View Full Version : Cap and Tr8tors Can Change Vote by July 2 Deadline!

06-29-2009, 10:25 AM
Sounds like we can still chew out the RINO's to see if they can be convinced to change their vote. Didn't pass by only 1 vote?


8 Republicans who voted for Cap and Trade

The following republicans voted FOR the largest tax bill ever passed by a session of Congress.

Any good work they have done has been for naught. Unless they change their votes by the deadline, Wed, July 2nd, they will for ever be a member of the Cap and Tr8tors.

HR 2454 RECORDED VOTE 26-Jun-2009 7:17 PM
BILL TITLE: American Clean Energy and Security Act

#capandtr8tors is the Twitter tag to use on this topic.


1) Click on their link.
2) Select the ‘Contact’ tab.
Contact their local office as they are not in DC and home on vacation.

Mary Bono Mack R (CA)
Mike Castle R (DW)
Mark Steven Eirk R (IL)
Leonard Lance R (NJ)
Frank LoBiondo R (NJ)
John McHugh R (NY)
Dave Reichert R (WA)
Chris Smith R (NJ)


A motion to reconsider is a parliamentary practice that gives the House (or Senate) one opportunity to review its action on a motion, amendment, or measure.

Motions to reconsider are routinely laid on the table — or killed. If a motion to reconsider is adopted, it requires a vote be held again on whatever the House has voted to reconsider. Only Members who voted on the winning side may move to reconsider a vote. Members have been known to change their votes at the last minute in order to be eligible to offer the motion.

If the original vote on a question is close, enough members might be persuaded to change their position, or absent members could come to the floor, vote to reconsider, then reverse the outcome of the original vote.

Typically, however, after announcing the result of a vote, the Speaker states that, “without objection, a motion to reconsider is laid on the table.” This uses up the one opportunity to reconsider, and makes the result of the vote final.


A motion to lay on the table a bill, resolution, amendment, point of order, appeal or another motion disposes of the question immediately and finally and adversely — it kills it without a direct vote on the substance of the question. A motion to table is not debatable and is adopted by unanimous consent — without objection — or by majority vote. It is a “highly privileged motion” — that is, in the order in which motions are given priority in the House, only a motion to adjourn has higher precedence than a motion to table a measure.

06-29-2009, 10:31 AM
I believe it passed by 7 votes. I also believe there were a couple of Dem "No votes" that were waiting in the wings if their vote was needed.

This is just like the Amnesty they tried ramming thru - there is no question that the majority of Americans are against this, but they try to sneak things thru before the public can digest what is happening.

06-29-2009, 10:36 AM
Good luck getting the NJ "republicans" to switch. NJ is one of only 2 states that has not even officially adopted the national party platform. So in reality they are RINOs through and through.

06-29-2009, 10:39 AM
So how do the democrat voters feel about this? I don't know where their forums are. Are they aware of how their energy bills are about to get rocked by this and do they care?

06-29-2009, 11:48 AM
There has to be a couple of Democrats that are upset with the voting but I wouldn't put it past the general public with what the bill is really about.

Even if votes can't change, an email/phone call is still in order.

06-29-2009, 01:28 PM
We should be looking at the Dems that voted against this and figure out why they came to our side...