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Mahkato
06-09-2009, 04:01 PM
Time for some sunshine on that bald head of yours, Mr. Bernanke!


207!!! (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=19674)

Earlier (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=19657) in the day, we reported that HR 1207 is now up to 200 cosponsors.
I'd like to correct that... by changing it to 207!!!
Rep. David Dreier (R-CA)
Rep. Steve King (R-IA)
Rep. John Boehner (R-OH)**
Rep. Ed Perlmutter (D-CO)*
Rep. Chris Lee (R-NY)*
Rep. Mike McIntyre (D-NC)
Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA)
* House Financial Services Committee Member
** Minority Leader, House of Representatives (Yes, you read that right!)
Digg: http://digg.com/d1tODp

Digg C4L's new press release: http://digg.com/politics/Ron_Paul_s_Audit_the_Fed_Bill_Hits_207_Co_Sponsors OR http://bit.ly/wI7dW

http://digg.com/politics/207_co_sponsors_for_HR1207_Federal_Reserve_Transpa rency_Act

http://digg.com/d1tS20

eduardo89
06-09-2009, 04:02 PM
Awesome!

MRoCkEd
06-09-2009, 04:07 PM
holy shit!!!!!!!! boehner!!!!

eduardo89
06-09-2009, 04:09 PM
holy shit!!!!!!!! boehner!!!!

I know, that's crazy!:D

Cowlesy
06-09-2009, 04:09 PM
Camppaaaaaign for liberttttyyyyyyy!

Imperial
06-09-2009, 04:11 PM
Yeah baby!!!

Mahkato
06-09-2009, 04:14 PM
Digg the crap out of this one, boys and girls! http://digg.com/politics/207_co_sponsors_for_HR1207_Federal_Reserve_Transpa rency_Act

MRoCkEd
06-09-2009, 04:14 PM
dugg!

werdd
06-09-2009, 04:17 PM
Boehner?!! ::oooooo

/me remembers yesterday when some fellow said a Boehner rep told him that he would be co-sponsoring HR 1207.

CFL delivers!

Dr.3D
06-09-2009, 04:32 PM
So how many do we need to get this through?

HOLLYWOOD
06-09-2009, 04:33 PM
Remember the movie DISCLOSURE? Look the other way for what is coming... 1 senator is much more cost effective "Too Buy" and covert to buy via these lobbyists/special interest, than buying 4.35 US representatives. I will pass in the house, but the US Senate are where the true treason against the people and country are conducted.

I'm sure this is where Robertson and many other Lobbying teams, your thieving Financials, and Wealth/Elitists, are focused right now. This has all the same wranglings of the Pharma Lobbyists and donations that KILLED:

http://crooksandliars.com/2007/05/08/senate-kills-import-drug-plan (http://crooksandliars.com/2007/05/08/senate-kills-import-drug-plan)

http://www.bloggernews.net/16604 (http://www.bloggernews.net/16604)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18530709/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18530709/)

Here's clip from a US Senator:

“Well, once again the big drug companies have proved that they are the most powerful and best financed lobby in Washington,” said Sen. David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican.

The drug import measure - which was tacked onto legislation for the overhaul of the FDA - could have saved consumers billions of dollars, its sponsors said.

And it was also done during the Clinton Cronies administration:

The Clinton administration today killed a program created by Congress to allow imports of low-cost prescription drugs. The administration said the import plan would not be safe and would not save money for consumers.
Donna E. Shalala, the secretary of health and human services, said the program, adopted by Congress with much fanfare, was severely flawed.
''These flaws,'' Dr. Shalala said, ''undermine the potential for cost savings associated with prescription drug reimportation and could pose unnecessary public health risks.''




holy shit!!!!!!!! boehner!!!!

AJ Antimony
06-09-2009, 04:36 PM
11 to go!

Dr.3D
06-09-2009, 04:42 PM
11 to go!

Thanks.

So a total of 218 is the magic number to remember.

Seems like this is going to happen, and I can see why Bernanke is worried. The cat will be out of the bag when this bill finally gets passed.

Cowlesy
06-09-2009, 04:43 PM
Bottomline is, a lot of these people are going to use their co-sponsorship to try and gain activist support from Ron Paul supporters. And that is fine! I happily support these folks in matters of the Federal Reserve.

What we do is when they come to us for help using their sponsoring of 1207 as leverage, we gladly say we can help, but only if we open a dialogue on non-interventionism and civil liberties.

Brass tacks for me --- some of these guys are getting out here with us and Ron Paul on this legislation. With the way things work in politics, they'll come back to us for help on some other matter. That is when we engage, but stick to our principles. When our principles align with that for which they're asking our assistance, we activate and build a bridge.

You know, I don't think Ron Paul would have garnered all this support if it wasn't for supporters, but also his bulletproof, teflon statesman manner. A lot of these people disagree with RP on a lot of things I am sure, but because Ron never makes it personal and always makes it about policy, they can politely disagree and come together on issues like auditing the Fed.

I can't remember the last time I heard a sitting member of Congress demean Ron Paul as a person, in fact, you hear the greatest things from both sides of the isle.

I really wish more people here would act like Ron Paul.


GOOOO HR 1207!!!

Cali4RonPaul
06-09-2009, 04:45 PM
YEAH !!!


I Called Drier my Congressman in Washington and California Today and I guess it worked!!!

Woohoo!

Rep. David Dreier (R-CA)
:)

devil21
06-09-2009, 05:31 PM
YEAH !!!


I Called Drier my Congressman in Washington and California Today and I guess it worked!!!

Woohoo!

Rep. David Dreier (R-CA)
:)

I emailed him like you asked :)

Cali4RonPaul
06-09-2009, 05:35 PM
I emailed him like you asked :)

Haha thanks! Looks like we did it. :D

qh4dotcom
06-09-2009, 05:35 PM
CFL is reporting 200 as of 6/9/09 8pm...I hope they're wrong and it's 207

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=19674

luaPnoR
06-09-2009, 05:57 PM
CFL is reporting 200 as of 6/9/09 8pm...I hope they're wrong and it's 207

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=19674

Read more closely: "Earlier in the day, we reported that HR 1207 is now up to 200 cosponsors. I'd like to correct that... by changing it to 207!!!"

Mahkato
06-09-2009, 06:22 PM
Keep digging it!

kathy88
06-09-2009, 06:28 PM
bottomline is, a lot of these people are going to use their co-sponsorship to try and gain activist support from ron paul supporters. And that is fine! I happily support these folks in matters of the federal reserve.

What we do is when they come to us for help using their sponsoring of 1207 as leverage, we gladly say we can help, but only if we open a dialogue on non-interventionism and civil liberties.

Brass tacks for me --- some of these guys are getting out here with us and ron paul on this legislation. With the way things work in politics, they'll come back to us for help on some other matter. That is when we engage, but stick to our principles. When our principles align with that for which they're asking our assistance, we activate and build a bridge.

You know, i don't think ron paul would have garnered all this support if it wasn't for supporters, but also his bulletproof, teflon statesman manner. A lot of these people disagree with rp on a lot of things i am sure, but because ron never makes it personal and always makes it about policy, they can politely disagree and come together on issues like auditing the fed.

I can't remember the last time i heard a sitting member of congress demean ron paul as a person, in fact, you hear the greatest things from both sides of the isle.

I really wish more people here would act like ron paul.


Goooo hr 1207!!!




qft

klamath
06-09-2009, 06:45 PM
Bottomline is, a lot of these people are going to use their co-sponsorship to try and gain activist support from Ron Paul supporters. And that is fine! I happily support these folks in matters of the Federal Reserve.

What we do is when they come to us for help using their sponsoring of 1207 as leverage, we gladly say we can help, but only if we open a dialogue on non-interventionism and civil liberties.

Brass tacks for me --- some of these guys are getting out here with us and Ron Paul on this legislation. With the way things work in politics, they'll come back to us for help on some other matter. That is when we engage, but stick to our principles. When our principles align with that for which they're asking our assistance, we activate and build a bridge.

You know, I don't think Ron Paul would have garnered all this support if it wasn't for supporters, but also his bulletproof, teflon statesman manner. A lot of these people disagree with RP on a lot of things I am sure, but because Ron never makes it personal and always makes it about policy, they can politely disagree and come together on issues like auditing the Fed.

I can't remember the last time I heard a sitting member of Congress demean Ron Paul as a person, in fact, you hear the greatest things from both sides of the isle.

I really wish more people here would act like Ron Paul.


GOOOO HR 1207!!!
Well said Cowlesy! Work issues, not personal fights and get more done.

anaconda
06-09-2009, 07:03 PM
This is gonna start getting real interesting...

Get ready for some fireworks.

itshappening
06-09-2009, 07:08 PM
the main problem will be Senator Shelby, is the FEDs man in the senate so we need a campaign that targets Shelby

freejack
06-09-2009, 07:29 PM
Where the heck is Gary Ackerman. I emailed him twice about this and have not received a response.

Mahkato
06-09-2009, 07:46 PM
61 diggs.

Also don't miss this one on the front page: http://digg.com/d1tNoA

tremendoustie
06-09-2009, 07:59 PM
Heads on a (proverbial) stick! Heads on a (proverbial) stick!

Mahkato
06-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Heads on a (proverbial) stick! Heads on a (proverbial) stick!

lol

ashura
06-09-2009, 08:48 PM
Question from someone ignorant of the bill process: should HR1207 continue to move forward, is there a chance it will eventually unfortunately end up being tinkered with and neutered by the statists in Congress?

tonesforjonesbones
06-09-2009, 08:56 PM
Oh this is GREAT...tones
(doin the happy dance!)

Mahkato
06-09-2009, 08:59 PM
Question from someone ignorant of the bill process: should HR1207 continue to move forward, is there a chance it will eventually unfortunately end up being tinkered with and neutered by the statists in Congress?

Regardless of what they do with it, it will help raise awareness of the Fed's evils.

Mahkato
06-09-2009, 11:01 PM
115 diggs.

RonPaulFanInGA
06-10-2009, 02:46 AM
Getting Boehner is absolutely huge.

I thought (and wrote here earlier) that I didn't think it possible to get any of the big three of Boehner, Pelosi or Frank to co-sponsor this bill. Amazing.

AuH2O
06-10-2009, 06:01 AM
A reminder people, 218 cosponsors doesn't do anything.

218 signatures on a discharge petition will bring the bill to the floor, but getting those signatures will be much more difficult than getting cosponsors, at least from Democrats. Signing a discharge petition is basically an insult to their party leadership and removes power from them, which most members are reluctant to do.

Also, some early cosponsors may not have imagined that this was going to have a chance of passing when they signed on, and especially Democrats might not have expected it to be so heavily partisan.

In sum, 218 cosponsors =/= a magic number.

Bern
06-10-2009, 06:28 AM
If a discharge petition is drafted, and a co-sponsor does not sign it, s/he is going to have to explain themselves or face the consequences for alienating a large number of voters on one of the most important issues this Congressional session will handle. Much like the reps who switched their vote on the second attempt at the stimulous bill, we will not forget.

specsaregood
06-10-2009, 06:36 AM
218 signatures on a discharge petition will bring the bill to the floor, but getting those signatures will be much more difficult than getting cosponsors, at least from Democrats. Signing a discharge petition is basically an insult to their party leadership and removes power from them, which most members are reluctant to do.

This is true; but at the same time the party leadership does not want to take the risk of being overruled/neutered either and may allow it up for a vote to avoid this situation.


Much like the reps who switched their vote on the second attempt at the stimulous bill, we will not forget.
Yes, but the real problem was the Senate originating the second bill. That is where we are going to run into all kinds shenanigans on this bill too. My prediction is that it passes the House, then the Senate neuters it and alters it to such a degree that Dr. Paul won't vote/support the final bill. Unless WE stop them that is.

AuH2O
06-10-2009, 07:30 AM
If a discharge petition is drafted, and a co-sponsor does not sign it, s/he is going to have to explain themselves or face the consequences for alienating a large number of voters on one of the most important issues this Congressional session will handle. Much like the reps who switched their vote on the second attempt at the stimulous bill, we will not forget.

Most of these democrats will think they have a better chance of reelection by not alienating their party leadership than by not alienating the monetary policy voting bloc.

The larger question is how leadership will handle this if they believe they cannot stop it. I expect to see the Democrats try to co-opt Federal Reserve Transparency for themselves by pushing Kucinich's bill forward. Otherwise they will attempt to neuter 1207, and champion its passage, thus taking credit for Auditing the Fed while not accomplishing a full audit.

Mahkato
06-10-2009, 09:31 AM
Digg C4L's new press release: http://digg.com/politics/Ron_Paul_s_Audit_the_Fed_Bill_Hits_207_Co_Sponsors OR http://bit.ly/wI7dW

And digg the original: http://digg.com/politics/207_co_sponsors_for_HR1207_Federal_Reserve_Transpa rency_Act

Mahkato
06-10-2009, 11:03 AM
215 diggs

gls
06-10-2009, 11:14 AM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31204170


Fed Would Be Shut Down If It Were Audited, Expert Says

The Federal Reserve's balance sheet is so out of whack that the central bank would be shut down if subjected to a conventional audit, Jim Grant, editor of Grant's Interest Rate Observer, told CNBC.

With $45 billion in capital and $2.1 trillion in assets, the central bank would not withstand the scrutiny normally afforded other institutions, Grant said in a live interview.

"If the Fed examiners were set upon the Fed's own documents—unlabeled documents—to pass judgment on the Fed's capacity to survive the difficulties it faces in credit, it would shut this institution down," he said. "The Fed is undercapitalized in a way that Citicorp is undercapitalized."

Grant said he would support legislation currently making its way through Congress calling for an audit of the Fed.

Moreover, he criticized the way the Fed has managed the financial crisis, saying the central bank's target rate should not be around zero.


"I think zero is the wrong rate for almost any economy," Grant said, adding the Fed has "embarked on a vast experiment in moral hazard. Interest rates are the traffic signals in a market economy, and everything's green. ... You have to wonder whether these interest rates are the right clearing rate or rather they are the imposition of a central bank."

Amid a disparity between analysts predicting there will be no rate hikes soon and the fed funds futures indicating tightening by the end of the year, Grant said he thinks the Fed indeed will begin raising rates as inflation creeps into the picture.

Fed funds futures have fully priced in as much as a half-point rise in the target rate from its current range of zero to 0.25 percent.

"If the hairs on the back of your neck stand up when there's too much unanimity of opinion, then one begins to worry about this," he said. "The Fed proverbially has been late."

Mahkato
06-10-2009, 12:00 PM
Bump.

anaconda
06-10-2009, 01:37 PM
A reminder people, 218 cosponsors doesn't do anything.

218 signatures on a discharge petition will bring the bill to the floor, but getting those signatures will be much more difficult than getting cosponsors, at least from Democrats. Signing a discharge petition is basically an insult to their party leadership and removes power from them, which most members are reluctant to do.

Also, some early cosponsors may not have imagined that this was going to have a chance of passing when they signed on, and especially Democrats might not have expected it to be so heavily partisan.

In sum, 218 cosponsors =/= a magic number.

This has been my concern all along.

Here's another possibility: Some cosponsors did so only to identify themselves to the PTB as someone to be approached to trade favors with for a "NO" vote.

A question, though.....

Ya mean if there's 218 cosponsors it can't be brought up for a vote? I thought there was some deal where it had to be brought to the floor for debate at least. I guess I need to sign up for Poli Sci 1A at the community college down the street.

torchbearer
06-10-2009, 01:39 PM
This has been my concern all along.

Here's another possibility: Some cosponsors did so only to identify themselves to the PTB as someone to be approached to trade favors with for a "NO" vote.

A question, though.....

Ya mean if there's 218 cosponsors it can't be brought up for a vote? I thought there was some deal where it had to be brought to the floor for debate at least. I guess I need to sign up for Poli Sci 1A at the community college down the street.

You need a discharge petition which requires a majority: 218.
Cosponsoring isn't the same as signing this petition- but we can find out who really wants 1207 by passing the petition to the cosponsors.
We should make this a put-up or shut-up petition.

anaconda
06-10-2009, 01:40 PM
Signing a discharge petition is basically an insult to their party leadership and removes power from them, which most members are reluctant to do.


Sounds like a MASSIVE insult and dereliction of duty for the Speaker of the House to not allow a vote on a bill that has support from the majority of Representatives. And an insult to The People that they represent!

He Who Pawns
06-10-2009, 01:41 PM
Dr Paul said 209 co-sponsors on Freedom Watch today.

anaconda
06-10-2009, 01:47 PM
The larger question is how leadership will handle this if they believe they cannot stop it. I expect to see the Democrats try to co-opt Federal Reserve Transparency for themselves by pushing Kucinich's bill forward. Otherwise they will attempt to neuter 1207, and champion its passage, thus taking credit for Auditing the Fed while not accomplishing a full audit.


This fight is inevitable and expected. This might truly be the most feared bill ever introduced.

Join The Paul Side
06-10-2009, 04:35 PM
Thanks.

So a total of 218 is the magic number to remember.

Seems like this is going to happen, and I can see why Bernanke is worried. The cat will be out of the bag when this bill finally gets passed.

This plus the investigation of the BoA purchase of Merrill Lynch has to have Bernanke trembling.