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fedup100
06-01-2009, 04:06 PM
So much for freedom folks. Pravda as it turns out is about the only site out there telling the world the truth. Now you as a free american are not allowed to know the truth.

After this story on Drudge yesterday, the nasty filth government has decided to block the site.



http://grizzlygroundswell.theodoremedia.com/archives/6974



http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/filtering/china/block-kw-detail.html

LibertyEagle
06-01-2009, 04:17 PM
Huh? That listing is for what is blocked in CHINA.

youngbuck
06-01-2009, 04:19 PM
So we know for sure that the U.S. gov't has blocked access to this site?

Dieseler
06-01-2009, 04:23 PM
I can't get through, but Google picks it up.
http://www.google.com/search?q=pravda+us&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Someone else try.

Dieseler
06-01-2009, 04:24 PM
Can't get through on the link in this thread either.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=194394

Kraig
06-01-2009, 04:24 PM
I cannot access http://english.pravda.ru/ as well.

Dieseler
06-01-2009, 04:26 PM
This is just the start I presume I am an idiot.
We all knew this was coming and I would realize I was an idiot one day.

heavenlyboy34
06-01-2009, 04:28 PM
ZOMG! I tried it, and you're right! :eek: ~closes the blinds, hides in the corner with rifle and supplies~

sevin
06-01-2009, 04:29 PM
Go here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=pravda.ru&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10

Then click where it says "Translate this page" next to the first result.

Dieseler
06-01-2009, 04:30 PM
ZOMG! I tried it, and you're right! :eek: ~closes the blinds, hides in the corner with rifle and supplies~

Lolz, I been doin that for months now.

sailor
06-01-2009, 04:31 PM
It`s probably just their server down. Im not US based and it`s not working for me either.

Dieseler
06-01-2009, 04:33 PM
Go here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=pravda.ru&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10

Then click where it says "Translate this page" next to the first result.

/say Is this considered an exploit in the game?
/say Should we petition for a GM to look at this before doing it?
/say Will we be banned if we're caught doing this?

:D

heavenlyboy34
06-01-2009, 04:33 PM
Go here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=pravda.ru&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=pravda.ru&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10)

Then click where it says "Translate this page" next to the first result.

Pretty bad translation, IMHO. :( Another good reason to brush up on my russian! :cool:

reagle
06-01-2009, 04:34 PM
the russian version works with google translate
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpravda.ru%2F&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?sl=ru&tl=en#

jclay2
06-01-2009, 04:35 PM
I tried http://english.pravda.ru/ and was unsuccessful by just typing in the url through firefox and a proxy. Maybe the website is down. Anyone with tech knowledge please comment.

heavenlyboy34
06-01-2009, 04:38 PM
the russian version works with google translate
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpravda.ru%2F&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0= (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpravda.ru%2F&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=)

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?sl=ru&tl=en# (http://translate.google.com/translate_t?sl=ru&tl=en#)


When you see grammar like this "Employees of insurance companies in Khabarovsk was much surprised when discovered that they could not use corporate e-mail.", you know you're looking at a half-assed translation. Hopefully the English will be back online in the future...till then, brush up on your Русский, friends! До свидания! :) Good thing my keyboard has cyrillic characters, eh? ;):D:cool:

sparebulb
06-01-2009, 04:41 PM
I'm not getting it either. Let's just hope that this is just a routine outage and we are just paranoid.

specsaregood
06-01-2009, 04:42 PM
Another good reason to brush up on my russian!

Zdrastvuitye Comrade!

BTW, I just tried it to access it from a remote server in MX and it was NOT available. I'd suggest the OP is jumping the gun a bit. 99.9999% sure it is just their server being down or connection down for some reason.

heavenlyboy34
06-01-2009, 05:03 PM
Zdrastvuitye Comrade!

BTW, I just tried it to access it from a remote server in MX and it was NOT available. I'd suggest the OP is jumping the gun a bit. 99.9999% sure it is just their server being down or connection down for some reason.

Здравствуй, друге! :D:cool:

GunnyFreedom
06-01-2009, 05:12 PM
I hadn't seen this thread, but had tried accessing the Pravda satire on American Economics again to send to a friend only to discover that it's down. Interesting.....

I still have the page up, I'll have to screen-shot it and call it "The Death of American Free Access" if the site never comes back up.


ETA - thank goodness for page caching! I have both pages of the article saved to my HD now.

axiomata
06-01-2009, 05:14 PM
http://english.pravda.ru/ works for me

Number19
06-01-2009, 05:15 PM
I got through before the link was blocked. Here's the text :


“American capitalism gone with a whimper” - from Pravda!

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their “right” to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our “democracy”. Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different “branches and denominations” were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the “winning” side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the “winning” side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America’s short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?

These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.

Then came Barack Obama’s command that GM’s (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of “pure” free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.

So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a “bold” move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK’s Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our “wise” Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper…but a “freeman” whimper.

So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set “fair” maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks … stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.

The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.

The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

Stanislav Mishin

GunnyFreedom
06-01-2009, 05:22 PM
OK -- IF Something nefarious is happening (which I doubt, but can no longer discount) and IF people desperately need to see the article that probably did it, I have hosted it here:

American capitalism gone with a whimper

Page 1 (http://liberty.ohmegacomm.com/host/html/Pravda/USMarxism/pravda1.html)
Page 2 (http://liberty.ohmegacomm.com/host/html/Pravda/USMarxism/pravda2.html)

(please be kind to my bandwidth)

GunnyFreedom
06-01-2009, 05:23 PM
http://english.pravda.ru/ works for me

Yes, apparently after most of a day being down, it is now back up. What a relief!

axiomata
06-01-2009, 05:25 PM
Maybe their servers couldn't handle the hits from drudge?

Liberty Star
06-01-2009, 05:47 PM
It was blocked because of this story they did on American empire:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=193900

And this immoral photo :

http://ad.liveinternet.ru/show/59/banner/73.jpg


They also wrote against Iraqi freedom war.

GunnyFreedom
06-01-2009, 05:57 PM
Maybe their servers couldn't handle the hits from drudge?

Yeah, I'm thinking they couldn't handle the hits from SOMEWHERE, Drudge or otherwise. This article has Americans SLAMMING their servers, you betcha! (and that's GREAT news!!!) :D :D :D

Dieseler
06-01-2009, 05:59 PM
Did you guys see the article about Chinese students laughing at Geithner?

Edit: Already posted
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=194406&highlight=chinese+geithner

ChooseLiberty
06-01-2009, 09:12 PM
Interesting that the Russians seem to know more about reality than the US sheeple.




I got through before the link was blocked. Here's the text :


“American capitalism gone with a whimper” - from Pravda!

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their “right” to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our “democracy”. Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different “branches and denominations” were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the “winning” side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the “winning” side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America’s short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?

These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.

Then came Barack Obama’s command that GM’s (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of “pure” free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.

So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a “bold” move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK’s Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our “wise” Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper…but a “freeman” whimper.

So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set “fair” maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks … stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.

The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.

The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

Stanislav Mishin

amonasro
06-01-2009, 09:46 PM
It's sort of like a Russian Weekly World News. Somehow I can't take the site seriously when they put up real stories alongside hilariousness relating to beached sea beasts, photoshopped bodybuilders and mysterious dwarven aliens:

http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/05-04-2007/89132-russian_alien-0

That being said, I just spent 15 entertaining minutes there :)

AdamT
06-01-2009, 09:51 PM
Loads fine for me.

GunnyFreedom
06-01-2009, 10:19 PM
It's sort of like a Russian Weekly World News. Somehow I can't take the site seriously when they put up real stories alongside hilariousness relating to beached sea beasts, photoshopped bodybuilders and mysterious dwarven aliens:

http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/05-04-2007/89132-russian_alien-0

That being said, I just spent 15 entertaining minutes there :)

I think it's more satire covering truth. Back in the bad old days, Pravda used to try and sneak truth out from under the noses of the apparatchik through the use of satire. All of their stories continue to retain that 'color' to this day.

qh4dotcom
06-01-2009, 11:52 PM
This story reminds me of a comment I saw on Alex Jones's site

Here it is...what do you all think?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/celente-predicts-revolution-food-riots-tax-rebellions-by-2012.html



Dear Americans!

Your time to pay has come. It is a simple saying, but also a very true one: What goes around, comes around.

In the 20th century, you, the people of USA, were responsible for tens of millions of deaths across the globe. And only God knows, how much misery and pain in other forms you’ve spread across this beautiful planet of ours.

You’ve led the lifestyle you did not deserve. Every year, you consumed billions of dollars worth of goods, but you did not pay for them. No, you stole it from the nations of the world. Year after year, decade after decade. But every criminal gets caught, sooner or later.

And, please, do not be pussies. Do not say, it was our goverment. Do not say, it was the evil Jewish bankers. Do not say it was the weapons industry. Do not say it was the oil industry. Do not say it was the NWO people. Do not say it was the robber barons.

It was you. It was all you. The people of USA.

You are going down, but at least go down with an ounce of humility. At least, admit, it is completely and utterly your fault for letting your rulers do whatever they please with your nation and the rest of the world. It was you who was putting them in power for centuries. It was you who was praising them. It was you who wanted them. It was you, who wanted big houses, shiny cars, barbie dolls. It was you, who wanted the American Dream. It was you, who let the media run a constant brainwashing fest. It was you, supporting and trusting your administrations, never doubting them for a second. It was you, who supported all the wars you fought. Not for the ideals of liberty, freedom and democracy. It was all for the mighty Dollar.

Oh, the irony! The time is coming, where it won’t make a difference, with what I wipe my ass after taking a huge dump: with a toilet paper, or a green paper with mister Franklin on.

THEY WILL BE WORTH THE SAME - NOTHING.

You will suffer.

And I will laugh. I will laugh hard and enjoy seeing your misery. I will enjoy it very much.

But no one will care.

That is the only way you will learn.

So sad. So very sad.

And then, only then, you will be reborn into something better.

Danke
06-01-2009, 11:57 PM
This story reminds me of a comment I saw on Alex Jones's site

Here it is...what do you all think?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/celente-predicts-revolution-food-riots-tax-rebellions-by-2012.html

I don't take responsibility for actions I did not commit. I am not a collectivist.

LibertyEagle
06-02-2009, 12:20 AM
I can still get to it just fine.

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/

ramallamamama
06-02-2009, 12:36 AM
I cannot access http://english.pravda.ru/ as well.
Works for me.

LittleLightShining
06-02-2009, 05:06 AM
I cannot access http://english.pravda.ru/ as well.I can. There was a log-in page and then it automatically went to the front news page.

james1844
06-02-2009, 06:00 AM
Honestly, I think we need to keep in mind that Pravda is russian propaganda. The "paper" is highly skewed towards an anti-US perspective. Plus, the webpage is heavy on content addressing military weaponry, starletts with big breasts, bigfoot, and extreme science. - In short, porn for the public.

We should take anything that "newspaper" puts out with a HUGE grain of salt.

GunnyFreedom
06-02-2009, 11:41 AM
Honestly, I think we need to keep in mind that Pravda is russian propaganda. The "paper" is highly skewed towards an anti-US perspective. Plus, the webpage is heavy on content addressing military weaponry, starletts with big breasts, bigfoot, and extreme science. - In short, porn for the public.

We should take anything that "newspaper" puts out with a HUGE grain of salt.

I had to read that four times before I figured out that you were talking about Pravda instead of FoxNews....

rpfan2008
06-02-2009, 11:50 AM
Use built-in proxy (add-on) for Mozilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3239)