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Liberty Star
06-08-2009, 09:59 PM
Are these claims below about "Nama" acronym true?
According to following accounts reported by various sources, there were well known "torture cells" in camp run by Obama pick for Afghanistan. If it's true that this man overaw camp "nama" where brutal torture of Iraqis took place, why is Obama sending this man to Afghanistan now?




McChrystal's past is mysterious but there is little doubt that he was deeply involved in one of the worst torture outfits in Iraq, Camp "Nama", an acronym for "Nasty Ass Military Area". The key sources for what went on at Nama are a NYT story here, and a Human Rights Watch report here. Two prisoners were tortured to death in this place. It was extremely closely monitored, with records of all sorts of torture and abuse, and yet there are also extensive stories of abuse that went well outside even the torture techniques approved by Cheney and Rumsfeld.


Nama housed the "black room" - a torture cell:


The black room was 12 by 12 [feet]. It was painted black floor to ceiling. The door was black, everything was black. It had speakers in the corners, all four corners, up at the ceiling. It had a small table in one of the corners, and maybe some chairs. But usually in the black room nobody was sitting down. It was standing, stress positions, and so forth. The table would be for the boom box and the computer. We patched it into the speakers and made the noise and stuff. Most of the harsh interrogations were in that room. . . . Sleep deprivation, environmental controls, hot and cold, water.


There was also a yard for freezing and beating naked prisoners:


He was stripped naked, put in the mud and sprayed with the hose, with very cold hoses, in February. At night it was very cold. They sprayed the cold hose and he was completely naked in the mud, you know, and everything. [Then] he was taken out of the mud and put next to an air conditioner. It was extremely cold, freezing, and he was put back in the mud and sprayed. This happened all night. Everybody knew about it. People walked in, the sergeant major and so forth, everybody knew what was going on, and I was just one of them, kind of walking back and forth seeing [that] this is how they do things.



http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/05/who-is-stanley-mcchrystal.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Stanley+McChrystal+nama&btnG=Search

Liberty Star
06-08-2009, 10:05 PM
Apparently, this Obama pick was also involved in Tillman affair:



Tillman's parents want general's record reviewed

5/13/2009

http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2009/05/13/tillmanx.jpg

WASHINGTON (AP) — The parents of slain Army Ranger and NFL star Pat Tillman voiced concerns Tuesday that the general who played a role in mischaracterizing his death could be put in charge of military operations in Afghanistan.
In a brief interview with The Associated Press, Pat Tillman Sr. accused Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal of covering up the circumstances of the 2004 slaying.

"I do believe that guy participated in a falsified homicide investigation," Pat Tillman Sr. said.



http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2009-05-13-tillman-mcchrystal-parents_N.htm