RON PAUL & DENNIS KUCHINICH Cross-party Ticket would be AWESOME!

[Falseflagop]

RON PAUl has a huge following and Dennis is beloved by the dems sure they are different but they are together on the WAR!


These two guys would kickass! I listened to Thom Hartman one day and he did a 10 minute poll of callers no screener involved the call went right to him and once on the air you had to name the candidate you would vote for and in 10 min (remember this is a DEM show) 60% selected yes Dennis over the rest! No reps were voted for except 1 RP.


This ticket would lure reps, independents adn DEMS and all the anti-war people which are a ton !! No way these two guys would lose!!

They could run under that new party (That will choose one rep and one dem) I forgot the name. This is a very powerful scary ticket the elite would FEAR!

[BuddyRey]

I completely agree! It may be too good to be true, but a Paul/Kucinich ticket would revolutionize political thought in this country, and change the course of history for the better.

[derdy]

So long as Dennis is VP where he can't do any of damage to our country.

[Lord Xar]

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

Dennis is a communist who think spanish should be our official 2nd language.

PHUK that guy. The DUDE IS AS FAR LEFT AS YOU CAN GET!
He is honest, so what - that is where the similiarites end. That dude will tax the shit out of you and turn this country upside down.

You have a small government man in Ron Paul, and a socialist big government man as a VP -- huh? Those two are miles apart.

First off, you would get FAR LEFT DEMS, Socialist independents and VERY FEW REPUBLICANS. That ticket would be a disaster!

[slantedview]

I've had some Kucinich supporters tell me the same thing.

[BuddyRey]

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

Dennis is a communist who think spanish should be our official 2nd language.

He is in syria right now. PHUK that guy.

You have a small government man in Ron Paul, and a socialist big government man as a VP -- huh? Those two are miles apart.

hahhaha.. If that ever happened, I'd say buh-by to Ron!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I never have to worry, cause that would NEVER HAPPEN!

You know that the two are friends, right? I don't think Dr. Paul would knowingly befriend a Communist.

[derdy]

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

Dennis is a communist who think spanish should be our official 2nd language.

PHUK that guy. The DUDE IS AS FAR LEFT AS YOU CAN GET!

You have a small government man in Ron Paul, and a socialist big government man as a VP -- huh? Those two are miles apart.

hahhaha.. If that ever happened, I'd say buh-by to Ron!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I never have to worry, cause that would NEVER HAPPEN!

The Vice President doesn't have any power. He gets to attend meetings and take over if Ron Paul dies... Oh wait, you're right! Eff that!

[Falseflagop]

RP would be the PRES!!


Step back and imagine the OUTPOUR of REP & DEM running for a cause the CONSTITUTION!! And to end the WAR!


They both get along! This would be awesome! WHo else for RON's VP???????????????????????????? A known guy that the DEMS love is Dennis !

[Dustancostine]

Just because they are friends doesn't mean they believe the same things.

If Paul ran with Kucinich he would probably lose my support.

The war is not the only thing that matters.

[derdy]

RP would be the PRES!!


Step back and imagine the OUTPOUR of REP & DEM running for a cause the CONSTITUTION!! And to end the WAR!


They both get along! This would be awesome! WHo else for RON's VP???????????????????????????? A known guy that the DEMS love is Dennis !

Yeah, but if something happened to Paul then he would be President. Kucinich doesn't seem to grasp the Constitution. This guy wants to ban handguns to civilians yet the police get to keep theirs. He wants federal single-payer healthcare. If he can't figure out that those powers aren't authorized to the Congress via the Constitution, the he certainly will have no problem doing anything else he sees fit as President.

[Lord Xar]

Just because they are friends doesn't mean they believe the same things.

If Paul ran with Kucinich he would probably lose my support.

The war is not the only thing that matters.

Yeah. I gotta laugh. War is ONE issue. Kucinich would socialize this whole country, have complete open borders.... They both support the constitution, but what does that matter if their interpretations are different?

I am with you, if that ever happened, I'd say buh-bye to Ron.

I have friends who are communists but I would NEVER EVER go in business or go political with them. Friends is one thing, trying to get shit done together is another.

THESE TWO ARE SOOOOO FAR APART!! I mean, where does this even come from?

hahahha..

A free-market candidate with a socialist candidate... uhmm, yeah... hahahhha

[K1RBY]

what the hell does that guy have to do with the platform of liberty?

so, he wants outa the war in iraq - big deal..so do all of the leftist do nothing hippies that hate capitalism & want the government to punish the rich.

that fool & everything he stands for is disgusting.

[LibertyEagle]

Thank you, Lord Xar. :)

[Lord Xar]

what the hell does that guy have to do with the platform of liberty?

so, he wants outa the war in iraq - big deal..so do all of the leftist do nothing hippies that hate capitalism & want the government to punish the rich.

that fool & everything he stands for is disgusting.

That is my feelings. This guy is NOT ABOUT LIBERTY. He is honest, but he is a communist/socialist honest guy.. hahahaha.

Ron And Dennis are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FAR APART, I don't get it. I think Dennis is so wrong from America.

[Falseflagop]

You are not wrong I am just talking about winning! Together they would be a force.Gun rights are a right and RON is for gun ownership! Furthermore its time for RON to step up in these debates and start educating the sheep on the inflationary tax (the corrupt FED) in baby talk because people are clueless to this and it effects them daily!! Its time RON discuss the corrupt FED in the open!

[BuddyRey]

Kucinich is really more of a social-democrat. To call him a Communist would be like calling Dr. Paul an Anarchist. There's a little more nuance to these men than these labels, which wrongly connote extremist viewpoints.

[jpa]

This is a really bad idea that keeps popping up.

Somebody kill it.

1) Kucinich would bring the campaign down
2) Kucinich is not beloved by dems.
3) Kucinich is a socialist

[cjhowe]

That is my feelings. This guy is NOT ABOUT LIBERTY. He is honest, but he is a communist/socialist honest guy.. hahahaha.

Ron And Dennis are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FAR APART, I don't get it. I think Dennis is so wrong from America.

Wow Xar, we agree on two things in the same week...twilight zone experience.

[hornet]

one thing completely unacceptable about kuchinich, 2 dem debates ago he was the only dem to answer the question.....do you support reparations for slavery?.....with the answer 'yes'.....i would not ever support such nonsense.....and i'm positive neither would the majority

[Falseflagop]

Yes they are far apart but to bring a nation together we need people from two different spectrums. We believe in RON and the DEms believe in Dennis and together they can compromise and get alot done plus together they would destroy a Clinton/Obama ticket & a Guilani/Thompson ticket just as an example. RP's VP would be who? Why not try a cross-party ticket because many DEMS that like RP will not vote for him just because he is a REP. But most RP supporters would vote for RRP regardless if DENNIS runs with him or not!

Bring those aisle together lets bond this nation back to being together! These crooks have done to much damage!

[jpa]

Yes they are far apart but to bring a nation together we need people from two different spectrums. We believe in RON and the DEms believe in Dennis and together they can compromise and get alot done plus together they would destroy a Clinton/Obama ticket & a Guilani/Thompson ticket just as an example. RP's VP would be who? Why not try a cross-party ticket because many DEMS that like RP will not vote for him just because he is a REP. But most RP supporters would vote for RRP regardless if DENNIS runs with him or not!

Bring those aisle together lets bond this nation back to being together! These crooks have done to much damage!

News Alert! Ron Paul is not running a 3rd party campaign. If he doesn't win the Republican nomination, he is going to stop.

[BuddyRey]

Yes they are far apart but to bring a nation together we need people from two different spectrums. We believe in RON and the DEms believe in Dennis and together they can compromise and get alot done plus together they would destroy a Clinton/Obama ticket & a Guilani/Thompson ticket just as an example. RP's VP would be who? Why not try a cross-party ticket because many DEMS that like RP will not vote for him just because he is a REP. But most RP supporters would vote for RRP regardless if DENNIS runs with him or not!

Bring those aisle together lets bond this nation back to being together! These crooks have done to much damage!

Even die-hard free-market capitalists must realize that this is true. The Republican Party's reputation has been so debased in recent years that it's becoming increasingly hard for a candidate like Dr. Paul to maintain any credibility as a Republican, even with his extremely popular views. Maybe I can see this from a slightly closer perspective since I'm a bit of a left-winger myself, but you cannot deny that a Paul/Kucinich ticket would destroy pretty much anything the paid-off corporate interests could ever put up against it.

[Falseflagop]

Agreed a great unstoppable ticket.


As to RP running as a 3rd party the REPS are trying and doing their best to knock RP out, but this new party runing (I believe its the Law & Order guy Sam Waterson formed it) will choose 1 REP and 1 DEM and I beieve they are setup nationally on every ballot so RP has a cahnce! Time to take the crooks down RP!

[Bloody Holly]

What about Chris Dodd? He's against the war and supports the constitution.

[singapore_sling]

I instantly disregard any statements made by those who think a "PAUL/Kucinich ticket would be awesome!!!11"

[RP4ME]

The Vice President doesn't have any power. He gets to attend meetings and take over if Ron Paul dies... Oh wait, you're right! Eff that!

Exactly ! No WAY!!!!

[ksuguy]

Kucinich is a commie bastard. If he was on the ticket with Ron Paul, I would probably have to go elsewhere even as much as I like Ron.

I know you people that came from the left wing side of things like him due to his opposition to the war, but he is all about big government and meddling in the lives of individual Americans.

[jpa]

Agreed a great unstoppable ticket.


As to RP running as a 3rd party the REPS are trying and doing their best to knock RP out, but this new party runing (I believe its the Law & Order guy Sam Waterson formed it) will choose 1 REP and 1 DEM and I beieve they are setup nationally on every ballot so RP has a cahnce! Time to take the crooks down RP!

What part of Dr. Paul stated he is not running a 3rd party campaign did you not understand?

The party you are talking about is Unity08, and they don't have ballots on 50 states. The only party that is on ~48 is the Libretarian Party.

[BuddyRey]

What about Chris Dodd? He's against the war and supports the constitution.

I have a bit of a bias against Chris Dodd. To me he comes off as kind of a tool, but I could be wrong. He's in the CFR though, and that always sets off alarm bells in my mind.

[ctb619]

This debate is pointless....RP won't pick Kucinich as his running mate, period....no use getting worked up about it either way

[Bloody Holly]

I have a bit of a bias against Chris Dodd. To me he comes off as kind of a tool, but I could be wrong. He's in the CFR though, and that always sets off alarm bells in my mind.

He could be two-faced and perhaps just trying to steal Ron Paul's thunder (shrugs). Sometimes it seems like people are jealous of Ron Paul's support even though other candidates get alot of mainstream time but they are full of shit anyway...they know it so they get jealous and try to fakely incorporate his individualistic approach into their own platform.

Imitation sometimes is the sincerest form of flattery.

[V-rod]

This thread symbolizes how incompetent and corrupt our government representatives are. We have only a handful of honest people who would defend the constitution. They should bring together these people, far left, far right, and moderate and create their own political party, The Honesty Party.

[ctb619]

This thread symbolizes how incompetent and corrupt our government representatives are. We have only a handful of honest people who would defend the constitution. They should bring together these people, far left, far right, and moderate and create their own political party, The Honesty Party.

What would the party platform be?

[Karsten]

If there is a cross ticket I would perfer Gravel a whole lot more over Kuchinich. Gravel wants to end the IRS, and he's not as much of an anti-gun nazi as Kuchinich is. Kuchinich wants to ban all handguns!

[jacmicwag]

They're buddies and both outsiders but this is a marriage that would never work. Sometimes, it's best to just be friends and leave it at that.

[PennCustom4RP]

Originally posted by Lord Xar
That is my feelings. This guy is NOT ABOUT LIBERTY. He is honest, but he is a communist/socialist honest guy.. hahahaha.

Ron And Dennis are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FAR APART, I don't get it. I think Dennis is so wrong from America


Wow Xar, we agree on two things in the same week...twilight zone experience.

What is this world coming to?:D

[sunny]

[QUOTE=Falseflagop;205206]RON PAUl has a huge following and Dennis is beloved by the dems sure they are different but they are together on the WAR!

no, you are way off base. dr. paul would not have it and you should know that if you know what dr. paul is about.

there is hardly any similarity between kucinich and paul.

you'd better do some research buddy!

[ButchHowdy]

This is a really bad idea that keeps popping up.

Somebody kill it.

1) Kucinich would bring the campaign down
2) Kucinich is not beloved by dems.
3) Kucinich is a socialist

AMEN! There's still a GOP'er (or 2) that hasn't 'yet' bowed their knee to Baal.

1.) James Duncan, TN voted NO to Iraq w/RP in 2003
2.) Chuck Hagel looks interesting

Mark Sanford is toast IMHO for the upcoming dance with Jeb Bush.

[wgadget]

I remember when Kucinich was the mayor of Cleveland when I lived up there...He was pretty much laughed at as a bad joke.

[katao]

Kuchinich = BAD CHOICE
Other moderate, small government Democrat supporting the Constitution = AWESOME CHOICE

This is a long term war, folks, against big government. Nothing would help win that war more than to break the false notion of LEFT-RIGHT politics in our country.

[inibo]

I recently worked with some local meetup folks at the Takoma Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takoma_Park,_Maryland#Law_and_government) Folk Festival. For folks who don't know the place it is a haven for "Free Tibet," "Save Darfur," dredlock sporting animal rights activists. Not to knock any of that, people should be free to pursue whatever cause they choose, just not with my money. We had a small table set up with RP literature, some bumper stickers and few yard signs. I was amazed at the number of people who came by and told us Ron Paul is the only Republican they would ever consider voting for who then added that if he would join up with Dennis Kucinich it would be a dream ticket. Because of some wisdom I received recently that a potential supporter/voter, like a good customer, is alway right, I just smiled, handed them a slim jim and suggested they register as Republican to vote for Ron Paul in the Maryland primaries. In my mind, though, I was thinking "Either they don't really know Ron Paul, or they don't really know Dennis Kucinich."

[pwnsey]

I disagree. I don't think it would be a very good ticket. Basically the only things they agree with is the war.

[erowe1]

I'm sorry, this idea is ridiculous. Why would any Ron Paul supporters want a totalitarian socialist like Kusinich a heart beat away from the presidency? We need a conservative like Paul in the VP slot.

[Bradley in DC]

The two of them get along well personally and have many similar views and approaches, but it's not going to happen.

[allyinoh]

I would rather see a Paul/Gravel ticket than a Paul/Kucinich ticket.

I, personally, 100% support RP but do not like Kucinich. He and RP agree on the war and that's about it.


So I'm going to have to say NO! to a Paul/Kucinich ticket. No way.

[erowe1]

Why are you people all talking up these unabashedly huge government Democrats who want to mandate living wages, grossly higher taxes, wealth redistribution, signing the Kyoto treaty, increasing the benefits of our welfare state and extending them to all 6 billion people in the world, one world government, and pretty much everything that is diametrically opposed to Ron Paul?
Even on military they're not the same. Paul has a consistent, coherent, pro-defense, strong-military, non-interventionist, anti-UN philosophy. The Kusinich/Gravel crowd are pacifist clowns who love the UN.

[fj45lvr]

theres a suicide pact spawned from hell.

Dennis' thought processes are laughable when you look at his views on the environment and his policy that is totally contradictory to private property and the Constitution (like any of the socialist/fascists).

not even considering Dennis loves the welfare statism we have created and wants it to be bigger (rewarding more irresponsible folks).

[Sakimoto]

I wonder if people realize that Kucinich is a dyed-in-the-wool socialist? Exact opposite philosophy of liberty that Ron Paul espouses.... I don't get it, why do people keep saying this??? :confused:

[bygone]

Bad Idea #4588394.

I don't believe that RP has a good choice for VP.

[erowe1]

I don't believe that RP has a good choice for VP.

You're being too pessimistic. First, I doubt that you really know enough about every potential VP out there to issue the negative claim that none are a good choice (I know I sure don't). But even among the names that have been offered so far, there are some choices that are at least "good", albeit not "perfect", like Mark Sanford and Butch Otter, for two examples.

[Jared Callanan]

Yeah, there have been a lot of bad ideas on this message board lately; see the retard who wanted Ron Paul to meat with Iranian leader MA - but this might be the worst idea.

[Jared Callanan]

Flags,

Your analogy doesn't work because Dennis Kucinich isn't a very popular Democrat; see his vote totals in 2004 and his current polling numbers *ducks tomato*. If you look into it even further you will see that Dennis isn't even liked within his own district as he has three democratic challengers in the primary and last I heard was in serious danger of losing.

Is a cross party ticket a good idea? Absolutely, there are some good democrats and even though I haven't researched it much a cross party ticket of say Paul / Webb or Paul / Dodd or some type of anti-war pro constitution democrat would be great. However, Dennis Kucinich would do more harm to Pauls campaign than good.

[fletcher]

LOL. Who comes up with this shit?

[bygone]

You're being too pessimistic.

No, I don't think so. You can find a match, but that's not what makes a good choice.

[max]

Kusinich is a socialist! As VP he would be positioned to become a future president who would undo all that RP does...

I like walter williams