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bobbyw24
05-26-2009, 05:55 AM
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jackers
05-26-2009, 07:53 AM
Does anyone know anything about her? I am doing some research right now.

Andrew-Austin
05-26-2009, 07:55 AM
What I know so far:

-She grew up in a Bronx public works project
-Went to Princeton
-Parents immigrating to American from Puerto Rico

Elwar
05-26-2009, 08:00 AM
The NPR story on her this morning was horrible.

Summary: She's latino, she's got a great story...umm...she has a great story...what a great story...

As far as why Republicans won't be able to stop her...because she's hispanic.

LittleLightShining
05-26-2009, 08:01 AM
She has said that she believes the bench is a place to set policy. She went to Catholic school...

tonesforjonesbones
05-26-2009, 08:12 AM
Yes..that's disturbing..she believes the Court of Appeals is for setting policy and legislating...this is not good..although we knew we were going to get some socialist shill from Obama. tones

Prester John
05-26-2009, 08:21 AM
"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn't lived that life." -- Judge Sonia Sotomayor, in her Judge Mario G. Olmos Law and Cultural Diversity Lecture at the University of California (Berkeley) School of Law in 2001

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/print_friendly.php?ID=or_20090 523_2724

Semper Vigilans
05-26-2009, 09:14 AM
Anybody want to take bets over whether or not she's paid her taxes? We'll find out soon enough. :p

LibertyEagle
05-26-2009, 09:17 AM
She has said that she believes the bench is a place to set policy.

Just when you wonder if it can get any worse, you find out that yes, it can. :(

Crash Martinez
05-26-2009, 09:20 AM
She ended the MLB strike of '95 by ruling against the owners.

PaleoPaul
05-26-2009, 10:01 AM
Well, it could have been Jennifer Granholm or Janet Napolitano.

Brian4Liberty
05-26-2009, 10:53 AM
YouTube - Judge Sonia Sotomayor: Court is Where Policy is Made (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfC99LrrM2Q)

TonySutton
05-26-2009, 10:59 AM
One quote I have seen so far that gives a glimmer of hope


At her Senate confirmation hearing more than a decade ago, she said, "I don't believe we should bend the Constitution under any circumstance. It says what it says. We should do honor to it."

We will see if her rulings reflect the same sentiment.

Dr.3D
05-26-2009, 11:03 AM
One quote I have seen so far that gives a glimmer of hope



We will see if her rulings reflect the same sentiment.

Well, they all say that. It's just that they seem to think they can make the constitution say anything they think it should say.

Gideon
05-26-2009, 12:08 PM
Let's just sit by quietly and see how much "hope and change" she can provide in her first 100 days before we critique her.

Then we can say, "but she has only been here 100 days, give her more time!"

After a year has passed, we can just shrug our shoulders, turn to each other and say, "Welcome to the Gulag, Comrades!"

Barry's got a new girl!

Reason
05-26-2009, 12:15 PM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104530389&sc=nl&cc=nh-20090526

Reason
05-26-2009, 12:28 PM
YouTube - Supreme Court Nominee Sonia Sotomayor's Statement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QALb4D0G9Ns)

GunnyFreedom
05-26-2009, 12:29 PM
Just when you wonder if it can get any worse, you find out that yes, it can. :(

Meh. From what I have dug up, she is marginally less egregious than the Souter she is replacing. I don't think things have gotten worse, just kept the status quo really.

Seriously, with the numbers in the House and Senate right now it could have been worse. It could have been A LOT worse.

And seeing how horrifically bad it could have been, I have to think of 'maintaining the status quo' on the USSC as almost a kind of victory. It almost seems that Barry O is afraid of us enough to not take advantage of the insane Dem majorities to install a liberal activist wingnut. The fact that he DIDN'T, is a bright spot in an otherwise rainy day.

That said, I have NO CLUE what her take on RKBA is. :confused:

Reason
05-26-2009, 12:30 PM
YouTube - Conservatives Cite New Republic Article To Attack Sotomayor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLHX15iGNcs)

GunnyFreedom
05-26-2009, 12:35 PM
I think CR's vid posted above is a BAD strategy on the part of the GOP. Work up enough angst and Obama could easily say "F-you guys, I'm changing my mind and will appoint Janet Napolitano."

V3n
05-26-2009, 12:39 PM
Here's my favorite quote...


Obama and Sotomayor stood with Vice President Joe Biden. It was a striking picture of diversity: a black president, a white vice president and a Hispanic nominee to the nation's highest court.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D98E06C80&show_article=1

My heart grew 3 sizes just imagining what it must have looked like!

(somebody get this man a cold shower - stat!)

emazur
05-26-2009, 12:48 PM
http://open.salon.com/blog/paul_levinson/2009/05/02/sotomayors_bad_1st_amendment_decision_should_disqu alify_her
But she has one major, very bad decision on free speech and press to her discredit, which should give everyone who values these freedoms in our society serious cause for concern about Sotomayor's possible nomination to the High Court.

The decision came from Sotomayor's Second Circuit Court last May, regarding Lewis Mills High School student Avery Doninger. While running for Senior Class Secretary, Ms. Doninger found reason to object to the school's cancellation of a "jamfest" event, and characterized those who scotched the event as "douchebags" on her off-campus LiveJournal blog (she also characterized a school official in that same blog posting as getting "pissed off"). The school officials, in turn, took umbrage, prohibited Avery from running for Class Secretary, and disregarded the plurality of votes she received, anyway, as a write-in candidate. Avery sued the school officials, and the Federal District Court supported the school. Avery appealed to Sotomayor's Second Circuit Court.

After acknowledging the Supreme Court's 1969 Tinker decision, which held that students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate," Sotomayor's Court proceeded to affirm the District Court's ruling - that is, Sonia Sotomayor and her colleague justices upheld the high school's right to punish Doninger for her off-campus speech. Their reasoning was that schools have an obligation to impart to their students "shared values," which include not only the importance of free expression but a "proper respect for authority".

GunnyFreedom
05-26-2009, 01:04 PM
http://open.salon.com/blog/paul_levinson/2009/05/02/sotomayors_bad_1st_amendment_decision_should_disqu alify_her
But she has one major, very bad decision on free speech and press to her discredit, which should give everyone who values these freedoms in our society serious cause for concern about Sotomayor's possible nomination to the High Court.

The decision came from Sotomayor's Second Circuit Court last May, regarding Lewis Mills High School student Avery Doninger. While running for Senior Class Secretary, Ms. Doninger found reason to object to the school's cancellation of a "jamfest" event, and characterized those who scotched the event as "douchebags" on her off-campus LiveJournal blog (she also characterized a school official in that same blog posting as getting "pissed off"). The school officials, in turn, took umbrage, prohibited Avery from running for Class Secretary, and disregarded the plurality of votes she received, anyway, as a write-in candidate. Avery sued the school officials, and the Federal District Court supported the school. Avery appealed to Sotomayor's Second Circuit Court.

After acknowledging the Supreme Court's 1969 Tinker decision, which held that students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate," Sotomayor's Court proceeded to affirm the District Court's ruling - that is, Sonia Sotomayor and her colleague justices upheld the high school's right to punish Doninger for her off-campus speech. Their reasoning was that schools have an obligation to impart to their students "shared values," which include not only the importance of free expression but a "proper respect for authority".

Yeah, OK. That's disturbing. No argument there. Still think she is at the same 'level' as Souter, but then I found a lot of what Souter does disturbing too...

t0rnado
05-26-2009, 01:16 PM
http://open.salon.com/blog/paul_levinson/2009/05/02/sotomayors_bad_1st_amendment_decision_should_disqu alify_her
But she has one major, very bad decision on free speech and press to her discredit, which should give everyone who values these freedoms in our society serious cause for concern about Sotomayor's possible nomination to the High Court.

The decision came from Sotomayor's Second Circuit Court last May, regarding Lewis Mills High School student Avery Doninger. While running for Senior Class Secretary, Ms. Doninger found reason to object to the school's cancellation of a "jamfest" event, and characterized those who scotched the event as "douchebags" on her off-campus LiveJournal blog (she also characterized a school official in that same blog posting as getting "pissed off"). The school officials, in turn, took umbrage, prohibited Avery from running for Class Secretary, and disregarded the plurality of votes she received, anyway, as a write-in candidate. Avery sued the school officials, and the Federal District Court supported the school. Avery appealed to Sotomayor's Second Circuit Court.

After acknowledging the Supreme Court's 1969 Tinker decision, which held that students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate," Sotomayor's Court proceeded to affirm the District Court's ruling - that is, Sonia Sotomayor and her colleague justices upheld the high school's right to punish Doninger for her off-campus speech. Their reasoning was that schools have an obligation to impart to their students "shared values," which include not only the importance of free expression but a "proper respect for authority".

She shouldn't be a judge anywhere but in a kangaroo court in the Soviet Union.

angelatc
05-26-2009, 01:18 PM
One quote I have seen so far that gives a glimmer of hope



We will see if her rulings reflect the same sentiment.

They don't. Check out http://volokh.com/posts/1243364120.shtml .

But it isn't like he was ever going to pick somebody we like.

NYgs23
05-26-2009, 01:20 PM
She'd have to be pretty bad to make things worse. She's only replacing the horrible Souter, and the other two judges Barack's likely to replace are Ginsburg and Stevens, also horrible.

Reason
05-26-2009, 02:19 PM
YouTube - White House Explains Sonia Sotomayor's "YouTube Clip" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMC47FDVsLg)

GunnyFreedom
05-27-2009, 10:29 AM
Just got an e-mail from Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) says she is opposed to RKBA; that she believes any locality can rightly ban firearms period.

I still have not seen links/evidence to support this, but if true it makes her clearly worse that Souter.

akihabro
05-27-2009, 11:09 AM
YouTube - White House Explains Sonia Sotomayor's "YouTube Clip" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMC47FDVsLg)

Ever notice at these press conferences the same people sit at the front? The same mundane questions are asked. The ones who get picked to ask the questions are the ones who continually kowtow to the administration.

Eric Arthur Blair
05-27-2009, 11:38 AM
You can not have a country that has 30+ million Hispanics in it and refuse a job to a Hispanic women who had the honesty to admit she will put her own people first. That's called reality people.

AutoDas
05-27-2009, 12:07 PM
You can not have a country that has 30+ million Hispanics in it and refuse a job to a Hispanic women who had the honesty to admit she will put her own people first. That's called reality people.

Where has she said she would put "her people first"? And she isn't entitled to a job just because she has 30+ illegal immigrants who came for the welfare and to escape the drug war in their homeland.

georgiaboy
05-27-2009, 12:13 PM
I just wanna know what McCain thinks about her. If she's alright with him, she's ok w/me.


HAHAAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAH!!!!! WWWHHHHEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

jclay2
05-27-2009, 12:14 PM
Can someone comment on the constitutionality of her judgment to end the baseball strike in 95? I was too young to even remember this. My gut feelings are that this was highly unconstitutional because it is meddling in the affairs of private owners. Anyone else have a link discussing this subject.

Krugerrand
05-27-2009, 12:18 PM
Can someone comment on the constitutionality of her judgment to end the baseball strike in 95? I was too young to even remember this. My gut feelings are that this was highly unconstitutional because it is meddling in the affairs of private owners. Anyone else have a link discussing this subject.

I'm not sure if the anti-trust exemption of MLB would potentially open them to government meddling.

BlackTerrel
05-28-2009, 12:19 AM
Where has she said she would put "her people first"? And she isn't entitled to a job just because she has 30+ illegal immigrants who came for the welfare and to escape the drug war in their homeland.

I believe the number is over 30 million and most of them aren't illegal.

AutoDas
05-28-2009, 12:25 AM
Okay

sophocles07
05-28-2009, 10:47 AM
she believes the Court of Appeals is for setting policy and legislating

Well, ...your sounding like Hannity. It's not as sinister as that.

She means that the court sets precedent, and in that sets policy--they establish precedent, they establish the interpretation of a law. This shouldn't be controversial.

She also didn't say:


"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn't lived that life." -- Judge Sonia Sotomayor, in her Judge Mario G. Olmos Law and Cultural Diversity Lecture at the University of California (Berkeley) School of Law in 2001

Which is the current dumbass Republican talking point.

She said, the whole quote:


I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life. Each day on the bench I learn something new about the judicial process and about being a professional Latina woman in a world that sometimes looks at me with suspicion. I am reminded each day that I render decisions that affect people concretely and that I owe them constant and complete vigilance in checking my assumptions, presumptions and perspectives and ensuring that to the extent that my limited abilities and capabilities permit me, that I reevaluate them and change as circumstances and cases before me requires. I can and do aspire to be greater than the sum total of my experiences.


So she's really saying the OPPOSITE of what every moron is accusing her of.

The right needs to stop putting up false flares and get substantive argument. As her record on liberty is not perfect.

jmlfod87
05-28-2009, 11:58 AM
Judges aren't suppose to rule by emotion, they are supposed to rule by law. The fact that she keeps mentioning her "experience" as giving her more credence is proof that she intends to legislate from the bench. Having a different set of life experiences doesn't make the law different, unless one wants to reconfigure the law to help those who have had similar life experiences.

Krugerrand
05-28-2009, 12:20 PM
I'm trying to figure out ... not where she stands on 1-10 scale of possible appointees ... but where she stands on a 1-10 scale of possible Obama appointees. He's not going to give us what we want.