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Derek Johnson
06-03-2009, 08:19 PM
YouTube - Giving Sean Hannity a dose of Washington / Jefferson viewpoint on foreign policy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJjYbNhpj30)

krazy kaju
06-03-2009, 08:24 PM
Damn, you're on a roll, man. How are you able to call in to so many talk shows? Whenever I call in to popular talk shows like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, or Levin, I just can't get in.

itshappening
06-03-2009, 08:28 PM
keep up the good work Derek :cool:

I loved that statement: "who's right, Hannity or Washington" :p

powerful!

Derek Johnson
06-03-2009, 08:30 PM
Let me share my secret:

"Hello, neocon talk radio what do you want to say on the air?"

"I want to tell the host that I'm a reformed democrat - you know, the best kind...

...anyway, thanks to this show, I'm now a card carrying republican and I'll push the nuke Iran button myself if given the chance..."

...or some such thing, be creative, and persist

krazy kaju
06-03-2009, 08:31 PM
BTW, Zbigniew Brzezinski = "Zbeegnyev." I have no idea how to transliterate the Polish pronunciation of "Brzezinski" into English, though I can tell you that Polish "rz" and "zi" sounds similar to the French "jou."

krazy kaju
06-03-2009, 08:33 PM
Let me share my secret:

"Hello, neocon talk radio what do you want to say on the air?"

"I want to tell the host that I'm a reformed democrat - you know, the best kind...

...anyway, thanks to this show, I'm now a card carrying republican and I'll push the nuke Iran button myself if given the chance..."

...or some such thing, be creative, and persist

I've noticed though that the talk show host you call in to will often say that you're a liberal of some kind. My problem is that whenever I call the line seems to be taken. I've only gotten lucky with smaller shows, like Sliwa's show which is on after Levin in NY.

emazur
06-03-2009, 08:38 PM
Appreciate you taking the time to try to inform these guys. Have you ever tried preempting their typical responses first (choosing maybe 2 or 3 example countries) and then asking them about the founders' foreign policy? But I suppose they'll likely just counter w/ some other example countries that we're "bringing freedom to" that you didn't have time to cover

DAaaMan64
06-03-2009, 08:43 PM
Nice work. Keep it up!

MRoCkEd
06-03-2009, 08:45 PM
There are plenty of oppressed countries. Should we invade and overthrow the government of each one? Be consistent, Pawn Hannity.

Liberty Star
06-03-2009, 08:48 PM
Very educational clip.


Hannity: "Where will we vbe if did not support Afghan Mujahideens ( jihadis)?"

Question for hannity in case he is surfing this forum, would there have been 9/11 had we not armed/funded radical religious extremist jihadis/arab foreign fighters in Afghanistan in 80s?
By the way, did you ever do your waterboarding for charity stunt?

slacker921
06-03-2009, 08:48 PM
Derek.. thanks for doing this.

stag15
06-03-2009, 08:57 PM
I like the goats in the background!

Good job! Your last statements on the military were great. I wish Sean wouldn't have cut you off so soon.

iddo
06-03-2009, 09:19 PM
Good job.
It became surreal near the end when Hannity said that you're a statist... he's becoming confused by his own propaganda:)

Derek Johnson
06-03-2009, 09:31 PM
Good job.
It became surreal near the end when Hannity said that you're a statist... he's becoming confused by his own propaganda:)

I know, right. Statist?! Oh sure Hannity, a guy that wants almost zero federal government....STATIST. It just underscores how he will bend and exaggerate to keep the sheep in their deep deep slumber.

Thanks everyone for your kind words, hit the local talk shows, and try to get on the syndicated shows during commutes or whatever.

AuH20
06-03-2009, 09:38 PM
Hannity is a real piece of work. The specious goal of "spreading freedom around world" was never outlined in the Constitution. He's utilizing the extraordinary events of WW2 and the Cold War to justify imperialist activity in a modern setting.

BTW Derek, great job with call. You really ambushed him well. This was a big upgrade to your Levin call. 4 stars! ;);)

Brian4Liberty
06-03-2009, 09:49 PM
Good job.
It became surreal near the end when Hannity said that you're a statist... he's becoming confused by his own propaganda:)

Hannity is such an idiot. Typical talking air-head. He equated statism with isolationism. Next thing you know, he will equate statism with anarchism..."you darn statist anarchist!"

Derek Johnson
06-03-2009, 11:00 PM
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=55532091#post55532091

This should prove fun, while it lasts ;)

...it did not last long, kudos to the great and responsive sean hannity forum moderators ;)

...but those pesky sean hannity forum moderators did inspire a new background...no offense Ron Paul, but I have a little 1st amendment issue going on with sean...

http://www.youtube.com/user/cattleprods911

BuddyRey
06-04-2009, 12:13 AM
Awesome call, but you shouldn't have let that anti-intellectual twit talk over you! I wanted to hear your rebuttal, but he selfishly took the last word while painting you into an ideological corner and misrepresenting your viewpoint. He even called you a statist, for gosh sake! :eek: That's not just the pot calling the kettle black...that's the pot calling the tablecloth black!

Derek Johnson
06-04-2009, 12:41 AM
Awesome call, but you shouldn't have let that anti-intellectual twit talk over you! I wanted to hear your rebuttal, but he selfishly took the last word while painting you into an ideological corner and misrepresenting your viewpoint. He even called you a statist, for gosh sake! :eek: That's not just the pot calling the kettle black...that's the pot calling the tablecloth black!

Please explain the concept of 'shouldn't have let' when I got hung up on as soon as I stated my last word, which was 'who'. When I listened to the call later, he even said during that long ass diatribe-blab that he wanted to ask me a question. Uh huh, sure.

So, how do you ask someone a question several minutes after you have already hung up on them. Posing, that's all. Like I said during my 'video rebuttal', this is all fake, this is a SHOW vying only for RATINGS, this is paid propaganda for a target market. This show is not real, it's just simply ratings, ratings are the only thing that is really and truly real here...as well as the precious few callers like me [not that I'm anything special, I'm not, but I'm bringing a real issue to the table, not just the usual partisan crap].

What is interesting to me is YOUR perception, because I'm sure there are many others who thought 'DUR, YOU TELL THAT STATIST SEAN.., DUR...TELL HIM GOOD SEAN, YOU GOOD AMURIKUN YOU...BA'AAAA'AAAA'AAAA' all while all this was going on. Sean and I go back years, and his lovely screener Lynda was getting funny when I told her my name, because she still remembers the trauma that a 'caller' bearing my name has caused in months and years past....same with Rush, O'Reilly etc.

But don't keep sitting your ass in the bleachers, get in the arena and find out for yourself...get out of the Hegelian matrix.

krazy kaju
06-04-2009, 09:53 AM
Derek, I've been watching some of your other calls, and I'm impressed. Good job. I'll have to get into the game as well.

brandon
06-04-2009, 10:02 AM
Nice job! How many sheep you got?

dannno
06-04-2009, 10:20 AM
Hannity: "Where will we vbe if did not support Afghan Mujahideens ( jihadis)?"



You've gotta be kidding me.. without that we wouldn't have had Osama Bin Fucking Laden!!!

Derek Johnson
06-04-2009, 04:23 PM
Nice job! How many sheep you got?

They are goats, and we currently have 3.

The two 'does' are Nigerian Dwarfs...'Goldie' and 'Shadow', between 2-3 years old. Their milk is well beyond good, approaching melted vanilla ice cream. To keep them in milk we breed them to our male [kept in a distant pen], Bambie, who is a young Oberhaus. Btw, Bambie's 'body-guard' is a Pit-bull/Great Pyrenees mix...'Scrappy'...so absolutely no coyote/stray dog worries there!

Athan
06-04-2009, 09:45 PM
This video needs to go viral! Not simply just calling, but actually put the conversation and your rebuttal on the internet that will last longer than the fucking idiot's show will help break their propaganda machine.

Minarchy4Sale
06-04-2009, 09:51 PM
i couldnt sit through hannity's whinyness.

What I find utterly repulsive is that NEOCons use the same arguments for ignoring the constitution that the Socialists use.

'times have changed'

Bullshit. yes, TECHNOLOGIES have changed, but the basic human condition has not changed since before Christ. Government isnt about techology, it is about people.

FSP-Rebel
06-04-2009, 09:53 PM
Technology has changed, but the principles (of the Founders) remain the same. Sorry Sean

Get rid of the neutrality act so 'amerikans' like yourself can send millions of dollars to kill people overseas. Or, what about that timeless constitutional concept of marque and reprisal?

Derek Johnson
06-04-2009, 10:25 PM
i couldnt sit through hannity's whinyness.

What I find utterly repulsive is that NEOCons use the same arguments for ignoring the constitution that the Socialists use.

'times have changed'

Bullshit. yes, TECHNOLOGIES have changed, but the basic human condition has not changed since before Christ. Government isnt about techology, it is about people.

Bingo, you are at the core of the essential truth. The constitution is absolute and timeless, the framers had terrorism then...and they knew damn well we would have terrorism now.

Our replacement of human intel with technology, along with creating monsters like the Taliban and the unbalanced relationships with foreign states have put us in a mess...and a socialistic based banking system is strangling the life out of us.

If the republicans want to get real and have a chance, they can't do it with a "living breathing" constitution...they can only do it with the Jefferson/Madison constitution. Let's wake the Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin audience from their slumber.

Derek Johnson
06-04-2009, 10:26 PM
Technology has changed, but the principles (of the Founders) remain the same. Sorry Sean

Get rid of the neutrality act so 'amerikans' like yourself can send millions of dollars to kill people overseas. Or, what about that timeless constitutional concept of marque and reprisal?

So true!

Bruno
06-04-2009, 10:48 PM
Great call, Derek! Keep getting through.

Typical Hannity - He started by answering your question with a (long, rambling, multi-part) question, then continued to rant, soap-box, strawman, etc. for two minutes and then didn't allow you a chance to respond before hanging up and moving on to the next caller.

Perry
06-04-2009, 11:48 PM
YouTube - Giving Sean Hannity a dose of Washington / Jefferson viewpoint on foreign policy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJjYbNhpj30)

Way to go Derek. Thanks for the video and God bless.

Derek Johnson
06-05-2009, 04:20 PM
Way to go Derek. Thanks for the video and God bless.

Thanks Perry, I appreciate it.

Some, no ALL of y'all should get on the syndicated airwaves. It's easy, just do it, and it's important. It's kinda like slaughtering a farm animal, a little unpleasant at first, but you get used to it...:eek:

Seriously, I'm limited by the screeners recognizing my voice....which sometimes I try to hide, but I can't sustain it....I'm from Iowa, so I can sound like an Iowan, I've been in Texas for a long time, so no problem w/that accent either...but they are on to me, so step it up Ron Paulers.

So, get on their air, make your points...keep it simple, you won't have time to blab when you are talkin liberty and freedom...and please YouTube link it here...M'KAY?!

Njon
06-05-2009, 06:32 PM
How lame that he called you a liberal before you even started talking policy.

MRoCkEd
06-05-2009, 06:37 PM
A good way to turn the table might be reminding him that this whole "making the world safe for democracy" idea is Wilsonian, and a stark contrast to traditional Robert Taft conservatism.

Derek Johnson
06-05-2009, 07:25 PM
A good way to turn the table might be reminding him that this whole "making the world safe for democracy" idea is Wilsonian, and a stark contrast to traditional Robert Taft conservatism.


Speaking to a Joint Session of Congress to request a declaration of war against Germany on April 2, 1917 – three years after his Independence Hall speech – Wilson committed Americans to fighting, “for the things which we have always carried nearest our hearts,

“for democracy, for the right of those who submit to authority to have a voice in their own Governments, for the rights and liberties of small nations, for a universal dominion of right by such a concert of free peoples as shall bring peace and safety to all nations and make the world itself at last free. To such a task we can dedicate our Lives and our fortunes, everything that we are and everything we have, with the pride of those who know that the day has come when America is privileged to spend her blood and her might for the principles that gave her birth and happiness and the peace which she has treasured.”

“The world must be made safe for democracy,” Wilson told Congress. “Its peace must be planted upon the tested foundations of political liberty.” Here, again, we see Wilson’s vision for spreading American principles abroad.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

The tragedy is our [late] involvement in WWI, which led to WWII, which led to the cold war, which created the Taliban, Al Queda etc. This is a simplification, but our Feb 3, 1917 decision is only 2nd to Lincoln's April 15, 1861 decision. On these 2 days, Jefferson's America died...and Hamilton's America were born. And shit-ass Sean Hannity tells me there would be no freedom if we had not have intervened? And the Sandista / Mujahadin support is as horrible as propaganda gets.

Excuse me Sean?