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Kotin
06-15-2009, 12:19 PM
Moving Towards Tobacco Prohibition

Last week, another bill was passed and signed into law that takes more of our freedoms and violates the Constitution of the United States. It was, of course, done for the sake of the children, and in the name of the health of the citizenry. It’s always the case that when your liberty is seized, it is seized for your own good. Such is the condescension of Washington.

The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act will give sweeping new powers over tobacco to the FDA. It will require everyone engaged in manufacturing, preparing, compounding, or processing tobacco to register with the FDA and be subjected to FDA inspections, which is yet another violation of the Fourth Amendment. It violates the First Amendment by allowing the FDA to restrict tobacco advertising in multiple ways, as well as an outright ban on advertising any cigarettes as light, mild or low-tar. The FDA will have the power of pre-market reviews of all new tobacco products, and will impose new user fees, meaning taxes, on manufacturers and importers of tobacco products. It will even regulate the amount of nicotine in cigarettes.

My objections to the bill are not an endorsement of tobacco. As a physician I understand the adverse health effects of this bad habit. And that is exactly how smoking should be treated – as a bad habit and a personal choice. The way to combat poor choices is through education and information. Other than ensuring that tobacco companies do not engage in force or fraud to market their products, the federal government needs to stay out of the health habits of free people. Regulations for children should be at the state level. Unfortunately, government is using its already overly intrusive financial and regulatory roles in healthcare to establish a justifiable interest in intervening in your personal lifestyle choices as well. We all need to anticipate the level of health freedom that will remain once government manages all health care in this country.

Actions in Congress such as this tobacco bill are especially disconcerting after we thought we were beginning to see some progress in drawing down the wrong-headed and failed war on drugs. A majority of Americans now think marijuana should be legal, taxed and regulated, according to a recent Zogby poll and over 70 percent are in favor of allowing medicinal use of marijuana. Bills like this take us down exactly the wrong path. Instead of gaining more freedom with marijuana, we are moving closer to prohibiting tobacco. Our prisons are already bursting with non-violent drug offenders. How long will it be before a black market in tobacco fills the prisons with non-violent cigarette smokers?

Hemp and tobacco were staple crops for our founding fathers when our country was new. It is baffling to see how far removed from real freedom this country has become since then. Hemp, even for industrial uses, of which there are many, is illegal to grow at all. Now tobacco will have more layers of bureaucracy and interference piled on top of it. In this economy it is extremely upsetting to see this additional squeeze put on an entire industry. One has to wonder how many smaller farmers will be forced out of business because of this bill.

dannno
06-15-2009, 12:33 PM
So is there still an exception for producing tobacco for personal consumption?

Doesn't sound like it..

heavenlyboy34
06-15-2009, 12:40 PM
I tried warning folks that the Leviathan State would pull shit like this, but did they listen? NO! :( (thnx for the post, Kotin ~hugs~)

dannno
06-15-2009, 12:41 PM
I hate that they use the word manufacture. I don't manufacture tobacco, motherfucking nature manufactures tobacco. Same with another plant I know.

I don't need the US government regulating motherfucking nature. That's not what I signed up for.

RonPaulR3VOLUTION
06-15-2009, 01:36 PM
http://www.house.gov/htbin/blog_inc?BLOG,tx14_paul,blog,999,All,Item%20not%20 found,ID=090615_2978,TEMPLATE=postingdetail.shtml

LibertyEagle
06-15-2009, 01:38 PM
I tried warning folks that the Leviathan State would pull shit like this, but did they listen? NO! :( (thnx for the post, Kotin ~hugs~)

:rolleyes:

None of us here are for big government.

Pepsi
06-15-2009, 06:07 PM
It also bans those fruit and candy flavored cigarettes. Parents were the ones that should have took up the responsibility to prevent thier kids from getting and useing them.

james1906
06-15-2009, 06:16 PM
It also bans those fruit and candy flavored cigarettes. Parents were the ones that should have took up the responsibility to prevent thier kids from getting and useing them.

Does that include flavored cigars?

dannno
06-15-2009, 06:20 PM
Does that include flavored cigars?

Ya and what about cloves? Cinnamon is a flavor..

dannno
06-15-2009, 06:23 PM
So is anybody uprooting the tobacco plants in their garden yet?

Pepsi
06-15-2009, 06:36 PM
Ya and what about cloves? Cinnamon is a flavor..

Yes it bans cinnamon flavor.From the bill

Any artificial or natural flavor (other than tobacco or menthol) or an herb or spice, including strawberry, cinnamon, or coffee

jkm1864
06-15-2009, 11:31 PM
I wonder if this is going to be used by the large tobacco companies to drive the smaller competition out of business. I quite smoking cigarettes about 5 months ago now I roll my own. I really like Peter Stokebye Norwegian and London blends. I try smoking a camel every now and then and it has no taste and it messes with my sinuses more than a rolled cigarette go figure.

werdd
06-16-2009, 06:01 AM
They are on the right track to create a black market for tobacco just like they did with marijuana, and alchohol during prohibition. What do you think is going to happen when cigarettes are 12 bucks a pack in New York and 3 dollars in South Carolina?

This is going to have the adverse effect. The more taboo smoking is, the cooler it will become
to impressionable young smokers.

Danno probably saw the trailerpark boys episode in season 7 where Sebastion Bach trades the boys cigarettes for weed. The boys decided it was a good idea because the cigarettes he bought in the US were cheaper than in canada, and their money ended up being laundered.

"Cigarettes are better than cash"

A quote from both Bach and Paul :P.

werdd
06-16-2009, 06:04 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2240/2193814688_37228d4de8.jpg?v=0

I heard there is some great fucking trains in banglor!

james1906
06-16-2009, 06:47 AM
I wonder if this is going to be used by the large tobacco companies to drive the smaller competition out of business. I quite smoking cigarettes about 5 months ago now I roll my own. I really like Peter Stokebye Norwegian and London blends. I try smoking a camel every now and then and it has no taste and it messes with my sinuses more than a rolled cigarette go figure.

Phillip Morris loves this bill. Fascism at its finest.

james1906
06-16-2009, 06:49 AM
Also, is this going to result in 10th Amendment style bills in tobacco growing states, where tobacco grown and sold within the state is exempt?

Mark Sanford, are you listening?