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american.swan
06-22-2009, 08:05 PM
I am going to do whatever I can to stay out of the USA and get citizenship in another country. I would rather give up on the USA then live under a dictator and be taxed.

I am not going to be taxed twice. I will do whatever I can to fight for liberty in the US, but I am doubtful I will return.

torchbearer
06-22-2009, 08:10 PM
would you pay tribute to the dictator that rules you?

satchelmcqueen
06-22-2009, 08:40 PM
its not legal imo, but to avoid jail, i pay. until everyone in the usa gets together on this, im afraid it will never change.

Steeleye
06-22-2009, 08:48 PM
I am going to do whatever I can to stay out of the USA and get citizenship in another country. I would rather give up on the USA then live under a dictator and be taxed.

I am not going to be taxed twice. I will do whatever I can to fight for liberty in the US, but I am doubtful I will return.

Which country would you go to? The only one I can think of that would be remotely friendly to our beliefs would be Switzerland.

Sandman33
06-22-2009, 08:53 PM
Which country would you go to? The only one I can think of that would be remotely friendly to our beliefs would be Switzerland.

There IS nowhere else to go. There is only ONE America and either we fight to keep it the place that other oppressed people want to go or we simply lie down and let the NWO destroy freedom for all mankind for all eternity.

Steeleye
06-22-2009, 08:57 PM
There IS nowhere else to go. There is only ONE America and either we fight to keep it the place that other oppressed people want to go or we simply lie down and let the NWO destroy freedom for all mankind for all eternity.

I agree 100%. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Rael
06-22-2009, 09:03 PM
There IS nowhere else to go. There is only ONE America and either we fight to keep it the place that other oppressed people want to go or we simply lie down and let the NWO destroy freedom for all mankind for all eternity.

+1000

I'm not going to another country, the statist scum are the ones that need to GTFO

american.swan
06-22-2009, 09:05 PM
There IS nowhere else to go. There is only ONE America and either we fight to keep it the place that other oppressed people want to go or we simply lie down and let the NWO destroy freedom for all mankind for all eternity.

I agree to a large extent. That bothers my thoughts a lot.


Which country would you go to? The only one I can think of that would be remotely friendly to our beliefs would be Switzerland."

Good question. Maybe Singapore or South Korea, my wife is a Korean, so I can get a Korean citizenship fairly easily.

SimpleName
06-22-2009, 09:17 PM
Leave America? Where would you go? America is sadly, by far the most libertarian society. The taxes we face are nothing compared to the tyrannical suppression of economic freedom in Europe and especially the more socialist nations, hence why the EU came before the North American Union. And Britain is overrun with corruption. And if you follow Alex Jones, those London bombings in 2005 were much more suspicious than 9/11. Remember Daniel Hannan blasting Gordon Brown? There was a reason. That country is basically the US a few years down the road. Anyway, enough of Britain.

Point is, you should stay right here in the US and fight to the bitter end. Remind yourself of the people who fought so valiantly to give you this freedom (and if your black, think Frederick Douglass and MLK...or Thomas Jefferson). They fought and you can too. At least do what I've done and explain to people your views to everyone you can and tell them why they are so effective. People don't really understand the issues, that's why they are so complacent. Make people understand. Just do not give up, if not for yourself, for the rest of us libertarians

As for the federal income tax, I'm a bit up in the air about legality. Some people claim the connotation in 1913 of "income" was different, but then why was it implemented very soon after to include "non-profits". Are we just making that up or is that outright trickery and a political skewing of the definition? Nonetheless, it is 100% UNETHICAL! The ease of corruption through the income tax is too much. Skewing the tax code just a bit can cause certain people great harm and give others a significant boost. If everybody could join in together and I had lived my life some, I would definitely not pay in.

Pericles
06-22-2009, 11:05 PM
Which country would you go to? The only one I can think of that would be remotely friendly to our beliefs would be Switzerland.

And you can't just move there. Residence permit requires employer sponsorship (and now preference is given to EU citizens), or show assets of 2mil Swiss in Switzerland to "buy" your way in.