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IPSecure
06-01-2009, 09:44 PM
In an historic final interview, filmmaker and music promoter Aaron Russo goes in depth on the insider-knowledge given to him by a member of the Rockefeller family.

Russo was told-- prior to 9/11-- of plans to stage terror attacks, invade foreign nations, and kickstart a high-tech police state control grid that would track the populations' every move with implantable RFID microchips.


(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBugx3GPITI&feature=PlayList&p=5B8452F0A15CB1D4&index=0&playnext=1#)

Brassmouth
06-01-2009, 09:57 PM
Russo was told-- prior to 9/11-- of plans to stage terror attacks, invade foreign nations, and kickstart a high-tech police state control grid that would track the populations' every move with implantable RFID microchips.

A socialist police state regime can never be high-tech or efficient. To say so is Orwellian fiction, and any such regime would be short lived, as Mises demonstrated. The State cannot violate economic law for long before collapsing.

FSP-Rebel
06-01-2009, 10:04 PM
A socialist police state regime can never be high-tech or efficient. To say so is Orwellian fiction, and any such regime would be short lived, as Mises demonstrated. The State cannot violate economic law for long before collapsing.
Interesting. Could you elaborate a little more on this?

Brassmouth
06-02-2009, 12:00 AM
Interesting. Could you elaborate a little more on this?

Sure. Any police state would be as horribly run as the DMV and the post office. There's no difference within the government. The incentives simply aren't there outside of a free market setting for any efficient work to be done. This is why you see rampant police and military abuse, and no reduction in crime. (Some would argue that the cops increase crime because of their corruption.)

Anyway, even if such a complex and totalitarian system were implemented without a violent revolution, it would be horribly mismanaged and ineffective. For instance, the Chinese people easily get around the Great Firewall by downloading a firefox app. The government is as terrible at managing surveillance systems as it is at managing the highways.

I won't go in depth into the economics of it (See Mises' Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth, Socialism, and Bureaucracy for a full treatment) but basically the more controlled an economy becomes the more inept and impossible it is to coordinate production. This is why North Korea can't feed itself. That regime is in it's death throes and will collapse soon, assuming they get no more aid from the rich countries. The USSR wouldn't have existed for more than a year if it hadn't received massive amounts of aid from capitalist countries throughout it's existence.

I hope that helps.

qwerty
06-02-2009, 04:41 AM
POWERFULL!


:cool:

hawaiisb
06-02-2009, 12:57 PM
http://freedom.tv/live

Watch it live now at that location. It is currently a live intro and chat and then the movie will be showing.

Lovecraftian4Paul
06-02-2009, 05:21 PM
The only thing I don't like about this interview is that no one has been able to verify the identity of the Rockefeller whom Aaron Russo knew. Nicholas Rockefeller carries the Rockefeller name, but he doesn't appear in any family tree and there's no evidence to show that he's part of the John D. Rockefeller lineage.

Objectivist
06-02-2009, 05:25 PM
Could you please post the information on a microchip that has a transmitter in it that gives your location via GPS or other tacking system? I was wondering how they fit a rechargeable battery under your skin and the means of keeping it recharged?

Catatonic
06-02-2009, 05:53 PM
Could you please post the information on a microchip that has a transmitter in it that gives your location via GPS or other tacking system? I was wondering how they fit a rechargeable battery under your skin and the means of keeping it recharged?

lol, are you serious?

This is not new technology. In passive RFID chips the RD radiation put out by whatever is scanning the chip powers it. The active chips have as much as a 10 year active life without a battery. You realize if you have a passport or a driver's license, you're chippped, right? Do you see any batteries attached?

They even have edible RFID chips now, so you can eat one and not even know it.

Objectivist
06-02-2009, 06:28 PM
lol, are you serious?

This is not new technology. In passive RFID chips the RD radiation put out by whatever is scanning the chip powers it. The active chips have as much as a 10 year active life without a battery. You realize if you have a passport or a driver's license, you're chippped, right? Do you see any batteries attached?

They even have edible RFID chips now, so you can eat one and not even know it.

I understand the current technology and unless someone can figure out how to plant a burst transmitter with power supply the RFID chip can only be read by a reader.

OP made this statement.
" kickstart a high-tech police state control grid that would track the populations' every move with implantable RFID microchips."

Tracking every move implies a transmitter, unless he's suggesting setting up road blocks and scanning everyone that passes thru? I guess the only other option is fencing off blocks of land and controlling the population?

Catatonic
06-02-2009, 08:19 PM
I understand the current technology and unless someone can figure out how to plant a burst transmitter with power supply the RFID chip can only be read by a reader.

OP made this statement.
" kickstart a high-tech police state control grid that would track the populations' every move with implantable RFID microchips."

Tracking every move implies a transmitter, unless he's suggesting setting up road blocks and scanning everyone that passes thru? I guess the only other option is fencing off blocks of land and controlling the population?

Think minority report. Remember how he couldn't go anywhere without his eyes being scanned?

South Park Fan
06-02-2009, 08:32 PM
The only thing I don't like about this interview is that no one has been able to verify the identity of the Rockefeller whom Aaron Russo knew. Nicholas Rockefeller carries the Rockefeller name, but he doesn't appear in any family tree and there's no evidence to show that he's part of the John D. Rockefeller lineage.

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who couldn't find him in the Rockefeller family

FSP-Rebel
06-02-2009, 08:53 PM
Sure. Any police state would be as horribly run as the DMV and the post office. There's no difference within the government. The incentives simply aren't there outside of a free market setting for any efficient work to be done. This is why you see rampant police and military abuse, and no reduction in crime. (Some would argue that the cops increase crime because of their corruption.)

Anyway, even if such a complex and totalitarian system were implemented without a violent revolution, it would be horribly mismanaged and ineffective. For instance, the Chinese people easily get around the Great Firewall by downloading a firefox app. The government is as terrible at managing surveillance systems as it is at managing the highways.

I won't go in depth into the economics of it (See Mises' Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth, Socialism, and Bureaucracy for a full treatment) but basically the more controlled an economy becomes the more inept and impossible it is to coordinate production. This is why North Korea can't feed itself. That regime is in it's death throes and will collapse soon, assuming they get no more aid from the rich countries. The USSR wouldn't have existed for more than a year if it hadn't received massive amounts of aid from capitalist countries throughout it's existence.

I hope that helps.
Very helpful and refreshing!

Objectivist
06-03-2009, 01:54 AM
Think minority report. Remember how he couldn't go anywhere without his eyes being scanned?

I don't read comic books you have something that represents reality? ANd ah we weren't talking about eye scans, were we?

Catatonic
06-03-2009, 08:37 AM
I don't read comic books you have something that represents reality? ANd ah we weren't talking about eye scans, were we?

I was using that as an example. In minority report there are low range scanners everywhere. Any time he wants to shop, use public transportation, go into shopping centers, go into government buildings, ANYTHING, his eyes get scanned.

Replace the eye scanner with low range RFID scanners and there you go. The average RFID chip comes with enough power to last 10 years through these kinds of scans and they may find a way to have the scanner itself power the chip long enough to transmit a signal.