Sarah Palin Resigns

[Rael]

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Friday that she would not seek a second term next year, setting up a potential run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.

Palin made the announcement from her home in Wasilla, flanked by her husband, Todd, and family and state commissioners.

Palin's decision now allows her to avoid the difficult task of running for president while serving as governor.

Palin gained national prominence when GOP presidential candidate John McCain picked her as his running mate last year. But her approval ratings in the state have skidded in recent months.

Palin has been dogged in recent months by ethics inquiries. Her office last month announced the 15th dismissal of an ethics complaint against her or one of her staff.

Palin defeated incumbent Gov. Murkowski in a primary in 2006

[Liberty Star]

That won't make her "running for President" any easier at all, it might make her chances even lesser LOL

[Rael]

That won't make her "running for President" any easier at all, it might make her chances even lesser LOL

I agree

[Rangeley]

Shes not only not running, shes resigning later this month.

[jmlfod87]

Yea, I dont get why breitbart is reporting that "the announcement stirred speculation that she would focus on a bid for the 2012 Republican nomination for president."

To me it seems like the opposite. If she was serious about running she would want to atleast finish her term. The only way she could stay relevant is if Chairman Steele resigned and Palin replaced him or something.

[Rangeley]

Yea, I dont get why breitbart is reporting that "the announcement stirred speculation that she would focus on a bid for the 2012 Republican nomination for president."

To me it seems like the opposite. If she was serious about running she would want to atleast finish her term. The only way she could stay relevant is if Chairman Steele resigned and Palin replaced him or something.
I agree, it seems pretty unlikely that she intends to run for president after doing this.

[Sarge]

This new news said she is running. Just hitting the wire.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/03/palin-opts-run-second-term-alaska-governor/

[Epic]

For 2012, Palin, Romney, and Huckabee are basically all in. [EDIT: Never mind, looks like this Palin move ISN'T consistent with her running for president]

And they all have about the same strength right now. In fact, one recent poll had them all tied for 2012.

I think only a R3VOLUTION candidate could challenge that trio, now that Sanford is out. Demint is conservative enough to stand out, but he doesn't really have the chops/charisma/drive.

I'd love to see Ron Paul run again and win some early primaries by scores of 30 - 20 - 20 - 20 as the three mainstream republicans split most of the mainstream/neocon republican vote.

[slacker921]

hey GOP......

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[sarahgop]

she is a quitface. i am disappointed.

[Sandra]

Dumbest move in political history. Now she will be a housewife running for president? Anything she goes into now will just look like polished crap.

[SimpleName]

OH NO! Sarah Palin, the dopiest governor in the US isn't seeking re-election. This is almost as bad as Michael Jackson's death.

UGH! Faux News and their constant admiration for this annoying [whatever you like here]. It drives me nuts, especially when Beck pours it on. Him and his love for "honest" people. Even Barry Goldwater Jr. (and my parents...err) talks delightfully of her. Do these people remember just a few months ago she was running alongside the lying freedom hating warmonger John McCain? If she was honest or had principle, she wouldn't be touting and running with that anti-human that so many of these same people hate. She is worthless and cares for the good of her family, not the good of the country and Americans in general...the same philosophy that the Rockefellers have.

[Epic]

Alright, now I'm hearing that some people says that she is out of politics for good? As in, this isn't a strategic move for 2010 or 2012?

Edit: Fox News had Huckabee on the phone, asking him what this would do to the next prez election, lol...

[t0rnado]

She just resigned

[paulitics]

I predict she will not run for president, but that she will write a book and make millions. Not a bad deal for her.

[Epic]

"Sources told NBC’s Andrea Mitchell that Palin is out of politics for good."

-hotair

[Stary Hickory]

Could be for a Senate seat, which I believe is good for us. I realize she isn't a libertarian but I think she would roll with Libertarians on a lot of issues. I am taking what I can get, if we can get a dedicated liberty minded bunch in the Senate with some libertarians in also, it could make things better for us in the long run.

And that means she might not be looking at the presidency where I believe she would screw things up.

[South Park Fan]

Romney must be smiling right now. With Palin, Sanford, Ensign, Huntsman, Crist, and Jindal out of his way, he won't have to deal with a split in the neo-con vote. :(

[muh_roads]

She is not running for anything. She wants out of the spotlight. She is upset how her family was treated since being VP nominee in 2008.

[Matt Collins]

If she were smart she would run for Senate and serve there for a couple of terms. THEN she would be qualified to run for President after having both legislative and executive experience.

[sparebulb]

This stupid neocon whore isn't out of evil policy-making by any means. Look for this stupid tramp to be a lobbyist for the oil companies or the new oil pipeline multinational company that is constructing the gas pipeline out of Alaska.

If the GOP runs her, or makes her a principal in their platform, kiss the GOP goodbye. Maybe this is good for movements outside of the two parties.

[libertarian4321]

If she were smart

But we know that she isn't, so what do you think she will do? :)

I hope she stays in Alaska and hunts Moose for the next 20 years or so- lets get an intelligent, libertarian minded candidate for 2012.

I will give Palin credit for doing one good thing though- she got the cable news channels off their week long 24-7 "Michael Jackson is still dead" coverage.

[Matt Collins]

Remember she was rumored to be on Ron's short list for VP too!

[Epic]

I heard RP say John Stossel and Walter Williams would be good VP choices for him in 08.

[libertarian4321]

Remember she was rumored to be on Ron's short list for VP too!

If that's true, I don't think its something we should be advertising, unless we want to torpedo Ron Paul.

Lets just say it was an evil rumor stated by the McCain campaign, deny it, and move on...

[virgil47]

Sparebulb = dimbulb. Have you ever been the governor of ANY state? Do you have any political experience? Are you out of high school? Get a life and grow up.

[sparebulb]

Remember she was rumored to be on Ron's short list for VP too!

I'm willing to bet that RP would reconsider that notion in light of the events of the last election cycle.........and would be willing to admit it.

[sparebulb]

Sparebulb = dimbulb. Have you ever been the governor of ANY state? Do you have any political experience? Are you out of high school? Get a life and grow up.

To what are you referring? The part where I called Palin a stupid whore or the part where I call you an oozing anal wart?

[1000-points-of-fright]

Remember she was rumored to be on Ron's short list for VP too!

If by short list you mean nobody knew anything about her and then she casually said Ron Paul was pretty cool and then suddenly a bunch of people on this forum were all "OMG she should be his VP!"... then yes she was on the short list.

[virgil47]

sparebulb you are a prime example of what is wrong with America today. You are juvenile, have a limited vocabulary and are disrespectful to those that frighten you.

[sparebulb]

sparebulb you are a prime example of what is wrong with America today. You are juvenile, have a limited vocabulary and are disrespectful to those that frighten you.

Sphincter says what?

Virgil47, your problem seems to be that you are on ronpaulforums.com not palinforclasspresident.com. You need to show some restraint and monitor your own stupid remarks rather than monitoring mine.

[Matt Collins]

If by short list you mean nobody knew anything about her and then she casually said Ron Paul was pretty cool and then suddenly a bunch of people on this forum were all "OMG she should be his VP!"... then yes she was on the short list.
Notice I used the word "rumor" for a reason. :rolleyes:

[Pauls' Revere]

Palin quitting her governor position. With Romney now "prepping" for 2012 guess who his running mate will be?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_palin_resigning

The GOP is out of ideas.

:rolleyes:

[virgil47]

sparebulb you are and those like you are one of the reasons the libertarians are not taken seriously. Your kind did and continue to do damage to any chance Ron Paul had or may have in the future to become president. Do you hate Ron Paul that much that you would continuously try to make his supporters look like grade schoolers?

[tonesforjonesbones]

I like Sarah Palin. I'm sure there is a plan somewhere in there. tones

[2BFree]

I like Sarah as well.

Of the four, Obama, McCain, Biden or Palin, I would take Sarah Palin any day.

Perfect candidate - not at all - but better than many if not most. I like her willingness to develop energy resources. I like that she's not a polished insider politician. I like that she hunts. I like her speaking out for disabled children. I like her "small government" and private sector approach to development.

Sparebulb's got some issues with Palin - too bad he didn't share any opinions worthy of attention.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Romney must be smiling right now. With Palin, Sanford, Ensign, Huntsman, Crist, and Jindal out of his way, he won't have to deal with a split in the neo-con vote. :(


Bain Capital and ALL the FACISTS are lickin their Chops for Manchurian Mitt. Even Leftist Socialists on NBC's Meet the Press, are pushing Mitt Romney(on with NEOCON Lindsey Gramham last week). The Game is Rigged

Rigging the game early... Hey Mitt, how's the Mass state Budget and Social Medicine going? RED RED RED...

Whisper... Raised Taxes GREEN GREEN GREEN

Oh and the Slimeball Sermon Preachin Hucklberry? the hijacked Evangelical Cursaders...

Boy is the GOP gearing up for reverse with the culch pushed in...
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[Flash]

Lets get a liberty candidate to run for Alaskan governor come 2012!


I think only a R3VOLUTION candidate could challenge that trio, now that Sanford is out. Demint is conservative enough to stand out, but he doesn't really have the chops/charisma/drive.



I don't mind Demint, or that Bunning guy. I think they both supported S. 604 right? Even if they don't exactly fit the liberty candidate description, I think they'll be good enough to oppose the NeoCons in the 2012 debates.

And I do hope Ron Paul & Gary Johnson both make a run for the Presidency.

[sparebulb]

sparebulb you are and those like you are one of the reasons the libertarians are not taken seriously. Your kind did and continue to do damage to any chance Ron Paul had or may have in the future to become president. Do you hate Ron Paul that much that you would continuously try to make his supporters look like grade schoolers?

I do not make it a policy to self censor my thoughts or speech to accommodate your sensitivities, Virgil. If you have a grievance with any of my posts, take it up with the Moderator.

In case you haven't noticed, Virgil, libertarianism is not an orthodoxy. And it sure as hell isn't to be determined by an anonymous internet troll such as you.

You don't like my language? You haven't specifically said that.

You think that people like me are what is wrong with America? It is interesting that you think that you have the ability to determine that. You sound like a political eugenicist. Very un-libertarian.

You think that I'm trying to harm the Ron Paul movement? That's right. Millions of voters will reject Ron Paul and libertarianism all because some off-color comment made by a lone internet message board contributor that doesn't like Palin. I guess that makes sense to someone with his head stuffed up close to his duodenum.

You don't like that I am critical of Palin? I think we have a winner.

Virgil47 attempts to muzzle people that criticize his inspirational friend, Sarah Palin. Again, Virgil, I remind you that this is not the Palin2012 message board.

[sparebulb]

I like Sarah Palin. I'm sure there is a plan somewhere in there. tones

Tones, I know that you know that I'm OK with you liking Sarah Palin.

[slacker921]

I LOL at people who still support Palin.


AIPAC ❤'s Palin

[sparebulb]

I like Sarah as well.

Of the four, Obama, McCain, Biden or Palin, I would take Sarah Palin any day.

Perfect candidate - not at all - but better than many if not most. I like her willingness to develop energy resources. I like that she's not a polished insider politician. I like that she hunts. I like her speaking out for disabled children. I like her "small government" and private sector approach to development.

Sparebulb's got some issues with Palin - too bad he didn't share any opinions worthy of attention.

Palin better than O'commie, McTraitor, and Blighden? Sure, I'll go with that.

Palin's "willingness to develop energy resources" = oil company lobbyist

Palin "not a polished insider politician" = she's incompetent, insufficiently educated, and obtuse

"I like that she hunts" = you respond positively to staged visuals. So did millions of Germans in the '30's and '40's

"I like her speaking out for disabled children" = So do I. I like puppies, too.

"I like her "small government" and private sector approach to development" = Recycled George W Bush's 2000 campaign promise. That worked out great, didn't it.

"Sparebulb's got some issues with Palin - too bad he didn't share any opinions worthy of attention." = I obviously got your attention, therefore, it was worthy.

[parocks]

Remember she was rumored to be on Ron's short list for VP too!

Yeah, I was wondering why all the Palin hate. Back in 2007, here on the ron paul forums, there was a lot of discussion about who, if anyone, should be RP's vice presidential nominee. Palin was mentioned more than anyone (Sanford was also mentioned). There was a reason that Palin was so well liked here in 07, and that was primarily her record. McCain was disliked, and I guess Palin was automatically disliked because of McCain. But we liked her in 2007 for a good reason.

[parocks]

I like Sarah Palin. I'm sure there is a plan somewhere in there. tones

Agreed. There are many plans available. Senate in 2010 or President in 2012.
Resigning will look brilliant if she runs for President in 2012.

Yes, resigning looks not so good right now, because people are conditioned to believe in "keep your political job at all costs", and people rarely resign for "good" reasons.

The case she can make would make her look good and the incumbents that she's running against look bad. "I quit my job to run for President. It's a great job, I love my job. My opponent loves his job too, he's been in the senate for 20 years. They had a vote today in the Senate. My opponent wasn't there. He's not doing his job."

Resigning looks not so good right now, but when she's running for President, it will look like a brilliant strategic move.

In addition, resigning now will allow her to spend a lot more time down here helping Republicans get elected in 2009 and especially 2010. She draws huge numbers when she speaks - 20k in upstate NY less than 2 months ago.

[BEOWULF]

Unless the rumors of JAG ACTION and a PIVOT are true.

[Bodhi]

Alaska's governor Sarah Palin to resign, dooming her presidential pipe dream

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/07/04/2009-07-04_alaskas_governor_sarah_palin_resigns_dooming_he r_presidential_pipe_dream.html#ixzz0KI9GWmsW&C

[sparebulb]

Palin has never completed a single job that she started. It is her pattern to sweep into office as a "reformer", stir up a bunch of shit, cause mayhem and blame everyone else for everything, and then resign. She's very good at pointing out the ethical improprieties of others, yet conveniently ignores her own. All the while, playing the victim of "vicious" attacks upon her family.

So much for the pitbull with lipstick. At the end of the day, she's just another poltical opportunist looking for the next better thing and counting on support from those that are too lazy or stupid to scrutinize her record.

[angelatc]

LOL! 4 threads on this, and the most popular has a title that, while not entirely wrong, is rather misleading.

[angelatc]

I LOL at people who still support Palin.


AIPAC ❤'s Palin

That's where she lost me. She met AIPAC even before she met the press.

[angelatc]

So much for the pitbull with lipstick. At the end of the day, she's just another poltical opportunist looking for the next better thing and counting on support from those that are too lazy or stupid to scrutinize her record.

But that's what wins elections.

[muh_roads]

I LOL at people who still support Palin.


AIPAC ❤'s Palin

She also said the Iraq War was a task from God. What a nutbag.

[virgil47]

I do not make it a policy to self censor my thoughts or speech to accommodate your sensitivities, Virgil. If you have a grievance with any of my posts, take it up with the Moderator.

I don't have any difficulty with your choice of words just your desire to belittle those that you don't like.

In case you haven't noticed, Virgil, libertarianism is not an orthodoxy. And it sure as hell isn't to be determined by an anonymous internet troll such as you.

The way you portray libertarianism is certainly unorthodox and speaking of trolls. If the shoe fits Mr. Trollmiester.

You don't like my language? You haven't specifically said that.

You are correct at least in this observation.

You think that people like me are what is wrong with America? It is interesting that you think that you have the ability to determine that. You sound like a political eugenicist. Very un-libertarian.

My skill in determining your apparent lack of knowledge comes from many years of observing the political process. It is apparent from your posts that you do not have this experience and therefore have no idea of how the process was designed to work. You also do not appear to be aware of many of the nuances of today's political process.

You think that I'm trying to harm the Ron Paul movement? That's right. Millions of voters will reject Ron Paul and libertarianism all because some off-color comment made by a lone internet message board contributor that doesn't like Palin. I guess that makes sense to someone with his head stuffed up close to his duodenum.

With time and experience you will come to understand how even one person can damage a candidate and his platform. I hope for your sake that someday you outgrow your propensity for off color remarks and develop a better command of our language.

You don't like that I am critical of Palin? I think we have a winner.

Being critical of Palin is not the issue. Your acting in a juvenile and uneducated manner is what I find offensive. I truly thought that the vast majority of Ron Paul supporters had better than average educations and were capable of expressing themselves in an adult and reasoned manner.

Virgil47 attempts to muzzle people that criticize his inspirational friend, Sarah Palin. Again, Virgil, I remind you that this is not the Palin2012 message board.

Palin did not get elected and I see no reason for your off color and juvenile comments about a governor of one of the 50 states. If you are truly so fascinated with Palin that you must post about her please try to use grown up language.

[Objectivist]

Palin/ Gingrich 2012

[sparebulb]

Virgil47, you seem to have some vested interest in Sarah Palin. Is she your slutty cousin or something?

[gls]

Palin/ Gingrich 2012

Get your t-shirts and bumper stickers at zazzle.com!!

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[virgil47]

Virgil47, you seem to have some vested interest in Sarah Palin. Is she your slutty cousin or something?

Go away troll.

[Objectivist]

Get your t-shirts and bumper stickers at zazzle.com!!

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http://www.freestuffpage.com/forums/images/smilies/puke.gif

Why would I buy one of those shirts?

[angelatc]

She also said the Iraq War was a task from God. What a nutbag.

That's not what she said. That's what the libtards said she said.

This is what she said: "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's will."

She said we should be praying that we are doing God's will, not at all sounding sure that we were doing God's will.

[Bman]

That's not what she said. That's what the libtards said she said.

This is what she said: "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's will."

She said we should be praying that we are doing God's will, not at all sounding sure that we were doing God's will.

ummm no. That's what she said.

YouTube - Sarah Palin: Iraq is a task from God (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ypVSYoEKA)

Palin would be worse than GWB Jr.

[Objectivist]

My opinion on Palin is that out of the bag she was refreshing and has a understanding of the need for domestic energy production thru her relationship with her husband who works the oil fields and living in ALaska. SHe was refreshing up to the point that McCain put her into liberal wrapping, instead of unleashing her raw and over prepared. McCain wasn't what anyone wanted... reminds me of the asinine pick of Bob Dole a few years back. These rubes think that time in gives you some misguided priority as the "leader" small "L".

Then recently every time she turns around some loser is starting another unfounded "investigation" against her. That detracts from governing but also shows the fear in the opposition and the Republican party of Sarah Palin. Is her treatment that much different of Dr. Paul's? He's marginalized as a fringe "kook" by the same people. Remember the November 5th money bomb? They made a jackass attempt of connecting him to V or Guy Fawkes as a "terrorist" instead of looking at the positions those characters took against oppression. If she wasn't such a concern to the "system" they'd hardly pay attention, but she might turn out to be a cult of personality and take away votes from what the "system" wants to continue. Remember Romney is the "business" guy this time around and they GOP will use that to their advantage while Palin is possibly a different direction. Wasn't she part of a free state movement or something?

[2BFree]

Bman - listen to your clip and read angelatc's quote of Palin. I believe the clip you provided, while edited to misrepresent Palin's statements, proves angelatc's point.

[sparebulb]

Go away troll.

I never, ever, back away from confronting those who attempt to silence others.

[virgil47]

I never, ever, back away from confronting those who attempt to silence others. Stick that in your palin and rotate, Virgil.

You should not back away you should run away as fast as you can. Of course you are more than welcome to come back when you grow up. Also I have never, ever tried to silence others but I do expect others to be able to hold a rational and at least semi-educated discussion. When your Palin fixation is over come back and try to hold an intelligent discussion.

[sparebulb]

You should not back away you should run away as fast as you can. Of course you are more than welcome to come back when you grow up. Also I have never, ever tried to silence others but I do expect others to be able to hold a rational and at least semi-educated discussion. When your Palin fixation is over come back and try to hold an intelligent discussion.

You don't make the rules, Virgil. I'm not going anywhere.

[angelatc]

ummm no. That's what she said.

YouTube - Sarah Palin: Iraq is a task from God (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ypVSYoEKA)

Palin would be worse than GWB Jr.

What I posted is exactly, word for word, what you posted. At no time does she say Iraq is a task from God. She said to pray that it is a task from God.

[angelatc]

Bman - listen to your clip and read angelatc's quote of Palin. I believe the clip you provided, while edited to misrepresent Palin's statements, proves angelatc's point.

Thank you. It's pretty amazing to watch folks who saw the media do this to Ron Paul fall for it when they do it to somebody else.

I'm no longer a Palin supporter, haven't been for quite a while, but there's no reason to make stuff up about her.

[LibertyEagle]

To whom it may concern. Please stop the personal insults.

Thanks.

[Bman]

What I posted is exactly, word for word, what you posted. At no time does she say Iraq is a task from God. She said to pray that it is a task from God.

o'rly???? Then what task from god is she talking about. Inquiring minds want to know!

[down_south]

I like Sarah as well.

Of the four, Obama, McCain, Biden or Palin, I would take Sarah Palin any day.

Perfect candidate - not at all - but better than many if not most. I like her willingness to develop energy resources. I like that she's not a polished insider politician. I like that she hunts. I like her speaking out for disabled children. I like her "small government" and private sector approach to development.

Sparebulb's got some issues with Palin - too bad he didn't share any opinions worthy of attention.

I agree with you. I like Sarah; she is genuine. I think I could have a beer with her and discuss the life of the everyday average American and she would understand. Obama, McCain and Biden would never understand. She said Ron Paul is "cool" which I like.

[Bman]

I agree with you. I like Sarah; she is genuine. I think I could have a beer with her and discuss the life of the everyday average American and she would understand. Obama, McCain and Biden would never understand. She said Ron Paul is "cool" which I like.

All of which easily makes her capable of being the president.:rolleyes:

[down_south]

All of which easily makes her capable of being the president.:rolleyes:

LOL I don't know about that, but I like her better than Biden, Obama and McCain

[anaconda]

For 2012, Palin, Romney, and Huckabee are basically all in. [EDIT: Never mind, looks like this Palin move ISN'T consistent with her running for president]

And they all have about the same strength right now. In fact, one recent poll had them all tied for 2012.

I think only a R3VOLUTION candidate could challenge that trio, now that Sanford is out. Demint is conservative enough to stand out, but he doesn't really have the chops/charisma/drive.

I'd love to see Ron Paul run again and win some early primaries by scores of 30 - 20 - 20 - 20 as the three mainstream republicans split most of the mainstream/neocon republican vote.

Yes. Or a Ron Paul endorsed candidate. Perhaps Rand even. But I am pretty confident that Ron Paul will run. He's on a roll, seems revitalized, and heavy campaigning is less than 24 months away. I am still looking at the possibility that Sarah Palin may go rogue from the old GOP and try to co-opt the Revolution movement. It might be a brilliant strategy for her. What if we get to the primary campaigning and she is basically saying the exact same thing that Ron Paul is saying? The red state sheeple GOP voter base will suck up her talking points hook, line, and sinker (which could backfire and help RP, especially if she makes some campaign-killing gaffe or a scandal erupts). The other possibility is that such a metamorphosis for her might be sincere, or even consistent with her beliefs all along, despite the rhetoric requirements imposed upon her for the McSame campaign. She needs to join Michele Bachmann at the RP luncheons and get her talking points down.

Imagine the cover of Time in September 2011 with a split screen with Palin on one side and RP on the other. With the caption: "Has the GOP Finally Reinvented Itself?"

Food for thought..

[Bman]

Yes. Or a Ron Paul endorsed candidate. Perhaps Rand even. But I am pretty confident that Ron Paul will run. He's on a roll, seems revitalized, and heavy campaigning is less than 24 months away. I am still looking at the possibility that Sarah Palin may go rogue from the old GOP and try to co-opt the Revolution movement. It might be a brilliant strategy for her. What if we get to the primary campaigning and she is basically saying the exact same thing that Ron Paul is saying? The red state sheeple GOP voter base will suck up her talking points hook, line, and sinker (which could backfire and help RP, especially if she makes some campaign-killing gaffe or a scandal erupts). The other possibility is that such a metamorphosis for her might be sincere, or even consistent with her beliefs all along, despite the rhetoric requirements imposed upon her for the McSame campaign. Food for thought..

Hey if Sarah quit her job to help get Ron Paul elected to the Presidency in 2012 I'll take back anything I've ever said negatively about her.

[anaconda]

Hey if Sarah quit her job to help get Ron Paul elected to the Presidency in 2012 I'll take back anything I've ever said negatively about her.

I have not written her off. We'll just have to see what her platform is and how specific she is willing to get. The "Ron Paul Wing" of the GOP will not give their votes to anyone with a vague or insincere platform. The smartest move she could ever make politically would be to absorb the Ron Paul Revolution platform. People want her to be different.

[Bman]

I have not written her off. We'll just have to see what her platform is and how specific she is willing to get. The "Ron Paul Wing" of the GOP will not give their votes to anyone with a vague or insincere platform. The smartest move she could ever make politically would be to absorb the Ron Paul Revolution platform. People want her to be different.

I don't want her to run. I want her to support Ron Paul. Otherwise I'll have to call it like I see it which is NO WAY JOSE!

[anaconda]

I don't want her to run. I want her to support Ron Paul. Otherwise I'll have to call it like I see it which is NO WAY JOSE!

Were she to adopt the RP platform she would be able to spread the talking points big time and make lots of converts. It's hard for us to imagine, but a lot of people still don't know who Ron Paul is. And if they do, they don't really grasp the platform. Palin could take away whatever remaining "fringe" taboo still exists because the base loves her and has already embraced her. If she tells all the soccer moms that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the war on drugs are bankers' wars, they will all believe her and start owning those talking points.

[Bman]

Were she to adopt the RP platform she would be able to spread the talking points big time and make lots of converts. It's hard for us to imagine, but a lot of people still don't know who Ron Paul is. And if they do, they don't really grasp the platform. Palin could take away whatever remaining "fringe" taboo still exists.

But she can also do that campaigning for someone else. She's a believer in God. I'd tend to think that it's really what god intended for her to do. Too bad, too much personal pride. We'd be much better off if people knew their places. Hers is certainly not in the White House.

[anaconda]

But she can also do that campaigning for someone else. She's a believer in God. I'd tend to think that it's really what god intended for her to do. Too bad, too much personal pride. We'd be much better off if people knew their places. Hers is certainly not in the White House.

The President is generally just a mouthpiece for the policy makers. They make visits with dignitaries and get up and read speeches. She would be just fine. She just needs a kick ass cabinet to take care of business. Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Andrew Napolitano, Pat Buchanan, Catherine Austin Fitts, Michele Bachmann, etc. She is certainly as smart as Reagan or Bush II.

It would be a trip, however, if she announced her new job as Chairman of Campaign For Liberty...

But even if she runs it could help because she could step aside late in the primaries and endorse Ron Paul or some other freedom candidate and sell a boycott of a Romney/Huckabee/Jindal type. Or run third party and kill the GOP again. Perhaps with RP on such a ticket. Don't forget that she will be a pied piper for a lot of the GOP base.

I think a Paul/Palin libertarian ticket could pull a solid 30% in the general election. Perhaps 40% with the right set of circumstances. This means throwing the election to the House of Representatives and a lot of deal-cutting in platform commitments. Unlike RP in 2007-2008, she can say loudly throughout the campaign and Republican debates: "I'm not play'in party politics. I don't care which gosh darn party it takes ta get it done, but I'm take'in all of the freedom lov-in Americans all the way to the White House with me in 2012! Who's gonna join me?!!"... or words to that effect. Then she and the Revolution can monitor all kinds of polls for strategy, such as: how many Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, or Rand Paul supporters would cross party lines and vote for one of them in a general election. But she can't herd any supporters or play this type of strategic roll if she sits on the sidelines and won't campaign for herself.

[Bman]

The President is generally just a mouthpiece for the policy makers. They make visits with dignitaries and get up and read speeches. She would be just fine. She just needs a kick ass cabinet to take care of business. Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Andrew Napolitano, Pat Buchanan, Catherine Austin Fitts, etc. She is certainly as smart as Reagan or Bush II.

It would be a trip, however, if she announced her new job as Chairman of Campaign For Liberty...

IF she anounces that Ron Paul is her Secratary of State and Peter Schiff is her Secratary of the Treasury I may also have a change of heart.

However she has to go a long way. The last time we elected A govenor, who spoke english poorly, and thought they were on a mission from god it didn't turn out so well.

[anaconda]

IF she anounces that Ron Paul is her Secratary of State and Peter Schiff is her Secratary of the Treasury I may also have a change of heart.

However she has to go a long way. The last time we elected A govenor, who spoke english poorly, and thought they were on a mission from god it didn't turn out so well.

I think Ms. Palin could script her remarks for the public at least as successfully as this:

YouTube - George Bush Then and Now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck0Dle9V7FQ)

[LittleLightShining]

Were she to adopt the RP platform she would be able to spread the talking points big time and make lots of converts. It's hard for us to imagine, but a lot of people still don't know who Ron Paul is. And if they do, they don't really grasp the platform. Palin could take away whatever remaining "fringe" taboo still exists because the base loves her and has already embraced her. If she tells all the soccer moms that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the war on drugs are bankers' wars, they will all believe her and start owning those talking points.This will never happen. She can NOT talk about ending the war on drugs after all the criticism she's taken about her kids. She believes the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are divine missions.

[PaulaGem]

The President is generally just a mouthpiece for the policy makers. They make visits with dignitaries and get up and read speeches. She would be just fine. She just needs a kick ass cabinet to take care of business. Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Andrew Napolitano, Pat Buchanan, Catherine Austin Fitts, Michele Bachmann, etc. She is certainly as smart as Reagan or Bush II.

It would be a trip, however, if she announced her new job as Chairman of Campaign For Liberty...

But even if she runs it could help because she could step aside late in the primaries and endorse Ron Paul or some other freedom candidate and sell a boycott of a Romney/Huckabee/Jindal type. Or run third party and kill the GOP again. Perhaps with RP on such a ticket. Don't forget that she will be a pied piper for a lot of the GOP base.

I think a Paul/Palin libertarian ticket could pull a solid 30% in the general election. Perhaps 40% with the right set of circumstances. This means throwing the election to the House of Representatives and a lot of deal-cutting in platform commitments. Unlike RP in 2007-2008, she can say loudly throughout the campaign and Republican debates: "I'm not play'in party politics. I don't care which gosh darn party it takes ta get it done, but I'm take'in all of the freedom lov-in Americans all the way to the White House with me in 2012! Who's gonna join me?!!"... or words to that effect. Then she and the Revolution can monitor all kinds of polls for strategy, such as: how many Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, or Rand Paul supporters would cross party lines and vote for one of them in a general election. But she can't herd any supporters or play this type of strategic roll if she sits on the sidelines and won't campaign for herself.

Get real - Palin is bought and paid for by THEM - otherwise she wouldn't have been put into the V.P. slot to sabotage the election by her very presence. They wanted Obama in and Palin was a tool.

Run Palin, you'll toss the women's vote, she is an embarrassment to the thinking woman.


http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1846443,00.html?iid=digg_share

[2BFree]

"Get real - Palin is bought and paid for by THEM"

maybe...but your contention that she was put on the ticket (by THEM) to sabotage MaCain *ASSUMES* that McCain could/would have won without her. Do you actually believe McCain would have won except for Palin? McCain was well on his way to losing the election long before Palin's name was ever mentioned; Palin actually helped his numbers - so your logic fails.

So what you wrote PaulaGem sounds nice. It has the right mix of "bought and paid", "THEM", "sabotage" and "tool"; too bad its a perfect example of the sort of disinformation that was and is still being used against Ron Paul.

Oh well, such is the system, isn't it.

[2BFree]

One favor PaulaGem - Could you point out a candidate that can get the women's vote?

While any gender candidate will do, I would be especially interested in any female candidates that *you think* would appeal to the "thinking woman".

[PaulaGem]

One favor PaulaGem - Could you point out a candidate that can get the women's vote?

While any gender candidate will do, I would be especially interested in any female candidates that *you think* would appeal to the "thinking woman".

I'm not familiar enough with the field to do that. But it isn't someone who exemplfies some of the worst stereotypes about women.

Did the have to fear a win to sabotage the ticket? Perhaps the idea was to strengthen the "mandate" for Obama.

[max]

women's suffrage was a big mistake...

it was a major move towards socialism.

Only land owning, job holding men over 30 should be allowed to vote. A [poll tax needs to be brought back and an IQ qualifier along with a test on American civics should also be reinstated.

[anaconda]

Get real - Palin is bought and paid for by THEM - otherwise she wouldn't have been put into the V.P. slot to sabotage the election by her very presence. They wanted Obama in and Palin was a tool.

Run Palin, you'll toss the women's vote, she is an embarrassment to the thinking woman.


http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1846443,00.html?iid=digg_share

There's a whole lot of non-thinking GOP women voters who would vote for Palin. Plus a lot of thinking women that would vote for the Revolution Platform. My whole hypothetical premise in this thread is based upon the wild and fantastical scenario that she goes rogue on the GOP with a libertarian platform similar to RP's.

You may be right about the notion that she was put on the ticket to sabotage the GOP. But I have trouble believing this because a much better tactic would be to simply pick a VP that they had some dirty secret on and then out them late in the general election campaign cycle. McCain was never likely to win anyway. McCain's win in New Hampshire was probably rigged, I am sorry to say. I think Ron Paul was getting dangerous and they went with McCain since he had won there in 2000 and it would appear believable. But this is speculation on my part.
This short video is surreal:

YouTube - NH Voter/Election Fraud? Secure Ballots? Clean Elections? P1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJfj9ySYg0Q)

[anaconda]

"Get real - Palin is bought and paid for by THEM"

maybe...but your contention that she was put on the ticket (by THEM) to sabotage MaCain *ASSUMES* that McCain could/would have won without her. Do you actually believe McCain would have won except for Palin? McCain was well on his way to losing the election long before Palin's name was ever mentioned; Palin actually helped his numbers - so your logic fails.

So what you wrote PaulaGem sounds nice. It has the right mix of "bought and paid", "THEM", "sabotage" and "tool"; too bad its a perfect example of the sort of disinformation that was and is still being used against Ron Paul.

Oh well, such is the system, isn't it.

Bingo. Well said. Air tight.

[anaconda]

But it isn't someone who exemplfies some of the worst stereotypes about women.


Hmmm..let's see...the Chief Executive of a U.S. state and the mother of several children including one with special needs, a college graduate, a participant in a functional and complete nuclear family, a lover of the outdoors, and someone who does not need a rich and powerful man to "keep" her. I'm having some trouble identifying the tragic "stereotypes" that you are referring to...Perhaps you can enlighten me..

[PaulaGem]

For starters - a beauty queen who can't name one newspaper that she reads regularly.

[Bman]

a college graduate

This is what I think of Sarah Palins college education.

YouTube - Incredible laugh by Tom Hanks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca9GuwuOVZc)

[kathy88]

Yeah, I was wondering why all the Palin hate. Back in 2007, here on the ron paul forums, there was a lot of discussion about who, if anyone, should be RP's vice presidential nominee. Palin was mentioned more than anyone (Sanford was also mentioned). There was a reason that Palin was so well liked here in 07, and that was primarily her record. McCain was disliked, and I guess Palin was automatically disliked because of McCain. But we liked her in 2007 for a good reason.



Til she opened her mouth on national television... then it was pretty much over for me....

[tonesforjonesbones]

Paulagem...you remind me of a huffington poster. are you sure you are a fan of Ron Paul? I am a woman and I like Sarah Palin...conservative women like her. So do the men. She can probably beat ANY GOP man they put forth in 2012...that is why the GOP is trying to tank her..they fear her more than the democraps. tones

[Bman]

Paulagem...you remind me of a huffington poster. are you sure you are a fan of Ron Paul? I am a woman and I like Sarah Palin...conservative women like her. So do the men. She can probably beat ANY GOP man they put forth in 2012...that is why the GOP is trying to tank her..they fear her more than the democraps. tones

Who in the GOP is trying to tank Sarah?

Plus as a fan of Ron Paul, I absolutely loathe Sarah Palin.

[anaconda]

Why would I buy one of those shirts?

I'm guessing it's sophisticated satire since they are on top of a pig rather than an elephant.

[max]

Sarah Palin was a pathetic joke...one part narcissist...one part white trash.

The totally uneducated PTA mom, Israel worshipping, ultra ambitious Jesus rapturist almost made it to "a heartbeat away" from the Presidency...

shows what a fucked - up country we are that total nobodies like Obama and sarah can be taken seriously.

[anaconda]

For starters - a beauty queen who can't name one newspaper that she reads regularly.

OK. You're right. Let's forget about that U.S. state Chief Executive-independent from being kept by a man-mother of five-college graduate-outdoors enthusiast-family main bread winner stuff. All bad cheesy degrading stereotypes to be sure.

So that leaves us with: on top of her plethora of remarkable achievements she managed at one point to work in a few hours to win a beauty contest when she was young. So did Vanessa Williams. Gloria Steinem was in a beauty contest and later was a Playboy Bunny. I don't get your point.

I wonder why Katie Couric never asked Barky what he reads to keep up? Or Hillary? How would Ron Paul have answered that question? It's kind of a stupid question. Like: what does Benanke read to keep informed? Probably Fed data and data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and an occasional look at a Wall St. Journal.

[PaulaGem]

YouTube - Sarah Palin CBS Interview (Katie Couric) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQwAFobQxQ)

[parocks]

Til she opened her mouth on national television... then it was pretty much over for me....

I guess. Her first speeches were very well received by most. But, yeah, she does have an accent which I guess can bug people.

[anaconda]

YouTube - Gov. Sarah Palin talks pay raise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxWmrn5doIE&feature=PlayList&p=E285C9D1B55A6A6C&index=13)

[anaconda]

YouTube - Gov. Sarah Palin Makes TransCanada License Official (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNTzCtaEdEQ&feature=PlayList&p=E285C9D1B55A6A6C&index=10)

[PaulaGem]

So she did the job her handlers got her elected for, ran interference in the national campaign, and now they tell her to quit before she causes any serious damage.

This is the lady whose foreign policy experience was titular head of the national guard and being next door to Russia.

[anaconda]

So she did the job her handlers got her elected for, ran interference in the national campaign, and now they tell her to quit before she causes any serious damage.

This is the lady whose foreign policy experience was titular head of the national guard and being next door to Russia.

You don't need to be an intellectual elitist to bring troops home, float gold and silver, write an executive order to unenforce the patriot act, abolish the Federal Reserve and the income tax, and veto unbalanced budgets. The country would be a lot better off with a bunch of hockey moms in elected office.

[2BFree]

"So she did the job her handlers got her elected for, ran interference in the national campaign, and now they tell her to quit before she causes any serious damage."

PaulaGem, sorry, maybe its just me...

Who are her handlers and what job did they get her elected for? Since she's only been elected governor of Alaska, I assume you mean some group of handlers got her elected Governor and she did the job, but that doesn't line up with "running interference in the national campaign" - she did campaign - what do you mean "running interference". Who has told her to quit and what damage is she about to cause?

I'm certain this makes sense to you, but as written, I can't make sense of it. Disjointed, vague, a bit wacko - all in all a kind of a *Katic Couric* comment I guess.

Any comment on the other two videos? Seems to me she's pretty sharp on subjects she up on. I would say she deports herself with an executive demeanour and appears quite competent.

There's a lot of issues on which I suspect I wouldn't agree with Palin, but on balance I think shes a smart woman with some guts and I don't think she's in anyone's pocket.

[Bman]

You don't need to be an intellectual elitist to bring troops home, float gold and silver, write an executive order to unenforce the patriot act, abolish the Federal Reserve and the income tax, and veto unbalanced budgets. The country would be a lot better off with a bunch of hockey moms in elected office.

I'd have to say the Vegas odds on Sarah Palin accomplishing anything you just said to be 12,000,000,000,000 to 1.

Sorry Ana. Palin is a neo-con.

http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_Palin.htm

[anaconda]

Palin is a neo-con.

Don't think so. Going along for the ride with the McSame campaign is not sufficient proof for me. They took her on because she was a woman and outside the beltway and needed some votes.

Maybe she just paid a price for the national exposure, so that she could turn it to good at some point. I think the jury is out on her. Why don't we just wait and see where she ends up in 12 to 18 months?

[nbhadja]

Don't think so. Going along for the ride with the McSame campaign is not sufficient proof for me. They took her on because she was a woman and outside the beltway and needed some votes.

Maybe she just paid a price for the national exposure, so that she could turn it to good at some point. I think the jury is out on her. Why don't we just wait and see where she ends up in 12 to 18 months?

She is a big government whore that pretends to be for limited government, just like Bush, Romney, McCain etc.


http://www.slate.com/id/2199357/

"The woman who made this complaint about big government taking your money is the governor of Alaska. Please take a moment to look at this U.S. Census chart showing federal-government expenditures, per capita, in the 50 states. You will observe that Alaska receives about $14,000 per citizen from the federal government. That's more than any other state, and a good $4,000 more than every other state except Virginia, Maryland, New Mexico, and North Dakota. The chart is from the Census Bureau's Consolidated Federal Funds Report for Fiscal Year 2005. I skipped over the 2006 report, the most recent one available, because Hurricane Katrina put Louisiana and Mississippi ahead of Alaska that year. But that's an anomaly. Alaska held the per-capita record for sucking on the federal teat in 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, and 2000. According to the nonprofit Tax Foundation, Alaska gets back $1.84 for every dollar it pays into the U.S. Treasury—even though Alaska enjoys a higher per-capita income than 34 of the 50 states. This is a state that preaches right-wing libertarianism while it practices middle-class socialism.

Palin has not bucked this venerable tradition. It's been widely reported that even though Palin came out against the federally funded, $223 million "bridge to nowhere," a wasteful Alaska earmark (and one she'd supported before it created an uproar in Congress), Alaska ended up receiving the same amount of federal money as transportation funds to be spent at the state's own discretion. When Palin was mayor of Wasilla, she hired the former chief of staff to Sen. Ted Stevens, the recently indicted dean of the Alaska congressional delegation, to lobby for the town (pop. 6,700)—which, as a result, wound up receiving nearly $27 million in federal earmarks over four years. As governor, Palin just this past February sent Stevens a memo outlining $200 million in new funding requests. Granted, Palin enjoys inexplicably warm relations with the secessionist Alaska Independence Party, whose founder's anti-Americanism, Rosa Brooks points out in the Los Angeles Times, puts Rev. Jeremiah Wright in the shade. ("The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," he told an interviewer in 1991—a year when Republicans controlled the White House and U.S. troops went into battle to free Kuwait from Iraqi occupation.) But there's little real danger that Alaska would ever choose to secede from the Lower 48. Independence would cost it too much in lost federal revenue."

[Bman]

Don't think so. Going along for the ride with the McSame campaign is not sufficient proof for me. They took her on because she was a woman and outside the beltway and needed some votes.

Maybe she just paid a price for the national exposure, so that she could turn it to good at some point. I think the jury is out on her. Why don't we just wait and see where she ends up in 12 to 18 months?

Ummmm???? Did you even look at the link?

[PaulaGem]

"So she did the job her handlers got her elected for, ran interference in the national campaign, and now they tell her to quit before she causes any serious damage."

PaulaGem, sorry, maybe its just me....

I was referring to the oil & gas interests and the "achievement" just prior to that post, sorry.

[anaconda]

Ummmm???? Did you even look at the link?

I think those are McSame campaign-assigned policy positions.

[2BFree]

Nbhadja -

I'm not at all surprised that the federal government spends more per capita in Alaska than any other state as Alaska has the lowest population density by far of any of the states - about 1/5th that of the next in line.

So if Mr. Noah had analysed government expenditure per square mile then by Mr. Noah's logic, Alaska is the most frugal state in the Union...go figure.

You actually took slate at face value?

[nbhadja]

Nbhadja -

I'm not at all surprised that the federal government spends more per capita in Alaska than any other state as Alaska has the lowest population density by far of any of the states - about 1/5th that of the next in line.

So if Mr. Noah had analysed government expenditure per square mile then by Mr. Noah's logic, Alaska is the most frugal state in the Union...go figure.

You actually took slate at face value?

Supporting a 223 million dollar bridge is liberal. BEGGING for and taking 27 million dollars in federal money for a small town is liberal.

Palin is liberal. All of the evidence shows that as Mayor and Governor she was a liberal.

Do you actually think McCain, a liberal, would have a libertarian as his VP pick?? Come on, there is no chance in hell for that.

They chose Palin to try and fool libertarians like Ron Paul supporters. Sadly it worked for a month or so.

[nbhadja]

She was begging for money from the stimulus bills as well.

"Alaska and other states need to be treated fairly,” Governor Palin said. “Much of the stimulus plan we've seen focuses on spending for government programs that would be a burden on states to continue funding, and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy. Working with our D.C. staff, I took advantage of the opportunity to speak with Democrats and Republicans to voice my concerns. I appreciate their time and assistance in paying attention to our state."

"and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy"

So she wants the government to create jobs and wants a printing press to save an economy?? cough...SOCIALIST...cough

[2BFree]

Nbhadja - Take quotes out of context much?

"She was begging for money from the stimulus bills as well." really where?

I think SC proves you can't refuse a federal stimulus check, so if your getting one, wouldn't you try to protect the interests of your state?
Here's what you misquoted Nbhadja - http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1618&type=1 - it seems ok to me when read in context.


Governor Expresses Concerns on Economic Stimulus While in D.C.

February 1, 2009, Juneau, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin this weekend met with business, economic and political leaders in the nation’s capital to discuss problems she sees for Alaska with the pending economic stimulus package in Congress.

"Alaska and other states need to be treated fairly,” Governor Palin said. “Much of the stimulus plan we've seen focuses on spending for government programs that would be a burden on states to continue funding, and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy. Working with our D.C. staff, I took advantage of the opportunity to speak with Democrats and Republicans to voice my concerns. I appreciate their time and assistance in paying attention to our state."

Governor Palin discussed troubling elements in the stimulus package including provisions that punish Alaska for forward-funding education, the mass transit funding formula that will limit Alaska opportunities but will pour money into other states, and the "shovel-ready" criteria for projects that northern climates might not be able to accommodate consistently due to the shortened construction season.

The governor continues to express concerns first identified in a Jan. 7 letter to the Alaska congressional delegation about the overall level of spending and the hugely increased deficit our nation is growing. Under the legislation, the U.S. would continue sending money to OPEC nations even as it continues to borrow and miss opportunities to develop domestic supplies of energy.

"Worst of all, the stimulus package rewards states for not planning when it comes to prioritizing for things like education, as Alaska has planned ahead by forward-funding 21 percent of our General Fund dollars for this very important priority,” said Palin. “It appears only those states that did not plan ahead with education will benefit. States like Alaska should not be punished for being responsible; yet that's what the plan means for Alaska right now.”

The governor has asked the nation’s leaders to look at these issues to ensure fairness in the stimulus package and that the package does not harm the long-term fiscal health of the nation. Contrary to some news reports, she looks forward to continuing to work with Alaska’s congressional delegation to accomplish the state’s goals.

http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1618&type=1

[2BFree]

I am amazed that so many here employ exactly the same tactics that have been used against Ron Paul.

We should win or lose on the strengths of our ideas not on the shade of our words.

[nbhadja]

Nbhadja - Take quotes out of context much?

"She was begging for money from the stimulus bills as well." really where?

I think SC proves you can't refuse a federal stimulus check, so if your getting one, wouldn't you try to protect the interests of your state?
Here's what you misquoted Nbhadja - http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1618&type=1 - it seems ok to me when read in context.


Governor Expresses Concerns on Economic Stimulus While in D.C.

February 1, 2009, Juneau, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin this weekend met with business, economic and political leaders in the nation’s capital to discuss problems she sees for Alaska with the pending economic stimulus package in Congress.

"Alaska and other states need to be treated fairly,” Governor Palin said. “Much of the stimulus plan we've seen focuses on spending for government programs that would be a burden on states to continue funding, and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy. Working with our D.C. staff, I took advantage of the opportunity to speak with Democrats and Republicans to voice my concerns. I appreciate their time and assistance in paying attention to our state."

Governor Palin discussed troubling elements in the stimulus package including provisions that punish Alaska for forward-funding education, the mass transit funding formula that will limit Alaska opportunities but will pour money into other states, and the "shovel-ready" criteria for projects that northern climates might not be able to accommodate consistently due to the shortened construction season.

The governor continues to express concerns first identified in a Jan. 7 letter to the Alaska congressional delegation about the overall level of spending and the hugely increased deficit our nation is growing. Under the legislation, the U.S. would continue sending money to OPEC nations even as it continues to borrow and miss opportunities to develop domestic supplies of energy.

"Worst of all, the stimulus package rewards states for not planning when it comes to prioritizing for things like education, as Alaska has planned ahead by forward-funding 21 percent of our General Fund dollars for this very important priority,” said Palin. “It appears only those states that did not plan ahead with education will benefit. States like Alaska should not be punished for being responsible; yet that's what the plan means for Alaska right now.”

The governor has asked the nation’s leaders to look at these issues to ensure fairness in the stimulus package and that the package does not harm the long-term fiscal health of the nation. Contrary to some news reports, she looks forward to continuing to work with Alaska’s congressional delegation to accomplish the state’s goals.

http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1618&type=1

1. "and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy"

Her saying that proves she is a Keynesian neocon. The government can NEVER create jobs. Her saying that goes against everything our movement stands for.

2. She would not be opposed to a war with Russia.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/12/MNSA12SBUQ.DTL

3. You can reject the federal stimulus money if you choose to do so.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/29/sarah-palin-to-accept-mos_n_192802.html

She accepted majority of it.

4. Her record as governor and mayor clearly indicate that she supports big government.

5. Palin said the iraqi war was "gods will"
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-iraq-war-gods-plan/


And people attacked Ron Paul using stupid ideas they knew nothing about.

I am attacking Palin with facts and by what she says she supports (war with iraq, war with russia).

To defend Palin as a liberty lover while all the evidence indicates that she is a war hungry neocon is crazy.

[2BFree]

"I am attacking Palin with facts and by what she says she supports (war with iraq, war with russia)."

No Nbhada - you are not. You are misrepresenting, and misquoting - you are doing exactly what others did to Ron Paul - and *that* is against everything our movement stands for.

Did you even read your own links? Your representations are out of context and are laughable. You clain Palin said the Iraqi war was "gods will" - care to bet on it?

[emazur]

"I am attacking Palin with facts and by what she says she supports (war with iraq, war with russia)."

No Nbhada - you are not. You are misrepresenting, and misquoting - you are doing exactly what others did to Ron Paul - and *that* is against everything our movement stands for.

Did you even read your own links? Your representations are out of context and are laughable. You clain Palin said the Iraqi war was "gods will" - care to bet on it?

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

How is it the he was taking that out of context? I watched the video and yes she did say it just after talking about how her son was going to Iraq.

Are you also saying Bush didn't think that launching the wars against Afghan and Iraq was God's will?
http://www.counterpunch.org/hamilton05222009.html

[2BFree]

emazur,

Where in your quote of Palin does she say "the iraqi war was gods will"? Thats not what she's said at all.

You know it and nbhadja knows it.

[PaulaGem]

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

How is it the he was taking that out of context? I watched the video and yes she did say it just after talking about how her son was going to Iraq.

Are you also saying Bush didn't think that launching the wars against Afghan and Iraq was God's will?
http://www.counterpunch.org/hamilton05222009.html

It's sort of double speak - those that want to hear that it's "God's will" will interpret it that way. "Pray.... that our leaders.... are sending out on a task that is from God.

Now, if we weren't sure that it's a task from God, what justification do we have? None, of course.

One way of interpreting what she is saying saying is "We've done it, we're committed, now we need to pray that it was the right thing and that God will come up with a plan now that we're in there."

Either way - it's a "God on our side" argument.

Either way - it's ambiguous double speak and as clear as mud. This is her usual style.

[fgd]

If someone supports sound money, ending the Fed, ending foreign wars and bringing troops home, ALL Constitutional rights including the 2nd, and ending the income tax, I'll vote for them even if they're a raving fundie uneducated grifter loon.

Words and positions matter, not people. The Founding Fathers to a man could not have won an election today. They were drunks, philanderers, fornicators, and had terrible credit problems. They were mostly ugly, fat men with terrible teeth and hygiene. They engaged in piracy, guerrilla warfare, and high treason.

Yet the power of their words and ideas made us the greatest nation on earth. "Image management politics" is how you get and perpetuate monarchies.

Words, ideas, and positions matter. People do not.

If Palin changes her tune away from that foisted on her by the McSame brigade, I'll vote for her. If she keeps the neocon crap, I won't. Simple.

[nbhadja]

"I am attacking Palin with facts and by what she says she supports (war with iraq, war with russia)."

No Nbhada - you are not. You are misrepresenting, and misquoting - you are doing exactly what others did to Ron Paul - and *that* is against everything our movement stands for.

Did you even read your own links? Your representations are out of context and are laughable. You clain Palin said the Iraqi war was "gods will" - care to bet on it?

You are blindly defending war hungry Palin.

She said it HERSELF multiple times that she would not be opposed to a war with Russia and that she supports the Iraqi war.

What about that don't you understand????? It's a really easy concept to understand.

Your defense over this pro war big government neocon is laughable.


And can you read??

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

[slacker921]

Hey if Sarah quit her job to help get Ron Paul elected to the Presidency in 2012 I'll take back anything I've ever said negatively about her.

All that truth you said about her... you won't be taking it back.

[Flash]

Sarah Palin is simply annoying. Didn't anyone watch the debate with her & Joe Biden? Her fake soccor mom attitude will always be considered a joke.
Gosh golly darnit.

And yeah, Sarah Palin can handle anything except for an interview with Katie Couric.

[anaconda]

If someone supports sound money, ending the Fed, ending foreign wars and bringing troops home, ALL Constitutional rights including the 2nd, and ending the income tax, I'll vote for them even if they're a raving fundie uneducated grifter loon.

Words and positions matter, not people. The Founding Fathers to a man could not have won an election today. They were drunks, philanderers, fornicators, and had terrible credit problems. They were mostly ugly, fat men with terrible teeth and hygiene. They engaged in piracy, guerrilla warfare, and high treason.

Yet the power of their words and ideas made us the greatest nation on earth. "Image management politics" is how you get and perpetuate monarchies.

Words, ideas, and positions matter. People do not.

If Palin changes her tune away from that foisted on her by the McSame brigade, I'll vote for her. If she keeps the neocon crap, I won't. Simple.

I feel the same way.

[sparebulb]

I'm waiting for the inevitable suggestion of a Palin/Beck ticket. That would be the ultimate libertarian ticket, in a retarded hell.

The speculative wishes of an unshackled Palin becoming the new face of a classical libertarian/constitutional movement would be like the wishes of a child hoping that the skies would rain gumdrops and ice cream. Ain't gonna happen.

[anaconda]

I still think the U.S. would be a lot better place if we had 535 hockey moms in the House and Senate and one in the white house.

[sparebulb]

I still think the U.S. would be a lot better place if we had 535 hockey moms in the House and Senate and one in the white house.

Gynocracy? Isn't the world confused enough already?