City Council member David Snyder Beat by police at City council meeting

[V4Vendetta]

City Council member David Snyder Beat by police at City council meeting
VIDEO BELOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZATt4tM74

The chair Said he could speak, then the chair set a time limit, illegally, ignoring the citys own code of *no time limit*
When David Protested, the chair told the cops to take him "out"
He stood up, picked up his things, and right when was passing the threshold to the lobby, the big NAZI cop, ran, and tackled him,. Busting up his face and camera.

Then while he's on the ground, the cop Jack Tiller of the Roseland police dept. in Indianna, repeatedly punched him in the head!

http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/9793807.html


CONTACT INFO CAN BE FOUND HERE
http://www.in.gov/ofbci/volunteer/StJoseph.html



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZATt4tM74

[BarryDonegan]

im really confused as to what happened there. these guys seemed to know each other very well, and it seemed this was a vendetta of some kind.

[Matt Collins]

LOL.... this is almost funny... :D

I'd like to see more fist fights in Congress. Or perhaps a duel or two like the old days. Those who practice their 2nd Amendment skills regularly would have an advantage thus weeding out the sissies :D

[Trassin]

Wow, I can't believe some of these police videos that have been showing up lately.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

City Council member David Snyder Beat by police at City council meeting
VIDEO BELOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZATt4tM74

The chair Said he could speak, then the chair set a time limit, illegally, ignoring the citys own code of *no time limit*
When David Protested, the chair told the cops to take him "out"
He stood up, picked up his things, and right when was passing the threshold to the lobby, the big NAZI cop, ran, and tackled him,. Busting up his face and camera.

Then while he's on the ground, the cop Jack Tiller of the Roseland police dept. in Indianna, repeatedly punched him in the head!

http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/9793807.html


CONTACT INFO CAN BE FOUND HERE
http://www.in.gov/ofbci/volunteer/StJoseph.html



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZATt4tM74

The cop should be fired and the other councilman (mayor?) should be removed from office

[Thomas_Paine]

I don't understand the history that these 2 guys have, it would be immensely helpful to know. Obviously this is yet another example of Cops gone wild. Disgusting tyrants.

[hells_unicorn]

im really confused as to what happened there. these guys seemed to know each other very well, and it seemed this was a vendetta of some kind.

It was a vendetta, the councilman who was beat up was investigating the police officer who beat him on charges of corruption. The entire locality is basically a "Boss Hog" style operation with crooked cops and a crooked mayor. Just like in the UF tasering incident, the onlookers were either inactive or cheering on the pigs. It's hard to be patriotic these days. :mad:

[JosephTheLibertarian]

The victim should bethe new mayor :p

[Matt Collins]

the councilman who was beat up was investigating the police officer who beat him on charges of corruption. I can't imagine :rolleyes:

[SJohnsson]

thats fucking GARBAGE

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I'm surprised the counciman was so... nonshalent about the whole thing. He should've kept screaming "POLICE BRUTALITY...POLICE BRUTALITY"

[BarryDonegan]

hells_unicorn, how do you know that background info, i'd be pumped to see some sources if you knew of some. we need to back this guy if hes in trouble fighting corruption.

[hells_unicorn]

hells_unicorn, how do you know that background info, i'd be pumped to see some sources if you knew of some. we need to back this guy if hes in trouble fighting corruption.

David Snyder was on Alex Jones' show today for an interview and he gave a lengthy description of what's going on in that locality. Apparently they had recently passed an unconstitutional law forbidding cameras to record the proceedings in the council chambers. Snyder's wife was arrested for bring a camera into the proceedings a few months back and the same officer arrested her, and after cuffing her, raised her arms above her head, tearing her rotator cuff in her right shoulder.

I think there is an article about it on www.prisonplanet.com, or you can listen to the continuous feed of the show on www.infowars.com

[American]

Thats actually the long version of the video and enjoy it while you can it will be taken down in the morning for copyright of the news channel it belongs to.

I had posted it once already (the shorter version) lasted maybe 12 hours.

[skiingff]

David Snyder is a big-time scumbag and loser that doesn't like to pay child support. It's hard to feel sorry for him. His ex-wife is dealing with a disabled 19-year-old son that takes up all her time and money. He owes child support for at least 2 other children. Finally, when the judge is ready to lay down the law on Snyder (jailtime), somehow he comes up with $10,000 and makes a child support payment. Unbelievable!

I can also see why the police force isn't too happy with Snyder. The police get paid minimum wage, and Snyder wants to eliminate the entire police department.

I'm not justifying the officer's actions, I'm just pointing out there is more than one side to every issue and maybe people should look at the facts before being judgmental. None of us saw the whole incident go down, and from the footage that exists it looks pretty bad. But I'll let an independent investigation of the incident decide rather than acting as judge and jury because of what I saw on YouTube.

[hells_unicorn]

David Snyder is a big-time scumbag and loser that doesn't like to pay child support. It's hard to feel sorry for him. His ex-wife is dealing with a disabled 19-year-old son that takes up all her time and money. He owes child support for at least 2 other children. Finally, when the judge is ready to lay down the law on Snyder (jailtime), somehow he comes up with $10,000 and makes a child support payment. Unbelievable!

I can also see why the police force isn't too happy with Snyder. The police get paid minimum wage, and Snyder wants to eliminate the entire police department.

I'm not justifying the officer's actions, I'm just pointing out there is more than one side to every issue and maybe people should look at the facts before being judgmental. None of us saw the whole incident go down, and from the footage that exists it looks pretty bad. But I'll let an independent investigation of the incident decide rather than acting as judge and jury because of what I saw on YouTube.

Where did you get all of this from?

As for eliminating the entire police department, if this video is any indication of how they do things, I'd sign on to that idea if I lived in that town.

[EvanVolm]

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[skiingff]

I don't know what else there is to see. We saw pretty much everything. He wasn't causing a riot or anything, he was walking out peacefully. You can see in the reflection that the officer pushes him into the door. Nothing the officer did was right.

Oh I forgot, you've been thru the police academy and know it all :rolleyes:

[V4Vendetta]

David Snyder is a big-time scumbag and loser that doesn't like to pay child support. It's hard to feel sorry for him. His ex-wife is dealing with a disabled 19-year-old son that takes up all her time and money. He owes child support for at least 2 other children. Finally, when the judge is ready to lay down the law on Snyder (jailtime), somehow he comes up with $10,000 and makes a child support payment. Unbelievable!

I can also see why the police force isn't too happy with Snyder. The police get paid minimum wage, and Snyder wants to eliminate the entire police department.

I'm not justifying the officer's actions, I'm just pointing out there is more than one side to every issue and maybe people should look at the facts before being judgmental. None of us saw the whole incident go down, and from the footage that exists it looks pretty bad. But I'll let an independent investigation of the incident decide rather than acting as judge and jury because of what I saw on YouTube.


I do not deny that.
I was talking about the actions on the city council and the NAZI cop.
I don't give a shit about the background, There was no need for what happened. especially on a city councilmen, that was obeying the law.

[Ridiculous]

David Snyder is a big-time scumbag and loser that doesn't like to pay child support. It's hard to feel sorry for him. His ex-wife is dealing with a disabled 19-year-old son that takes up all her time and money. He owes child support for at least 2 other children. Finally, when the judge is ready to lay down the law on Snyder (jailtime), somehow he comes up with $10,000 and makes a child support payment. Unbelievable!

I can also see why the police force isn't too happy with Snyder. The police get paid minimum wage, and Snyder wants to eliminate the entire police department.

I'm not justifying the officer's actions, I'm just pointing out there is more than one side to every issue and maybe people should look at the facts before being judgmental. None of us saw the whole incident go down, and from the footage that exists it looks pretty bad. But I'll let an independent investigation of the incident decide rather than acting as judge and jury because of what I saw on YouTube.

Regardless of the guy's history...

Even if the guy took a swing at the cops...

the video shows a cop straddling him, while he is face down and cuffed, taking swings at his head.

Once you cuff someone, you are 100% responsible fore their wellbeing...

There is no need, EVER, for a cop to hit someone like that while they are face down like that. PERIOD. I mean, you can even see the other cop tapping him on the back because he needs to lay off.

I personaly have had a federal law enforcement job. If I did that I would be in SERIOUS trouble.

[hells_unicorn]

Oh I forgot, you've been thru the police academy and know it all :rolleyes:

And which academy did you graduate from smart ass?

[EvanVolm]

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[skiingff]

Where did you get all of this from?

http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/8837722.html
http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/9323947.html
http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/9229911.html

...And from reading through the comments of the locals... I'd say most of them despise this guy because of the scum he is.

Even if everyone in the town despises him... that has nothing to do with the complaint of excessive force.

Again, let the independent investigators investigate it... that's their job.

I can guarantee it will be investigated. I don't see what this has to do with Ron Paul, but nonetheless I don't believe the anti-police one-sidedness is fair either.

AT LEAST tell people the whole story :rolleyes:

[Sematary]

We are witnessing the fall of the republic right before our eyes, on video. It saddens me immensely.

[EvanVolm]

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[hells_unicorn]

http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/8837722.html
http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/9323947.html
http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/9229911.html

...And from reading through the comments of the locals... I'd say most of them despise this guy because of the scum he is.

Even if everyone in the town despises him... that has nothing to do with the complaint of excessive force.

Again, let the independent investigators investigate it... that's their job.

I can guarantee it will be investigated. I don't see what this has to do with Ron Paul, but nonetheless I don't believe the anti-police one-sidedness is fair either.

AT LEAST tell people the whole story :rolleyes:

In small localities such as this one, as well as the country at large, independent investigations are like Santa Claus, they don't exist. I've grown ever distrustful of the MSM, and these links you've provided look more like typical disinfo than actual news. Furthermore, if these events are being properly reported by the media, this does not and will not excuse what was on the video, I don't care if the guy was a Klan member.

My days of giving policemen the benefit of the doubt ended when I saw the shit they were doing to people in North Philadelphia, and in rural areas it hasn't been all that different.

[skiingff]

I was going to post this story a day or 2 ago, but I then thought the exact same thing: Off-topic. But, so was that Kerry incident, so who knows....Hope things turn out fair.

I'm just disappointed by the people tossing the words "Nazi," "Pig," etc. around. Calling ANYONE a "Nazi" is some pretty heavy stuff, especially when you don't know them. Obviously these two have personal problems. Whatever. This has nothing to do with 99.9% of the law enforcements officers at every level of government who are hard working and dedicated individuals. This is an isolated incident constituting a personal vendetta between two individuals, and should NOT negatively reflect on all cops in general or indicate some downward trend.

The trend is quite the opposite: complaints against officers are down, especially as officers become more highly educated with Police Departments requiring their hires to have college degrees. So to insinuate otherwise is unfair and ludicrous. This incident involves one officer who's going through who-the-hell-knows-what in his life. That's not a justification. That's a statement saying unless you've walked in his shoes... being paid $6 an hour... and you haven't gotten paid for almost a month, and they're gonna get rid of your job, and you have family problems, financial problems, and other problems... whatever... unless you know what the personal issue here is... don't judge "AMERICA IS DOOMED. ALL COPS ARE ON TIRADES. DOOMED!!!"

Try to be objective and not let your anti-police biases get the best of you. If you don't like the cops, next time you're in trouble call a crack dealer.

[Ridiculous]

Calling ANYONE a "Nazi" is some pretty heavy stuff, especially when you don't know them.

According to the laws of the internets this thread is officially now dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

[trispear]

All Godwin's law says is "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Anyway, skiingff, we can see with our own 2 eyes what happened - I don't need an independent investigation to think for me, thanks. The cop is abusing his power, which is apparent. Also check out the actions in the reflection in the hallway. There isn't much to exonerate this.

Regardless of David Snyder's history. Abusive people don't belong in power period.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

David Snyder is a big-time scumbag and loser that doesn't like to pay child support. It's hard to feel sorry for him. His ex-wife is dealing with a disabled 19-year-old son that takes up all her time and money. He owes child support for at least 2 other children. Finally, when the judge is ready to lay down the law on Snyder (jailtime), somehow he comes up with $10,000 and makes a child support payment. Unbelievable!

I can also see why the police force isn't too happy with Snyder. The police get paid minimum wage, and Snyder wants to eliminate the entire police department.

I'm not justifying the officer's actions, I'm just pointing out there is more than one side to every issue and maybe people should look at the facts before being judgmental. None of us saw the whole incident go down, and from the footage that exists it looks pretty bad. But I'll let an independent investigation of the incident decide rather than acting as judge and jury because of what I saw on YouTube.

That doesn't give the officer the right to beat on him.

[Ridiculous]

All Godwin's law says is "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."



"There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress."

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Godwin%27s_law

[ronpaulfan]

Again, let the independent investigators investigate it... that's their job.


NO!!!!! I'm SICK of hearing that.

I'm SICK of waiting for an investigation to explain to me what I SAW WITH MY OWN EYES.

The video camera captured EVERYTHING needed.

Two men at a town meeting had a disagreement.

One man ordered the other one out and he was escorted by police.

THEN THE POLICE OFFICER PROCEEDED TO BEATING THE MAN.

That is what we WITNESSED with that video and none of us need to wait for an investigation to KNOW WHAT WE SAW.

(apologies for the caps, I am not happy after seeing that video. I will be even more unhappy if YouTube removes it).

[brandon]

NO!!!!! I'm SICK of hearing that.

I'm SICK of waiting for an investigation to explain to me what I SAW WITH MY OWN EYES.

The video camera captured EVERYTHING needed.

Two men at a town meeting had a disagreement.

One man ordered the other one out and he was escorted by police.

THEN THE POLICE OFFICER PROCEEDED TO BEATING THE MAN.

That is what we WITNESSED with that video and none of us need to wait for an investigation to KNOW WHAT WE SAW.

(apologies for the caps, I am not happy after seeing that video. I will be even more unhappy if YouTube removes it).

Agreed 100%

That police officer need to be chaged with Assault ASAP. He should he jailed for the maximum time in whatever state that is, and never be aloud to work in law enforcement again. The other cop needs to be charged with criminal conspiracy.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

...and the mayor should be removed from office.

[ronpaulfan]

...and the mayor should be removed from office.

I don't give an F about the mayor. Did the mayor order the cop to beat that guy? NO. The cop is at fault and MUST be fired IMMEDIATELY.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I don't give an F about the mayor. Did the mayor order the cop to beat that guy? NO. The cop is at fault and MUST be fired IMMEDIATELY.

Maybe you didn't read the summary clearly.

[ronpaulfan]

Maybe you didn't read the summary clearly.

The summary is irrelevant. All that matters is the video evidence and that the officer is immediately fired. Two old people fighting and one kicking the other one out is FINE. An officer of the law beating down a city councilman with NO PROVOCATION is UNACCEPTABLE. I know there are people that are going to be posting things to distract from this fact (and I will pounce on them).

[JosephTheLibertarian]

The summary is irrelevant. All that matters is the video evidence and that the officer is immediately fired. Two old people fighting and one kicking the other one out is FINE. An officer of the law beating down a city councilman with NO PROVOCATION is UNACCEPTABLE. I know there are people that are going to be posting things to distract from this fact (and I will pounce on them).

You didn't see the mayor sic the cops on him?

[ronpaulfan]

You didn't see the mayor sic the cops on him?

The mayor ordered the cops to escort him out. The mayor never say "tackle him and kick the S out of him".

By the way, sorry for the aggressive post. I'm just angry at the video.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

The mayor ordered the cops to escort him out. The mayor never say "tackle him and kick the S out of him".

By the way, sorry for the aggressive post. I'm just angry at the video.

Yes, but did he have the authority to do that? And to escort him out? He didn't do anything wrong. I hear that the mayor is involved in corruption.

[ronpaulfan]

Yes, but did he have the authority to do that? And to escort him out? He didn't do anything wrong. I hear that the mayor is involved in corruption.

Who cares. Again, the focus is the BEATDOWN and not the mayor. You're free to do whatever you feel like but come on. *turns your head away from the mayor and toward the massive beating*

[JosephTheLibertarian]

What did he say to the cop right before the cop went after him? hmmm. You can see him turn back and say something to the cop, but I'm not sure what he said. You can see him hit him outside, and then the cop said "you sure you didn't just trip and fall?" LOL. They really hate that guy, I wonder why.

[DXDoug]

yes very strange and retarted lol . Made no since to me

[leipo]

Here is the same video but with officer Tiller explaining his actions at the end..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmkYnJYZaQU

"did he hit you?" "yes, he did. So, i gotta go"

Yeah, right.

[ronpaulfan]

The video was just removed from YouTube. Welcome to fascism everyone!

[ronpaulfan]

My guess is the blatant media blackout of this savage beating won't last forever. But by the time the media covers it, so much time will have passed that most people won't care anymore.

[ronpaulfan]

For the record. After a full day of spamming YouTube about this incident with a ton of other outraged people, the video got over 2500 views and had 7 honors (including 9th highest rating for a news video today). We new it would be pulled off though. Another victory for the media goonsquad.

[devil21]

This police brutality on video shit lately is really pissing me off.

I dont care how much of an asshole the guy is IT DOES NOT GIVE ANYONE THE RIGHT TO ASSAULT HIM! Especially a hired thug behind a badge. The rule of law in this country regarding assault is very clear. Words are *never* a reason to physically harm anyone. That skinhead Butterbean looking cop better get fired, sued and thrown in jail. He knew his career was done when he slinked off camera afterward like a coward. Karma will catch up with you fatboy.

[dircha]

David Snyder is a big-time scumbag and loser that doesn't like to pay child support. It's hard to feel sorry for him. His ex-wife is dealing with a disabled 19-year-old son that takes up all her time and money. He owes child support for at least 2 other children. Finally, when the judge is ready to lay down the law on Snyder (jailtime), somehow he comes up with $10,000 and makes a child support payment. Unbelievable!

I can also see why the police force isn't too happy with Snyder. The police get paid minimum wage, and Snyder wants to eliminate the entire police department.

I'm not justifying the officer's actions, I'm just pointing out there is more than one side to every issue and maybe people should look at the facts before being judgmental. None of us saw the whole incident go down, and from the footage that exists it looks pretty bad. But I'll let an independent investigation of the incident decide rather than acting as judge and jury because of what I saw on YouTube.

You're right, you aren't very effectively justifying the officers actions, but doing so is certainly the undertone of your post. I think you'll find that this is not acceptable here, and it touches a real nerve with me.

Rather than pointing out facts that would lead us to believe the situation is other than it appears, you are attempting to persuade us not to feel appalled to see this man, Mr. Snyder, violently brutalized by a police officer because, you suggest, he is somehow less due the protection of our Constitution because of his unsavory personal marital problems, and because of his choice to exercise his Constitutional right to controversial political speech with which you happen to disagree.

This is wrong. This is like blaming a rape victim because, "she was asking for it." Just wrong.

I have family who serve on the force, and actions such as those of the violent and out of control officer seen here bring dishonor to the profession and all that it stands for.

The test of an officer is to keep his calm and to respond justly and proportionately, no matter what is said to him, no matter how much he personally dislikes someone. We appoint officers to protect and serve their communities, authorize them to use deadly force, and put life and death situations in their hands. They are given great power, and where there is great power there must be great expectations, great accountability, and great repercussions for failure.

Any man or woman who is not up to the task, or is not willing to do it for the modest salary often offered, has no business in the profession.

[ronpaulfan]

You're right, you aren't very effectively justifying the officers actions, but doing so is certainly the undertone of your post. I think you'll find that this is not acceptable here, and it touches a real nerve with me.

Rather than pointing out facts that would lead us to believe the situation is other than it appears, you are attempting to persuade us not to feel appalled to see this man, Mr. Snyder, violently brutalized by a police officer because, you suggest, he is somehow less due the protection of our Constitution because of his unsavory personal marital problems, and because of his choice to exercise his Constitutional right to controversial political speech with which you happen to disagree.

This is wrong. This is like blaming a rape victim because, "she was asking for it." Just wrong.

I have family who serve on the force, and actions such as those of the violent and out of control officer seen here bring dishonor to the profession and all that it stands for.

The test of an officer is to keep his calm and to respond justly and proportionately, no matter what is said to him, no matter how much he personally dislikes someone. We appoint officers to protect and serve their communities, authorize them to use deadly force, and put life and death situations in their hands. They are given great power, and where there is great power there must be great expectations, great accountability, and great repercussions for failure.

Any man or woman who is not up to the task, or is not willing to do it for the modest salary often offered, has no business in the profession.

My guess is he's a shrill/ghost/disinfoguy. After 10+ hours of spamming YouTube about this incident, I came accross a ton of them. They immediately ask "Whats the background on this Synder guy" and "Is Synder a jerk?". Some even had the nerve to tell me I should wait for an independant investigation (so they could explain-away what I had just witnessed in the video).

[RP4ME]

LOL.... this is almost funny... :D

I'd like to see more fist fights in Congress. Or perhaps a duel or two like the old days. Those who practice their 2nd Amendment skills regularly would have an advantage thus weeding out the sissies :D

Om gosh - me too! I love watching Soth American congresses duke it out - its becomes atotal mob secene - its hysteraicl - they are all wound up form losing theri areas FUUUUtTTTBOOOLLL match they take care a bidness in teh govt buildings! its classicc!

[LinuxUser269]

NO!!!!! I'm SICK of hearing that.

I'm SICK of waiting for an investigation to explain to me what I SAW WITH MY OWN EYES.

The video camera captured EVERYTHING needed.

Two men at a town meeting had a disagreement.

One man ordered the other one out and he was escorted by police.

THEN THE POLICE OFFICER PROCEEDED TO BEATING THE MAN.

That is what we WITNESSED with that video and none of us need to wait for an investigation to KNOW WHAT WE SAW.

(apologies for the caps, I am not happy after seeing that video. I will be even more unhappy if YouTube removes it).

youtube removes it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz4tuLw__-4

[ronpaulfan]

youtube removes it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz4tuLw__-4

I got royally pissed and made this video. Hopefully it will work:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Md3hsIo3NWY

[Hurricane Bruiser]

I don't need an "independent" investigation to determine what I saw. The police officer should be criminally charged for assault and whatever else can be dug up. Make him spend some time in Jail for this and fire him from the police force or at least suspend without pay for at least a couple months.