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RonPaulR3VOLUTION
06-07-2009, 12:50 PM
NOTE: That is not the actual title of the article.

OBAMA Considering - Covering Up Torture By Permitting Detainees To Plead Guilty & Be Executed Updated at 11:10 AM

Covering Up Torture By Coercing Guilty Pleas
by davidseth
To Permit Detainees To Plead Guilty & Be Executed
Sat Jun 06, 2009 at 07:32:17 AM PDT


According to the New York Times, the Obama Administration may modify the military commission rules to permit require have Gitmo prisoners plead guilty and be executed:

The Obama administration is considering a change in the law for the military commissions at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, that would clear the way for detainees facing the death penalty to plead guilty without a full trial.

The provision could permit military prosecutors to avoid airing the details of brutal interrogation techniques. It could also allow the five detainees who have been charged with the Sept. 11 attacks to achieve their stated goal of pleading guilty to gain what they have called martyrdom.

The proposal, in a draft of legislation that would be submitted to Congress, has not been publicly disclosed. It was circulated to officials under restrictions requiring secrecy. People who have read or been briefed on it said it had been presented to Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates by an administration task force on detention.

The proposal would ease what has come to be recognized as the government’s difficult task of prosecuting men who have confessed to terrorism but whose cases present challenges. Much of the evidence against the men accused in the Sept. 11 case, as well as against other detainees, is believed to have come from confessions they gave during intense interrogations at secret C.I.A. prisons. In any proceeding, the reliability of those statements would be challenged, making trials difficult and drawing new political pressure over detainee treatment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/06/us/politics/06gitmo.html?_r=1&hp

http://dreamantilles.blogspot.com/2009/06/covering-up-torture-by-coercing-guilty.html

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It looks like Obama is really starting to terrify some Democrats.

http://tinyurl.com/DemForumTortureCoverup

1. If this happens, I am through with Obama.
No vote from me ever again and I will ACTIVELY campaign for someone else.

10. ditto on that! nt

111. F*** that piece of shit.
F*** all these Quisling Dems (and I include Obama in that assessment).
Not "Change I can believe it".
You can belittle it all you like but I am thoroughly sick of broken campaign promises and the cover up of prior crimes. They are complicit. So f*** them.

138. Amen.

158. he is as corrupt as all of them,
so he can go f*** himself.
your constant defense of the indefensible is a joke.

59. What a coincidence! That's just what Cheney wants.
Cheney: Death only option for some detainees if Gitmo closed
http://tinyurl.com/CheneyDeathOnlyDetaineeOption
I bet Bush feels the same way. Not that that would be a coincidence.

JoshLowry
06-07-2009, 01:23 PM
They say the prosecutors should be required to present evidence proving that anyone who is to be executed was actually guilty of the crimes charged.

Shouldn't the same evidence be required for any kind of punishment?

Dr.3D
06-07-2009, 01:37 PM
So will there be any evidence or will those they feel should be put to death, just be put to death and the official story be, 'they decided to be put to death so they could be a martyrs'?

Omphfullas Zamboni
06-07-2009, 01:38 PM
Interesting article.