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Rael
05-30-2009, 11:14 PM
What do you think of aspartame?

Kotin
05-30-2009, 11:18 PM
there is a reason it is banned in Japan... and from what I hear it was patented by monsanto.


need I say more?? it is fucking poison.

Kludge
05-30-2009, 11:20 PM
*shrugs* I haven't really looked into it, but I don't buy "diet" food/drinks, so I'm not too worried.

Rael
05-30-2009, 11:21 PM
there is a reason it is banned in Japan... and from what I hear it was patented by monsanto.


need I say more?? it is fucking poison.

Yeah, apparently they use stevia there.

I bought some stevia extract today...like 1/2 tsp sweetend a gallon of tea. A bit of a bitter aftertaste.

Kotin
05-30-2009, 11:23 PM
Yeah, apparently they use stevia there.

I bought some stevia extract today...like 1/2 tsp sweetend a gallon of tea. A bit of a bitter aftertaste.

yes stevia is great.. I am growing some.

apparently the leaves of stevia are 200 times sweeter than sugar, and it has a licorice after taste..


I am growing all essential herb for my own tea bags, and this is what I will use to sweeten it.. along with organic honey.

sevin
05-30-2009, 11:29 PM
I'm not sure what to think, but I've started trying to avoid it just in case.

RSLudlum
05-30-2009, 11:53 PM
yes stevia is great.. I am growing some.

apparently the leaves of stevia are 200 times sweeter than sugar, and it has a licorice after taste..


I am growing all essential herb for my own tea bags, and this is what I will use to sweeten it.. along with organic honey.


I've also got a Stevia plant growing in the garden. It's extremely sweeter than I thought it would be.

As far as aspartame goes, I can't stand the taste or nasty aftertaste that seems to linger in the back of my throat.

Rael
05-31-2009, 12:01 AM
I've also got a Stevia plant growing in the garden. It's extremely sweeter than I thought it would be.

As far as aspartame goes, I can't stand the taste or nasty aftertaste that seems to linger in the back of my throat.

The extract is unbelievable sweet, the one I bought comes in a spice type bottle and is only half full, but it has 940 servings! It comes with this tiny ass plastic scoop.

satchelmcqueen
05-31-2009, 12:11 AM
it is poison from what i know of it. thanks to rumsfeld, it got pushed through. avoid it like the plague.

Pete
05-31-2009, 01:21 AM
Not too long after it came out, I read an article on about page 28 of the newspaper that told about how it was being found in autopsies to be deposited in brain tissue. That was it for me and my family.

rajibo
05-31-2009, 01:21 AM
Is that the blue, yellow or pink packet??

foofighter20x
05-31-2009, 01:34 AM
there is a reason it is banned in Japan... and from what I hear it was patented by monsanto.


need I say more?? it is fucking poison.

Tasty, tasty poison!

D'oh!

I means: tasty, tasty cancer!

D'oh!

foofighter20x
05-31-2009, 01:36 AM
Is that the blue, yellow or pink packet??

Think Nutrasweet and Equal (the blue packet).

Personally, I use Splenda (the yellow packet).

The pink pact is Sweet'n'Low, but I forget what they use... (maybe it's the Splenda rotting my brain that makes me not remember.) :p

donnay
05-31-2009, 01:59 AM
*shrugs* I haven't really looked into it, but I don't buy "diet" food/drinks, so I'm not too worried.

They are putting it in foods that do not say "diet" on them. You'll have to learn to read labels and learn the other names they use. Look at gum for example: Juicy Fruit regular gum has aspartame in it. I found this out the hard way because I get excruciating headaches from anything laced with aspartame--unbeknown to me, I found out it was in the gum I chewed--which never had aspartame in it before nor is it diet.


YouTube - Super Size My Aspartame by trillion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eep3PJ--Czc&feature=player_embedded)

Government Says Aspartame Is Good For You
AP calls study independent, omits previous human studies showing Aspartame danger
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | April 5 2006 (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/050406goodforyou.htm)

The deadly toxin Aspartame which is included in more than 6,000 food and drink products around the world is good for you according to a new government study. The Associated Press falsely labels the results as independent and omits referencing previous human studies undertaken by groups with no corporate or government ties that concluded the opposite.

youngbuck
05-31-2009, 04:08 AM
I avoid anything with aspartame in it. Yes, I read ingredient labels.

Objectivist
05-31-2009, 05:16 AM
I hear Commercial Pilots are prohibited from using it.

jsu718
05-31-2009, 05:35 AM
It's delicious.
I would use Splenda, but it is terrible for baking.

It really wouldn't be as much of an issue for me if products I could buy from the store would use real sugar instead of High Fructose Corn Syrup... because to me, Aspartame is a better option.

Soft Spoken Storm
05-31-2009, 06:28 AM
I doubt it's any kind of conspiracy or anything. To me, it's like most other synthesized foods... you're eating something that wasn't intended by nature, so there is going to be a chance that it doesn't react well with your body. The fact that it was the accidental result of someone trying to create a drug to fight ulcers doesn't really speak much for it being a good idea for healthy people to take in high doses (or even multiple small doses). It's like if you took Oxycontin and found out it tastes like chicken, then decided to use it like bouillon. Never mind that it wasn't intended to be a food additive, it tastes good so let's market it as such!

silverhandorder
05-31-2009, 06:50 AM
Aspartame as far as I know is safe. The brain study was bs. It was done on mice and the mice were fed ridiculous levels of aspartame (1000 times more than we can consume). Over time effects depend on whether your body can break it down in time or not.

So basically if you are concerned you are better safe then sorry. For me it's a non issue because I don't consume dietary drinks and like sugar more.

I suggest some one interested in reading labels take an organic chem course. So much will make sense after it and will make your research in food much more productive.

Working Poor
05-31-2009, 07:26 AM
I believe there is not artificial sweetener that is safe.

Everything which is in the "artificial sweetener" range be it nutra sweet, splenda, saccharine ect..one ought to avoid if you are sensitive to them or wish to avoid them. If the product calls itself "diet or lite" it almost is certain to have one of these ingredients in it.

Here is a link to an e-how article on identifying the hidden names of artificial sweeteners:

http://www.ehow.com/how_4483377_identify-artificial-sweeteners.html

pacelli
05-31-2009, 07:30 AM
there is a reason it is banned in Japan... and from what I hear it was patented by monsanto.


need I say more?? it is fucking poison.

Don Rumsfeld made a great deal of money off of selling aspartame.

sratiug
05-31-2009, 07:46 AM
Aspartame as far as I know is safe. The brain study was bs. It was done on mice and the mice were fed ridiculous levels of aspartame (1000 times more than we can consume). Over time effects depend on whether your body can break it down in time or not.

So basically if you are concerned you are better safe then sorry. For me it's a non issue because I don't consume dietary drinks and like sugar more.

I suggest some one interested in reading labels take an organic chem course. So much will make sense after it and will make your research in food much more productive.

Well it definitely is a conspiracy. Aspartame was rejected by the FDA because it is poison. Donald Rumsfeld was apointed CEO of the company and had it railroaded back through with his Washington connections.

If you think sugar is good for you, I think you need more education on organic chemistry as it applies to human health. Refined sugar is not good for you either. Not at all.

Stevia is the natural choice for sweeteners. Safe, effective, delicious in correct quantities, helps you body regulate blood sugar levels, makes you more calm and relaxed. Get off the DOPE MAN!

aravoth
05-31-2009, 08:08 AM
Don't ingest this shit. Period.

ChaosControl
05-31-2009, 08:38 AM
It is nasty ****.

james1906
05-31-2009, 08:47 AM
Just a note.... I saw Pepsi and Mountain Dew made with real sugar at a local grocery store a couple days ago. It looks like these are out for a limited time.

Icymudpuppy
05-31-2009, 08:55 AM
Since reaching adulthood, I don't care for sweets in general. I prefer meat, potatoes, and vegetables. The sweetest thing I eat is wild strawberries, and home-pressed Apple Cider. I use sugar for baking Zucchini and Pumpkin bread, but I'm working on perfecting a recipe using honey instead.

Immortal Technique
05-31-2009, 09:06 AM
Try to find some gum without this crap in it.
Rummy sure made out well because of it.

AdamT
05-31-2009, 09:12 AM
Aspartame is a poison, brought to you by your good friend Donald Rumsfeld when he was CEO of Searle Pharm.

Liberty Star
05-31-2009, 09:29 AM
Yeah, apparently they use stevia there.

I bought some stevia extract today...like 1/2 tsp sweetend a gallon of tea. A bit of a bitter aftertaste.

We got Truvia from local store few days ago, it is supposed to be based on same thing but is not that sweet and does leave some odd after taste. Maybe got wrong brand.

donnay
05-31-2009, 09:38 AM
Yes, Rumsfeld made out like a bandit from aspartame (POISON). The next thing you ought to question is Tamiflu (http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/tamiflu.asp) which he has connections to and stands to make a killing (pun intended) on-- come this fall.

Agent CSL
05-31-2009, 09:48 AM
It is a poison! An acid!

Like anything, it's not going to kill you to have a little bit here and there. But, since it's now in so many foods, you can eat quite a bit of aspartame these days. Avoid it altogether. There are so many problems with aspartame I can't even begin to list them. Headaches, depression being the two main ones I've experienced. Do a self-experiment and eat aspartame-laden foods for a whole day (along with regular food to get your daily calories). You'll feel like shit.

Working Poor
05-31-2009, 07:25 PM
If you think sugar is good for you, I think you need more education on organic chemistry as it applies to human health. Refined sugar is not good for you either. Not at all.

This is very true refined sugar is also bad. Why do people feel like they need so much sweet stuff anyway? Why is junk food so prevalent in our grocery stores? Why do we keep buying it?

Almost everyone knows the stuff is plain bad. Yet people keep getting fatter and fatter and nobody seems to really care enough to get something done.

I write letters to companies that do things I don't like like wriggleys why the %$#@ are they putting aspartame in their gum? I write to companies that I like their stuff. These companies biggest concern is their bottom line if you buy what they are selling they will continue to make it, if you refuse to buy it or any other product of service you don't like the company looses money.

The peoples power is in what we buy. Refuse to buy junk foods or food that have artificial sweeteners and other toxic waste junk and see how fast the market adjust to the trend.

donnay
05-31-2009, 09:04 PM
The Aspartame Scandal
by Betty Martini (http://www.ppnf.org/catalog/ppnf/Articles/Aspartame.htm)


The Thalidomide of the 90’s is Aspartame, otherwise known as Equal, Nutrasweet or Spoonful.

In May, 1992 an article in Flying Safety Magazine explained the dangers of this ubiquitous substance. Some people have triggered aspartame related disorders with doses as small as that carried in a single stick of chewing gum. This could mean a pilot who drinks diet sodas is more susceptible to flicker vertigo or to flicker-induced epileptic activity. It also means that all pilots are potential victims of sudden memory loss, dizziness during instrument flight and gradual loss of vision. Some pilots have experienced grand mal seizures in the cockpits of commercial airline flights and have lost medical certification to fly -- and with it their careers.

The FDA has received more than 10,000 consumer complaints on Nutra-Poison. That’s 80% of all complaints about food additives, yet they remain comatose and have done nothing to alert the American consumer who assumes, since it’s so highly advertised, that it must be safe as mother’s milk.

If you are using aspartame and have headaches, depression, slurred speech, loss of memory, fibromyalgia type symptoms, loss of sensation in lower legs or shooting pains, loss of equilibrium, vertigo, anxiety attacks, chronic fatigue, vision loss, floaters, retinal detachment, seizures, heart palpitations, etc., you have Aspartame Disease! Many physicians are diagnosing multiple sclerosis when in reality it is methanol toxicity which mimics MS. Get off this dangerous drug right away. MS is not a death sentence, but methanol toxicity is!

Fifty-one percent of FDA approved drugs have serious risks and could cause adverse reactions that lead to severe or permanent disability or death. The Center for Disease Control, Johns Hopkins University and the New Jersey School of Medicine estimate that 80,000-120,000 Americans are killed by prescription drugs every year. That this atrocious holocaust persists has everything to do with money and nothing to do with public health. Monsanto reaps $2 billion per year from the Aspartame toxic bonanza. This can buy a lot of bureaucrats! Does FDA mean Fatal Drugs Allowed? The FDA works for industry, not citizens. FDA head Arthur Hayes overruled his own board of inquiry to approve aspartame and then went to work for their public relations firm. Federal attorney Sam Skinner was assigned to prosecute Searle for fraudulent tests in their application, but switched sides and went to work for Searle’s lawyers and the case died when the statute of limitations ran out. Honest FDA toxicologist, the late Dr. Adrian Gross, wrote to Senator Howard Metzenbaum: “The views of the FDA’s Center for Food Safety read like a script written for Abbott & Costello in the sense of their having perceptions inside-out and upside-down. ... FDA may have gone through the motions. ... such a ‘process’ or dance represents a farce and a mockery.”

Aspartame is a molecule composed of three components: aspartic acid, phenylalanine and methanol. Methanol is wood alcohol that has killed or blinded thousands of skid row drunks. It converts into formaldehyde and formic acid (ant sting poison) in the gut. Formaldehyde, a deadly neurotoxin, is common embalming fluid, a Class A carcinogen. Phenylalanine is also neurotoxic when unaccompanied by the other amino acids in proteins. Aspartic acid causes brain lesions and neuroendocrine disorders in experimental animals. There are 92 documented symptoms including headaches, numbness, fatigue, blurred vision, heart palpitations, memory loss, dizziness, muscle spasms, weight gain, seizures, rashes, blindness, tachycardia, tinnitus, joint pain, nausea, depression , hearing loss, irritability, slurred speech, anxiety attacks, loss of taste, vertigo and insomnia.

Nutrasweet is in about 9,000 foods and on every restaurant table for the same reasons tobacco is everywhere: Greed, Addiction and Profit! The NutraSweet Company and sister Searle, whose chemists discovered aspartame while testing an ulcer drug, are owned by Monsanto. If you are taking other medicine, consider possible reactions you may have. In 1969, Searle approached Dr. Harry Waisman to study the effects of aspartame on primates. Seven infant monkeys were fed the chemical in milk. One died after 300 days; five others had grand mal seizures. Searle deleted these findings when they submitted this study to the FDA! The best way to understand NutraSweet is to think of it as a minute dose of nerve gas that eradicates brain and nerve functions. Some diseases triggered by aspartame include brain tumors and other cancers, Alzheimers, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, epilepsy, mental retardation, fibromyalgia, lymphoma, Graves disease, birth defects, chronic fatigue syndrome, systemic lupus, Epstein Barr, Parkinsons and ... death!

Researchers at Massachusetts Institute of Technology surveyed 80 people who suffered brain seizures after eating or drinking products with aspartame. Said the Community Nutrition Institute: “These 80 cases meet the FDA’s own definition of an imminent hazard to the public health, which requires the FDA to expeditiously remove a product from the market.”

America is seeing a tremendous increase in seizures. Phenylalanine in aspartame lowers the seizure threshold in the brain and blocks serotonin production. Today our nation is swept by a rage of violence. Researchers attribute this in part to low brain serotonin levels inducing depression, rage and paranoia. So President Clinton, Diet Coke in hand, programs billions of dollars to buy penitentiaries for the paranoid. Fetal tissue cannot tolerate methanol and Dr. James Bowen calls NutraSweet instant birth control. The fetal placenta can concentrate phenylalanine and cause mental retardation. Aspartame tests on animals produced brain and mammary tumors. No wonder breast cancer is growing exponentially! During Operation Desert Storm truckloads of diet drinks cooked in the Arabian sun and at 86 degrees aspartame liberates methanol in the can! Thousands of service men and women returned home with chronic fatigue syndrome and weird toxic symptoms.

On July 28, 1993 the National Soft Drink Association drafted a 30-page protest questioning the safety of aspartame in soft drinks. Then they found weight-conscious Americans would sip soda all day if it was sugarless, so they forgot their objections; nor did they tell us that aspartame makes you crave carbohydrates and so you gain weight. The formaldehyde stores in the fat cells, particularly on the hips and thighs. Drink diet soda, get fat now and later develop seizures, diabetes, blindness, Epstein Barr, MS, depression and death.

Similarly, the American Diabetic Association, which now receives mega-funds from NutraSweet, ignored a 1987 abstract submitted by Dr. H. J. Roberts (world expert on aspartame and diabetic specialist) summarizing 58 diabetic aspartame reactors. He says: “I now advise all patients with diabetes and hypoglycemia to avoid aspartame products.” In his book Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills, Russell Blaylock, MD, a neurosurgeon, says aspartame may trigger clinical diabetes! He says that excitotoxins such as NutraSweet literally stimulate neurons to death, causing brain damage of varying degrees. “What really concerns me about aspartame,” he says, “is its association with brain tumors as well as pancreatic, uterine and ovarian tumors. ... and that so many develop an Alzheimers-like syndrome with prolonged exposure.”

NutraSweet/Equal/Spoonful are the deadliest toxins in our society because of their ubiquitous presence in thousands of foods, even vitamins, medicines, Kool Aid, Jell-O, diet foods and the packets on every restaurant table. We are dosed with millions of pounds every year. Every product containing aspartame should contain the following warning: Chemical Poison: Keep Out of Reach of Humans! Genocidal!

Betty Martini can be contacted at: bettym19@mindspring.com
Betty Martini's Web Page is http://www.dorway.com/betty

zach
05-31-2009, 09:10 PM
If you want a good sweetener, then I recommend Sun Crystals.

It's composed of cane sugar and Stevia.
If you don't mind 5 calories per thing, then it's a good deal.

And I don't care for artificial, chemically-laden products.
I'm a real person, dammit, not some experiment.

ssdded
06-01-2009, 11:23 AM
Try to find some gum without this crap in it.

Super Bubble. Maybe Bazooka.

Super Bubble I can verify, having just read the ingredients. Bazooka isn't incredibly sweet like many things with aspartame, so I don't think it has it.

As for aspartame, ignoring the apparent problems it has, it leaves a bad aftertaste in many things, so I try my best to avoid it.

Working Poor
06-01-2009, 11:41 AM
I wrote to "Wrigley" about my concern for it's gum having aspartame and got this BS letter back from them telling me that according to studies only.007% of people suffer any bad effects and blah blah blah..... I called them back after receiving this letter and told them I will never buy their gum again and I will be telling everyone I know not to buy it either. Here is the letter they sent me:


Dear Working Poor:

Thank you for writing to inquire about ingredients used in Wrigley products.

The Wrigley Company utilizes the high intensity sweetener, aspartame, in a number of our products - both as the primary sweetener in some of our sugar free brands and as a flavor enhancer in some of our sugar sweetened brands. As an ingredient, aspartame is beneficial because it provides an especially long lasting flavor. Because of its intense sweetening power (aspartame is about 200 times sweeter than sugar), it is used in very low amounts in foods and beverages, and only a miniscule amount is needed to enhance the flavor of chewing gum. For example, it would take approximately 40 sticks of Doublemint to equal the amount of aspartame in one can of diet soda.

Aspartame is a low-calorie sweetener composed of two amino acids - phenylalanine and aspartic acid - that occur naturally in protein-containing foods such as meat, grains and dairy products. The two amino acids are linked together by a methyl ester group that is also found naturally in fruits and vegetables.

Aspartame is quickly and completely metabolized in the body, just like any other protein. Upon digestion, aspartame breaks down into three components - aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol - that are then used by the body in the same way as those found in foods that are eaten everyday. In fact, those components are found in much greater amounts in many common foods. For example, a glass of tomato juice provides 6 times as much methanol as an equal amount of beverage sweetened with aspartame.

Since 1967, aspartame's safety has been documented in more than 200 objective scientific studies. These extensive studies - often involving amounts of aspartame many times higher than individuals could possibly consume in their everyday diet - have been reviewed by the United States Food and Drug Administration, the Center for Disease Control, the American Medical Association, the American Diabetes Association, the American Dietetic Association, Canada's Health Protection Branch, the European Commission's Scientific Committee on Foods, and by the experts of the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization and World Health Organization. In fact, over the past two years, health authorities in the European Union, United Kingdom, France, and Canada have conducted detailed reviews of aspartame and re-confirmed its safety.

All of these bodies, as well as the regulatory authorities in more than 100 countries, have found aspartame to be safe for use as a sweetener in food and beverages. Its safety has been confirmed overwhelmingly by all scientific evidence accumulated over the course of the past 37 years of testing. Of course, each and every ingredient used in Wrigley products is in full compliance with local food and health regulations.

It should be noted that a very small percentage of the population - 1 in 15,000 or approximately 0.007% - has a rare inherited disease known as Phenylketonuria (PKU) that prevents their bodies from properly handling phenylalanine. People with PKU are placed on a special diet with a severe restriction of phenylalanine from birth to adolescence or after so that they get just enough for proper growth and not too much as to cause adverse effects. Since individuals with PKU must consider aspartame as an additional source of phenylalanine, aspartame-containing foods must carry a statement on the label "Phenylketonurics: Contains Phenylalanine" in the U.S.

However, all chewing gums, even those using aspartame, contain calories. In primarily sugar-sweetened gums, the source is obvious; but in sugarfree gums, sugar replacers - such a sorbitol and mannitol - contribute a small number of calories. Of course, with a caloric count ranging between 5 and 10 calories per serving, chewing gum is much lower in calories than chocolate, soft drinks and many other snacks. If you have a sweet tooth, chewing a stick of gum can help you satisfy it while watching your weight. And, of course, chewing sugarfree gum can be quite beneficial to your dental health, particularly if chewed after a meal or sweet snack.

To find out more about aspartame visit www.aboutaspartame.com and www.caloriecontrol.org for more comprehensive and accurate information for consumers, the media, medical professionals and students. These websites also include sections addressing misinformation and unfounded allegations about aspartame safety that periodically surface in the media and on the Internet.

We hope this information has been helpful. If you have any additional questions or comments please feel free to contact us at 1-800-WRIGLEY Monday through Friday from 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. CST.

Sincerely,

Molly Flay
Consumer Affairs Representative




I say BS and more BS to this letter...

Krugerrand
06-01-2009, 11:53 AM
I went with "other" since "it tastes nasty" wasn't an option.

We bought some Target brand Iced Tea mix. It didn't list itself as reduced calorie in any way. It had sugar as one of the main ingredients. It also had something else listed (can't remember) that I looked up to find it was something like a nutra-sweet with a different name.

It too tasted nasty.

donnay
06-01-2009, 12:20 PM
I wrote to "Wrigley" about my concern for it's gum having aspartame and got this BS letter back from them telling me that according to studies only.007% of people suffer any bad effects and blah blah blah..... I called them back after receiving this letter and told them I will never buy their gum again and I will be telling everyone I know not to buy it either. Here is the letter they sent me:




I say BS and more BS to this letter...

I am with you on calling that a BS letter. A flavor enhancer? I think I would write back and challenge that right there---that is unadulterated BS! :rolleyes:

Rael
06-01-2009, 12:32 PM
I ended up voting Other. I think aspartame is probably bad for you, but I think refined sugar is even worse.

Working Poor
06-01-2009, 01:10 PM
I ended up voting Other. I think aspartame is probably bad for you, but I think refined sugar is even worse.

Nothing is worse than aspartame nothing...:eek:

Todd
06-01-2009, 06:08 PM
Yeah, apparently they use stevia there.

I bought some stevia extract today...like 1/2 tsp sweetend a gallon of tea. A bit of a bitter aftertaste.

There's a newer brand of Stevia that called NuStevia by Nu Naturals. It takes the bite out of the aftertaste. My wife and I are weaning ourselves off of soft drinks and I didn't like Stevia when we first tried it, but this new stuff is bearable.

anaconda
06-15-2009, 02:21 AM
Google Donald Rumsfeld and aspartame.

Channing
06-15-2009, 05:19 AM
I've also noticed that Aspartame can be addictive. Several people, including myself, who had started drinking diet soda regularly ended up drinking *only* diet soda for the daily liquid intake. I noticed that I couldn't go for a day without having my diet soda.

So if you regularly drink diet soda, try this experiment. Stop drinking your brand of diet soda with aspartame, for say 3 days, and see how you feel. You will probably notice that you will be craving it and can't be fulfilled by the sugar varieties.

I drank diet coke for 20 years and started getting floaters in my eyes. This only started to go away once I gave that up entirely.

heavenlyboy34
06-15-2009, 09:49 AM
Aspartame is bad for the nervous system (I speak from personal experience).

jsu718
06-15-2009, 09:52 AM
There is so much nonsense around about aspartame that it is almost silly. SOME people have problems with it, but the percentage isn't large. I personally have been drinking several people's share of diet soda daily for many many years and have never had a single issue... and when the occasion arose to quit for a week or month or several months I had no trouble doing that either.

Golding
06-15-2009, 10:35 AM
I think it's used as a sugar substitute.

*shrugs*

I put honey in my tea, so I don't really use much of it. I think I synthesized it once in chemistry...

ramallamamama
06-15-2009, 11:21 AM
source (http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_betty_ma_080217_hawaii_ban_aspartame.htm)

February 19, 2008

Hawaii Ban Aspartame Bill Ends in Political Paralysis

By Betty Martini



The Hawaii House Health Committee was to consider the bill to ban aspartame, but it never happened. Chairman Josh Green, M.D. deferred this lifesaving initiative, which means the committee won't be able to vote on the overwhelming testimony of renowned medical authorities, physicians and researchers that aspartame is a neurotoxin, unfit for human consumption, inflicting disabilities and death on multitudes. The committee didn't consider victims heart-wrenching testimonies. No "do pass" from the House of Representatives can come forth. Its political paralysis.

Paralysis is one of the 92 disabilities the Food & Drug Administration named in their 1995 list of aspartame reactions which they now deny ever existed. http://www.mpwhi.com/92_aspartame_symptoms.pdf FDA derived these from over 10,000 complaints volunteered by American consumers; more than those reported to FDA for any other additive. FDA slammed the complaint window in 1996 and have ignored all testimony and research, including over 100 damning scientific peer reviewed studies on the devastating consequence of consuming aspartame. Seizures, sexual dysfunction, birth defects, blindness, paranoia, diabetes, migraines, obesity, and its a multi-potential carcinogen concluded an award winning 3-year study on1,800 rats by Dr. M. Soffritti of the Ramazzini Institute. The 2005 study was peer reviewed by 7 world experts. His second study showed it only takes a small amount to cause cancer and if pregnant women use it and their baby survives the offspring can get cancer.

What matters is the pain, the suffering, the disability, this poison produces. It's cheaper than sugar, addictive and in thousands of foods & beverages with phony diet claims. Corporate interests trump consumer protection considerations. It's a moneymaker, so what if it's a killer?

One outstanding investigation headed by Dr. Maria Alemany, the Trocho Study, showed that formaldehyde from aspartame embalms living tissue and damages DNA, two horrible consequences. He eloquently wrote of governments failure to do the obvious: "I am very sorry that the health of so many people depends on a product that should not be available for human consumption, that is harmful and which long-time effects have not been established nor even investigated.

Alemany continued: The pressure we felt (and an unexplained drop in our financing) helped us to abandon further studies on aspartame.

Greg Gordon, UPI, reported on Dr. Richard Wurtmans study at MIT which established that phenylalanine, half of aspartame, damages brain function & causes seizures. http://www.wnho.net/upi_1987_aspartame1.htm He published a highly regarded book "Dietary Phenylalanine and Brain Function". Aspartame's maker sent a vice president to warn him if he did a study on aspartame seizures his funds would be rejected, and they were. Wurtman's book was removed and he spoke no more against aspartame. MIT now continues to get research funds. When a university or medical school takes corporate dollars they'll play any tune sugar daddy wants to hear. The RAO study which was pivotal in the approval of aspartame showed 5 of 7 infant monkeys fed aspartame in a 52 week oral toxicity study had grand mal seizures and one died. http://www.dorway.com/raoreport.txt Who's the monkey and who's the organ grinder? Figure it out!

Many times medical schools get their research funds from the International Life Sciences Institute, often called ILSI. The "Aspartame Technical Committee" consisting of NutraSweet Co., Ajinomoto, Coca Cola, PepsiCo, General Foods and many other manufacturers and users of aspartame have been accused of discriminating against NutraSweet critics in grant Research Funding awards.

The Hawaiian news is: they're working on a resolution to have the Department of Health study anecdotal reports. This is the same department that testified in favor of aspartame. They'll be able to keep this up for years. The reports are in, the research has been done! For 27 years anecdotal reports have piled up. Once they were called field research. Dr. H. J. Roberts encyclopedic medical text: "Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic" documents hundreds of them. They have poured into Mission Possible International by the thousands for 17 years. FDA had so many that in Congress it was explained the only way they could get rid of them is tell victims to send their complaints to the AIDS Hotline. Aspartame is poison, an addictive excitoneurotoxic carcinogenic drug that interacts with drugs and vaccines.

Said Dr. Charles Harris: The medical profession has a tendency to discard out of hand, and disparagingly, anecdotal information. Digitalis, morphine, quinine, atropine, and the like are chemical derivatives that stem from anecdotal folklore remedies. One anecdote may be a fable, but 1,000 anecdotes can be a biography. A vital function of the medical profession is to sift anecdotes and submit them, if possible, to scientific evaluation. But it all starts as an anecdote. (Medical Tribune)

When science and the public interest win out it is invariably only after the government has been pushed to the wall by consumer advocates and other public pressure explained honest FDA toxicologist, Dr. Jacqueline Verrett in her fine book "Eating Can Be Dangerous to Your Health, the Case Against Additives". Dr. Verrett exposed FDA for allowing aspartame and said in l987 to Congress that aspartame still had not been proven safe, and this was 6 years after it was on the market.

The mass poisoning of the world population by the producers and politicians who permit this poison is an international scandal only for profit. Thank you all: doctors, professionals, citizens and victims who rose to the occasion and wrote to protect our health and lives. Water wears away rock! As Frank Sinatra sang in "High Hopes": "Oops there goes a billion kilowatt dam!"

Chairman Representative Josh Green, M.D. was sent Dr. H. J. Roberts 1038 page medical text with peer reviewed research cited and chapters on diseases aspartame triggers along with the mechanism. There's a chapter on drug interaction, even information for trial lawyers. Every member of the House Health Committee was sent two packets. One had the timeline from the 17 page Ecologist of how Don Rumsfeld got aspartame on the market through political chicanery after the FDA had requested the original manufacturer, Searle, be indicted for fraud, and revoked Searle's petition for approval. http://www.mpwhi.com/ecologist_september_2005.doc

A second packet contained the aspartame documentary Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World, http://www.soundandfury.tv so every member of the committee could see and hear the world experts testimony as if they were standing there before them. They could hear D.C. Attorney, James Turner, tell about Rumsfeld's dealings, and how a US President wrote an executive order, now illegally removed from the record, making the FDA powerless to do anything about aspartame until he could get a new Commissioner to over-rule the Board of Inquiry that had revoked Searle's petition for approval. Searle CEO Donald Rumsfeld had been on Reagan's transition team. http://www.mpwhi.com/fda_petition1.doc

With all the testimony of world experts and researchers, the history, and victims testimony of nearly dying on aspartame, there was no doubt any reasonable member of the health committee would give it a "do pass". Why weren't they given this opportunity?

Diabetes is epidemic in Hawaii and aspartame precipitates the disease and simulates and aggravates diabetic retinopathy and neuropathy, destroys the optic nerve, interacts with drugs, causes diabetics to go into convulsions, can induce hypoglycemia, and even interacts with insulin. Would the banning of aspartame show there will be a state without an epidemic of diabetes like the rest of the world? The "Just Like Sugar" Company sent committee members complimentary bottles of a product safe for diabetics so they understood diabetics don't have to use poisons.

Aspartame is an abortifacient and teratogen causing birth defects and mental retardation without a warning. The Committee was given the URL for the Report For Schools which contained letters from experts and even Feingold, the ADD people, who banned aspartame from their diets: http://www.mpwhi.com/report_on_aspartame_and_children.htm

I have a question for Rep Josh Green? "You read the letter of Dr. Alemany and were given his study showing the formaldehyde converted from the free methyl alcohol in aspartame embalms living tissue and damages DNA, which can destroy humanity. With this research can you say aspartame is safe? If you answer yes, why are you a physician? If your answer is no, why didn't you allow the committee to vote, so killing the bill for this legislative session? Can you give me one reason for aspartame to be on the market when it has been shown for 27 years to cause addiction, diabetes, cardiac problems and sudden death, seizures, MS, lupus, all types of neurodegenerative diseases, cancer, birth defects, psychiatric disease and death? You received the research you asked for. Why did you not give your committee a chance to vote to free Hawaiians of a deadly poison in their food?

Representative Mele Carroll, my deepest gratitude for your compassion and concern in introducing the bill that could have removed a poison from the beautiful islands of Hawaii.

Dr. Betty Martini, D.Hum.
Founder, Mission Possible World Health International
9270 River Club Parkway
Duluth, Georgia 30097
770-242-2599
E-Mail: BettyM19@mindspring.com
http://www.wpwhi.com
http://www.whno.net
http://www.dorway.com

Aspartame Toxicity Center: http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame

jsu718
06-15-2009, 11:58 AM
10,000 complaints in 20 years... and 200 million people have ingested it. That's not a high value. 1 in 15,000 people can't break down phenylalanine... the complaints would indicate that 1 in 20,000 people had issues with it. Seems pretty normal to me. Nothing to panic about. You can be tested to see if you are going to have issues with it.

Call Me V
06-15-2009, 03:25 PM
A lot safer than sugar!

Sugar is the main culprit of high blood pressure, obesity, heart problems, cholesterol, blood sugar problems, etc.

Not fat as many have been taught.

I am a nutritionist and ex-bodybuilder renowned for my health.

sratiug
06-15-2009, 04:19 PM
10,000 complaints in 20 years... and 200 million people have ingested it. That's not a high value. 1 in 15,000 people can't break down phenylalanine... the complaints would indicate that 1 in 20,000 people had issues with it. Seems pretty normal to me. Nothing to panic about. You can be tested to see if you are going to have issues with it.

You have to know what is causing your problem to complain.

sratiug
06-15-2009, 04:22 PM
A lot safer than sugar!

Sugar is the main culprit of high blood pressure, obesity, heart problems, cholesterol, blood sugar problems, etc.

Not fat as many have been taught.

I am a nutritionist and ex-bodybuilder renowned for my health.

Is it safer than stevia? No. Does it taste as good? No. Does it have the health benefits of stevia? No.

If you are a nutritionist why do you defend this crap instead of recommending stevia?

anaconda
06-15-2009, 04:45 PM
There is so much nonsense around about aspartame that it is almost silly. SOME people have problems with it, but the percentage isn't large. I personally have been drinking several people's share of diet soda daily for many many years and have never had a single issue... and when the occasion arose to quit for a week or month or several months I had no trouble doing that either.

It is an excitotoxin and will fry your brain. It was originally intended to be an ant poison. Google Donald Rumsfeld and aspartame. Google The Slow Poisoning of America.

xtr3me
06-15-2009, 06:51 PM
i remember the day when it had its BIG RED warning, saying "This has been proven to cause cancer in lab animals", then it disappeared..... it was on the "pink sugar"

jsu718
06-15-2009, 07:17 PM
It is an excitotoxin and will fry your brain. It was originally intended to be an ant poison. Google Donald Rumsfeld and aspartame. Google The Slow Poisoning of America.

Google PKU. After that why don't you use google to see how many people consume aspartame to compare it to the 10,000 complaints over 28 years of use. I am not making this up. I am sure the Society for Neuroscience is bought and paid for also, right? And the FAO/WHO... sellouts too. And JECFA, EFSA, NZFSA, the National Cancer Institute, any many other organizations that know a whole lot more than the conspiracy theorists that you want me to get info from through Google. Don't believe everything you read on the internets. Get your research from people who actually do this as their job and not out of some unfounded hate for a simple sugar substitute.

Working Poor
06-15-2009, 07:51 PM
It kills people. I can't even touch it without risk of being hospitalized. Now they don't even have to put the aspartame symbol on the label so now I and people like me have to know all the names of all the different components that make nutri-sweet so I don't accidentally consume it. I have gotten it on my hand at a restaurant before and had to go to the hospital with sever chest pain and other heart symptoms.

Get your research from people who actually do this as their job and not out of some unfounded hate for a simple sugar substitute.

Simple? The hell you say...
You need to do your research the stuff was first classified as a bio weapon by the DOD. The FDA receives more complaints about nutri-sweet and it's look a likes than for any other substance. !0,000 complaints and month is probably more like it.

AggieforPaul
06-15-2009, 07:59 PM
I hope not, because I drink a lot of coke zero. I never drink regular sodas, because I don;t like getting any calories from high fructose corn syrup. I'm in good shape, and don't want to change that by drinking regular soda.

anaconda
06-16-2009, 12:53 AM
Google PKU. After that why don't you use google to see how many people consume aspartame to compare it to the 10,000 complaints over 28 years of use. I am not making this up. I am sure the Society for Neuroscience is bought and paid for also, right? And the FAO/WHO... sellouts too. And JECFA, EFSA, NZFSA, the National Cancer Institute, any many other organizations that know a whole lot more than the conspiracy theorists that you want me to get info from through Google. Don't believe everything you read on the internets. Get your research from people who actually do this as their job and not out of some unfounded hate for a simple sugar substitute.


Don't you wonder about the prevalence & increase in dementia of the elderly now? That spent a good chunk of their lives eating processed food over the last several decades? I'm not talking about cancer. I'm talking about excitotoxins gradually frying brain cells. The Rumsfeld-FDA scandal is legendary.

tpreitzel
06-16-2009, 01:02 AM
*shrugs* I haven't really looked into it, but I don't buy "diet" food/drinks, so I'm not too worried.

Actually, aspartame is in a lot more processed foods than diet foods or drinks, but those food groups likely constitute two of the largest sources of it...

jsu718
06-16-2009, 01:08 AM
Don't you wonder about the prevalence & increase in dementia of the elderly now? That spent a good chunk of their lives eating processed food over the last several decades? I'm not talking about cancer. I'm talking about excitotoxins gradually frying brain cells. The Rumsfeld-FDA scandal is legendary.

I think you only have a very loose grasp on what excitotoxicity is. Studies have already shown that aspartame has a very negligible effect on the level of glutamate in the blood plasma, and the body itself produces more glutamate than any reasonable intake of MSG or aspartame would... plus the human brain is protected against it unlike the nerves that they "tested" to be destroyed by glutamate.
As for dementia, there is a whole lot more support for it being caused by genetics or cooking with aluminum than by glutamate and processed foods.


It kills people. I can't even touch it without risk of being hospitalized. Now they don't even have to put the aspartame symbol on the label so now I and people like me have to know all the names of all the different components that make nutri-sweet so I don't accidentally consume it. I have gotten it on my hand at a restaurant before and had to go to the hospital with sever chest pain and other heart symptoms.

Simple? The hell you say...
You need to do your research the stuff was first classified as a bio weapon by the DOD. The FDA receives more complaints about nutri-sweet and it's look a likes than for any other substance. !0,000 complaints and month is probably more like it.
Just because you have PKU doesn't mean everyone else does. You are probably the 1 out of 15,000 that do. And I have researched BOTH sides of the issue. You apparently have just accepted what has been fed to you.
And for the record, it is not 10,000 complaints in a month... it is 10,000 TOTAL over the course of the last 28 years.

Working Poor
06-16-2009, 05:55 AM
And for the record, it is not 10,000 complaints in a month... it is 10,000 TOTAL over the course of the last 28 years.


Yea right. The FDA has gotten more complaints about aspartame than any other substance in the history of the FDA. I am sure more than10,000 doctors alone have complained about this. I probably know at least 1000 people myself that have complained about it. At the very least they should still have to put the symbol on the label so people like me won't accidentally eat something with it in it. It sounds like you work for the company who makes the stuff.

Working Poor
06-16-2009, 07:39 AM
I think people are becoming very nonchalant about substances that cause death. Which to me just proves that population control thru death by food substances and drugs is shockingly real.

When I see a drug advertisement that says blatantly on TV that one of the known side effects is death for a small percentage of people I just can't believe that people think this is okay.

lynnf
06-16-2009, 07:52 AM
aspartame = Neurotoxin


lynn

sratiug
06-16-2009, 07:55 AM
Google PKU. After that why don't you use google to see how many people consume aspartame to compare it to the 10,000 complaints over 28 years of use. I am not making this up. I am sure the Society for Neuroscience is bought and paid for also, right? And the FAO/WHO... sellouts too. And JECFA, EFSA, NZFSA, the National Cancer Institute, any many other organizations that know a whole lot more than the conspiracy theorists that you want me to get info from through Google. Don't believe everything you read on the internets. Get your research from people who actually do this as their job and not out of some unfounded hate for a simple sugar substitute.

How about let's start with the FDA. Are you going to tell us the FDA is a professional orgnization with no history of corruption?

TGGRV
06-16-2009, 08:04 AM
Aspartame:
YouTube - Diet Tips: Diet Soda Will Make You Gain Weight! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nscWKkAGAw)
Check it out. It causes brain damage and shit in mice. lol. I'm glad I don't ingest anything like this.
Splenda:
YouTube - The Truth about Splenda/Sucralose! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYh5bkwyuRs)

paulitics
06-16-2009, 08:26 AM
10,000 complaints in 20 years... and 200 million people have ingested it. That's not a high value. 1 in 15,000 people can't break down phenylalanine... the complaints would indicate that 1 in 20,000 people had issues with it. Seems pretty normal to me. Nothing to panic about. You can be tested to see if you are going to have issues with it.

You don't understand statistics. Number of complaints does not = number of problems. There is a ratio. Perhaps 1 in 100 go through the trouble to actually complain if they have a problem with something. And this isn't like complaining about soggy frenchfries, or a bad experience with a cellphone salesperson...this is a problem that slowly creeps up on you and is hard to detect and isolate. One time is not going to hurt anyone, but over time it can have serious side effects.

paulitics
06-16-2009, 08:51 AM
Google PKU. After that why don't you use google to see how many people consume aspartame to compare it to the 10,000 complaints over 28 years of use. I am not making this up. I am sure the Society for Neuroscience is bought and paid for also, right? And the FAO/WHO... sellouts too. And JECFA, EFSA, NZFSA, the National Cancer Institute, any many other organizations that know a whole lot more than the conspiracy theorists that you want me to get info from through Google. Don't believe everything you read on the internets. Get your research from people who actually do this as their job and not out of some unfounded hate for a simple sugar substitute.

Yes, and cloned meat is also good for you. The FDA says so. Sacchrine was good for you (the government told me so) Margarine was good for me (the government told me so) GMO foods are great for you and the environment (the government says so). Organic foods are dangerous (the government says so). The carbohydrate heavy food pyramid was correct (the government told me so).

The earth was cooling due to man (scientists said so) , and the earth is warming due to man (scientists said so).

I can go on and on. But fine, just believe every piece of garbage that will HAVE TO be retracted in 20 years with a big OOPS, we did it again. Or you can actually use the brain God gave you to actually think, not just read.

paulitics
06-16-2009, 08:58 AM
How about let's start with the FDA. Are you going to tell us the FDA is a professional orgnization with no history of corruption?

To think otherwise is just a conspiracy theory. Do actually think cloned meat is bad for you? Or GMO foods with undigestible proteins? Nah, the human body is built to digest metal cans if it has to.

Just stay away fom that organic stuff that was made by GOD, that is dangerous and can kill you.

Athan
01-02-2012, 01:37 AM
Its like drinking anti-freeze. Don't take that shit.

specialK
01-02-2012, 01:48 AM
Aspartame is a poison, brought to you by your good friend Donald Rumsfeld when he was CEO of Searle Pharm.

That was the turning point for me, when I found that out. As a habitual diet coke drinker, even if the stuff wasn't bad for me, just the idea of him making money from it was incentive enough to stop drinking it.

kuckfeynes
01-02-2012, 02:05 AM
Trying to fake out your taste buds with chemicals in general just seems like a bad idea. I avoid commercial drinks in general like the plague. Some of them really elicit serious drug-addict behavior in certain people...

ryanmkeisling
01-02-2012, 02:48 AM
Yes, and cloned meat is also good for you. The FDA says so. Sacchrine was good for you (the government told me so) Margarine was good for me (the government told me so) GMO foods are great for you and the environment (the government says so). Organic foods are dangerous (the government says so). The carbohydrate heavy food pyramid was correct (the government told me so).

The earth was cooling due to man (scientists said so) , and the earth is warming due to man (scientists said so).

I can go on and on. But fine, just believe every piece of garbage that will HAVE TO be retracted in 20 years with a big OOPS, we did it again. Or you can actually use the brain God gave you to actually think, not just read.
This^^^^
Some people think everything is just right in society, even some really smart people. Even people who support Ron Paul. They are smart enough to know that their government is corrupt and needs changing but dumb enough to think it isn't on a grand scale. Let them be, they deserve it.

Warrior_of_Freedom
01-02-2012, 03:32 AM
Aspartame is a chemical, not a food. Asking if aspartame is safe is like asking if ingesting fluoride is safe. I used to drink diet coke all the time when I was younger, thank god I found out about the poison I was ingesting before I got a disease from it.

anaconda
01-02-2012, 04:47 AM
http://www.rense.com/general67/rum.htm

donnay
01-02-2012, 08:11 AM
Aspartame is a strain of E-coli. Actually it is the excrement of GMO E-coli.

Sources:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/worlds-top-sweetener-is-made-with-gm-bacteria-1101176.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP0036258.html
http://www.elliscountyobserver.com/2011/11/06/alex-jones-what-is-aspartame-it-is-the-fecal-matter-of-e-coli/
http://www.bodycurednaturally.com/the-secrets-and-dangers-of-aspartame/

mosquitobite
01-02-2012, 08:13 AM
I was sick all day yesterday. Asked my husband to pick up some ginger ale for me. He came home with DIET. I whined like only a sick woman could whine. Told him to throw it away because it won't be drank in this house.

Suzu
01-02-2012, 08:27 AM
All I can tell you for sure is my own experience with aspartame.

Long before artificial sweeteners of any sort existed, I had stopped consuming sweets in any form. And I was very strict about it. I wouldn't even consume honey or anything with honey in it. I prepared most of my own food and when I bought any prepared food, I read labels and rejected anything with any form of "sweetener" in it. Anything ending in "ose" (like fructose) I would not eat.

If you avoid something that long and then take it in, you notice the effects. As of the day I accidentally consumed a tiny quantity of aspartame, I had been avoiding sweeteners in all forms for about 25 years. (And I didn't miss them at all. Few people realize that the natural sugars in many foods can be appreciated if one chews it thoroughly.)

It was on Thanksgiving Day in 1997 that I unwittingly consumed aspartame for the first (and only) time. I had prepared dinner for about a dozen people - huge turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, fresh cranberries sweetened with grape juice, salads and several cooked vegetable side dishes. Guests brought desserts to share. One was an apple pie from Safeway, labeled "sugar free". I naively assumed it contained no sweetener, as I had been baking apple pies using only salt and lemon (which bring out the natural sweetness of apples) for more than 20 years.

So I ate a tiny slice - about 1" wide at the wide end - of that pie. Actually, I only ate about half of the small slice. It was all I could handle after such a large and elaborate dinner. I hadn't looked at the label on the box - someone had removed the pie from it and discarded it before I had a chance.

The next morning I got a big surprise. I won't go into detail here other than to say I was certain at the time that I was dying. During the horrid experience, it occurred to me that there might have been some strange ingredient in the store-bought pie, and that might be why I was so ill.

Later on, I dug through the trash for the Safeway apple pie box. Aspartame was listed as an ingredient. I haven't touched aspartame since (this experience taught me a lesson I will never forget about reading labels), and have never had another experience like the one I had about 12 hours after eating whatever minuscule amount of aspartame was in the tablespoon or so of Safeway pie I consumed.

vechorik
01-02-2012, 08:42 AM
I'm not sure what to think, but I've started trying to avoid it just in case.

I'm a vet, having some urinary tract problems. The VA told me to "avoid aspartame and caffeine"

donnay
01-02-2012, 09:17 AM
I get excruciating migraines from consuming aspartame. It first starts out as white squiggly lines in my eyes then it turns into flashing white lights that blind me. MSG does the same thing to me. Both aspartame and MSG are excitotoxins.