GOP Civil War Over Sotomayor

[clb09]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/29/top-republican-calls-limbaugh-gingrich-comments-terrible-2/


"I think it's terrible," Sen. John Cornyn, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, told NPR's "All Things Considered" Thursday. "This is not the kind of tone any of us want to set when it comes to performing our constitutional responsibilities of advise and consent.”

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[ghengis86]

hopefully the GOP will be the 21st century Whigs in a few months

[Krugerrand]

The Democrats took down Harriet Miers nomination and got Samuel Alito in her place. I would think that they are kicking themselves for that. (I say "Democrats" because they had the votes to get her through even with the split GOP support.)

It's been hard to find too much out about Sotomayor ... but there are a lot of other possible appointees that, with certainty, I know would scare me.

Lesson ... be careful with the protesting. The DEMs have the votes for it to be worse.

[apropos]

Lesson ... be careful with the protesting. The DEMs have the votes for it to be worse.

No thank you for the lesser of two evils. Who is to say this is not the Alito of the Miers/Alito analogy? I would call your senators and tell them to oppose confirmation.


Sonia Sotomayor on Gun Rights and Racial Preferences

Why libertarians—and everyone who believes in limited government—should worry about Barack Obama's Supreme Court nominee

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"It is settled law," Sotomayor and the Second Circuit held, "that the Second Amendment applies only to limitations the federal government seeks to impose on this right."

http://reason.com/news/show/133722.html



I don't see how someone can agree with Ron Paul and refuse to make an effort to combat this nomination.

[heavenlyboy34]

hopefully the GOP will be the 21st century Whigs in a few months

+a zillion!:D

[Krugerrand]

No thank you for the lesser of two evils. Who is to say this is not the Alito of the Miers/Alito analogy? I would call your senators and tell them to oppose confirmation.

I don't see how someone can agree with Ron Paul and refuse to make an effort to combat this nomination.

You may very well be right. Judicial nominations were my biggest fear from this administration. That's the part that will have the longest lasting consequences and be hardest to fix.

[Number19]

...I don't see how someone can agree with Ron Paul and refuse to make an effort to combat this nomination.This statement is a little confusing. It was made in response to a quote from REASON MAGAZINE, which said :

"...Equally troubling is Sotomayor's record on the Second Amendment. This past January, the Second Circuit issued its opinion in Maloney v. Cuomo, which Sotomayor joined, ruling that the Second Amendment does not apply against state and local governments..."It is settled law," Sotomayor and the Second Circuit held, "that the Second Amendment applies only to limitations the federal government seeks to impose on this right."...".

Sotomayer is not too far wrong, or off base, with this opinion. This concept is known as "state's rights" and recognizes that originally the Constitution did only limit the federal government and not the states. She is wrong in so far as this opinion fails to recognize that Lincoln's little war overturned the original Republic and, through the 14th Amendment, made the federal government supreme.

If Sotomayer would apply this principle ( supremacy of state's rights over federal power ) consistently in her rulings, this would be very good and very much in agreement with Ron Paul. The problem, of course, is that she, IMO, is not a strict constitutionalist, nor consistent in this interpretation of the law.

[Minarchy4Sale]

This statement is a little confusing. It was made in response to a quote from REASON MAGAZINE, which said :

"...Equally troubling is Sotomayor's record on the Second Amendment. This past January, the Second Circuit issued its opinion in Maloney v. Cuomo, which Sotomayor joined, ruling that the Second Amendment does not apply against state and local governments..."It is settled law," Sotomayor and the Second Circuit held, "that the Second Amendment applies only to limitations the federal government seeks to impose on this right."...".

Sotomayer is not too far wrong, or off base, with this opinion. This concept is known as "state's rights" and recognizes that originally the Constitution did only limit the federal government and not the states. She is wrong in so far as this opinion fails to recognize that Lincoln's little war overturned the original Republic and, through the 14th Amendment, made the federal government supreme.

If Sotomayer would apply this principle ( supremacy of state's rights over federal power ) consistently in her rulings, this would be very good and very much in agreement with Ron Paul. The problem, of course, is that she, IMO, is not a strict constitutionalist, nor consistent in this interpretation of the law.

The problem is that her decision is clearly politically motivated. Either all of the protections of the bill or rights apply to the states, or none do. People like Sotomayor dont get to pick and choose.

[Imperial]

It is political suicide to touch Sotomayor. And Obama knew this. It was a strategy game. It is sickening.

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

The problem is that her decision is clearly politically motivated. Either all of the protections of the bill or rights apply to the states, or none do. People like Sotomayor dont get to pick and choose.

Yea, I'm the same way. The State I'm living in doesn't get to choose willy-nilly which of my Constitutional Rights apply to them as there is also the 9th and 10th Amendments which GUARANTEE that citizens have unlimited rights.

[tonesforjonesbones]

The GOP MUST refrain from playing politics and RAKE this socialist woman over the coals...or royally piss off their base even more. tones

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

It's sad to see even some of the more genuine conservatives cowering because they're afraid of having the race card pulled on them. It's like they believe everyone else follows the media's view of hypersensitivity to race and reverse-racism. I refuse to think the majority of the American people are these spineless sissies who will fall to worship Sotomayor if someone dares criticize her on legit issues and they get "racist" screeched back in their faces.

"Racist" is the new refrain to replace "fascist" for the left.

[heavenlyboy34]

The GOP MUST refrain from playing politics and RAKE this socialist woman over the coals...or royally piss off their base even more. tones

I thought you were done with the GOP...maybe I'm thinking of someone else, though. :confused:

[Cowlesy]

Screw that, she's a fucking racist, anti-american, anti-freedom, anti-2nd Amendment, anti-1st Amendment piece-of-shit scumbag.

In my opinion, some of her rulings against freedom and her inability to be impartial on a major U.S. Court are almost treasonous.

If the GOP and freedom-loving DEMS puss out on raking her over the coals and exposing her for her anti-american views, it is just further proof that they do not represent US.

[Cowlesy]

I'm sorry. I know she has a story that involves toil and working hard, but if you're going to be a JUDGE in the UNITED STATES, you CANNOT let your racist/socialist prejudices get in the way of BEING IMPARTIAL.

Her STATEMENTS ALONE prove that she cannot divorce herself from using race or social issues in her rulings.

[Number19]

Yea, I'm the same way. The State I'm living in doesn't get to choose willy-nilly which of my Constitutional Rights apply to them as there is also the 9th and 10th Amendments which GUARANTEE that citizens have unlimited rights.Don't get me wrong; I do not support the Sotomayor nomination. But still, the historical truth is that NONE of the protections guaranteed in the Bill of Rights applied to the states, until the civil war amendments were passed. Each of the individual states, in their state constitutions, did, however, guarantee these same basic rights.

If you lived through the 60's, or learned your American history, the southern State's Rights political movement, led by Alabama's Governor Wallace, was the last realistic attempt to enforce the original intent of the founding fathers. The importance of this is often lost within the importance of the civil rights movement.

[kahless]

I joined the party because of Ron Paul and stayed to help change it from within. This Sotomayor thing is a post election test for allot of us to see if there is a future in this party.
If they are going to cower in fear because of her race and continue to promote Neocon candidates-values then it is time to call the party over. This fear of how the MSM is going to react to party values and catering to left has also got to stop now.

People are going to need to decide soon which existing party our efforts should be directed to (i.e Libertarian) or building a new 3rd party if it looks like the Republican party is truely finished.

[Number19]

I joined the party because of Ron Paul and stayed to help change it from within. This Sotomayor thing is a post election test for allot of us to see if there is a future in this party.
If they are going to cower in fear because of her race and continue to promote Neocon candidates-values then it is time to call the party over. This fear of how the MSM is going to react to party values and catering to left has also got to stop now.

People are going to need to decide soon which existing party our efforts should be directed to (i.e Libertarian) or building a new 3rd party if it looks like the Republican party is truely finished.Your timing is wrong on this concern. The Ron Paul movement is working all the way down to the precinct level in your local communities to effect change from within the Republican Party. The effects of this won't show until the 2010 elections, continuing through the 2012 election cycle. So don't be impatient.

[apropos]

If they are going to cower in fear because of her race and continue to promote Neocon candidates-values then it is time to call the party over. This fear of how the MSM is going to react to party values and catering to left has also got to stop now.

Very true. If the opposition can control the debate like the MSM and Dems have been trying to do, the GOP might as well pack it in.