Ron Paul comes in third at MI strawpoll

[crhoades]

Very strong showing. Beat Rudy and Fred
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/09/post_219.html

[ross11988]

still good, never the less

[ItDoesNotStopWithRonPaul]

Very strong showing. Beat Rudy and Fred
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/09/post_219.html

From my experience, Michigan is Neocon territory, so this is a good showing. Remember folks, we don't have to WIN every state, we just need at least a strong 2nd or 3rd in every state and 1sts in key states like NH and hopefully some of the other early primaries. Plus, we need to let the otherwise well intentioned neocons that they have been duped and can't win the general election with a neocon, prowar stance.

[literatim]

Michigan did get rid of affirmative action.

[joshuastjohn]

This is very good and not surprising. I've been to some republican meetings here and the state gop is split between Romney and McCain. Outside of some pricinct delegates, there is no support for Ron Paul within the party.

[quickmike]

This is good, dont get me wrong, but I still cant understand how people, even within the party, could be such sheep to vote for some guy that changes his position on issues more than I change the oil in my car. WTF???

It never ceases to amaze me. What could ANYONE possibly see in this guy that can be even halfway admirable? Maybe they dont understand he cant beat Hillary?

Maybe the Ron Paul message isnt known enough yet? Good job with 10 % but still a long way to go and alot of people to educate up in michigan.

[TexMac]

Don't forget that Romney's father was Gov of Michigan, and chairman of AMC. He's sort of a native son.

[ThePieSwindler]

Wow goddamn. Beaten by McCain? Somehow i just knew the MSM would prop up and pump life into McCain's near-dead campaign, and they went through with it for the september 5th debate, when McCain actually started talking about things other than how he's been in the military and serving the country for half his life, and how we are fighting a holy war against islamist extremists that will last for a century. People say they stll "respect" McCain, and for some reason Arizona keeps electing him, but i say fuck McCain, he might not be a bad guy but he is either dumb or hardheaded or both, and his rhetoric scares the shit out of me, making him seem like a fucking madman.

[pcosmar]

Maybe the Ron Paul message isnt known enough yet? Good job with 10 % but still a long way to go and alot of people to educate up in michigan.
We're workin' on that. Our local district Chairman was very anti-Paul, now he is tolerant. There are more in my area that will vote in the primary, but just aren't "active" in politics.
Never give up, Never surrender.

[QWE]

compare this to the last Michigan Staw Poll in June:
http://www.humanevents.com/rightangle/index.php?1=1&title=tancredo_wins_straw_poll_in_michigan
although this was near detroit....

also remember this was a $100 registration fee, plus transportation to Macinac Island... I don't think any candidates were buying tickets or providing transportation for this one, but some Ron Paul groups did find some ways to bus people over for free or cheap. 106 votes is pretty good, I think. Also, that's $10,600 dollars (at least) raised for the Michigan GOP from Ron Paul supporters - I think this is why they have been humoring us rather than trying to silence us (like they were at one point).

[bygone]

Frmr New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani was close behind Paul, taking 10.62%.

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[Swmorgan77]

This is good, dont get me wrong, but I still cant understand how people, even within the party, could be such sheep to vote for some guy that changes his position on issues more than I change the oil in my car. WTF???

It never ceases to amaze me. What could ANYONE possibly see in this guy that can be even halfway admirable? Maybe they dont understand he cant beat Hillary?

Maybe the Ron Paul message isnt known enough yet? Good job with 10 % but still a long way to go and alot of people to educate up in michigan.

He looks good and talks nice, and is related to someone they liked.

[M.Bellmore]

All we need to do is show his anti-gun bias and how Romney joined the NRA only last November when he decided maybe that would be good to hook in the 2nd amendment people. Michigan is definitely a 2nd amendment state. All of the internet polls in the universe won't help win Michigan.

I believe Romney is the only competition in Michigan. It may be time for some negative campaigning targeting Romney. Take a look at this text:

Once again, Mitt Romney is up on charges of being totally full of crap...The past Sunday on"This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Romney stated that he'd signed up for a lifetime membership with the NRA "within the last year." Romney spokesman Kevin Madden followed that by claiming: "the decision was not a ploy to attract conservative voters."


Are you f* kidding me! Does Kevin Madden actually expect us to swallow that tripe...Yes I suppose he does. Willard is a guy who spent the greater part of his life in Michigan and Utah and decided, just now, after 4 years in Massachusetts that he needed to join the NRA. Once again, according to Madden:



"He joined the NRA because, like millions of Americans, he supports the group's advocacy of the Second Amendment and its commitment to education programs promoting the safe use of firearms by law-abiding citizens...I would argue not many Americans care when you join, but why you join, and I think I've made that clear."

Uhh...Kevin when someone joins a group with a political agenda that is as clear and demonstrated as the NRA - mere months prior to announcing his candidacy for the President of the United States; I have to concur that when you join, has everything to do with why and that Americans who do not have their political choices force fed to them will care.


“I have a gun of my own,” Romney said last month. “I’m a member of the NRA and believe firmly in the right to bear arms.”

Shockingly, way back in 2002 Mitt whistled a different tune:



“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts, I support them. I won’t chip away at them."

When answering questions about his support for the Brady Bill in 1994, Mitt was quoted as saying:


"That’s not going to make me the hero of the NRA...I don’t line up with the NRA.”

At one point prior to one of his many mammoth idelogolocal flip-flops, Romney signed America’s first state-level assault-weapons ban, and I was almost proud to call him my Governor. I wonder what the NRA thought of that weapons ban at the time? I'm surprised they even allowed him to have a membership...No, wait...I'm not.


http://anyonebutromneyin08.blogspot.com/2007/02/talk-about-flip-flopper-mitt-and-guns.html

[Corydoras]

Someday, some party will figure out that it's not a good idea to run a presidential candidate with strong ties to Massachusetts, even if MA is close to NH.

[Zydeco]

Don't forget that Romney's father was Gov of Michigan, and chairman of AMC. He's sort of a native son.

I don't trust information in The Corner as far as I can throw it, but David Freddoso wrote that Romney paid for up to 200 supporters to attend the Mackinaw straw poll. Freddoso was there, so maybe he knows.

Really, Romney's campaign is truly sad. The only three straw polls he's won (Iowa, Illinois, and Mackinaw) he had to pay hundreds of people to bus in. I guess he's expecting to use that as propaganda in the future (I won Iowa, Illinois, and Michigan, the heartland loves me!) but it's so transparent that, in the YouTube Era, people will see through it no problem.

[wgadget]

It's hard to believe that people have already forgotten about McCain's amnesty bill and the McCain-Feingold finance reform thing. They must be SUPER-neocons up in Michigan.