grfgerger
09-21-2007, 08:03 PM
I was just flipping through the channels and saw Rudy on CPSAN-2 talking to the NRA. If anyone has a video of this, I'd appreciate if you could upload/link it to me.
Anyway, when I started watching the speech he was in the middle of saying how much he respects the constitution as a basis for respecting the second amendment. It was the typical gun arguments which I happen to agree with. Then he said something very interesting which was "not on the agenda" as he put it.
He talked about the "betray us" moveon.org ad and said that it was very important because it took speech to a new low. Then he said something very frightening to me. He said that this type of speech should not be allowed. I guess he wants to classify the ad as hate speech or some other form of dis-allowable dialogue.
Now, the ad itself was pretty bad but it did its job very well. It brought some much needed attention to the issue of a military general testifying before congress on behalf of policy makers, or more specifically the Bush Administration. I don't belive that Patreus was being particularly dishonest, but I took much of his testifying as representing Bush policy and not the military troops underneath him.
I do want to stress that Patreus is a much more courageous man than I am and has served his country honorably, but my point is that this type of discussion is necessary and good to have. To rule out negative advertisements for a privately funded political organization on the basis of their speech being offensive to some people is completely wrong and I sincerely hope that I misheard Giuliani when he spoke about it. So yea, if someone has the video, post it up! I'd really like to hear him say it again.
Anyway, when I started watching the speech he was in the middle of saying how much he respects the constitution as a basis for respecting the second amendment. It was the typical gun arguments which I happen to agree with. Then he said something very interesting which was "not on the agenda" as he put it.
He talked about the "betray us" moveon.org ad and said that it was very important because it took speech to a new low. Then he said something very frightening to me. He said that this type of speech should not be allowed. I guess he wants to classify the ad as hate speech or some other form of dis-allowable dialogue.
Now, the ad itself was pretty bad but it did its job very well. It brought some much needed attention to the issue of a military general testifying before congress on behalf of policy makers, or more specifically the Bush Administration. I don't belive that Patreus was being particularly dishonest, but I took much of his testifying as representing Bush policy and not the military troops underneath him.
I do want to stress that Patreus is a much more courageous man than I am and has served his country honorably, but my point is that this type of discussion is necessary and good to have. To rule out negative advertisements for a privately funded political organization on the basis of their speech being offensive to some people is completely wrong and I sincerely hope that I misheard Giuliani when he spoke about it. So yea, if someone has the video, post it up! I'd really like to hear him say it again.