if you focus on what you want to have done, it will eventually get done. If you decide to try to get too many different things done, you likely will get none of them done.

my hostility is directed at the gop leadership and their actions in colorado and at our convention deserve more then my hostility. the corruption of the gop at state conventions deserves some shock and awe and more then my words.

i have no sympathy or mercy for the gop and personally think the gop deserves the same fate as the whigs!!

the gop deserves everything i said and more!!

i am trying but i will hold the gop accountable. the gop in my county is dead i cannot get anyone to show so the neo-cons hold their 20% and are dying!! we had a ron paul democrat crush the gop neo-con with 85% of the vote in my county f the gop in lake county! it is not all about the gop in every state! in some states the gop might be worth saving but in colorado the gop is very close to being a 3rd party:) thank god!

the gop should be lucky i am not rioting in the streets and tar and feathring republicans!!

i will never forget the actions of the cogop!! they deserve everything they deserve which is not much!!

speciallyblend
07-08-2009, 10:53 PM
What if she gets elected because Obama is such a dismal failure?

then this country is really screwed! either way! we still need to send almost 70% of the gop packing before we can talk about reclaiming the party . we are about 70% of the way from taking back the party. until the mindless republicans stop endorsing these neo-con sponsored and backed candidates .we are far from retaking the gop but in Colorado we could easily make the gop a 3rd party!! if folks united under Ron Paul's platform!

palin,obama,mccain and bush are pretty much all party of the same party demopublicans! one party system more of the same big government BS . dem/ rep just a bad game of beer pong!

muh_roads
07-08-2009, 11:13 PM
The GOP will sink on its own regardless. Captain Mormon Underoos Romney will fail.

Imperial
07-08-2009, 11:50 PM
I'll vote for a more liberty oriented candidate in the primary and watch as the rank-and-file march to the precipice and descend into the black abyss of their candidate, whether it be Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin.

I am hoping we can be effective enough to force either Palin or Romney to take a good vp and make me actually have to consider a vote for a GOP presidential nominee (unlike McCain-Palin, where Palin only briefly made me seriously consider that ticket until she came out with her hawkishness).

dgr
07-09-2009, 12:08 AM
Ya'll need to take a deep breath, palin will not be the GOP candidate, the new GOP is going to have a hard time getting a candidate period. The RNC is still getting raked over the coals when they make fundraising calls. Same thing for the last 6 years and they stil haven't learned. If a third party candidate or an independent GOP candidate can not gain monentum it will be close, but the whole thing depends upon if the GOP tries to front load the primaries and cut out the south again. The bigger issue is congress there is nothing that can be done about the liberal states, it doesn't matter as much as who is president THE REAL CONTROLL IS CONGRESS

John of Des Moines
07-09-2009, 01:21 AM
What if she gets elected because Obama is such a dismal failure?

If Palin were to get elected then we've reached the end times. Dog and cats living together, mass hysteria. This video explains it better:

YouTube - Ghostbusters (1984) "Cats and Dogs" speech in Mayors Office (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w91-GMc3j7I&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideosearch%3 Fq%3Dghostbusters%26oe%3Dutf-8%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN%26h&feature=player_embedded)

acptulsa
07-09-2009, 07:45 AM
Last time they ran a plethora of imitation conservatives to split the conservative vote and allow an imitation moderate to win. Ron Paul got lost in that crowd. Don't know if they'll be trying to skew things the same way next time. Certainly they'll present 'approved' 'libertarian' candidates to split our votes (note the quote marks). By then the economy will no longer be in the crapper, as the crapper will have been flushed by then. People will no longer be entralled by the status quo, and that's an understatement.

My job as I see it is to ensure as many people as possible can tell the 'approved' 'libertarian' candidates from the real libertarian candidates. But then, I don't want to kill the G.O.P. I want us to own it, just as real, libertarian Americans now own the Tulsa County G.O.P.

LibertyEagle
07-09-2009, 07:59 AM
Why all of the hostility? I believe you missed my point entirely. People have the perception of there being only two choices. In reality, if they vote for either one, they get more of the same.

I thought we were supposed to be infiltrating the GOP with our own people. If that isn't the plan, then we better get a plan and get focused on it pretty damned fast. I doubt a multi-facited plan will work as there would be very little focus. I learned way back in my career, if you focus on what you want to have done, it will eventually get done. If you decide to try to get too many different things done, you likely will get none of them done.

+1

Andrew-Austin
07-09-2009, 08:27 AM
nonsense ,nothing close. if you vote for a republican that doesn't follow ron paul's platform. then you cannot bitch when they tell you to shut up and vote party line. if you voted for mccain then you endorsed a neo-con platform. the dems have nothing to do with the gop earning my vote. if the gop wants my vote they need to earn it, saying obama is running as a dem is not earning my gop vote! maybe you should talk to steele! and you do not have to vote dem or republican at state level!

I think your missing the big picture .In Colorado the gop is about 4-8% points from becoming a 3rd party! If the gop fails to listen .then we take 1/3 of the gop(ron paul republicans) along with the tp/lp/cp/ron paul dems and indy's and form a new party that would send the gop to 3rd party status in COLORADO ASAP!!! that is a good first step for a deaf dumb and blind gop!! the gop does not earn my vote by spouting lesser of 2 evil crap! sorry not buying that BS!

Okay.. My post was pretty simple but it seems you misunderstood it. Going out of your way to sabotage the GOP is unwittingly helping the Dems in the election.
Why does it matter what neocon they pick in the primaries, there already is a good chance that they will fuck up the next Presidential election and Obama will have a second term. Your plan for sabotage seems irrelevant, at least to anyone who does not share this personal vendetta against the GOP. Why don't you just try looking for a decent candidate to vote for in the primaries, ignoring the evils in both parties, and let the chips fall where they may.

Stary Hickory
07-09-2009, 08:36 AM
Man help the Democrats shrink. I understand the GOP hate, but throwing the country to a buch of statist socialists is not my idea of smart. I like the idea of working inside the GOP to change it, but I am not ready to let Democrats load us down with socialism.

The Democrats need to go, or we need to lock them up so they can't do anything.

acptulsa
07-09-2009, 08:42 AM
Man help the Democrats shrink. I understand the GOP hate, but throwing the country to a buch of statist socialists is not my idea of smart. I like the idea of working inside the GOP to change it, but I am not ready to let Democrats load us down with socialism.

The Democrats need to go, or we need to lock them up so they can't do anything.

I think he wants to kill the G.O.P. off so we can replace it with something that actually represents an alternative to the Democratic Party. What we have now is an even more warmongering, semi-articulate imitation of it. Not good enough.

armstrong
07-09-2009, 09:14 AM
we continue down the path of worse and worser which is always worse than before (a dismal path ) Until we ,Us, The American people stand up and demand term limits in the states and Federal Government nothing will ever change. And we all wonder why so much Apathy in the populace , fight the good fight only to loose --- spend money you don't have to support candidates and loose --I say take back one state at a time is the only way when people see success somewhere anywhere then its something that is real and does not seem so useless..so many people say what is the use......sad but true-----Where did we drop of the term WE THE PEOPLE ? so so frustrating.........

Dr.3D
07-09-2009, 09:25 AM
I think he wants to kill the G.O.P. off so we can replace it with something that actually represents an alternative to the Democratic Party. What we have now is an even more warmongering, semi-articulate imitation of it. Not good enough.

Isn't it better to just take control of both parties?
You can't kill what is already dead. I don't personally care which party is in power at this time, as it doesn't make any difference.

The best way to change the system, is to become part of the system and work from within it to make the change you are looking for.

If we had people on both sides of the isle who were working to restore the Republic, it wouldn't take very long to see the changes we are working toward.

Trying to destroy something is not the answer. It is better to change what we have and turn it toward a positive direction. If you destroy one side of the isle, the other will only become more powerful. Let's build up both sides from within and work to make them what we want them to be.

klamath
07-09-2009, 09:29 AM
Man help the Democrats shrink. I understand the GOP hate, but throwing the country to a buch of statist socialists is not my idea of smart. I like the idea of working inside the GOP to change it, but I am not ready to let Democrats load us down with socialism.

The Democrats need to go, or we need to lock them up so they can't do anything.
The OP has a personal fight against the CO GOP and his only interest is getting revenge. He basically doesn't post anything unless it is anti GOP and getting revenge against all the GOP.

heavenlyboy34
07-09-2009, 09:42 AM
then this country is really screwed! either way! we still need to send almost 70% of the gop packing before we can talk about reclaiming the party . we are about 70% of the way from taking back the party. until the mindless republicans stop endorsing these neo-con sponsored and backed candidates .we are far from retaking the gop but in Colorado we could easily make the gop a 3rd party!! if folks united under Ron Paul's platform!

palin,obama,mccain and bush are pretty much all party of the same party demopublicans! one party system more of the same big government BS . dem/ rep just a bad game of beer pong!

off topic comment-Your grammar and punctuation are amusing and charming, speciallyblend! :D:)

pcosmar
07-09-2009, 09:42 AM
If Palin were to get elected then we've reached the end times. Dog and cats living together, mass hysteria. This video explains it better:



Cats and Dogs sleeping together., Oh Noes

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3314438366_749bbcc454.jpg?v=0

I can't believe that folks here really believe that there is a difference between the GOP and the DNC.
Ron Paul's message was to wake up folks.
So Wake UP.

armstrong
07-09-2009, 09:47 AM
concentrated effort in say 5 states, Washington, Oregon, Nevada,Texas,Minnesota and who knows maybe California may wake up without our help with the mess they are in... then I think we could get somewhere. only my opinion.

speciallyblend
07-09-2009, 10:39 AM
Okay.. My post was pretty simple but it seems you misunderstood it. Going out of your way to sabotage the GOP is unwittingly helping the Dems in the election.
Why does it matter what neocon they pick in the primaries, there already is a good chance that they will fuck up the next Presidential election and Obama will have a second term. Your plan for sabotage seems irrelevant, at least to anyone who does not share this personal vendetta against the GOP. Why don't you just try looking for a decent candidate to vote for in the primaries, ignoring the evils in both parties, and let the chips fall where they may.

i diasgree. i will be holding the gop accountable on all levels. the dems have nothing to do with gop bs on us!! if the gop wants to win they better listen or the gop will lose as i will never vote for a gop that doesnt listen one bit. holding the dems over my head to vote republican is not going to happen . that is the same ole lesser of 2 evil bs. i will not vote for either evil. if the gop wants my vote my money .they better listen . i do not buy oooo the evil dems will win if i do not vote gop! not buying it! i would rather vote for a 3rd party candidate then waste it on a bs republican! (not talking ron paul republicans). i will continue to send republicans packing if they are not true to ron paul's message!

that is what i am saying. i am not helping the dems unless they are ron paul democrats. did you not miss the cogop has turned their backs on ron paul republicans running! let the gop die if they fail to support ron paul republicans. ron paul dems or republicans doesnt matter to me the message does. if the gop continues to be deaf dumb and blind. then they deserve to lose to a ron paul democrat. this is not my problem take your argument to the gop not me!!

note i am still a republican,but it doesnt mean i have to vote republican. i will not vote for a republican just because a dem is running and if a ron paul democrat is running against a gop backed republican who is a neo-con or undercover neo-con. then i will gladly vote for a Ron Paul Democrat over a gop backed republican anyday! when 2010 elections start you will understand ron paul democrats are more republican then republicans in colorado. the gop is dying and if we cannot save it. then in colorado it will be time to be the 2nd major party as the cogop becomes a 3rd party! common sense so i mnot sure what your problem is. if you have a problem with the cogop maybe yopu should be talking to them not me. the cogop doesn't deserve my vote. we now have 2 ron paul republicans that will be running as ron paul democrats. that says it all .the cogop deserves what it gets!

don't get me wrong we are gaining ground in some counties but if the gop fails to listen. then we leave the party and if we do in colorado the gop would be a 3rd party overnight basically!!

speciallyblend
07-09-2009, 10:49 AM
Isn't it better to just take control of both parties?
You can't kill what is already dead. I don't personally care which party is in power at this time, as it doesn't make any difference.

The best way to change the system, is to become part of the system and work from within it to make the change you are looking for.

If we had people on both sides of the isle who were working to restore the Republic, it wouldn't take very long to see the changes we are working toward.

Trying to destroy something is not the answer. It is better to change what we have and turn it toward a positive direction. If you destroy one side of the isle, the other will only become more powerful. Let's build up both sides from within and work to make them what we want them to be.

really depends on the state! im speaking about Colorado though! and if the gop becomes a 3rd party and the new coalition becomes the 2nd party then why do you need the gop if they are the 3rd party in colorado. i think supporting a party that can sell to voters is better then supporting a party no one wants to touch with a 10ft pole .the gop will be a 3rd party soon in colorado if they keep playing their games. which they are maybe in 12 yrs they might shape until then. i plan on sending them out of office until they do!

speciallyblend
07-09-2009, 10:52 AM
The OP has a personal fight against the CO GOP and his only interest is getting revenge. He basically doesn't post anything unless it is anti GOP and getting revenge against all the GOP.

you know nothing about my motives or agenda other then the cogop is choosing to be a 3rd party! i am anti-gop . i am not anti ron paul republican . did you go to the cogop convention. did you go to my caucus? if not you know nothing of colorado politics! the gop is 3-6% points from being a 3rd party . what part of that do you not get. i didnt do that the gop did!

the gop deserves everything they get. i do not support right wing nuts and anti liberty republicans! the gop is gonna die on their own and maybe with a lil help by me. if they listen ,but they are not!

what part of the cogop refused to support 2 ron paul republicans did you not get . i didnt decide that .the cogop did. i will support ron paul supporters no matter the party .if that is anti-gop then sign me up!

this is the gop's problem not mine

i have every right to be angry. to be honest! and i am still fighting but the cogop is not listening .they elected the same very neo-cons. the fact 70% of registered republicans would vote for palin shows we have far to go. when that numbers gets to 10-30% then we have made ground. the cogop is refusing to support ron paul republicans. i will vote for a ron paul democrat before i vote for a bs gop backed wanna be ron paul republican!

Andrew-Austin
07-09-2009, 10:55 AM
No where did I say you had to vote for one of the two evils, I suggested the opposite. But you will be doing so anyway in the primaries according to the OP.


i diasgree. i will be holding the gop accountable on all levels. the dems have nothing to do with gop bs on us!! if the gop wants to win they better listen or the gop will lose as i will never vote for a gop that doesnt listen one bit. holding the dems over my head to vote republican is not going to happen . that is the same ole lesser of 2 evil bs. i will not vote for either evil. if the gop wants my vote my money .they better listen . i do not buy oooo the evil dems will win if i do not vote gop! not buying it! i would rather vote for a 3rd party candidate then waste it on a bs republican! (not talking ron paul republicans). i will continue to send republicans packing if they are not true to ron paul's message!

that is what i am saying. i am not helping the dems unless they are ron paul democrats. did you not miss the cogop has turned their backs on ron paul republicans running! let the gop die if they fail to support ron paul republicans. ron paul dems or republicans doesnt matter to me the message does. if the gop continues to be deaf dumb and blind. then they deserve to lose to a ron paul democrat. this is not my problem take your argument to the gop not me!!

note i am still a republican,but it doesnt mean i have to vote republican. i will not vote for a republican just because a dem is running and if a ron paul democrat is running against a gop backed republican who is a neo-con or undercover neo-con. then i will gladly vote for a Ron Paul Democrat over a gop backed republican anyday! when 2010 elections start you will understand ron paul democrats are more republican then republicans in colorado. the gop is dying and if we cannot save it. then in colorado it will be time to be the 2nd major party as the cogop becomes a 3rd party! common sense so i mnot sure what your problem is. if you have a problem with the cogop maybe yopu should be talking to them not me. the cogop doesn't deserve my vote. we now have 2 ron paul republicans that will be running as ron paul democrats. that says it all .the cogop deserves what it gets!

don't get me wrong we are gaining ground in some counties but if the gop fails to listen. then we leave the party and if we do in colorado the gop would be a 3rd party overnight basically!!

speciallyblend
07-09-2009, 10:56 AM
off topic comment-Your grammar and punctuation are amusing and charming, speciallyblend! :D:)

well i careless i suck at typing and unless it is a paper to be graded . i carless notice i left the e out internet ebonics i suck at typing deal with it!

speciallyblend
07-09-2009, 10:57 AM
No where did I say you had to vote for one of the two evils, I suggested the opposite. But you will be doing so anyway in the primaries according to the OP.

so voting for a ron paul democrat is bad now? hmmmm yeah whatever

Andrew-Austin
07-09-2009, 10:59 AM
so voting for a ron paul democrat is bad now? hmmmm yeah whatever

What? Dude I'm just going of what you said.


Supporting Palin in the primary and then let the gop hangout to dry in the general election! support the best candidate to help the gop alienate themselves faster!

! We should back Palin in the 2012 primary and then let the gop fend for themselves in the general!


That is voting for one of the two evils in the primaries, and I was saying it was a redundant scheme and you should just vote for a non-evil perhaps third party candidate in BOTH the primaries and the general or not at all.

speciallyblend
07-09-2009, 11:47 AM
I think he wants to kill the G.O.P. off so we can replace it with something that actually represents an alternative to the Democratic Party. What we have now is an even more warmongering, semi-articulate imitation of it. Not good enough.

yep that is the short story. now in colorado we just need the ron paul dem leaders and the ron paul republican leaders and tp/lp/cp and indys in colorado and ill pay the 500 dollar fee and we create a new platform and new party and overnight .the gop is a 3rd party! that is the bottom line in colorado!

once the gop in colorado is a 3rd party. they are out in colorado! the minute you form the new party coalition. the gop is the 3rd party and we would be the second major party in colorado!

ChaosControl
07-09-2009, 11:50 AM
I'd laugh if Palin ended up winning after that just because Obama was such an absolute failure that even McCain could beat him next go around.

No, I'll support the best candidate in the primary thanks.

speciallyblend
07-09-2009, 11:52 AM
What? Dude I'm just going of what you said.



That is voting for one of the two evils in the primaries, and I was saying it was a redundant scheme and you should just vote for a non-evil perhaps third party candidate in BOTH the primaries and the general or not at all.

what isaid is i would vote for someone other then a democrat/republican and i would support ron paul democrats! that is what i said. i would support a ron paul republican but the cogop has forced our 2 ron paul republicans running to run as democrats aka ron paul democrats! that is what i said my aCTIONS ARE NOT HELPING THE DEMS .THE COGOP ACTIONS ARE HELPING THE DEMS err caps! the fact is the only ones to blame for the demise of the gop is the gop not me!

i never said i would vote for dems. i said i vote for anyone but a republican as long as they supported the ron paul platform. if the gop wants my vote .they better give me someone to vote for. the gop is the one alienating republicans to run as ron paul democrats! so not sure why your upset with me voting for ron paul candidates no matter the party!!

i will never vote for a republican just because a dem is running i would vote 3rd party or vote for a ron paul democrat anyday over a gop bs undercover neo-con posing as a ron paul dem/rep.

i will choose a ron paul republican forced to run as a ron paul democrat over any republican or dem anyday! i look forward to helping 2 ron paul democrats run and donating to them,since the cogop turned their backs on them!

and for the grammar bots deal with my lack of typing and english! if not then just ignore.

speciallyblend
07-09-2009, 11:57 AM
No where did I say you had to vote for one of the two evils, I suggested the opposite. But you will be doing so anyway in the primaries according to the OP.

i never said i was voting for lesser of 2 evils just the opposite myself

i would vote 3rd party before i would ever vote for a dem or republican. i will vote for a ron paul republican or democrat though!!

edit i would get involved in the LP again maybe in the future once they join a new coalition. the lp lost me after 12 yrs especially nominating bob barr,but i left the lp to join the gop when i heard Ron Paul. i am a new republican as i thought the gop wanted but it seems the gop doesn't want republicans!

will i be involved in the gop primary? that is up to the gop leadership! they have yet to listen to anything and i do not see them listening anytime soon to the ron paul movement! i will support the best candidates running in the election ,no matter the party! i think the 20% of the gop in colorado wants to expell 1/3(ron paul republicans) of the party and i would be more then happy to help the gop form a new party to make the gop a 3rd party. if the gop wants that i will gladly hand it to them on a silver platter and i have 500 bucks ready to charge to my card to form a new coalition in colorado. just need the cp/lp/tp/rpr/rpd/indy leaders to wake up and stop marginalizing themselves. if a new coalition in colorado is formed .then the gop will be the marginalized 3rd party:) not my problem:) i am willing to work with the gop but the gop is not listening . if they were they wouldn't of re-elected the same neo-con failed state leadership. i bet the gop would listen after they become a 3rd party in colorado and it would make national news! if that didn't wake the gop. then they 100% deserve to die as a national party!! but oo well since 70% of republicans would vote for palin. we are along way from reclaiming anything with brainwashed republicans willing to vote for palin. makes me sick to my stomach!

does google chrome have a spell check app? i deleted firefox/mozilla and ie they all suck and crash!