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FrankRep
06-23-2009, 11:06 AM
Pep Rallies and Public Schools: How the State Programs Us for War (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/bryan10.html)


J. L. Bryan | LewRockwell.com (http://www.lewrockwell.com/)
June 23, 2009


Anyone who attended those giant child-processing centers the state insists on calling "schools" will recognize the scene:

You walk into the million-dollar cinderblock gymnasium, immediately dwarfed by the size and sound of the crowd. The school's thousands of students have been herded together to cheer the glory that is "their" team as it prepares for "the big game." Teachers and students dress in school colors, wave the school pennant, and join in the school fight song.

All this is a Very Big Deal, and woe unto he who questions any of it. There may be a speech from the principal, or from that annoying kid who successfully rode a wave of apathy into the student council presidency. The cheerleaders dance and praise the team. The team members themselves run out to thunderous applause, the crowd cheering for whatever it is they presumably accomplish for the school community – and never mind that the biggest jerks in the school are invariably found within their ranks.

Here and there you may notice small, dark clumps of the disaffected, those dour punk/goth/whatever kids who don't seem impressed by any of this. They will be treated harshly by teachers for being negative, antisocial, or – heaven forbid! – lacking in proper "school spirit." There is something wrong with them, most would agree, or they just want attention. And these malcontents are all freshmen or sophomores. Upperclassmen of their ilk have long since learned that such rallies are the perfect time to sneak behind the school for a cigarette or a few bong rips.

Of special significance is the rally against the major rival school down the road, the archenemy who must be denounced, ridiculed, and defeated. No one can tell you why that particular school is the big rival. "Because they're the Broncos (or whatever the rival mascot might be)" is a typical, circular answer. Some don't even bother moving in a circle: "They just are," such people say, probably convinced, after a lifetime of learning to accept such answers from teachers, that this would appropriately resolve the question.

In my experience, one revealing answer came from my high school Latin teacher: "You must support the home team. Support the home team. Support the home team." (Also, teaching Latin by rote had apparently programmed her to repeat all statements three times. Not kidding.) She didn't follow up with any explanation of the virtues and benefits to accrue from home-team-supporting behavior. It was just crazy to think that, although the state forced us into this ridiculous institution, with its ridiculous rules and overlords, we would ever consider the school to be anything but our "home." We were certainly intended to identify it as such. The football team was there to defend our honor (against what, nobody knows).

Having read some Henry David Thoreau (http://www.amazon.com/Henry-David-Thoreau-Collected-Library/dp/1883011957/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245279398&sr=1-3) and Thomas Jefferson (http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Jefferson-Writings-Autobiography-Addresses/dp/094045016X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245279506&sr=1-2), I concluded that the entire culture and organization of public schools must be a mistake. There were so many authoritarian attributes, I thought, they weren't teaching kids to be responsible citizens of a republic, but subjects of a police state. Serious reforms were clearly needed. (Years later, having studied John Taylor Gatto (http://www.amazon.com/Weapons-Mass-Instruction-Schoolteachers-Compulsory/dp/0865716315/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245279555&sr=1-1) and Austrian economics (http://www.mises.org/store/), I realized that a) the state raises kids this way deliberately, not by mistake, and b) a free market in education would quickly find and disseminate the best methods for teaching children.)

The whole weird culture of government school still puzzled me when I graduated in 1996. A little more than five years later, starting on 9/11/2001, I began to discover what all the weird ritualism and pressure to conform had really accomplished for the state.

Flags went up everywhere – you had flag bumper stickers, flag lapel pins, flag t-shirts, flags draping homes and buildings, flag-colored bunting. Across the South, people even traded their defiant Confederate flags for Old Glory – swapping out their scrimmage jerseys for the team colors. The Pledge of Allegiance took on a new, more sacred quality, as did the drinking game (http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Drinking-song) that is our national anthem (from the article: "If you could sing a stanza (http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Stanza) of the notoriously difficult melody and stay on key, you were sober enough for another round").

President Bush (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secrets-Dynasty-Powerful-Influence/dp/1596915579/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245279758&sr=1-1), until then known for his questionable election, the Enron scandal, and taking long vacations, suddenly became the great leader, warrior, and protector. (Yes, the same guy who completely didn't protect anyone from the attacks was now going to keep us safe – but let's not digress into reason). We had Britney Spears and Ann Coulter to cheerlead the Prez. Men and women in any sort of government-issued uniform became hallowed saints. Our wise and noble leaders, all in their matching lapel pins, sat down at their desks and led the charge to war – war in Afghanistan, war in Iraq, and a hoped-for war in Iran, if they could squeeze it in.

Sure, here and there were clumps of the disaffected, those left-wingers and libertarians who didn't support the Patriot Act, the Iraq invasion, or the general sense that our politicians and thinktankers would kill anyone who stood between them and the oil supplies of the Middle East and Central Asia. But these were not serious people, not people who had TV talk shows and columns in the New York Times. Not people who held high office. Thanks to public education, we all knew that these were just that predictable handful of fringe weirdos, who are probably even now sneaking out back for a cigarette or a few bongs rips. The serious, sober-minded folks were out buying little flags to pin on themselves.

Question the war in those days, and many people would just give you a puzzled look, as if asking why they hated the Broncos. "Because they're our enemies!" According to whom? Had Iraq attacked us? "What are you, on their side? You're either with us or against us!" And the countless innocents who would die from the invasion? Probably fans of the other team, the jerks.

Even if you didn't support the war, you should of course "Support the Troops," preferably with a yellow magnet on your car (don't use a sticker, it could scuff the paint). Naturally, they're fighting for us, and it's important to support the home team, don't you know, even if the game itself seems pointless to you. And support them only by keeping them at war, no matter what, for years and years and years, because quitters don't win the championship ring. We need to bring home the gold. For our country, our honor, etc.

And when it comes to politics, the same logic applies. You can choose "your" team – there are two big ones – and then cheer for them, wear their t-shirts, wish harm upon the opposing team, and feel as if something's been accomplished when someone from your team wins a major office. Between the shouting matches at bars and the flaming blog posts, you'll barely notice how truly powerless you are.

Gatto's work reveals many ways government schools are designed to break human beings into mindless, obedient machines. There's the common teacher tactic of insulting and humiliating the kid who acts differently, or asks too many questions. There's the charming custom of begging for permission to carry out basic bodily functions, which many a teacher gleefully denies – and you must have that hall pass so you can show your papers to the hall monitors, proving you have a right to pee.

Possibly most effective is the practice of age-ranked classes. Every child naturally looks to older children and adults as role models. The school denies us this, forcing kids to look to other kids their own age as role models. Everybody strives to be like everybody else, the source of the common teenage lament that "Everybody else dresses this way!" or "Everybody else is going to the party!" After more than a decade of this, we become adults desperate to prove to everyone else that we are just like everyone else. Much character development is also lost in the other direction – older kids never learn the responsibility of looking out for younger kids, the understanding of subject matter that comes from helping to tutor them, or the fulfillment that comes from helping someone smaller and weaker than yourself.

All of this is useful for training obedient subjects who constantly adjust themselves to whatever they are told. When it comes to the martial virtues, however, there's nothing quite like a properly managed team-sports program. Kids can learn loyalty, teamwork, obedience, aggressiveness, and an animosity toward the "enemy" that can be snapped on at will. Some of these may sound virtuous by themselves – but what about the German soldier who remains steadfastly loyal to Hitler, or engages in teamwork by helping operate a concentration camp? Those soldiers were several generations into the Prussian school system (http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/7c.htm) on which the American system is based.

Clearly, the individual needs an inner core of principles that he values more highly than the approval of the team, the coaches, and the rest of the school community. Such fierce individualism is at the heart of what it means to be American, and what it means to be human, and it is something government schools will never teach.


SOURCE:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/bryan10.html

Original_Intent
06-23-2009, 11:26 AM
Yawp!

paulitics
06-23-2009, 11:41 AM
That was a great read. Agree 100%.

FrankRep
06-23-2009, 11:46 AM
I never liked pep rallies anyway.

moostraks
06-23-2009, 11:50 AM
pretty good read...fairly accurate,imo.

Theocrat
06-23-2009, 11:52 AM
Blaming pep rallies as a means of indoctrinating people for war is quite a stretch, in my opinion.

FrankRep
06-23-2009, 11:55 AM
Blaming pep rallies as a means of indoctrinating people for war is quite a stretch, in my opinion.
It's just one of many methods of indoctrination. Board games like Chess also teach war strategies.

It's not purely for War. It encourages group-think and an US vs. THEM attitude especially at football game pep rallies.

dr. hfn
06-23-2009, 12:03 PM
i wish we could get lew rockwell stuff published in major media

Theocrat
06-23-2009, 12:17 PM
It's just one of many methods of indoctrination. Board games like Chess also teach war strategies.

It's not purely for War. It encourages group-think and an US vs. THEM attitude especially at football game pep rallies.

Is all group-think wrong? Is all competition immoral?

FrankRep
06-23-2009, 12:23 PM
Is all group-think wrong? Is all competition immoral?
People should think for themselves. With group-think the leader does the thinking for the group and the people can be exploited very easy.

Cooperation is much more effective than competition, but competition helps us understand who has the better method or idea.

Theocrat
06-23-2009, 12:36 PM
People should think for themselves. With group-think the leader does the thinking for the group and the people can be exploited very easy.

Cooperation is much more effective than competition, but competition helps us understand who has the better method or idea.

I don't believe all group-think is bad. There's usually nothing wrong with people coming together in support of a common ideal or task which they all hold dear. An example of that would be Liberty Forest. However, I do understand what you're getting at in the dangers of group-think, such as in cult circles and Obama fan clubs.

Also, cooperation and competition go hand-in-hand. How else is competition made ready without parties involved cooperating together? The point of any competition is whether each party abides by the rules fairly to ensure a healthy competition. Sure, not all competition may be moral, but I don't see how attending a football game and cheering for one's favorite team is going to make me support unjust wars.

FrankRep
06-23-2009, 12:42 PM
I don't believe all group-think is bad. There's usually nothing wrong with people coming together in support of a common ideal or task which they all hold dear. An example of that would be Liberty Forest. However, I do understand what you're getting at in the dangers of group-think, such as in cult circles and Obama fan clubs.

Having independently minded people come together for a common purpose is awesome and I don't consider that group-think. Group-think punishes those people who have thoughts that deviate from the group.

Krugerrand
06-23-2009, 12:59 PM
That was a fun read. Still, school sport competitions far out date any possible government conspiracy.

Besides, the band has to play somewhere!

FrankRep
06-23-2009, 01:08 PM
That was a fun read. Still, school sport competitions far out date any possible government conspiracy.
Early civilizations have used sports to help prepare young men for war.

Son of Detroit
06-23-2009, 01:14 PM
I strongly disagree. I enjoy our pep rallies that we have at my school. To me it's nothing more than harmless fun.

Do you all feel the same when it is applied outside of the school setting? I went to a Detroit Red Wings rally/party during the Stanley Cup Finals. Support the good guys (Wings), jeer the enemy (Penguins). It's not me getting ready to support unjust wars, it's me having a good time cheering for my favorite hockey team. Nothing more.

heavenlyboy34
06-23-2009, 01:32 PM
good article. Thanks. :)

heavenlyboy34
06-23-2009, 01:34 PM
Blaming pep rallies as a means of indoctrinating people for war is quite a stretch, in my opinion.

The scope of the article is well beyond pep rallies. There's a reason Marx endorsed State education (aka "public schooling"), you know. ;) :eek:

Heata
06-23-2009, 02:38 PM
I had such a hard time through high school. This article really hits home with me. I remember arguing with a teacher about going to a pep rally. I told her I didn't care about school spirit and the gist of her answer was that it didn't matter what I thought, that I had to do what everyone else did and had to be excited about what everyone else was excited about and that was that. :confused:

High school was the biggest regret of my life, I love my mother but it really angers me that she made me go to that shit hole waste of time. I consider those the lost years of my life, trying to act like I cared about everyone else in that school and that I cared about what I was "learning" and that I cared about making the grade. I really felt like something was wrong with me that I couldn't be "happy" like all the others. I'm so glad I'm not like all the others now.

I just cant believe all of the time wasted when I could have been learning something useful on my own. I have learned so much more about myself and the world through reading liberty minded and economic websites in 6 months then I ever learned in public school. I feel so cheated and disgusted. :mad:

Pericles
06-23-2009, 03:27 PM
People should think for themselves. With group-think the leader does the thinking for the group and the people can be exploited very easy.

Such as quoting somebody else from a website without adding any analysis showing an independent critique of the idea being presented?

FrankRep
06-23-2009, 03:35 PM
Such as quoting somebody else from a website without adding any analysis showing an independent critique of the idea being presented?
I posted the article to get the idea out there, then I posted my opinions.

Munier1
06-23-2009, 03:45 PM
The post about the Redwings rally was interesting and I'd like to make a response to that. I think the difference between cheering for a pro sports team (or any team outside of public schools) is that you are not being coerced into doing it the way you are at pep rallies. Sports and public schools do not really mix. We should privatize children's sports. When I was a kid, it was always better if the team you played for was unaffiliated with the school. It just goes to show that government and coercive institutions can ruin just about anything.

Steeleye
06-23-2009, 04:22 PM
The post about the Redwings rally was interesting and I'd like to make a response to that. I think the difference between cheering for a pro sports team (or any team outside of public schools) is that you are not being coerced into doing it the way you are at pep rallies. Sports and public schools do not really mix. We should privatize children's sports. When I was a kid, it was always better if the team you played for was unaffiliated with the school. It just goes to show that government and coercive institutions can ruin just about anything.

I was never coerced into cheering at any pep rallies during high school. I actually enjoyed them because it got us out of class and I could watch everybody else act like a jackass.

coyote_sprit
06-23-2009, 04:24 PM
I used to sleep during those.

Young Paleocon
06-23-2009, 04:28 PM
I always thought it was odd to chant arbitrarily and mindlessly in unison for a team I didn't give a shit about at a school I didn't give a shit about, and who's victory didn't mean anything in reality. It all seemed so pointless, I wanted to go to school to learn and prepare fro my future not say rah rah team go get other team because you are defending our school's honor. Psssh, if my school spent half as much time on higher qualified teachers as it did doing sports related things maybe my senior class would have had more than 250 people graduate when we had an initial freshman class of 360.

mediahasyou
06-23-2009, 08:14 PM
I completely disagree. Pep rallies and big games release the competitive energy in us.

Be thankful that the big game is just a football game or harmless sport. Imagine if we didn't have any organized games, kids might come up with their own game "war". Sports are far less deadly than war.


With that said, I do not support public schools.


Group think is not bad all the time and does not always obstruct free will. If each member of the group believes the being part of the group benefits them, then group think is not bad. In fact, groups can get much more done (e.g. C4L).

Group think is bad when individuals of the group are told to sacrifice themselves for the greater good of the group.

DapperDan
06-24-2009, 12:13 AM
Pep rallies in HS may be a bit of a stretch since it's just our competitive nature to be better than the other team. However I do agree with indoctrination of public school education with the crap they teach.

I never went to mine...me and my buds would always make a mad dash to the parking lot and get the hell out before teachers could block the exits rofl

Kraig
06-24-2009, 08:30 AM
Interesting article, I remember having the "I don't give a shit about your team" attitude these during this rallies and I would hang out with the other guys who had the same attitude. One time me and two friends managed to sneak in a "I hope you lose" sign and held it for about 2 minutes before we were sent to the principles office and suspended. Funny how we were treated like the bad kids because of it, our teachers would use their position to act as if they had the moral high ground on everything.

Conza88
06-24-2009, 08:54 AM
Education: Free and Compulsory - Murray N. Rothbard (http://mises.org/story/2226)

:)

RevolutionSD
06-24-2009, 09:25 AM
That was a great article and defines what collectivism is all about.

Aurelia
06-24-2009, 01:30 PM
My favorite part of this was the comparison of the school jerks who you cheer for and scream for during the pep rallies. You can hate them, but you must still support them for what they represent. So very like politics. I always used to use that time to just leave campus--everybody was too busy caring about a sport, when I had no idea what the difference between a line backer and quarter backer was. Ha. And now I live abroad. I guess I haven't changed too much.

idirtify
06-24-2009, 01:39 PM
I don't believe all group-think is bad. There's usually nothing wrong with people coming together in support of a common ideal or task which they all hold dear. An example of that would be Liberty Forest. However, I do understand what you're getting at in the dangers of group-think, such as in cult circles and Obama fan clubs.

Also, cooperation and competition go hand-in-hand. How else is competition made ready without parties involved cooperating together? The point of any competition is whether each party abides by the rules fairly to ensure a healthy competition. Sure, not all competition may be moral, but I don't see how attending a football game and cheering for one's favorite team is going to make me support unjust wars.

Theocrat,

You make good points, but they aren’t much related to the article. The article mostly points out the imbalance of what is taught and modeled and generally coerced in government schools; being based mostly on collectivist principles, it translates into indoctrination.

If there’s an article on the evils of communism and socialism, it doesn’t make much sense to reply with “there’s nothing wrong with people helping others”.

idirtify
06-24-2009, 01:56 PM
Great article! Long live free information!

It’s these kinds of fresh perspectives that get everyone thinking and talking - and wondering about how it might apply to them. Or ME?! Hmm…like how indoctrinated am I in collectivist principles?? OMG!

Just how closely shall we peer into the mirror and look for what might be interpreted as telltale signs? Should we or should we not look right here at this discussion forum for collectivist elements? If we assume not, or that it would be too “disruptive” to investigate, aren’t we only demonstrating some of those signs? If we only speak of distant times and places, yet exclude our present environment from critical analysis, aren’t we only proving our worst fear; that we are certainly indoctrinated? Let find out. For example: Do you think there are any examples of blind allegiance to authorities here in Liberty Forest? Or do you feel that I should be booed and hissed for even suggesting such a thing – and expelled from this particular rally?