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disorderlyvision
06-14-2009, 07:25 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN14131333

WASHINGTON, June 14 (Reuters) - CIA director Leon Panetta says it's almost as if former vice president Dick Cheney would like to see another attack on the United States to prove he is right in criticizing President Barack Obama for abandoning the "harsh interrogation" of terrorism suspects.

"I think he smells some blood in the water on the national security issue," Panetta said in an interview published in The New Yorker magazine's June 22 issue.

"It's almost, a little bit, gallows politics. When you read behind it, it's almost as if he's wishing that this country would be attacked again, in order to make his point."

Cheney, who was a key advocate in the Bush administration of controversial interrogation methods such as waterboarding, has become as a leading Republican critic of Obama's ban on harsh interrogations and his plan to shut the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

In a blistering May 21 speech, Cheney said Obama's reversal of Bush-era policies were "unwise in the extreme" that would make the American people less safe.

Panetta called Cheney's actions "dangerous politics."

He told The New Yorker he had favored the creation of an independent truth commission to look into the detainee polices of former President George W. Bush. But the idea died in April when Obama decided such a panel could be seen as politically vindictive. (Reporting by David Morgan; Editing by Alan Elsner)

RonPaulCentral
06-14-2009, 09:49 PM
I believe it... why not. He let 911 go down.

InterestedParticipant
06-14-2009, 11:52 PM
This is just part of the setup for the Fall 2009 event that they have planned, where...

America gets attacked because it doesn't have the
backbone to treat it's enemies with an Iron Fist!

So, Cheney's rhetoric is setting the stage for "I told you so," whereby there will be a foundation for support of much stronger government action to keep America safe. Hello draconian new laws and enforcement measures, most like aimed at domestic terrorists (as next staged attack will most likely be perpetrated by a domestic actors).

They have become so incredibly transparent.

TGGRV
06-15-2009, 06:53 AM
Actually Cheney is right. All the stupid apologizing and budget cuts do no good considering how the rest of the foreign policy is. Plus, you can't go from being hatred from not being all over. The US needs to gradually withdraw from everywhere and stop interfering so that a power vacuum won't be created.

And I don't recall Cheney being the one who cut funds to the FBI&CIA so that they have less operatives in the anti-terrorism stuff.

On the other hand, the security of US nationals won't be improved by just removing their liberties.

acptulsa
06-15-2009, 06:59 AM
Another amazingly accurate prediction by The Onion:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30742

Aratus
06-15-2009, 09:15 AM
i just saw joe biden on "meet the press" and he made a few quiet comments in team player tandem with this...

sevin
06-15-2009, 09:37 AM
This is just part of the setup for the Fall 2009 event that they have planned, where...

America gets attacked because it doesn't have the
backbone to treat it's enemies with an Iron Fist!



Citations? (not being a smartass or doubting it, just wondering where you got this idea.)

heavenlyboy34
06-15-2009, 09:43 AM
Another amazingly accurate prediction by The Onion:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30742 (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30742)

lolz...I love the Onion! ;):D:cool:

InterestedParticipant
06-15-2009, 10:55 AM
Citations? (not being a smartass or doubting it, just wondering where you got this idea.)
I understand and appreciate the inquiry.

Unfortunately, there are no citations, there is no reference I can cite. It's researching and understanding their techniques, then recognizing them when they are used.

Probably the most important techniques one can understand is the "dialectic" and how messages are inserted into the public consciousness to create these "dialectics," whereby the solutions are pre-planned.

Herbert Marcuse & Theodore Adorno of the Frankfurt school are the most recent known contributors/forces behind many of these techniques that you see employed. Studying these guys and that institution will go a long way to recognizing these patterns when they are thrown in our face again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Liberty Star
06-15-2009, 02:37 PM
Cheney may be looking for distractions to avoid risk of him going to a prison cell and/or getting all his family estates wiped out from torture law suits that have just started to trickle in.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2166425&postcount=67