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Paulitical Correctness
06-11-2009, 03:06 PM
Historic news - Dr. Paul's Audit the Fed Bill has passed the 218 co-sponsor benchmark, and now sits with 222.

Read his congressional press release here (http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/tx14_paul/audit.shtml).

Hats off to eveyone across the country who is working so hard. This is truly amazing. Let's keep it up!

Kevin_Kennedy
06-11-2009, 03:07 PM
This means it could be voted on to be sent straight to the floor right? I can't remember what that's called at the moment though.

Mahkato
06-11-2009, 03:08 PM
DIGG: http://digg.com/politics/Audit_the_Fed_Bill_Reaches_218 (http://digg.com/politics/Audit_the_Fed_Bill_Reaches_218)
OR: http://digg.com/d1tZyG (http://digg.com/d1tZyG)
OR: http://bit.ly/1kv92 (http://bit.ly/1kv92)

devil21
06-11-2009, 03:20 PM
That should shut all the Kucinich haters up. He's working WITH RP to get at the Fed, not against him. Magic number 218.

ronpaulfollower999
06-11-2009, 03:22 PM
Amazing, amazing!!

Paulitical Correctness
06-11-2009, 03:24 PM
New additions,

-Rep. David Loebsack
-Rep. Gary Miller
-Rep. Frank Wolf
-Rep. Corrine Brown
-Rep. Jackie Speier
-Rep. Bruce Braley
-Rep. Donna Edwards
-Rep. Bobby Bright
-Rep. Anh "Joseph" Cao
-Rep. Jared Polis
-Rep. Dennis Kucinich
-Rep. Howard "Buck" McKeon
-Rep. Howard Coble
-Rep. Jean Schmidt
-Rep. Heath Shuler

almantimes2
06-11-2009, 03:25 PM
Wow. A year ago I would have never thought we would have actually gotten this far.

purplechoe
06-11-2009, 03:28 PM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/10/15/business/15assess01-600.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c6BavI0fSJI/SH3GKQwfJkI/AAAAAAAAAM0/e_uBAGwan88/s400/henryandbenny.JPG

http://kickapathy.com/images/ron-paul-blimp.jpg

mrchubbs
06-11-2009, 03:29 PM
This is a BIG WIN.

Love it.

Time to focus on S604 for real now... Should go after Jim DeMint for the first cosponsor... He's on the Banking Committee and could be sensitive to the cause.


Enjoy!!!

haaaylee
06-11-2009, 03:31 PM
Oh. My. God.


Score!

Paulitical Correctness
06-11-2009, 03:34 PM
Our kung fu is strong. :D

Dr.3D
06-11-2009, 03:40 PM
http://www.nogw.com/images/bernanke_ben.jpg
Oh nooooooo!

eduardo89
06-11-2009, 03:42 PM
290 here we come!!

He Who Pawns
06-11-2009, 03:44 PM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/10/15/business/15assess01-600.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c6BavI0fSJI/SH3GKQwfJkI/AAAAAAAAAM0/e_uBAGwan88/s400/henryandbenny.JPG

http://kickapathy.com/images/ron-paul-blimp.jpg

Amazing, Amazing!!

*wipes away tears from cheeks*

american.swan
06-11-2009, 03:53 PM
Let's Sing: America America.....

ItsTime
06-11-2009, 03:59 PM
So what exactly does this mean?

Jeremy
06-11-2009, 04:01 PM
http://ronpaulsaysno.ytmnd.com/

MsDoodahs
06-11-2009, 04:03 PM
Congratulations, Dr. Paul.

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for your selfless run for the White House, which resulted in the greatest gift to us - this network, and each other.

:)

purplechoe
06-11-2009, 04:06 PM
So what exactly does this mean?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b46/carolinimartini/braveheart.jpg?t=1244760576

torchbearer
06-11-2009, 04:08 PM
So what exactly does this mean?

majority of congress supports this bill.

devil21
06-11-2009, 04:10 PM
majority of congress supports this bill.

Majority of the HOUSE supports this bill. The Senate will be a much tougher mountain to climb.

torchbearer
06-11-2009, 04:13 PM
Majority of the HOUSE supports this bill. The Senate will be a much tougher mountain to climb.

Senators in Louisiana will fall in line.
Neither of them are certain on their re-election.

Kevin_Kennedy
06-11-2009, 04:22 PM
So does this mean that it can be voted on to be sent directly to the floor, or do we need more co-sponsors for that?

Andrew-Austin
06-11-2009, 04:23 PM
Directs the Comptroller General to complete, before the end of 2010, an audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and of the federal reserve banks, followed by a detailed report to Congress.

Oh shit plenty of time to cook the books.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comptroller_General_of_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Louis_Dodaro


On February 15, 2008 when the seventh Comptroller General of the United States, David M. Walker, announced that he was departing from his office before the end of his 15-year term to pursue an opportunity at The Peter G. Peterson Foundation he appointed Dodaro to replace him. Hence on March 13, 2008 Dodaro became the Acting Comptroller General[2] and will remain in that position until the President nominates and the Senate confirms a successor from a list of candidates chosen by the Congress[1].

Would be interesting to see if Obama suddenly nominates a new Comptroller General.

raiha
06-11-2009, 04:24 PM
Where's the MEDIA????
Oh that's right...It was the von Brunn's idea.:(

Well done American's (haven't said that for a while) and particularly CFL people!

But mostly:

Bravo Ron Paul!
YOU LITTLE BEAUTY!!!

torchbearer
06-11-2009, 04:24 PM
So does this mean that it can be voted on to be sent directly to the floor, or do we need more co-sponsors for that?

It is slotted to be debated in committee this summer:

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/tx14_paul/audit.shtml


Hearings on Federal Reserve transparency are expected within the next month, as part of the Financial Services Committee's series of hearings on regulatory reform.

iddo
06-11-2009, 04:24 PM
Lindsay Graham says the he support an audit of the Fed:
YouTube - Lindsey Graham Is Asked Why He Supported The Bailouts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B89v-ve69wQ#t=2m30s)

Mandrik
06-11-2009, 04:25 PM
I just got the e-mail from C4L a minute ago. I'm at work, but I jumped up and let out a big "WOO HOO!" Thankfully I don't work on the phones or near the phones here in the call center. ;)

torchbearer
06-11-2009, 04:26 PM
Does C-Span broadcast sub-committee hearings? Can you make request? I'd like to see the debate on 1207.

heavenlyboy34
06-11-2009, 04:26 PM
HoorAY for RP and all of us who supported the bill! :)

angelatc
06-11-2009, 04:27 PM
So does this mean that it can be voted on to be sent directly to the floor, or do we need more co-sponsors for that?

A discharge petition can be circulated. If more than half the House signs it, the bill can bypass Committee and go straight to the floor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discharge_petition

Getting all the Dems to sign it might be tough if Pelosi doesn't want it signed though.

torchbearer
06-11-2009, 04:28 PM
A discharge petition can be circulated. If more than half the House signs it, the bill can bypass Committee and go straight to the floor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discharge_petition

Getting all the Dems to sign it might be tough if Pelosi doesn't want it signed though.

I think it would be wise to go for a discharge petition only if Barney tries to sit on it in committee.

mediahasyou
06-11-2009, 04:31 PM
who are the anti-fed senators?

Spike
06-11-2009, 04:35 PM
who are the anti-fed senators?

who aren't the anti-fed senators?

Andrew-Austin
06-11-2009, 04:40 PM
LRC article on the Government Accounting Office and Comptroller General:




http://www.lewrockwell.com/huff/huff14.html

Mr Orwell Goes to Washington by Bill Huff

April 14, 2008

]The GAO [formerly the Government Accounting Office] has changed its name without changing its acronym – quite a feat for a government agency. It even saves them from having to conjure up another catchy web address. It will be known henceforth as the "Government Accountability Office." As government grows and consumes everything in its path it becomes necessary from time to time to do some Orwellian adjustments. This new name is a real stroke of government genius showing a level of creativity previously unknown in the world of accounting. But let’s be fair – most of us recognize modern accounting as one of the fine arts not having any relationship to applied science.

The GAO describes itself: "The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) is known as ‘the investigative arm of Congress’ and ‘the congressional watchdog.’ GAO supports the Congress in meeting its constitutional responsibilities and helps improve the performance and ensure the accountability of the federal government for the benefit of the American people…" Click here to read more about the GAO at their website.

Even though it is described as a "congressional watchdog," it actually colludes with the Congress in evading constitutional responsibilities. It is a watchdog for the Congress – not for the People – and the Congress does not expect its own dog to bite the hand that feeds it. The "aristocrats" in Congress decide what is "best" for the American People [their reelection and arrogation of more and more power and wealth] – and then they solicit the help of the GAO to cook the books. The GAO effects this more by sins of omission than commission. They are not generating reports and pie charts to show the Congress all of the obvious benefits of going back to our lawful money of gold and silver. I would love to see that!

There has recently been a changing of the guard at the GAO with the resignation of Comptroller David M. Walker and appointment of Gene L. Dodaro, as Acting Comptroller. Government officials resign for all sorts of reasons. But it would appear Mr. Walker has turned into a very vocal itinerate "whistleblower." The man is talking Trillions and Trillions in unfunded future obligations that we will never be able to meet. See and hear the former Comptroller on 60 Minutes.

The Main Bean Counter: Chicken Little – or Paul Revere?

No rat leaving a sinking ship, David Walker sounds very sincere and his appeal seems heartfelt. But I don’t think he’s quite ready to join the Ron Paul campaign. If you listen carefully you may agree that he has not completely left the realms of virtual accounting. I think this is also true of the three major think tanks in his entourage: Heritage, Brookings and the Concord Coalition. To repudiate every aspect of state socialism would be to vindicate the Founders and Framers, and Dr. Ron Paul, who keeps telling us to pay attention to their warnings instead of self-medicating with the palliative of economic denial. We cannot afford an ounce of it. It would be a pity to divert and waste the energy of such a consensus. A false diagnosis and a band-aid now will only make the crash more destructive and its effects more long lasting. The rhetoric of reform must yield to the reality of Revolution.

In his 60 Minutes interview David Walker states: "If you tell them the truth; if you give them the facts; if you explain this in terms of not just numbers but values and people, they will get it and empower their elected officials to make tough choices."

What is Truth?

If Mr. Walker would sample the population regarding its knowledge of the Constitution I think he would have to agree that simply telling them the truth is not going to cut it. I would like to quiz the GAO staff on the Constitution. If our lawyers aren’t learning it, how can we reasonably expect accountants to know much about it? I think it is not precise to speak of the People "empowering" the Congress to make "tough choices." The "empowerment" of Congress should flow from the People through their Constitution – and from no other source. There is no other lawful option.

Instead of trying to salvage some cherished remnant of socialism or collectivism, the three named think tanks should start collaborating with Dr. Ron Paul – and pointing their fellow citizens toward lawful and Constitutional solutions. They can put more links on their websites to places like Mises.org, LewRockwell.com, and Lexrex.com. They must fully recognize the Welfare/Warfare State is as unsustainable as it is unconstitutional. It is immoral and unlawful in any measure; heinous and obscene at present levels, and will wreak havoc if not repudiated in its entirety. You cannot establish any element of state socialism without first abandoning the principle of Equality before the Law. There are many very discoverable reasons for the fact that No Welfare State existed in 1789. There is not a word in the Constitution to support it. The Framers were on the right track – and Ron Paul is on the right track.

Either we will have Lawful Money and Banking, With Zero Socialism, or we will Not have Lawful Government – and we must choose in every generation. The generation that bankrupts America for the next few generations – or perhaps forever – will not be remembered as the "Greatest Generation."

Here is another gem from the GAO: "A quick look at the federal budget reveals how much we have expanded beyond the Constitution's framers' original thoughts and our modest beginnings." A quick look!? The longer more reflective look may cause nausea and perhaps a sensation of serious head trauma. Are the "framers’ original thoughts" anything like the "strictures of Constitutional law," or were the Framers incapable of getting their thoughts down on paper? We are a nation without excuse. It is dysfunctional to pretend the Framers left us without an immaculate set of instructions. The government had truly "modest beginnings." But somehow it lost its youthful virtue.

Will Rogers once said his job as a humorist was never hard because he had the whole government working for him. If you go to any government website you will certainly have to agree with him. He also said, "If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?"

Disobeying the Constitution got us into this mess! Obeying it is the only way out!

What does the GAO recommend?

"What is needed is a more strategic, long-term, comprehensive, and integrated approach to help capitalize on related opportunities and manage related risks within current and expected resource levels…" It is interesting to note that their use of the word "capitalize" may have little to do with money or accounting. Down further we read: "Our current long-range fiscal path is clearly imprudent and fiscally unsustainable…" Then we see some language possibly related to covering the hind quarters: "Unless these issues are effectively addressed, they will surely begin to manage us." Is this a preface to a future "I told you so" speech? Yes! The "issues" will "manage us," sooner or later, if we fail to seize the day and Restore Limited Constitutional Government.

The GAO is advocating another "Reform." The Founders and Framers knew they needed a Revolution. I often go back to the Noah Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language to get that certain nuance of meaning that we may have left behind along the way. In his third entry for "reform" I found an interesting tidbit: "Reform … amendment of what is defective, vicious, corrupt or depraved; as the reformation of parliamentary elections; reform of government."

One meaning of the word "Revolution" that I find a useful Metaphor, is the mechanical usage denoting one complete turn back to the beginning. Our most brilliant minds can connect all the dots back to the beginning if anyone can. They can also avail themselves of the wisdom of the Founders and Framers. We don’t need to learn Everything from our own mistakes. And we don’t need to keep trying to fix something that is corrupt and vicious in its origins, execution and consequences.

Certain warnings bear much repetition: "But we want no excuse for any supposed mistakes of our ancestors. Let us first see it prov'd that they were mistakes. 'Till then we must hold ourselves obliged to them for sentiments transmitted to us so worthy of their character, and so important to our security: . . ." ~ Sam Adams

What’s in a name?

My suggestion: They should not stop at changing the word "accountability." Why not go all the way and call themselves the "VAO [Virtual Accountability Office]?" They should not use the term "Government" because they operate outside of constitutional authority almost exclusively. They should not use the word Accounting because there is nothing concrete to count. You cannot weigh fiat currency. And you absolutely cannot tell how much "liquidity" is being created by the Fed on behalf of their cronies – or perhaps counterfeited by the "Axis of Evil."

Suppose, as they now say, we are saving Billions, thanks to the fine people at the VAO, and suppose we are Missing Trillions. Do you see a problem here? According to the VAO Billions are allegedly well accounted for, while, according to other government sources, Trillions are Missing. As Mae West once said, "I’ve been a Thousandaire, and I’ve been a Millionaire and Millionaire is Better." Would you rather be missing a Billion or a Trillion? She also said, "Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie."

Why are we even talking virtual billions when virtual trillions are missing!? The VAO is off by a magnitude of perhaps 1000 to 1 or more in terms of what it should be talking about – and that’s only in fiat currency. Is it because they are only talking Virtual Economics – not real, finite, concrete, factual economics?

Still further down we read: "Without meaningful action, by 2040 our government could only have the resources to do little more than mail out Social Security checks and pay interest on the massive and growing national debt. This is obviously an unacceptable scenario." Should we be overwhelmed by a projection that by 2040 the "government" will only have enough virtual money to pay Social Security and the Interest on the National Debt – both of which are unconstitutional? Could this mean that by 2040 we will almost be ready to go back to the Constitution?

What are we waiting for?

torchbearer
06-11-2009, 04:42 PM
Time for Rifles?

rockandrollsouls
06-11-2009, 05:02 PM
That should shut all the Kucinich haters up. He's working WITH RP to get at the Fed, not against him. Magic number 218.

It doesn't change the fact Kucinich is a socialist. It took him long enough to cosponsor.

purplechoe
06-11-2009, 05:07 PM
Lindsay Graham says the he support an audit of the Fed:
YouTube - Lindsey Graham Is Asked Why He Supported The Bailouts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B89v-ve69wQ#t=2m30s)

http://www.sharpdimensions.com/photos/Zane_barf.jpg

literatim
06-11-2009, 05:25 PM
Getting it past the Senate will be far more difficult. Senators are a lot more corrupt than Representatives.

sluggo
06-11-2009, 05:25 PM
Can someone point me towards the complete list of co-sponsors?

CUnknown
06-11-2009, 05:29 PM
It doesn't change the fact Kucinich is a socialist. It took him long enough to cosponsor.

As long as he sponsored it! :D

torchbearer
06-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Can someone point me towards the complete list of co-sponsors?

ask and ye shall receive: http://libertymaven.com/wp-content/uploads/hr1207cosponsors.html

sluggo
06-11-2009, 05:32 PM
ask and ye shall receive: http://libertymaven.com/wp-content/uploads/hr1207cosponsors.html (http://libertymaven.com/wp-content/uploads/hr1207cosponsors.html)

Thanks!

I can't believe my worthless wannabe socialist Congressman has finally signed on.

I'm happy, but he's still a knucklehead.

aravoth
06-11-2009, 05:32 PM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/benanke.gif

torchbearer
06-11-2009, 05:33 PM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/aravoth/benanke.gif

too bad you can't embed audio into a gif.

rockandrollsouls
06-11-2009, 05:43 PM
As long as he sponsored it! :D

Oh, yea, I know. But let's not get too happy for Dennis....

purplechoe
06-11-2009, 06:13 PM
http://i.current.com/images/asset/896/506/99/phpARDtPz.gif

Jeremy
06-11-2009, 06:17 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/3050621163_2afa15db84.jpg

ClayTrainor
06-11-2009, 06:23 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/3050621163_2afa15db84.jpg

p-i-m-p.... :cool:

purplechoe
06-11-2009, 06:27 PM
http://endthefed.us/ETF%20Signs2.jpg

tremendoustie
06-11-2009, 06:28 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/3050621163_2afa15db84.jpg

Damn It Feels Good To Be A banksta kickin'gangsta

RonPaulFanInGA
06-11-2009, 06:29 PM
It doesn't change the fact Kucinich is a socialist. It took him long enough to cosponsor.

The fact that he was number 218 exactly, makes me think he waited around to be that symbolic number.

Still, Kucinich sucks on domestic issues by-and-large.

Jeremy
06-11-2009, 07:08 PM
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/9/6/0/9606dcbcf06b669797fc113ed928d903.gif

Spike
06-11-2009, 07:29 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/3050621163_2afa15db84.jpg

the g doesn't stand for grandpa

Imperial
06-11-2009, 07:30 PM
Don't forget a cosponsor isn't obligated to vote for the finished result. So, we still need more backers to make sure it passes and in case some people don't show up to vote!

heavenlyboy34
06-11-2009, 07:46 PM
I'm LMAO! :D:)

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/9/6/0/9606dcbcf06b669797fc113ed928d903.gif

Feelgood
06-11-2009, 07:56 PM
Youd think something like this would make it on Drudge Report... :rolleyes:

jkm1864
06-11-2009, 09:49 PM
Now its time to spam barney frank to let him know how we feel about this bill. Email his committee and keep this fresh on his perverted evil mind....


House Financial Services Committee

http://financialservices.house.gov/contact.html

RSLudlum
06-11-2009, 09:54 PM
Now its time to spam barney frank to let him know how we feel about this bill. Email his committee and keep this fresh on his perverted evil mind....


House Financial Services Committee

http://financialservices.house.gov/contact.html

While you're at it, don't forget to commend/flatter him for supporting the online gambling and marijuana decriminalization bill. :p

HOLLYWOOD
06-11-2009, 11:00 PM
Don't Forget this POS Liar and theft! FDIC Racketeerer Sheila Blair
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/53118/thumbs/s-SHEILA-BLAIR-large.jpg



http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/10/15/business/15assess01-600.jpg

StilesBC
06-11-2009, 11:12 PM
Victory!

Kind of. It's like mega man. You defeat one of the bosses, but there's always another one...

Next up... SenateMan

jdmyprez_deo_vindice
06-11-2009, 11:35 PM
Congrats to us all on this big moment but I would like to remind everyone to not back down. There are still folks out there who are refusing to even acknowledge this and one of them is Frank Kratovil (D-MD). Please help me write,call,e-mail him and let him know that we demand his attention and we are watching.

FSP-Rebel
06-12-2009, 07:58 AM
I can't believe we made it this far... I'm in shock

Aratus
06-12-2009, 08:05 AM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!! 222+ co-sponsors!

newbitech
06-12-2009, 08:37 AM
I am just curious, if the bill has this much support already, why wouldn't we want it to go ahead through the committee?

Barney Frank does carry some weight if I am not mistaken. I can only imagine that if this is debated in his committee, it will pick up even more co-sponsors and a some people who have not co-sponsored may yet cast their vote for it to come to the floor for debate. Maybe even Barney Frank will vote to send it to the floor for debate.

Wouldn't this approach lend even more credibility to the bill among congressmen and women?

Also, I think having a chance to debate this in the committee will open the media and we will get to see the people who don't support the bill before they have a chance to do damage on the floor.

I am not interested in rushing or fast tracking this bill. I am more interested in making sure congress does its job as defined in the constitution and I believe taking this slowly through congress will give the country time to digest the implications of returning oversight of our money back to the representatives of the people.

Slist
06-12-2009, 09:05 AM
Let's forget HR1207, S.604 is the ONLY thing that matters right now... this is the next big challenge all effort should go into!!

armstrong
06-12-2009, 09:26 AM
wow,,,yea,,,,,,but long way to go ,,,,,,,but for now ---------- yippie

AuH2O
06-12-2009, 11:02 AM
I am just curious, if the bill has this much support already, why wouldn't we want it to go ahead through the committee?

Barney Frank does carry some weight if I am not mistaken. I can only imagine that if this is debated in his committee, it will pick up even more co-sponsors and a some people who have not co-sponsored may yet cast their vote for it to come to the floor for debate. Maybe even Barney Frank will vote to send it to the floor for debate.

Wouldn't this approach lend even more credibility to the bill among congressmen and women?

Also, I think having a chance to debate this in the committee will open the media and we will get to see the people who don't support the bill before they have a chance to do damage on the floor.

I am not interested in rushing or fast tracking this bill. I am more interested in making sure congress does its job as defined in the constitution and I believe taking this slowly through congress will give the country time to digest the implications of returning oversight of our money back to the representatives of the people.

Committee only offers more opportunities for the bill to be amended and thus watered down.

And frankly, we don't want these Congresspeople to fully understand the consequences of an audit. As soon as they realize that dismantling the central bank will limit their ability to spend without limit, they'll have second thoughts.

So long as the bill's objective is understood by them to vaguely be "transparency" and "accountability," we can garner their support.

cska80
06-12-2009, 11:07 AM
Has anyone noticed that talk radio has been silent on this today?