National Healthcare Access Question

[Objectivist]

WHile arguing with the radio talk show host I came to a conclusion on the National Healthcare issue. PHONES! If everyone is to be required or given healthcare then everyone must have equal access to it, shouldn't they? Forgive me for thinking like a retarded liberal fascist but bear with me for a moment.

If a person has a heart attack and they have the resources to provide for a phone, landline or cellular, then they have access to emergency medical treatment via an ambulance or firefighter/paramedic through the 911 Dispatcher. So that would put them in a better position to receive treatment for a stroke or heart attack.

SO how will homeless or impoverished Americans gain access to emergency medical treatment under the Obama Fascist Plan? I assume they have a PLAN? I know they give bus passes to poor people and food stamps, etc.. to anyone that is incapable of providing for themselves or refuses to provide for their own needs.

SO in order for some bum who may be living under a bridge somewhere to receive the healthcare being promised, he/she will need the resources to make a phone call or have someone call in case of a catastrophic medical situation. Then I'm assuming criminal illegal aliens will get a phone too for the same scenario?

[Objectivist]

I guess I was correct...

[idiom]

911 is available on public payphones isn't it? A service provided freely by private phone companies?

[acptulsa]

They'll never pull truly equal access off. But they might well break both the system and us trying.

[Objectivist]

911 is available on public payphones isn't it? A service provided freely by private phone companies?

Maybe you are unaware of this but public pay phones are going away with the advent of the cellular phone. Not very many places have them anymore and in 20 years I doubt you'll find any at all in outdoor public places. I did some homework on the viability of purchasing pay phones 18 years ago and opted out before they started to decline.

[Objectivist]

They'll never pull truly equal access off. But they might well break both the system and us trying.

This is on the mark.

[idiom]

It would not be a huge ask to maintain emergency phones for charity.

[Objectivist]

It would not be a huge ask to maintain emergency phones for charity.

Really? SO you're a socialist now? You can pony up the money for those phones if you like. I think people should be able to die from life.

[idiom]

I would switch my service to the phone company that did provide such obviously useful services.

If I ran a phone company I would provide the service and make a noise about it.

But you know, that all very government mandatey of me.

[LibForestPaul]

It would not be a huge ask to maintain emergency phones for charity.

Actually, it would be less costly to force homes onto homeless, with proper hygiene, dietary, and mental health programs, than waiting for them to endure an emergency visit to a hospital. What is the cost of diabetic gangrene now, orthopedic surgery for broken limbs , colon cancer...

At least some good will come from our brave new world...sick cattle cost money...only other way is culling the herd.

[Danke]

Any cellphone can access 911. U do not need a service plan. That is why battered women shelters take them as a donation.

Lots of unused old cell phones out there. No cost.

[reagle]

SafeLink Wireless is a government supported program that provides a free cell phone and airtime each month for income-eligible customers.
https://www.safelinkwireless.com/EnrollmentPublic/home.aspx

[idiom]

Actually, it would be less costly to force homes onto homeless, with proper hygiene, dietary, and mental health programs, than waiting for them to endure an emergency visit to a hospital. What is the cost of diabetic gangrene now, orthopedic surgery for broken limbs , colon cancer...

At least some good will come from our brave new world...sick cattle cost money...only other way is culling the herd.

Homeless are far from the only ones who may find themselves in need of emergency services without a wroking cellphone on their person.

The phones placed along highways are not there for all the homeless squatting out in the desert.

[Objectivist]

Any cellphone can access 911. U do not need a service plan. That is why battered women shelters take them as a donation.

Lots of unused old cell phones out there. No cost.

WHo pays to charge the batteries of millions of cell phones?

[Danke]

WHo pays to charge the batteries of millions of cell phones?

Deep thoughts by the "Objectivist"

[Objectivist]

Deep thoughts by the "Objectivist"

I guess too deep for you to answer, then I've been deeper than 99.99% of the population.

[idiom]

If only we had a currency denomination small enough to cover the electricty cost of charging a cell phone.

Saying that no one should ever let someone use a phone without paying cash up front is a bit odd, even for a hard randian.

[Objectivist]

If only we had a currency denomination small enough to cover the electricty cost of charging a cell phone.

Saying that no one should ever let someone use a phone without paying cash up front is a bit odd, even for a hard randian.

The point of the topic is phones being allocated at taxpayer expense to provide access to medical services by homeless people or the poor who cannot afford a phone. How else can they get emergency services that LPDs want to give or mandate to every American.

I object to paying for the healthcare and the soon to be access to said healthcare. People should provide for themselves or maintain their health so that they live well.

[idiom]

Actually, it would be less costly to force homes onto homeless, with proper hygiene, dietary, and mental health programs, than waiting for them to endure an emergency visit to a hospital. What is the cost of diabetic gangrene now, orthopedic surgery for broken limbs , colon cancer...

At least some good will come from our brave new world...sick cattle cost money...only other way is culling the herd.

It would be easier to stop propping up home prices.

However if you lower your rents to what people are willing to pay insteead of leaving buildings empty, some people in this thread might call you a socialist.